Fallen former football giant 0-6 Liverpool Post Match thread.

[sickbeggar]

Howe would be my choice. He'd come as well

[Dave Pountney]

We have an owner with no previous experience of running a football club, who naively gave free reign to his first manager. We have recently appointed a Chairman who has no experience of running a football club.

Our current CEO has no previous experience of running a football club, neither did his predecessor.

In the summer we replaced our only proven Premiership footballers with mostly unproven players from another country. We had previously tried, unsuccessfully, the same principle with 'young and hungry (cheap)' players from lower leagues. We gave extended contracts to the remnants of those players, who were clearly not good enough, while failing to give contracts to some who were.

This time last year we replaced our incoherent manager, with a cockney chancer who had less than 6 months experience. A man ridiculed by both fans and press alike for his limited tactical ability. We've replaced him with a foreign manager with no previous experience of managing a Premier League club (never mind one in free fall).  Who they then failed to back.

I genuinely feel sorry for Remi, he's been let down by players he has no responsibility for and has been hung out to dry by those running the club.

It takes a special level of incompetence to do all this and lose close on £250m in the process.

Despite all of this, there is no excuse for what we witnessed today.

Many of the team today are not good enough (Bunn, Sinclair, Lescott, Westwood, Gil, Gabby, Clark, Richardson, Hutton, Guzan) we have a few players who are maybe good enough (Cissokho, Okore, Gana, Veretout) but I cannot forgive those players who not good enough and clearly do not give a fuck (Richards, Bacuna). The former is supposed to be the club captain.

This is more or less exactly my view and I couldn't have put it better. We are, as a club, an enfeebled punchbag for the rest of the Premiership and have become a disrespected laughing stock, mocked and taunted by all those who've waited a long time for us to be this bad. They have had to wait until an incompetent buffoon bought us because before then we had professionalism and pride that set us apart from a lot of our rivals, particularly the local ones, and while they mistook our pride for conceit and arrogance, they respected us, albeit through gritted teeth. Now, because of the wilful incompetence of those who own and manage this grand old club, the last vestiges of respect have gone. Lerner's Villa, not my Villa I'll have you know, is rotten to the core, represented by millionaire mediocrities on the pitch and out of their depth misfits off it. He has brought us this low, nobody else. This hideous mutation he has created, his Aston Villa, is something I am now deeply ashamed of. I'm not guilty about saying that because I still love the club. I just loathe Lerner's club and more or less everybody who is a part of it. It's an alien being that I'm no longer associated with in any meaningful sense. Of course, I'm still emotionally attached to the Villa, but that's miles away from caring about Lerner's mutation. Two completely different concepts that are currently overlapping.

I await Lerner's eventual disappearance and then the long and winding road to resurrect the Villa I love will have to begin.

[Jimmy Buffett]

I've been badly ill all weekend.

Led in the sickbed, I was watching the game on the iPad and turned it off after the second goal.

I woke up about 5 ish and saw the BBC page that I'd had open said 0-2. Not too bad considering how crap we'd defended.

Then I refreshed the page......

Let's face it the players are just here for the exceedingly big bucks, Ferraris, Porches, Merc FWD's etc. Not one of them could give a fuck for AVFC. Win or lose the money just keeps rolling in.

[Des Little]

Howe would be my choice. He'd come as well

Do you think he would? I'm not being sarky/funny...I just can't see any manager worth his salt would risk his reputation with this current gaggle of clueless clowns at the helm.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

Howe would be my choice. He'd come as well

Don or Sir Geoffrey ?

[sickbeggar]

Howe would be my choice. He'd come as well

Do you think he would? I'm not being sarky/funny...I just can't see any manager worth his salt would risk his reputation with this current gaggle of clueless clowns at the helm.

He's done some frankly astonishing things for Bournemouth and he's loyal to them but we're not Burnley. Nearest thing to SGT. i think he'd go through this club like a dose of salts

[LeeB]

Howe would be my choice. He'd come as well

I fear Don would struggle to get his message across.

Still be better at left back than Richardson though.

[Stu]

Howe would be my choice. He'd come as well

Do you think he would? I'm not being sarky/funny...I just can't see any manager worth his salt would risk his reputation with this current gaggle of clueless clowns at the helm.

He's done some frankly astonishing things for Bournemouth and he's loyal to them but we're not Burnley. Nearest thing to SGT. i think he'd go through this club like a dose of salts

He'd face the same problems as all the others.

[sickbeggar]

Howe would be my choice. He'd come as well

Do you think he would? I'm not being sarky/funny...I just can't see any manager worth his salt would risk his reputation with this current gaggle of clueless clowns at the helm.

He's done some frankly astonishing things for Bournemouth and he's loyal to them but we're not Burnley. Nearest thing to SGT. i think he'd go through this club like a dose of salts

He'd face the same problems as all the others.

nah, it would be like SGT. He's doing them a favour not the other way round like lambert, TSG, Sherwood. Finally a manager with a bit of clout

[olaftab]

Howe would be my choice. He'd come as well

I fear Don would struggle to get his message across.
Still be better at left back than Richardson though.

I think he would not be able to make his presence felt!

[steffo]

The board is structured that the football manager is bottom of the pile.

[sickbeggar]

The board is structured that the football manager is bottom of the pile.

Things change. Doug used to employ yes-men until he got relegated. Then he changed his mind.

[Archie]

It could be worse. It could rain.

[ROBBO]

I am surprised Garde is still with us, he was obviously done over in January I suspect by the new chairman, in his own best interests he should walk now, integrity comes before money and the supporters will understand and sympathise.
To his critics I would say this looking at the squad available today who would you have played that would have made a difference? play the kids I hear well Lyden got his chance second half and looked out of his depth, I haven't read of any other youngster that is knocking the door down. All that Garde can do is change the deck chairs, when I see players that were once ours playing for opposition teams it just reinforces how far we have fallen.

[Pete]

It could be worse. It could rain.

Snowing here. There won't be enough to build a snowman though.