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Offline olaftab

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #450 on: August 16, 2017, 03:17:38 PM »
For those that don't think Aston Villa is capable of attracting a manager in employment, and for those of us that do but are interested in who is out of work, then here is a list of currently unemployed managers:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik
I see Quim is on the list, he would fit in perfectly with Gabby, Richards and co.
On a more sensible note there are soe pretty good coaches on the list.
I am shocked that Tony Adams is unemployed after all he is a born winner.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #451 on: August 16, 2017, 03:19:39 PM »
1. Break the bank  and go after someone like Tuchel. Risk the wrath of FFP violation.
What is the realistic risk of an FFP violation and would it be worth taking to bring in the right manager and/or players?

If it's a fine then the club should take the hit if we would have a better chance of getting promotion, however a points deduction would need to be more carefully assessed. As long as they don't enforce an overly harsh point deduction or refuse promotion, then it may well be a risk worth taking?

It's pretty much anything. Rules changed recently so before it was just a fine, now it can be points deductions, denied promotion etc.


http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/financial-fair-play-explained.php

Relevant bits regarding punishments

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Crucially, this harmonisation of the rules comes with the blessing of the Premier League - so we shouldn’t see any repeat of the stand-offs that arose (and are still ongoing) with QPR and Leicester. Previously, the Premier League bosses refused to help the Football League collect the ‘Fair Play Tax’ fines for clubs that overspent but won promotion – this lack of support significantly undermined the Football League and severely impacted on the effectiveness of the Football League punishments.

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Any punishment for breach of the rules will be determined by an independent panel (the ‘Fair Play Panel’).

But what are the potential punishments? Previously the Football League has only been able to either; fine promoted clubs (a fine the Premier League didn’t help them collect), or impose a transfer embargo for historic overspending (which always like a stable-door/horse scenario). With this change, a wide range of punishments are now available. Nothing is off the table; the Football League are now able to impose a points deduction during the current season, or demote a club from an automatic promotion position into the play-offs (or out of the play-offs altogether). Transfer embargoes are also available (with the earliest one potentially applying during the Summer 2017 Transfer window.

« Last Edit: August 16, 2017, 03:22:11 PM by PeterWithesShin »

Offline KRS

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #452 on: August 16, 2017, 03:23:10 PM »
So basically the FA would make any punishment they see fit as they go along? Probably not worth risking then giving they have a tendency to be harsh on us.

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #453 on: August 16, 2017, 03:25:48 PM »
Tell them to fuck off. If they deduct points, sue the arse off them. No court in the land is going to justify a body that, effectively, bans a company from investing money.

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #454 on: August 16, 2017, 03:27:36 PM »
I worry that we don't exactly prove wrong the people saying that we as a club are deluded and overdemanding by talking about getting Thomas Tuchel. I mean, come on guys.

As I said - a pipe dream.  There was probably a time not too long ago when we could have got someone of that calibre, but wasn't to be. 

Offline cdbearsfan

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #455 on: August 16, 2017, 03:29:34 PM »
It's still pretty galling that when we had just finished ninth in the richest league in the World, and could probably have selected from a list of world-class potential appointees had we shown sufficient ambition, that we ended up with McLeish.

Offline AV5nobs

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #456 on: August 16, 2017, 03:35:55 PM »
It was very simple.

Cut the wage bill, maintain prem status, limited funds.

Lerner had bitten off more than he could chew and TSM was the puppet of a terrible but fiscally driven ownership that knew they were not in this now for the long run.


Offline Tuscans

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #457 on: August 16, 2017, 03:37:28 PM »
Who is Tuchel? I ask both to demonstrate just how little notice I take of football outside B6, and to see if you lot are getting your heads turned by a bit of foreign totty. I remember a lot of people making out Garde was the next Herbert Chapman* when his record suggested no such thing.

(*Yes, that is an exaggeration for my own amusement.)
The last Borussia Dortmund manager.

Offline Simon Page

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #458 on: August 16, 2017, 04:01:00 PM »
Thank you. Assume he was in charge when the bus was attacked? Was he any good?

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #459 on: August 16, 2017, 04:02:04 PM »
I think that we now can acknowledge that "knowing the championship" is just as a good qualification as not knowing the championship - they all give us f... all

What we need is someone who can make some players play football - not some trickery of the championship. The level of football is much closer to the EPL than it is different. The biggest difference is the frequency of the games.

Get a manager that can get them to play FOOTBALL - passing, attacking, defending. Hoffenheim have a 30 year old that ended in 4th in Germany and play great football. He could speak chinese, portuguese or whatever, as long as he also speaks English.

Offline Hoppo

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #460 on: August 16, 2017, 04:03:34 PM »
So. If we overspend they could ban us from going up?.. Well, sack him, replace with an upto date manager, pay compensation to Calderwood and co, invest properly and try and get promotion because the way were doing it now is going so well.
Take our chances in court!

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #461 on: August 16, 2017, 04:05:00 PM »
Thank you. Assume he was in charge when the bus was attacked? Was he any good?
Yeah he's a very attack minded coach. Tipped to be the next Arsenal manager at one point before Wenger signed his extension. But no hope of coming here, to big a name now.

Offline TheTimVilla

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #462 on: August 16, 2017, 04:05:57 PM »
Why not get Sir Brian in on an interim basis until the new person can start (eg if with another club at the moment)? There's no reason for Bruce to stay at the club.

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #463 on: August 16, 2017, 04:05:58 PM »
If we appoint a deceased manager it'll be the final, conclusive, evidence that the Board have lost the plot.

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #464 on: August 16, 2017, 04:06:09 PM »
I don't think the right manager would need to buy many more players, indeed maybe any. I think this squad is good enough for a manager with the right ethos to get something out of.

 


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