Manager suggestions - Now with added poll

[ASHTONVILLA]

For those that don't think Aston Villa is capable of attracting a manager in employment, and for those of us that do but are interested in who is out of work, then here is a list of currently unemployed managers:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik

I see Quim is on the list, he would fit in perfectly with Gabby, Richards and co.

On a more sensible note there are soe pretty good coaches on the list.

[Monty]

The only thing that puts me off Smith is that we could be doing the managerial version of our former transfer process... ie going for someone who always does well against us. Their record against the other 22 teams wasn't too spectacular.

Still, if he could get our midfield playing anything like their midfield played against us, and get Hogan scoring like he did for them, I'd be happy.

I sure would, but I wonder if you're right. Not only because of the 'good against us' fallacy, but also the lethal 'he's Villa isn't he' fallacy. As you say, lots of teams fucked us up last season.

[Dave]

Have a word with yourselves.

Still think Dean Smith is the one to go for.

So a complete 180 on how Bruce is the one, and any talk of him leaving is silly?

Didn't take long.

[tomd2103]

For those that don't think Aston Villa is capable of attracting a manager in employment, and for those of us that do but are interested in who is out of work, then here is a list of currently unemployed managers:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik

I see Quim is on the list, he would fit in perfectly with Gabby, Richards and co.

On a more sensible note there are soe pretty good coaches on the list.

Tuchel is on that list as well.  Pipe dream I'm guessing.

[ASHTONVILLA]

For those that don't think Aston Villa is capable of attracting a manager in employment, and for those of us that do but are interested in who is out of work, then here is a list of currently unemployed managers:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik

I see Quim is on the list, he would fit in perfectly with Gabby, Richards and co.

On a more sensible note there are soe pretty good coaches on the list.

Tuchel is on that list as well.  Pipe dream I'm guessing.

Sousa isn't bad either.

[olaftab]

I think there are two options. (if and when Steve decided to leave)
1. Break the bank  and go after someone like Tuchel. Risk the wrath of FFP violation.
2. Stop all this nonsense about getting  back in to PL PDQ and give the job to some hard headed young coach to rebuild the Villa from roots upwards however long it takes to get back up to top level.

There is no point in F ing about with Allardyce, Pardew etc etc and keep repeating the recent mistakes.

[tomd2103]

I think there are two options. (if and when Steve decided to leave)
1. Break the bank  and go after someone like Tuchel. Risk the wrath of FFP violation.
2. Stop all this nonsense about getting  back in to PL PDQ and give the job to some hard headed young coach to rebuild the Villa from roots upwards however long it takes to get back up to top level.

There is no point in F ing about with Allardyce, Pardew etc etc and keep repeating the recent mistakes.

I think we've probably got one more shot at option number 1. before we all have to accept option number 2. if it goes wrong.

[Axl Rose]

I think there are two options. (if and when Steve decided to leave)
1. Break the bank  and go after someone like Tuchel. Risk the wrath of FFP violation.
2. Stop all this nonsense about getting  back in to PL PDQ and give the job to some hard headed young coach to rebuild the Villa from roots upwards however long it takes to get back up to top level.

There is no point in F ing about with Allardyce, Pardew etc etc and keep repeating the recent mistakes.

Excellent post. Your ideas have my backing, Aftab

[Monty]

I worry that we don't exactly prove wrong the people saying that we as a club are deluded and overdemanding by talking about getting Thomas Tuchel. I mean, come on guys.

[Holte L2]

I worry that we don't exactly prove wrong the people saying that we as a club are deluded and overdemanding by talking about getting Thomas Tuchel. I mean, come on guys.

Benitez ended up at Newcasltle, De Boer at Palace (albeit with PL money) I don't see what is deluded about it.

[PeterWithesShin]

I won't say deluded but we're 23rd in Division 2 and screwed by FFP. Benitez, de Boer etc were joining clubs in very different situations.

[Simon Page]

Who is Tuchel? I ask both to demonstrate just how little notice I take of football outside B6, and to see if you lot are getting your heads turned by a bit of foreign totty. I remember a lot of people making out Garde was the next Herbert Chapman* when his record suggested no such thing.

(*Yes, that is an exaggeration for my own amusement.)

[Monty]

Were we in the PL, maybe, just maybe. But Benitez did not join Newcastle in the Championship (and in any case is rather odd and has all sorts of noble ideas about connecting with the fans etc). De Boer similarly wouldn't be near Palace were they in this division. I'm normally the one saying 'aim higher' when people suggest Allardyce or Colin Wanker, but there are limits. Tuchel might end up at Barca or Juve. He's not in our league.

Just to say - I don't think the fans are 'deluded', just that people who say we are get ammo from something like this.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I worry that we don't exactly prove wrong the people saying that we as a club are deluded and overdemanding by talking about getting Thomas Tuchel. I mean, come on guys.

Benitez ended up at Newcasltle, De Boer at Palace (albeit with PL money) I don't see what is deluded about it.

As I've mentioned before, he's recently turned down Southampton and is looking for a European club in the CL.

[KRS]

1. Break the bank  and go after someone like Tuchel. Risk the wrath of FFP violation.

What is the realistic risk of an FFP violation and would it be worth taking to bring in the right manager and/or players?

If it's a fine then the club should take the hit if we would have a better chance of getting promotion, however a points deduction would need to be more carefully assessed. As long as they don't enforce an overly harsh point deduction or refuse promotion, then it may well be a risk worth taking?