Quote from: oswald funkletrumpet on February 17, 2016, 03:13:08 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on February 17, 2016, 12:30:01 PMQuote from: oswald funkletrumpet on February 17, 2016, 09:47:02 AMI like Garde, I just think he is the right manager at the wrong time.He got stiffed big time in the transfer window and he inherited a lot of shit, but lets be honest it's 2 wins in what 14 games and the team still looks as half arsed, unmotivated and disjointed as it's ever been. For me he has had zero effect since coming in.I'm going to have to go and shower for a week because i feel so dirty for saying it but when we are in the championship garde aint going to be the man to get us out, it needs a dirty horrible bastard like PearsonSo all the managers who have gotten teams promoted from the Championship have been dirty horrible bastards like Pearson? Because I would contend that there are several types of manager that have gotten teams promoted from the Championship, so Garde will do just fine. And Pearson will remain a dirty horrible bastard that we should avoid like the plague.Not all the managers no, did I say all the managers?Let's face facts, in the january transfer window the club did sod all so chances are they will do the same in the summer, minimal outlay and few free transfers.Much as I want them gone the majority of the squad will still be here, so Garde is going to have to, for the most part work with what we have now and probably more shit.Garde isn't motivating the team now and 2 wins in 14 suggests he has had no discernible impact on the team, so what is he going to do that will dramatically improve things in the championship?Judging the man after 16 games, knowing full well the pile of shit he not only inherited, but was then forced to work with exclusively in January. Absolute bat shit crazy!
Quote from: Toronto Villa on February 17, 2016, 12:30:01 PMQuote from: oswald funkletrumpet on February 17, 2016, 09:47:02 AMI like Garde, I just think he is the right manager at the wrong time.He got stiffed big time in the transfer window and he inherited a lot of shit, but lets be honest it's 2 wins in what 14 games and the team still looks as half arsed, unmotivated and disjointed as it's ever been. For me he has had zero effect since coming in.I'm going to have to go and shower for a week because i feel so dirty for saying it but when we are in the championship garde aint going to be the man to get us out, it needs a dirty horrible bastard like PearsonSo all the managers who have gotten teams promoted from the Championship have been dirty horrible bastards like Pearson? Because I would contend that there are several types of manager that have gotten teams promoted from the Championship, so Garde will do just fine. And Pearson will remain a dirty horrible bastard that we should avoid like the plague.Not all the managers no, did I say all the managers?Let's face facts, in the january transfer window the club did sod all so chances are they will do the same in the summer, minimal outlay and few free transfers.Much as I want them gone the majority of the squad will still be here, so Garde is going to have to, for the most part work with what we have now and probably more shit.Garde isn't motivating the team now and 2 wins in 14 suggests he has had no discernible impact on the team, so what is he going to do that will dramatically improve things in the championship?
Quote from: oswald funkletrumpet on February 17, 2016, 09:47:02 AMI like Garde, I just think he is the right manager at the wrong time.He got stiffed big time in the transfer window and he inherited a lot of shit, but lets be honest it's 2 wins in what 14 games and the team still looks as half arsed, unmotivated and disjointed as it's ever been. For me he has had zero effect since coming in.I'm going to have to go and shower for a week because i feel so dirty for saying it but when we are in the championship garde aint going to be the man to get us out, it needs a dirty horrible bastard like PearsonSo all the managers who have gotten teams promoted from the Championship have been dirty horrible bastards like Pearson? Because I would contend that there are several types of manager that have gotten teams promoted from the Championship, so Garde will do just fine. And Pearson will remain a dirty horrible bastard that we should avoid like the plague.
