NSWE Investment

[Flin5tone]

As mentioned above there's plenty of room and parking if you're willing to walk 10/15 minutes . Plenty of land where the club could put on shuttle busses back to City Centre and encourage parking away from the stadium. The club should be doing all they can to resolve this problem. 

I'd encourage you all to email Andy Street and demand improvements to Public Transport offerings on a Match Day.

There's plenty of room at the back of the North Stand and Holte End to have multistorey Car Parks

I have been to a few Stadiums around Europe and the Transport to the stadium is first class at the elite German clubs and the likes of Ajax in the Netherlands. Frequent,fast and comfortable Trains/shuttles/Trams with little hassle or stress.

I feel as a Club we are really falling behind some other clubs in terms of facilities and experience.

[Villan82]

Villa Park is and always had been a great stadium. However, it has sort of got left behind since about 2005. We were all set for some redevelopment of the Witton end in 2010, in time for the Olympics if I am not mistaken? That never happened and 11 years later we are now crying out for it. It's not just a capacity issue, it's a facilities issue. The North Stand was great in its day but that day has passed. Also, we need a museum!

Facilities is definitely the biggest problem, North and Witton Lane/DE stands are awful on that front, the other 2 are probably about the bare minimum you'd be looking for. As ever though the problem isn't as simple as knocking things down and replacing them, there's just not enough space to build the sort of concourses you'd want, particularly on the DE side. I can see why it's taking a long time to sort because taking the time to get it right is better than rushing in and making a mess of things.

You would think there is space behind the North Stand for a serious upgrade on the facilities Villa Park has to offer? Restaurants, bars, the lot? I take your point on the Witton Lane side but with a new North Stand we could  maybe compensate on capacity on the Witton Lane side to improve its facilities? I wonder could we (again) move the road on that side to give us more space or built over it like we did with the Trinity?

[Marlon From Bearwood]

If you're prepared to walk for 10 minutes there's plenty of places to park where you can get away within about 5-10 mins of getting back to your car.  And that's without having to race from the ground or leave early.

I agree. I tend to deliberately park nearly a mile away from the ground now to avoid the post match traffic carnage. Even if there are spaces closer to the ground I’ll avoid them as I can’t be doing with barely moving for 30-60 minutes.

[dave.woodhall]

As mentioned above there's plenty of room and parking if you're willing to walk 10/15 minutes . Plenty of land where the club could put on shuttle busses back to City Centre and encourage parking away from the stadium. The club should be doing all they can to resolve this problem. 

I'd encourage you all to email Andy Street and demand improvements to Public Transport offerings on a Match Day.

There's plenty of room at the back of the North Stand and Holte End to have multistorey Car Parks

I have been to a few Stadiums around Europe and the Transport to the stadium is first class at the elite German clubs and the likes of Ajax in the Netherlands. Frequent,fast and comfortable Trains/shuttles/Trams with little hassle or stress.

I feel as a Club we are really falling behind some other clubs in terms of facilities and experience.

I hate to break it to you, Einstein, but you can't just set yourselves up as a bus company or build car parks wherever you fancy.

[algy]

More Anger and Outrage from Supporters

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-trains-gerrard-witton-22236342

Absolutely Shambolic

Fans should be able to Travel with relative ease and get Hot Food without so much chaos

What has the shambolic transport infrastructure got to do with NSWE?

If it makes you feel any better, I had a lovely meal in the Bartons before the match and missed all the traffic by detouring through Saltley and Alum Rock, a couple of miles extra but I sailed home.

A lot of our supporters are blaming the Villa for something beyond their control and offering up suggestions that are totally impractical.

It's not really under Travel WM's control either - Birmingham New Street is an incredibly busy station that's pretty much operating at capacity.  It's not like they have the option to throw on a load of extra trains - there'd be nowhere for them to go.

[dave.woodhall]

More Anger and Outrage from Supporters

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-trains-gerrard-witton-22236342

Absolutely Shambolic

Fans should be able to Travel with relative ease and get Hot Food without so much chaos

What has the shambolic transport infrastructure got to do with NSWE?

If it makes you feel any better, I had a lovely meal in the Bartons before the match and missed all the traffic by detouring through Saltley and Alum Rock, a couple of miles extra but I sailed home.

A lot of our supporters are blaming the Villa for something beyond their control and offering up suggestions that are totally impractical.

