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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1200 on: July 30, 2019, 08:18:54 AM »
If we’re going to compete at the very top we need to grow revenue multiple times what it is now or we’ll always fall foul of FFP. I suspect that NS and WE intend to compete at the very top. Big changes ahead.

Agreed. Doesn't mean investing billions on a new stadium yet though.

We'd pour scorn if Leeds had been promoted and 5heur fans said they wanted a brand new stadium etc.

We need to wait first, the team has to be priority. Spurs in my view have gone about it the right way. They built the team, had success and now have a stadium. We've just been promoted after years in the second division.

The potential fan base for us is huge, we're in the right place to attract plastic fans from everywhere, as well as our existing fanbase being pretty damn big too.

We just need to make sure we can get a decent foothold this season. Waiting a year before advancing plans makes the most sense.

I did ask before how many times we'd sold out and the answer, as I think we all know, is not many. Let's not build it until we know they'll come to see what's happening inside.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1201 on: July 30, 2019, 08:22:45 AM »
I dont think anybody is saying they want anything for next season and if it was a new stadium, you'd be talking 10 years anyway.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1202 on: July 30, 2019, 08:26:22 AM »
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Im not an advocate of leaving B6 for me that would be a very very sad day if we ever did. The owners have said very little on this subject so all of the comments on here are pure speculation. So my purely hypothetical take on moving Villa Park is this. There was an announcement recently that the 3 massive gasometers in Nechells are being demolished. Thats a huge plot of land and less than a mile from VP. Then theres the rumour that Boris is looking to scrap HS2 (despite all his bluster the other day). If so theres a massive piece of prime land up for grabs at Millenium point. Theres plans already in for the tram to be extended into the area. I said previously that if we did move then the NEC would appear logical from a land and connectivity perspective. All just speculation of course as theres a small matter of re-establishing the Villa as one of the Premier leagues big players.
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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1203 on: July 30, 2019, 08:29:41 AM »
Im not an advocate of leaving B6 for me that would be a very very sad day if we ever did. The owners have said very little on this subject so all of the comments on here are pure speculation. So my purely hypothetical take on moving Villa Park is this. There was an announcement recently that the 3 massive gasometers in Nechells are being demolished (the ones painted claret and blue) Thats a huge plot of land and less than a mile from VP. Then theres the rumour that Boris is looking to scrap HS2 (despite all his bluster the other day). If so theres a massive piece of prime land up for grabs. Theres plans already in for the tram to be extended into the area. I said previously that if we did move then the NEC would appear logical from a land and connectivity perspective. All just speculation of course as theres a small matter of re-establishing the Villa as one of the Premier leagues big players.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1204 on: July 30, 2019, 08:31:38 AM »
Im not an advocate of leaving B6 for me that would be a very very sad day if we ever did. The owners have said very little on this subject so all of the comments on here are pure speculation. So my purely hypothetical take on moving Villa Park is this. There was an announcement recently that the 3 massive gasometers in Nechells are being demolished (the ones painted claret and blue) Thats a huge plot of land and less than a mile from VP. Then theres the rumour that Boris is looking to scrap HS2 (despite all his bluster the other day). If so theres a massive piece of prime land up for grabs. Theres plans already in for the tram to be extended into the area. I said previously that if we did move then the NEC would appear logical from a land and connectivity perspective. All just speculation of course as theres a small matter of re-establishing the Villa as one of the Premier leagues big players.
Sorry guys dunno what happened here. I was trying to modify my post.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1205 on: July 30, 2019, 08:43:23 AM »
I dont think anybody is saying they want anything for next season and if it was a new stadium, you'd be talking 10 years anyway.

Given the poll's first option is wait 5 years, the rest are all about getting on with it, and the way people are talking, I presumed people wanted to get on with it. Not a 10 year wait.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1206 on: July 30, 2019, 08:46:48 AM »
Given that land near the city centre will be prohibitively expensive, is already likely to be earmarked by the council and brings with it issues around transport, parking and policing then I think it is a non-starter.

If we were looking for an alternative further out then somewhere close to a main motorway junction and served by two train stations and with good bus links and space to expand is hard to better.

Nothing I have read above persuades me that we should move.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1207 on: July 30, 2019, 08:47:51 AM »
If we’re going to compete at the very top we need to grow revenue multiple times what it is now or we’ll always fall foul of FFP. I suspect that NS and WE intend to compete at the very top. Big changes ahead.

Agreed. Doesn't mean investing billions on a new stadium yet though.

We'd pour scorn if Leeds had been promoted and 5heur fans said they wanted a brand new stadium etc.

Maybe. And then we'd be jealous if they were filling it every week while we were playing at a smaller ground.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1208 on: July 30, 2019, 08:54:07 AM »
Given that land near the city centre will be prohibitively expensive, is already likely to be earmarked by the council and brings with it issues around transport, parking and policing then I think it is a non-starter.

If we were looking for an alternative further out then somewhere close to a main motorway junction and served by two train stations and with good bus links and space to expand is hard to better.

Nothing I have read above persuades me that we should move.

I’d disagree with your assertion re:Transport Chris, you’d be closer to the Transport hub of the City centre which means far more people would use public transport, bus and train, than drive.

That said despite the attractions and maybe an initial attraction to a close to the City Centre site, I’d prefer to stay and redevelop our existing site. However huge development of public transport options will be needed to get planning I suspect.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1209 on: July 30, 2019, 09:03:25 AM »
The process will take +5yrs to get land deals, planning etc done.

Any club with big ambition would already be getting on with it to see if they can make the numbers to work, and whether it’s in the best interests of the club.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1210 on: July 30, 2019, 10:33:13 AM »
With the anti-car nature of the City you'd think they'd welcome this idea. They are closing car parks around Symphony Hall and the Rep so this fits the agenda.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1211 on: July 30, 2019, 10:36:52 AM »
Given that land near the city centre will be prohibitively expensive, is already likely to be earmarked by the council and brings with it issues around transport, parking and policing then I think it is a non-starter.

If we were looking for an alternative further out then somewhere close to a main motorway junction and served by two train stations and with good bus links and space to expand is hard to better.

Nothing I have read above persuades me that we should move.

I’d disagree with your assertion re:Transport Chris, you’d be closer to the Transport hub of the City centre which means far more people would use public transport, bus and train, than drive.

That said despite the attractions and maybe an initial attraction to a close to the City Centre site, I’d prefer to stay and redevelop our existing site. However huge development of public transport options will be needed to get planning I suspect.

Perhaps but I’m not convinced that people who don’t already would start to use public transport, a lot of people are just wedded to their cars. You can look at Small Heath to evidence that.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1212 on: July 30, 2019, 10:38:33 AM »
I dont think anybody is saying they want anything for next season and if it was a new stadium, you'd be talking 10 years anyway.

Given the poll's first option is wait 5 years, the rest are all about getting on with it, and the way people are talking, I presumed people wanted to get on with it. Not a 10 year wait.

But what does the wait 5 years option really mean? Wait that long and then start looking at the options or get all th eplans drawn up, find plots, etc and then trigger things in 5 years if everything is still favouring it?

Personally I think the latter is the right approach (but I'd go with 3-4 years not 5 so we can be on course to kick on in the post commonwealth games 'bubble') and the more I think of it the less reasons I can find to stay at the current site if we're planning a near total rebuild.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1213 on: July 30, 2019, 10:42:08 AM »
Nobody's mentioned the pollution reduction/congestion charge measures the council are committed to introducing in relation to the city centre.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1214 on: July 30, 2019, 10:45:07 AM »
It is looking a bit Wolves on here now.

 


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