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Offline old man villa fan

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2415 on: August 06, 2021, 12:18:51 PM »
The key to trying to keep hold of your best players is to tempt them into signing new contracts with high value release clauses in them.  It doesn't always mean you keep hold of them but it gets you a high transfer fee if they do go.  You will not be able to do it when you first sign a player but the first chance to get him to extend his contract is when you act.  This probably means getting them to sign up for 4 or 5 years.  This is where it pays to sign players with relatively low salaries to start with.  The Club will nearly always be in the stronger position doing this and it means they can always accept less if it suits.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2416 on: August 06, 2021, 12:19:13 PM »
It’s clear that these guys (by that I mean the owners & management team) knew Jacks intentions some time ago, as we’re seeing now with the speed we are recruiting. First class ownership in action.
Well there has been alleged ITK that they were v well prepared for staying or going, also an allegation that Jack said for two months he was signing then then did a 180 degree turn.

So I’d suggest it smells of exquisitely good contingency planning rather than knowing all along. Even the kit launch, I think they are honourable enough not to fleece kids shirts with JG on whilst knowing he was going, I think at that point they were believe the earlier promise or at least hopeful.

Again the alleged ITK that he was narked by being used in the kit launch as he thought it was all up in the air still. (Maybe it was even a game plan to encourage his loyalty.

Could all be rubbish but makes sense.
From impressions I've had, I think we had our sights on Buendia and Bailey whilst NSWE were still operating under the assumption rat was staying. Ings, I'm not sure. Given the speed it happened at, I think it's more likely that we began recruitment before the Grealish situation had played out.

I dunno, my gut instinct is to say that maybe Cantwell, if he's incoming, is the only player we might not have gone for if Grealish had stayed. I also - gut feeling again - think we'll largely keep our powder dry this summer. Next summer we should be in the same FFP situation, but without the Grealish transfer so fresh in the mind, and the price inflation which comes with that.

FFP wise it'll be ridiculous. We'll be £200m to the good, but can spread transfer fees over the length of players contracts (4/5 years) - so presumably could spend well over that figure ...

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2417 on: August 06, 2021, 12:39:33 PM »
It’s clear that these guys (by that I mean the owners & management team) knew Jacks intentions some time ago, as we’re seeing now with the speed we are recruiting. First class ownership in action.
Well there has been alleged ITK that they were v well prepared for staying or going, also an allegation that Jack said for two months he was signing then then did a 180 degree turn.

So I’d suggest it smells of exquisitely good contingency planning rather than knowing all along. Even the kit launch, I think they are honourable enough not to fleece kids shirts with JG on whilst knowing he was going, I think at that point they were believe the earlier promise or at least hopeful.

Again the alleged ITK that he was narked by being used in the kit launch as he thought it was all up in the air still. (Maybe it was even a game plan to encourage his loyalty.

Could all be rubbish but makes sense.
From impressions I've had, I think we had our sights on Buendia and Bailey whilst NSWE were still operating under the assumption rat was staying. Ings, I'm not sure. Given the speed it happened at, I think it's more likely that we began recruitment before the Grealish situation had played out.

I dunno, my gut instinct is to say that maybe Cantwell, if he's incoming, is the only player we might not have gone for if Grealish had stayed. I also - gut feeling again - think we'll largely keep our powder dry this summer. Next summer we should be in the same FFP situation, but without the Grealish transfer so fresh in the mind, and the price inflation which comes with that.

FFP wise it'll be ridiculous. We'll be £200m to the good, but can spread transfer fees over the length of players contracts (4/5 years) - so presumably could spend well over that figure ...

I don't see why we should pay any attention to FFP. It either applies to everybody or to nobody. If anyone has a problem, tell them we'll comply when they find a way of making sure Man City do.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2418 on: August 09, 2021, 08:00:20 PM »
A trailer embedded in this tweet is a good reminder of what they saved us from. If anyone knows how to embed it here, have at it! I'm about to watch the whole thing.

https://twitter.com/AJIunit/status/1424793093883170819

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2419 on: August 09, 2021, 08:04:02 PM »
I'd like to get to a position where our captain doesn't move to man city.

Barry
(Milner?)
Delph
Grealish

Or... give Wesley the captaincy?

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2420 on: August 09, 2021, 10:01:52 PM »
A trailer embedded in this tweet is a good reminder of what they saved us from. If anyone knows how to embed it here, have at it! I'm about to watch the whole thing.

https://twitter.com/AJIunit/status/1424793093883170819


Holy shit!

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2421 on: August 09, 2021, 10:22:39 PM »
That could be explosive

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2422 on: August 09, 2021, 10:25:29 PM »
Even how they slowly, determinedly and silently sidelined the fake doctor was classy. We are very lucky to have them.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2423 on: August 09, 2021, 10:42:51 PM »
Even how they slowly, determinedly and silently sidelined the fake doctor was classy. We are very lucky to have them.

They couldn't be any further apart on the good/bad owner spectrum.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2424 on: August 10, 2021, 08:48:24 AM »
Slight tangent but Kieran Maguire has been posting some interesting premier league finance figures today.

Here is one where NSWE should be seriously looking to improve us.


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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2425 on: August 10, 2021, 08:52:51 AM »
Jesus! Brighton?  :o

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2426 on: August 10, 2021, 08:57:32 AM »
Slight tangent but Kieran Maguire has been posting some interesting premier league finance figures today.

Here is one where NSWE should be seriously looking to improve us.



I've been banging on about this since the Ellis days. Every single previous ownership group has failed at this. It is difficult not qualifying for Europe to drive revenues in this area but this is lamentable.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2427 on: August 10, 2021, 09:01:21 AM »
Slight tangent but Kieran Maguire has been posting some interesting premier league finance figures today.

Here is one where NSWE should be seriously looking to improve us.



I've been banging on about this since the Ellis days. Every single previous ownership group has failed at this. It is difficult not qualifying for Europe to drive revenues in this area but this is lamentable.

If  accurate that is staggering .

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2428 on: August 10, 2021, 09:08:35 AM »
It's for 2019/20. We'd been in the Championship for three years.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2429 on: August 10, 2021, 09:12:33 AM »
Laughable figures when you factor the visible lack of actual fanbase for Man City.

Dodgy with capit-Al D

 


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