It's not really under Travel WM's control either - Birmingham New Street is an incredibly busy station that's pretty much operating at capacity.  It's not like they have the option to throw on a load of extra trains - there'd be nowhere for them to go.

There's rarely much delay getting the trains into New Street. It's the lack of trains in the first place that's the problem.

[AV82EC]

More Anger and Outrage from Supporters

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-trains-gerrard-witton-22236342

Absolutely Shambolic

Fans should be able to Travel with relative ease and get Hot Food without so much chaos

What has the shambolic transport infrastructure got to do with NSWE?

If it makes you feel any better, I had a lovely meal in the Bartons before the match and missed all the traffic by detouring through Saltley and Alum Rock, a couple of miles extra but I sailed home.

A lot of our supporters are blaming the Villa for something beyond their control and offering up suggestions that are totally impractical.

It's not really under Travel WM's control either - Birmingham New Street is an incredibly busy station that's pretty much operating at capacity.  It's not like they have the option to throw on a load of extra trains - there'd be nowhere for them to go.

There's rarely much delay getting the trains into New Street. It's the lack of trains in the first place that's the problem.

Quite, just 1 or 2 extra 6 carriage trains coming into Witton/Aston at about 5:15 would solve the problem for rail customers, though you have still got the platform capacity issue at New st to worry about. Maybe 1 extra train up to four oaks and one to Walsall’s park and ride would help for people heading north. I still don’t know why a fleet of buses maybe 5-10 in total can’t be used as well. As you say Dave a multi agency approach is reqd from The Mayor to BCC to WM trains and Nat Exp Busses. Villa may have to contribute some costs but it surely can’t be that hard to sort it out.

[cdward]

The police concentrate on getting the away supporters coaches out and on to Spaghetti Junction as quickly and efficiently as possible, then that's them done with traffic control.
I can't see anything changing, it's up to the supporters to make their way to and from the ground.

[Chris Smith]

Back in the70s and 80s WMPTE ran special buses from opposite The Cabin in town to outside the school on Manor Road and then back again afterwards. It was a single drop off and they probably had about 6 buses running for a couple of hours before kick off and then an hour afterwards. They were always overcrowded but they did the job. They could surely utilise bus lanes on the main roads to implement something similar.

[Drummond]

As mentioned above there's plenty of room and parking if you're willing to walk 10/15 minutes . Plenty of land where the club could put on shuttle busses back to City Centre and encourage parking away from the stadium. The club should be doing all they can to resolve this problem. 

I'd encourage you all to email Andy Street and demand improvements to Public Transport offerings on a Match Day.

There's plenty of room at the back of the North Stand and Holte End to have multistorey Car Parks

I have been to a few Stadiums around Europe and the Transport to the stadium is first class at the elite German clubs and the likes of Ajax in the Netherlands. Frequent,fast and comfortable Trains/shuttles/Trams with little hassle or stress.

I feel as a Club we are really falling behind some other clubs in terms of facilities and experience.

Good idea, what response did you get?

[Ads]

As mentioned above there's plenty of room and parking if you're willing to walk 10/15 minutes . Plenty of land where the club could put on shuttle busses back to City Centre and encourage parking away from the stadium. The club should be doing all they can to resolve this problem. 

I'd encourage you all to email Andy Street and demand improvements to Public Transport offerings on a Match Day.

There's plenty of room at the back of the North Stand and Holte End to have multistorey Car Parks

I have been to a few Stadiums around Europe and the Transport to the stadium is first class at the elite German clubs and the likes of Ajax in the Netherlands. Frequent,fast and comfortable Trains/shuttles/Trams with little hassle or stress.

I feel as a Club we are really falling behind some other clubs in terms of facilities and experience.

Good idea, what response did you get?

That the other two stands would be open soo. KRO SOTV

[john e]

Massive queue at Aston station after the last game
The worst thing being they don’t let many people on that platform so the last few times it’s left half empty

I mean on my carriage it was 25% full when it left Aston With a queue of hundreds still down below
That’s ridiculous and needs to better organisation

[Clampy]

A multi story car park behind the Holte End? Yeah, ok.

[LeeB]

A multi story car park behind the Holte End? Yeah, ok.

Christ, imagine trying to get out of that!

[Brazilian Villain]

A multi story car park behind the Holte End? Yeah, ok.

Wouldn't work, we'd probably have to go the Monaco route  i.e. build the multi-storey car park and stick the ground on top.