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Offline PaulWinch again

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Re: Post season thread
« Reply #180 on: May 14, 2017, 10:12:11 PM »
Fair enough is there any official confirmation of those sanctions?

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Re: Post season thread
« Reply #181 on: May 14, 2017, 10:20:09 PM »
Fair enough is there any official confirmation of those sanctions?

http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/financial-fair-play-explained.php

Relevant bits regarding punishments

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Crucially, this harmonisation of the rules comes with the blessing of the Premier League - so we shouldn’t see any repeat of the stand-offs that arose (and are still ongoing) with QPR and Leicester. Previously, the Premier League bosses refused to help the Football League collect the ‘Fair Play Tax’ fines for clubs that overspent but won promotion – this lack of support significantly undermined the Football League and severely impacted on the effectiveness of the Football League punishments.

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Any punishment for breach of the rules will be determined by an independent panel (the ‘Fair Play Panel’).

But what are the potential punishments? Previously the Football League has only been able to either; fine promoted clubs (a fine the Premier League didn’t help them collect), or impose a transfer embargo for historic overspending (which always like a stable-door/horse scenario). With this change, a wide range of punishments are now available. Nothing is off the table; the Football League are now able to impose a points deduction during the current season, or demote a club from an automatic promotion position into the play-offs (or out of the play-offs altogether). Transfer embargoes are also available (with the earliest one potentially applying during the Summer 2017 Transfer window.

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Post season thread
« Reply #182 on: May 14, 2017, 10:37:03 PM »
Surely, any punishment has to be stated in advance.  Clearly the magnitude of a fine will need to be assessed after the event depending on the severity but points deduction or preventing promotion cannot be left until after the event as you can just imagine the impartiality that could come into play.

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Re: Post season thread
« Reply #183 on: May 15, 2017, 12:33:05 PM »
I'm just glad its all over for another year, for the 6th year in a row. Not sure that's how you're meant to feel though.

One day I'll be sad when a season ends.


Offline mr underhill

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Re: Post season thread
« Reply #184 on: May 15, 2017, 12:50:34 PM »
the Doctor's being very pragmatic about it

Online ChicagoLion

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Re: Post season thread
« Reply #185 on: May 15, 2017, 12:59:32 PM »
Surely, any punishment has to be stated in advance.  Clearly the magnitude of a fine will need to be assessed after the event depending on the severity but points deduction or preventing promotion cannot be left until after the event as you can just imagine the impartiality that could come into play.
So far the punishment for similar has been transfer embargoes.
Or turning a blind eye to blatant book cooking.

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Post season thread
« Reply #186 on: May 15, 2017, 03:31:18 PM »
Other than this season, when was the last time we played only 2 cup ties in a season? That depresses me as much as any league stats.

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Re: Post season thread
« Reply #187 on: May 15, 2017, 04:45:06 PM »
Surely, any punishment has to be stated in advance.  Clearly the magnitude of a fine will need to be assessed after the event depending on the severity but points deduction or preventing promotion cannot be left until after the event as you can just imagine the impartiality that could come into play.
So far the punishment for similar has been transfer embargoes.
Or turning a blind eye to blatant book cooking.

You can bet that if we were in breach, we would have the book thrown at us.

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Re: Post season thread
« Reply #188 on: May 16, 2017, 03:41:01 AM »
Surely, any punishment has to be stated in advance.  Clearly the magnitude of a fine will need to be assessed after the event depending on the severity but points deduction or preventing promotion cannot be left until after the event as you can just imagine the impartiality that could come into play.
So far the punishment for similar has been transfer embargoes.
Or turning a blind eye to blatant book cooking.

You can bet that if we were in breach, we would have the book thrown at us.

yup

Online ChicagoLion

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Re: Post season thread
« Reply #189 on: May 19, 2017, 01:07:27 PM »
Worryingly the Telegraph has an article suggesting we have allready blown our best chance of returning to the PL based on recent statistics.

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Re: Post season thread
« Reply #190 on: May 22, 2017, 09:16:00 PM »
I am not overly concerned at the teams dropping. It's not like they are teams full of good players who are likely to stop with them.

Depending on who Boro get in as a new manager, they should be solid enough. They have a Gabby problem in their squad re the ever expanding Stewart Downing but their coaches never gave them a chance with their negative tactics last season and poor recruitment on crap like Traore.

Sunderland look ripe for a takeover, Pickford and Defoe should bring in a decent amount of cash and a lot of their deadwood are out of contract.  Hull will probably get relegated again


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Re: Post season thread
« Reply #191 on: May 22, 2017, 09:24:27 PM »
I am not overly concerned at the teams dropping. It's not like they are teams full of good players who are likely to stop with them.

Depending on who Boro get in as a new manager, they should be solid enough. They have a Gabby problem in their squad re the ever expanding Stewart Downing but their coaches never gave them a chance with their negative tactics last season and poor recruitment on crap like Traore.

Sunderland look ripe for a takeover, Pickford and Defoe should bring in a decent amount of cash and a lot of their deadwood are out of contract.  Hull will probably get relegated again



They won't get anything for Defoe, he has a relegation clause meaning he can go for free.

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Re: Post season thread
« Reply #192 on: May 22, 2017, 09:26:50 PM »
Tom Fox negotiated that clause it would seem.

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Re: Post season thread
« Reply #193 on: May 22, 2017, 09:28:10 PM »
Worryingly the Telegraph has an article suggesting we have allready blown our best chance of returning to the PL based on recent statistics.


In those statistics, how many clubs were of similar size or stature or conversely how many were the absolute shambles we'd become?

We defy statistics. Statistics can fuck off.



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Re: Post season thread
« Reply #194 on: May 23, 2017, 12:20:22 PM »
Worryingly the Telegraph has an article suggesting we have allready blown our best chance of returning to the PL based on recent statistics.


In those statistics, how many clubs were of similar size or stature or conversely how many were the absolute shambles we'd become?

We defy statistics. Statistics can fuck off.
Our stature is of a lower half 2nd Division club that is still making huge mistakes with player acquisitions, only 1 of the last 18 that failed to bounce back the first season have been subsequently promoted.

 


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