Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[garyfouroaks]

Pearson is the only realistic option to act as a catalyst for revival.

[Holte L2]

Pearson is the only realistic option to act as a catalyst for revival.

According to Pearson's agent, possibly.

[Dave]

Pearson is the only realistic option to act as a catalyst for revival.

According to Pearson's agent, possibly.

I think there must be a strong chance that garyfouroaks is Pearson's agent.

[Villa in Denmark]

Some of the posts above seem to come from the English 'commitment and fight' school of management. Shouting and looking angry is not leadership.

I'd settle for someone who looks like they have a pulse. Most of the players and now the management look like they've just been stuffed into the fridge at the local morgue.
1. feel for Garde and he has some of the right ideas but he's not got the dressing room on board, which regardless of circumstances, is a huge failing.
2. And since the transfer window he just seems completely done. The job looks like a pain in the fucking ass (and it is).

3. Pearson probably would have kept us up.
4. Okay long term he wouldn't be fantastic, but football isn't about long term these days. It's fight to survive, or spunk gazillions on buying the title. The odd anomaly aside (Leicester for this year only), the league is quite predictable.
5. Spend and you do pretty well. Don't and your fucked. Ultimately a good structure and running of the club puts you on a good footing. The bottom three currently are the most shambolic clubs in the top flight. Each are an insult to football and stink to high heaven because of the poor infrastructure and we should have been flushed long before now.

6. Garde's not going to rouse the troops.
7. I don't think there's any way back for him. He's not got the right approach.
8. He's not got any backing and he's rapidly losing the will to drag himself out of bed in the morning by the look of him. By May he'll look like Harry Redknapps arse. I don't see him coming back refreshed and full of fight in the summer. I see us draining the lifeblood out of the poor fucker.
9. Sack him off, and get some gruff grunting bastard like Pearson who knows that league and will growl us into shape. It's the only way under this current regime.

F¤¤k me, that's the most hypebolic load of prejudicial bollocks you've come out with since your "Helenius is a bad egg" bile session 6 months before the depression diagnosis.

1. Odd then that most people thought that there'd been a bit of  turnaround and things were starting to head in the right direction, at least attitude wise after the nadir  Wycombe. What the hell happened between Norwich and Sunday will hopefully be revealed one day. The one thing that's obvious is that Sherwood who built the bloody team couldn't get them playing for each other.  If one group or the other have got the hump (or in our case apparently both) it doesn't matter if you've got Gunnery Sergeant Hartman giving you a bollocking, Sigmund Freud sitting you down to discuss your anger issues or Evangeline Lilly promising you all sorts of favours, when there's as much bad blood as there appears to be between various factions, any truce is only going to be temporary.

2. He's just been f¤¤ked over by the those who should be backing him.  What does anyone expect? A Fred Astaire style entrance to press conferences?

3. See part 1. I don't think anyone could have kept us up without getting 3 or 4 players in to go with what was already there and give himself a "clear majority" in the dressing room. (Assuming a good chunk don't care either way and just keep their heads down.  Playground politics at it's finest.)

4. How do you think we got into this mess in the first place, because it sure as f¤¤k wasn't long term planning.  Long term planning is what got Swansea up and until recently comfortable.  Long term planning is what got Southampton lined up for a second consecutive top 6 finish spending not much more in 2 seasons that we spent in MON's last season

5. Again have you actually been watching what's been happening.  It's not lack of spending that's sending us down.  It's spending money badly, without any thought of tomorrow, or of today actually looking at deals like bringing Gestede into a team that can't cross the ball, or a recruitment strategy that hasn't thought about whether these players will actually function together, regardless of whether they're decent footballers or not.

6. I don't think anyone could.  The likes of Richards and Gabby obviously don't give a fuck, the French recruits are trying, but don't trust "the other lot" and then there's the likes of Bunn, Okore who I suspect are part of the pack that's doing their best to keep their heads down, and do just enough not to piss either faction or the boss off.

7. He's absolutely got the right approach.  It involves employing footballers who can think with more than either their dicks or their wallets. (Any inference of the two together is entirely of your own making unless substantiated with hard evidence for which The Sunday Sun will probably pay well for.). It involves having an actual game plan instead of Sherwood's kick and rush or Lambert's let's see how many back-passes we can manage from a goal kick.  Or do you think Pulis/Pearson/Alardyce ball is the way to go.  Look at the records of the teams promoted since the second tier changed to "The Championship" in 2004/05.  33 teams promoted and the only ones I can recall as a bit "kick it and run" are
Watford (Aidey Boothroyd) 2005/06
Stoke (Tony Pulis) 2007/08
Wolves  (Mick McCarthy) 2008/09
Leicester (Nigel Pearson) 2013/14

8. There's no doubt he was royally shafted those last 2 days of January when Hollis/Fox wouldn't cough for the deals he'd set up, but.......  Whoever is in the hot seat is going to have to gut the squad (although I'd guess that a good chunk of that will happen automatically) and be backed in the transfer market.

9. I hope to god that you're either taking the piss or are on your 5th round of Absinthe and Domestos with moonshine chasers. People talk about people getting the club.  I reckon the only thing Pearson gets is an anxiety attack every time he's asked a question that isn't either his name and date of birth or his shoe size. If you thought Lambert was an easy target for his unintelligible bullshit, wait until you've listened to a few of Pearson's pseudo intellectual passive aggressive bollocks because he's afraid of revealing himself to be even thicker than everyone already thinks he is. Last season one of the Danish channels that covers the PL made a montage of his interviews. nearly two minutes of "ur", "well", "because I said so" interspersed with some "inventive" questions of course.  And all the time him getting redder and redder in the face. The man's a troglodyte in appearance, intellect and approach to the world.  The name of Aston Villa Football Club is wounded enough as it is. We don't need it being indelibly stained by offering him employment.

