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[Sexual Ealing]

A few pages back (I think) Chico said that Tottenham and Arsenal have built good stadiums. I can't comment on Spurs', the Emirates a terrible ground. Highbury was wonderful. The new one feels like sitting in a multiplex in Telford, but the burgers cost £17 (that price is true, as of two seasons ago, and I doubt they've reduced them).

I went to Spurs our first game back in the Premier League. It's an amazing stadium. The one that feels shit is West Ham. Good stadium, just doesn't feel like it was designed for football.

West Ham is the worst place I've ever watched football. And I've been to Molineux.

[dave.woodhall]

You could only build up the two ends by removing parking spaces and that's not going to be allowed.

[chrisw1]

You could only build up the two ends by removing parking spaces and that's not going to be allowed.

What if we could provide spaces elsewhere nearby?  Wouldn't that do it?

[dave.woodhall]

You could only build up the two ends by removing parking spaces and that's not going to be allowed.

What if we could provide spaces elsewhere nearby?  Wouldn't that do it?

First there isn't the space locally, and second the parking at the ground is mainly corporately and they wouldn't take too kindly to having to walk.

[sickbeggar]

You could only build up the two ends by removing parking spaces and that's not going to be allowed.

Looking at the north stand could you not wrap round the top of stands to join the others by modifying the roofs? bottom left bit at least?

[chrisw1]

So you don't think redeveloping the North Stand is viable?  If not, I don't really see how we can have a long term future at VP.   It would be a real choker if we have to move but surely we need a 50k plus stadium if we want to get where we all want us to be?

[artvandelay]

Can't we knock down the old Stumps (I think we're doing that anyway) and put car parking on that site?

[Drummond]

You could only build up the two ends by removing parking spaces and that's not going to be allowed.

What if we could provide spaces elsewhere nearby?  Wouldn't that do it?

First there isn't the space locally, and second the parking at the ground is mainly corporately and they wouldn't take too kindly to having to walk.

There's no reason why they couldn't have parking under the New North? Plus there could be scope to reduce the size of the academy building?

[AV82EC]

You could only build up the two ends by removing parking spaces and that's not going to be allowed.

What if we could provide spaces elsewhere nearby?  Wouldn't that do it?

First there isn't the space locally, and second the parking at the ground is mainly corporately and they wouldn't take too kindly to having to walk.

There's no reason why they couldn't have parking under the New North? Plus there could be scope to reduce the size of the academy building?

Isn’t all the academy stuff going over to the new Academy site on Brookvale Road?

[The Edge]

You could only build up the two ends by removing parking spaces and that's not going to be allowed.

What if we could provide spaces elsewhere nearby?  Wouldn't that do it?

First there isn't the space locally, and second the parking at the ground is mainly corporately and they wouldn't take too kindly to having to walk.

We were at Old Trafford in corporate recently and we were dropped off in a taxi as there wasn't any parking. Maybe there is for the high rollers but most people in corporate get there by their own steam. And surely there's plenty of room to increase the size of the North Stand and replace any lost parking spaces? Personally I think people will eventually have to get used to the idea of far less private parking on matchdays at the stadium. So were back to the thorny issue of public transport in the city.

[chrisw1]

I presume Dave is referring to it being a planning stumbling block as opposed to a 'nice to have'  Dave - is this something you're aware of as a fact, or just your judgment?

Based on the photo above, it looks to me that we're probably talking about c30-50 spaces if we're just looking at a larger stand, as opposed to hotels, museums etc.  That wouldn't seem insurmountable to me.

[dave.woodhall]

I presume Dave is referring to it being a planning stumbling block as opposed to a 'nice to have'  Dave - is this something you're aware of as a fact, or just your judgment?

Based on the photo above, it looks to me that we're probably talking about c30-50 spaces if we're just looking at a larger stand, as opposed to hotels, museums etc.  That wouldn't seem insurmountable to me.

I'm sure that some years ago we were told that we couldn't increase capacity until paking and (I'm less sure on this one) public transport were increased/improved. I also believe - again, not for certain - that a lot of the parking at the ground is for the boxes and sponsors, and there might also be access requrements for emergency services that has to be looked at. It may well be surmountable but it's a lot more complex than sticking another tier on one stand and going back a bit for another. Then there's all the ancient light regulations and that sort of stuff.   

[SoccerHQ]

You could only build up the two ends by removing parking spaces and that's not going to be allowed.

What if we could provide spaces elsewhere nearby?  Wouldn't that do it?

First there isn't the space locally, and second the parking at the ground is mainly corporately and they wouldn't take too kindly to having to walk.

Where do the corporates for Trinity park?

With all the London grounds there's very little visible on the surface parking. Of course public transport helps but for example all the team coaches go underground so I'd be surprised if we don't look at that with a new North Stand rather than have them parked outside so that should free up more space for corporate parking round there.

There's acres of space around the back of North stand so if we box clever we can hopefully create a wonderful new stand (and museum) and still have the parking needed.

[Risso]

There's acres of space around the back of North stand so if we box clever we can hopefully create a wonderful new stand (and museum) and still have the parking needed.

Mainly in the Holte End, but some in the North Stand.

[chrisw1]

I presume Dave is referring to it being a planning stumbling block as opposed to a 'nice to have'  Dave - is this something you're aware of as a fact, or just your judgment?

Based on the photo above, it looks to me that we're probably talking about c30-50 spaces if we're just looking at a larger stand, as opposed to hotels, museums etc.  That wouldn't seem insurmountable to me.

I'm sure that some years ago we were told that we couldn't increase capacity until paking and (I'm less sure on this one) public transport were increased/improved. I also believe - again, not for certain - that a lot of the parking at the ground is for the boxes and sponsors, and there might also be access requrements for emergency services that has to be looked at. It may well be surmountable but it's a lot more complex than sticking another tier on one stand and going back a bit for another. Then there's all the ancient light regulations and that sort of stuff.   

Yes makes sense.  "Just knock down a few houses, move the road, take a bit of the park...."   It's easy for fans at a keyboard, notsomuch in real life.  Will be facinating to see what options they come up with.