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[cdbearsfan]

They have the upside down pourer things this year so hoping they get quicker at serving beer. I doubt the phone signal will be any better. It's only every any good during low attendances and we don't have those any more.

[brentastonb6]

Villa have something - a visual style to the ground (old Trinity Road/Holte End) that few if any clubs can match. Follow that template and, wherever the ground is, it'll be Villa Park and it'll be a success. Live up to playing at 'the stately home of football' and we good rake in some serious money.

I'd imagine there'll be contingency plans on top of contingency plans, and as has been said before regardless of what happens we ain't building a new stand/ground overnight. Probably makes sense to start looking at options sooner rather than later.

Personally I'm a leaver if it's to a city centre site. I think we could genuinely mop up of we were walking distance from HS2/New Street and built an impressive enough ground. Thinking a horseshoe of red brick stands in a kind of half octogen* and a massive free standing "New Holte End" stand with rail seating akin to the Sudtribune in Dortmund. But with a different, modern design in contrast to the other stands. With two proper floodlights either side, one "A" and one "V".

* You know how the old Trinity Road stand was flat and then angled in at the ends?  Sort of carrying on that so each stand links up at 45 degrees the other.

Sounds Good 👍 can someone with CAD kit knock up a mock up with Selfridges/ Bullring/ St Martins etc in the backdrop ?

[brentastonb6]

We build a bigger, modern, stadium and the support will follow.

There's literally zero evidence to support this.

Back in the 1920s Villa Park had a capacity of 80,000 but since then we've averaged more than 40,000 six times.  Five of those being before 1950!

When we were pushing for a Champions League place under MON our attendances fell!

I just don't buy this idea that if we suddenly spunk hundreds of millions of pounds on a new stadium or four new stands we'd suddenly be pulling in 80,000 every week and the investment would pay for itself.

I’d have to tick the strongly disagree box with you on that.Derby, Leicester and Southampton all improved existing stadiums and massive increases in attendance followed without the clubs winning any trophies at the time.

[purpletrousers]

I’m liking the 21st Cebtury Victorian superstructure idea, basically build a castle, A & V floodlights on each corner turret, wouldn’t it be refreshing to build something that is unique, that’s closer to Aston Hall / Leitch than identikit stadiums. Would be lovely to really expand transform B6 if we can.

[brentastonb6]

Wolves have just finished in th etop half on the top-flight for the first time in nearly 40 years, they need 4-5 years to show it's not a flash in the pan. We were regularly top half of the league for 20 years and are coming back from a 7-8 year 'blip' of relegation battles and lower league football. The circumstances are very different and we're not taling about qualifying for the champions league this year, just pointing out that we should be considering our options for a new ground given 1 stand is woefully out of date, another is barely fit for purpose and the final 2, whilst functional, have a number of problems that would be hard to resolve.

7-8 years is more than a 'blip'! We've also not won a trophy for 23 years and never played in the Champions League.

I'm not sure why, just because we've finally been promoted back to where we all agree we belong, we feel that Villa Park is suddenly a shithole that needs erasing from memory so we can go somewhere flash.

I'm as positive about our potential future as the next person, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. If it was your money, would you speculate in this way? Just because we have wealthy owners doesn't mean we should get all entitled and demand they spend more.

If it was my money, I’d be getting on with it, because I’d be buying some of the world’s best players and I know for a fact that if we had a team like Man City or Liverpool we’d need a bigger ground than either of them has got at the minute. Only the owners (and people close to them) know the extent of their ambition, but if it’s to constantly compete for trophies and play in the Champions League they should build the new ground or massively increase capacity and improve facilities at Villa Park.

Agree with you Percy on that 100%. I often say to Liverpool fans that if we’d won the trophies  they have the last 50 years our ground would be double the size of theirs.

[Brassneck]

We build a bigger, modern, stadium and the support will follow.

There's literally zero evidence to support this.

Back in the 1920s Villa Park had a capacity of 80,000 but since then we've averaged more than 40,000 six times.  Five of those being before 1950!

When we were pushing for a Champions League place under MON our attendances fell!

I just don't buy this idea that if we suddenly spunk hundreds of millions of pounds on a new stadium or four new stands we'd suddenly be pulling in 80,000 every week and the investment would pay for itself.

