Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[gpbarr]

Judging the man after 16 games, knowing full well the pile of shit he not only inherited, but was then forced to work with exclusively in January.

Absolute bat shit crazy!
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It is, but not quite as Yampy as some of the people who think he'll be replacing Wenger at Arsenal. I know you can't polish a turd but you can stiffen one up a bit. I expect that of any manager at Villa, regardless of anything else.
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Rome wasn't built in a day I understand that but just to reiterate Garde has had zero impact. Next season the turd will be bigger and probably  2/3 flushes
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Super. Then let's can him (why not after all) and go again with another savior. Let's see where repeating the ills of the last 5 years gets us.

Division 3 I suspect.
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i dont disagree with you

but lets be honest can you give any good reasons why garde is going to be the man to get us out of the championship?
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Sure - two - he talks sense (as opposed most our previous managers or the frightening suggestions people make for replacements such as Pearson), and he has a lot of credibility from his days with Lyon building a team with limited funding (as we will continue to be next year). Could you give me a good reason he couldn't?

[ciggiesnbeer]

The "he talks like a sane person" angle goes a long way for me.

Although the results have been terrible I know I can tune in to the post game interview knowing my day wont be made even more miserable by our manager being deluded.

I am pretty certain he will be off in the summer given the lack of backing I would be delighted if he stayed.

[supertom]

The "he talks like a sane person" angle goes a long way for me.

Although the results have been terrible I know I can tune in to the post game interview knowing my day wont be made even more miserable by our manager being deluded.

I am pretty certain he will be off in the summer given the lack of backing I would be delighted if he stayed.

I'd actually be surprised if poor ol' Remi lasts until May. It must be an absolutely fucking horrible job. He might be thumbing the job ads to see if there's any muck spreading positions going down the nearest farm. That might be more favourable than having to try and train Leandro Bacuna to kick a ball vaguely in the direction he wants to, or trying to get Flabby to shed half a tonne of paunch.

[mr underhill]

herding cats would be easier

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

herding cats would be easier

https://vimeo.com/26828021

[amfy]

Can anyone who thinks we've seen no improvement since he took over explain how, even after last weekend's debacle, we are 11th on current form?

11th! Given how we ended last season, I would be delighted if that was our actual position, and that is where he has us playing to right now.

Sadly, there is too much ground to make up, and the teams around us are also showing improved form so the upturn isn't showing in our league position, but our form is clearly better than the first half of the season.

Last week was awful, but it was one game after a reasonable run where there was cause for cautious optimism. A current form table that still places us 11th maybe gives that a bit of context.

[Toronto Villa]

Weren't we 4th in the form table or something before the Liverpool game?

[oswald funkletrumpet]

Can anyone who thinks we've seen no improvement since he took over explain how, even after last weekend's debacle, we are 11th on current form?

11th! Given how we ended last season, I would be delighted if that was our actual position, and that is where he has us playing to right now.

Sadly, there is too much ground to make up, and the teams around us are also showing improved form so the upturn isn't showing in our league position, but our form is clearly better than the first half of the season.

Last week was awful, but it was one game after a reasonable run where there was cause for cautious optimism. A current form table that still places us 11th maybe gives that a bit of context.

2 wins in 14, i think a minus 14 gd and still rock bottom but hey we are 11th on current form. 

i'll try and remember that when we are away at rotherham in february

[Richard E]

Rotherham away is in October.

[john e]

Proper away day is Rotherham

[old man villa fan]

Can anyone who thinks we've seen no improvement since he took over explain how, even after last weekend's debacle, we are 11th on current form?

11th! Given how we ended last season, I would be delighted if that was our actual position, and that is where he has us playing to right now.

Sadly, there is too much ground to make up, and the teams around us are also showing improved form so the upturn isn't showing in our league position, but our form is clearly better than the first half of the season.

Last week was awful, but it was one game after a reasonable run where there was cause for cautious optimism. A current form table that still places us 11th maybe gives that a bit of context.

2 wins in 14, i think a minus 14 gd and still rock bottom but hey we are 11th on current form. 

i'll try and remember that when we are away at rotherham in february

Bit of a blinkered view, isn't it?

[amfy]

Can anyone who thinks we've seen no improvement since he took over explain how, even after last weekend's debacle, we are 11th on current form?

11th! Given how we ended last season, I would be delighted if that was our actual position, and that is where he has us playing to right now.

Sadly, there is too much ground to make up, and the teams around us are also showing improved form so the upturn isn't showing in our league position, but our form is clearly better than the first half of the season.

Last week was awful, but it was one game after a reasonable run where there was cause for cautious optimism. A current form table that still places us 11th maybe gives that a bit of context.

2 wins in 14, i think a minus 14 gd and still rock bottom but hey we are 11th on current form. 

i'll try and remember that when we are away at rotherham in february

We'll be at Rotherham next season because of stuff that's happened before now. We were losing EVERY game, then we started to draw some, and IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS we have won a couple (not in the last 14) - that is an upturn. I don't see how itv can be argued that it isn't.

[Dante Lavelli]

Wednesday next week (24th Feb) I've got an invite to an event at VP through my work.
Stadium tour, lunch, then a Q & A with first team player and the manager in the afternoon. I'm really looking forward to it.
If I get a chance what sort of things would H & Vers suggest I ask ? Serious suggestions only please.

Partly due to various discussions on here, but I'd be interested to know whether Garde thinks that a different skill set is required for managing in the championship versus managing a club in the premiership and whether he will look to change his style?

[Villa in Denmark]

Can anyone who thinks we've seen no improvement since he took over explain how, even after last weekend's debacle, we are 11th on current form?

11th! Given how we ended last season, I would be delighted if that was our actual position, and that is where he has us playing to right now.

Sadly, there is too much ground to make up, and the teams around us are also showing improved form so the upturn isn't showing in our league position, but our form is clearly better than the first half of the season.

Last week was awful, but it was one game after a reasonable run where there was cause for cautious optimism. A current form table that still places us 11th maybe gives that a bit of context.

2 wins in 14, i think a minus 14 gd and still rock bottom but hey we are 11th on current form. 

i'll try and remember that when we are away at rotherham in february

We'll be at Rotherham next season because of stuff that's happened before now. We were losing EVERY game, then we started to draw some, and IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS we have won a couple (not in the last 14) - that is an upturn. I don't see how itv can be argued that it isn't.

As ever Amfy, a voice of reason and common sense.

Unfortunately the desperation of our position and the raw upset and anger it engenders means that not many people want to listen to reason. (Not criticising those people, and understandable, perfectly human response.)

That's compounded by the fact that their isn't a definite focus for that anger which leads to squabbles about who should get both barrels first.

Lerner - never here and too well insulated from it all so how do you get at him?
Hollis - only just arrived, how much can be his fault?
Fox - is it his fault he appears to be overpromoted? Just Lerner's lackey?
Garde - making the best from an impossible situation or incompetent for not getting us closer to safety?
The players - for appearing to have been duplicitous wankers in one half of the squad, or not good enough in general?

Plenty of people to have a go at, depending on your point of view, but until there's a definite single point to focus on, there'll be as much in-fighting as blood letting.
And until there's been that blood letting rational debate of our situation (other than we're FUBAR) will be difficult.

[Hoppo]

Just because others have a different view point doesn't mean their not listening to reason.
When I see my manager standing like a book end for 90 minutes, without showing a glimpse of emotion when were getting battered, I may get a tad pissed off.