I like Garde, I just think he is the right manager at the wrong time.He got stiffed big time in the transfer window and he inherited a lot of shit, but lets be honest it's 2 wins in what 14 games and the team still looks as half arsed, unmotivated and disjointed as it's ever been. For me he has had zero effect since coming in.I'm going to have to go and shower for a week because i feel so dirty for saying it but when we are in the championship garde aint going to be the man to get us out, it needs a dirty horrible bastard like Pearson
Quote from: gpbarr on February 18, 2016, 12:25:53 PMQuote from: oswald funkletrumpet on February 17, 2016, 03:13:08 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on February 17, 2016, 12:30:01 PMQuote from: oswald funkletrumpet on February 17, 2016, 09:47:02 AMI like Garde, I just think he is the right manager at the wrong time.He got stiffed big time in the transfer window and he inherited a lot of shit, but lets be honest it's 2 wins in what 14 games and the team still looks as half arsed, unmotivated and disjointed as it's ever been. For me he has had zero effect since coming in.I'm going to have to go and shower for a week because i feel so dirty for saying it but when we are in the championship garde aint going to be the man to get us out, it needs a dirty horrible bastard like PearsonSo all the managers who have gotten teams promoted from the Championship have been dirty horrible bastards like Pearson? Because I would contend that there are several types of manager that have gotten teams promoted from the Championship, so Garde will do just fine. And Pearson will remain a dirty horrible bastard that we should avoid like the plague.Not all the managers no, did I say all the managers?Let's face facts, in the january transfer window the club did sod all so chances are they will do the same in the summer, minimal outlay and few free transfers.Much as I want them gone the majority of the squad will still be here, so Garde is going to have to, for the most part work with what we have now and probably more shit.Garde isn't motivating the team now and 2 wins in 14 suggests he has had no discernible impact on the team, so what is he going to do that will dramatically improve things in the championship?Judging the man after 16 games, knowing full well the pile of shit he not only inherited, but was then forced to work with exclusively in January. Absolute bat shit crazy!It is, but not quite as Yampy as some of the people who think he'll be replacing Wenger at Arsenal. I know you can't polish a turd but you can stiffen one up a bit. I expect that of any manager at Villa, regardless of anything else.
We need to let someone literally decimate this squad
Quote from: ozzjim on February 18, 2016, 01:04:10 PMWe need to let someone literally decimate this squadI think we probably need to get rid of more than two or three players.
Quote from: Dave on February 18, 2016, 01:41:51 PMQuote from: ozzjim on February 18, 2016, 01:04:10 PMWe need to let someone literally decimate this squadI think we probably need to get rid of more than two or three players.Very good Dave. I would settle for a public hanging of 1 in every 10. The choice would be tough though. Maybe abolish would be better then. It does pose the question over the validity of the wider usage of decimate then, as it is clearly used in a lazy context (at least was by me above).
Quote from: RussellC on February 18, 2016, 11:12:04 AMAs far as I'm concerned, it's almost impossible to judge Garde one way or another. He's working with a squad that he's inherited, that have never at any given time all been fit and available with no backing from the people that employed him. At times the side have looked more organised than they did previously, but in other games they've looked a million times worse. Who can really make a considered judgement on him either way? One thing's for sure, now that he's in place, the club would have to be fucking stupid to want to flip the proverbial coin again and look for yet another Manager. that said, the 'club' have proven themselves to be fucking stupid on numerous occasions in recent years, so nothing would surprise me.Spot on. We need to let someone literally decimate this squad, and rebuild it from top to bottom. I fear the club will simply punt out Garde and go for anyone who says they will work with what is there and the kids. I reckon anyone willing to do it under the financial restrictions in place will be handed the keys in the summer.
As far as I'm concerned, it's almost impossible to judge Garde one way or another. He's working with a squad that he's inherited, that have never at any given time all been fit and available with no backing from the people that employed him. At times the side have looked more organised than they did previously, but in other games they've looked a million times worse. Who can really make a considered judgement on him either way? One thing's for sure, now that he's in place, the club would have to be fucking stupid to want to flip the proverbial coin again and look for yet another Manager. that said, the 'club' have proven themselves to be fucking stupid on numerous occasions in recent years, so nothing would surprise me.
I suspect if Garde goes he will get a reputation that might be undeserved.
Quote from: ozzjim on February 18, 2016, 01:47:52 PMQuote from: Dave on February 18, 2016, 01:41:51 PMQuote from: ozzjim on February 18, 2016, 01:04:10 PMWe need to let someone literally decimate this squadI think we probably need to get rid of more than two or three players.Very good Dave. I would settle for a public hanging of 1 in every 10. The choice would be tough though. Maybe abolish would be better then. It does pose the question over the validity of the wider usage of decimate then, as it is clearly used in a lazy context (at least was by me above). It does. We could probably do with a "pedantry" emoticon for situations like this.
Wednesday next week (24th Feb) I've got an invite to an event at VP through my work. Stadium tour, lunch, then a Q & A with first team player and the manager in the afternoon. I'm really looking forward to it.If I get a chance what sort of things would H & Vers suggest I ask ? Serious suggestions only please.