I’d have to tick the strongly disagree box with you on that.Derby, Leicester and Southampton all improved existing stadiums and massive increases in attendance followed without the clubs winning any trophies at the time.

I'd also strongly disagree - The evidence is in almost every single team that has moved.

The issue with Villa is that it's not a priority.  Most teams that move do so from terribly outdated stadiums (see Everton) or because their stadiums are way too small (see Spurs)

Villa Park is iconic and more than acceptable facility wise.  There is scope for another 10,000 by rebuilding the North Stand or alternatively up to 5,000 by filling in the corners.

Moving forward, I wonder whether there is any way of making the DE bigger?

At this moment in time, I see no argument for us to move.

[robbo1874]

I favour either :

a) rebuilding Villa Park as a proper redbrick fortress. Think the style of the Aston Webb building at Birmingham University but three times bigger. Massive brick covered superstructure like a huge satanic mill landed in Aston from planet 1895 when we were champions three years running. The whole thing detailed with mosaics, dark stained glass windows and lit by gas lamps. Inside 4 stands seperated by the corner towers but the Holte rebuilt as the largest single tier stand in the world. Basically a monumental victorian-styled ornate FOOTBALL GROUND.

OR

b) A giant UFO landed right on top of New Street station , a glowing claret orb lighting up the city centre, the most modern technically advanced stadium in the world, right slap bang in the centre. All transport issues resolved in a single stroke and stands out as unique as our club is. Ive always felt that the most appropriate sponsors for us would be Aston Martin as they have the same class as us, but the stadium MUST always be Villa Park.

could we have option b but with huge A  V floodlights at each end of the  orb?

[The Edge]

We build a bigger, modern, stadium and the support will follow.

There's literally zero evidence to support this.

Back in the 1920s Villa Park had a capacity of 80,000 but since then we've averaged more than 40,000 six times.  Five of those being before 1950!

When we were pushing for a Champions League place under MON our attendances fell!

I just don't buy this idea that if we suddenly spunk hundreds of millions of pounds on a new stadium or four new stands we'd suddenly be pulling in 80,000 every week and the investment would pay for itself.

I’d have to tick the strongly disagree box with you on that.Derby, Leicester and Southampton all improved existing stadiums and massive increases in attendance followed without the clubs winning any trophies at the time.

I'd also strongly disagree - The evidence is in almost every single team that has moved.

The issue with Villa is that it's not a priority.  Most teams that move do so from terribly outdated stadiums (see Everton) or because their stadiums are way too small (see Spurs)

Villa Park is iconic and more than acceptable facility wise.  There is scope for another 10,000 by rebuilding the North Stand or alternatively up to 5,000 by filling in the corners.

Moving forward, I wonder whether there is any way of making the DE bigger?

At this moment in time, I see no argument for us to move.

If all goes to plan on the pitch the club will have no choice. The DE will have to go as will the North Stand. My choice is for a bigger and better version of both.

[Nev]

I know Liverpool had to jump through a fair few hoops to redevelop the main stand, including purchasing housing that sat right up to the rear of the structure. It was controversial as well from what I remember.
Their next step is to extend the Anfield Road and this has the road directly behind so it may well involve an up and over with the road running underneath.

A combination of these would be needed for us to re-do the Witton Lane, the road was moved and a row of houses demolished when Ellis did his bit, a larger version will be needed now. The North Stand has room for expansion and I believe the Trinity and Holte are big enough.

[Dazvillain]

Dear owners, knowing you must both be short of a few quid now, would you like us H&V’s to have a whip round........

Or shall we wait until you’ve announced Wilson and Maupay first ?

[Dazvillain]

Additional signage and further money added to north stand near visitors ticket office





Any updates on our demolition of buildings planned from July 22nd onwards ?

[PeterWithesShin]

Trialing safe standing

[Smirker]

Said it before but I am loving the investment thank you Wes thank you Nassef.

[Brazilian Villain]

This could be the best value signing of what’s been a great summer in a key position. Seems like a top guy and pro a la Mings. (See Henry Winter’s tweet) Reading Burnley fans fora they are genuinely gutted he’s leaving but they’ve been very classy in wishing him well.

[Brazilian Villain]

Fucing H&V login issues on my phone (wrong thread) but you get my drift!