[mr underhill]

can we all just calm down a bit?

[mr underhill]

PS - by that I mean can we try and have a rational debate on things without applying ever more outrageous adjectives as a prefix to people's perceived inadequacies etc.? This debate is starting to remind me of those absurd colour charts you pick up in car show rooms or B & Q.   (Guantanamo Yellow/Intense Cassis and that sort of thing).

[Ron Manager]

What we really want,in our hour of need,is for Fred Rinder to rise from his grave get back to Villa Park and sort the whole bloody mess out with a rod of iron.

[dave shelley]

PS - by that I mean can we try and have a rational debate on things without applying ever more outrageous adjectives as a prefix to people's perceived inadequacies etc.? This debate is starting to remind me of those absurd colour charts you pick up in car show rooms or B & Q.   (Guantanamo Yellow/Intense Cassis and that sort of thing).

Or, in the case of my last car: Lunar Sky...Brown!

[maigrait]

Pearson is so not the right fella. Booted out from leicester due to being a poisonous character.
Yes he kept them up but they seem to be doing an ok job without him being around. Maybe just maybe its the players that rallied around themselves to get out of relegation who knows.....

Hopefully Garde stays. He seems to have the right thing to say at the interviews which makes a change. If the players dont follow instructions what are you to do?

Everyone saying play u21 players. Are they any good on the main stage? To push them in without any easing them in to the situation would surely be a folly? Although not bringing an u21 striker into the fold is perhaps a bit silly due to our current injuries.

The whole club is in a bit of a mess.

The buying cheap players consistently for seasons has come to roost. Did lerner think it would be possible to survive just on that strategy alone? If it was that easy all the teams would be doing it....,

UTV

[peter w]

Credit where credit's due Pearson did a brilliant job at Leicester and did well at the Albion, too. My issue with him is that he's an arrogant contemptible Canute.

[postal]

If we lose at Stoke, I hope that Garde goes, for his own sake and sanity.
Either way, he'll go in the summer as I dont think he has the mentality to cope in the Championship and he wont get the backing from the Board.

I like him and there has been times when the "team" have almost done what seems to have been asked and been close to not screwing up. But we are have very "light" players in the midfield, when you need a couple of big men to create the spine. We'll need that next season.

And I'm sick of Harry "I'm still relevant" Redknapp commenting on, well, anything really.

[berneboy]

What we really want,in our hour of need,is for Fred Rinder to rise from his grave get back to Villa Park and sort the whole bloody mess out with a rod of iron.

What a good idea.

[RussellC]

As far as I'm concerned, it's almost impossible to judge Garde one way or another.

He's working with a squad that he's inherited, that have never at any given time all been fit and available with no backing from the people that employed him. At times the side have looked more organised than they did previously, but in other games they've looked a million times worse.

Who can really make a considered judgement on him either way? One thing's for sure, now that he's in place, the club would have to be fucking stupid to want to flip the proverbial coin again and look for yet another Manager. that said, the 'club' have proven themselves to be fucking stupid on numerous occasions in recent years, so nothing would surprise me.

[gpbarr]

I like Garde, I just think he is the right manager at the wrong time.

He got stiffed big time in the transfer window and he inherited a lot of shit, but lets be honest it's 2 wins in what 14 games and the team still looks as half arsed, unmotivated and disjointed as it's ever been. For me he has had zero effect since coming in.

I'm going to have to go and shower for a week because i feel so dirty for saying it but when we are in the championship garde aint going to be the man to get us out, it needs a dirty horrible bastard like Pearson

So all the managers who have gotten teams promoted from the Championship have been dirty horrible bastards like Pearson? Because I would contend that there are several types of manager that have gotten teams promoted from the Championship, so Garde will do just fine. And Pearson will remain a dirty horrible bastard that we should avoid like the plague.

Not all the managers no, did I say all the managers?

Let's face facts, in the january transfer window the club did sod all so chances are they will do the same in the summer, minimal outlay and few free transfers.

Much as I want them gone the majority of the squad will still be here, so Garde is going to have to, for the most part work with what we have now and probably more shit.

Garde isn't motivating the team now and 2 wins in 14 suggests he has had no discernible impact on the team, so what is he going to do that will dramatically improve things in the championship?

Judging the man after 16 games, knowing full well the pile of shit he not only inherited, but was then forced to work with exclusively in January.

Absolute bat shit crazy!

[ozzjim]

As far as I'm concerned, it's almost impossible to judge Garde one way or another.

He's working with a squad that he's inherited, that have never at any given time all been fit and available with no backing from the people that employed him. At times the side have looked more organised than they did previously, but in other games they've looked a million times worse.

Who can really make a considered judgement on him either way? One thing's for sure, now that he's in place, the club would have to be fucking stupid to want to flip the proverbial coin again and look for yet another Manager. that said, the 'club' have proven themselves to be fucking stupid on numerous occasions in recent years, so nothing would surprise me.

Spot on.

We need to let someone literally decimate this squad, and rebuild it from top to bottom. I fear the club will simply punt out Garde and go for anyone who says they will work with what is there and the kids.

I reckon anyone willing to do it under the financial restrictions in place will be handed the keys in the summer.