Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[Toronto Villa]

I like Garde, I just think he is the right manager at the wrong time.

He got stiffed big time in the transfer window and he inherited a lot of shit, but lets be honest it's 2 wins in what 14 games and the team still looks as half arsed, unmotivated and disjointed as it's ever been. For me he has had zero effect since coming in.

I'm going to have to go and shower for a week because i feel so dirty for saying it but when we are in the championship garde aint going to be the man to get us out, it needs a dirty horrible bastard like Pearson

So all the managers who have gotten teams promoted from the Championship have been dirty horrible bastards like Pearson? Because I would contend that there are several types of manager that have gotten teams promoted from the Championship, so Garde will do just fine. And Pearson will remain a dirty horrible bastard that we should avoid like the plague.

[Jimbo]

Garde won't be the problem in the Championship. It will be everyone around him - owner, board, players - that'll be the problem.

[Bad English]

Every time I see a new post on this thread I say to myself "He's gone".

[pbavfckuwait]

Toronto the problem being that we will never see whether Garde could get us out because I will wager a large amount of dough he will not be here come May, either which I think he will, he will walk, or this spineless bunch of tossers we have running Randy Lerner F. C will sack him. He will be the sacrificial lamb come May.

[FranzBiberkopf]

He will be the sacrificial lamb come May.

Fox and Reilly will be too of that I have no doubt.

[aj2k77]

He will be the sacrificial lamb come May.

Fox and Reilly will be too of that I have no doubt.

Let's hope so, they're shite.

[Villa in Denmark]

I think it's gradually been well recognised that the club has been entirely dependent on the manager to be the sum of all footballing knowledge in the club from the day Lerner walked through the door.

From MON through to Lambert, they all achieved mediocre or below results based on their experience and funding levels available.

MON- No more than par for the course at best for the experience he carried and the money available.
Houllier - Below par, but could have ended up better
McLeish - Below par and going down the shitter
Lambert - Below par.  He didn't need to spend his budget exclusively on low cost gambles.

Sherwood was the straw that broke the camels back,  the very definition of all any invective simile you choose to pick. All piss and wind, all fart and no shit, take your pick.  A man with no experience, no clue and a pocket full of  readies, albeit mostly gained by sales.  The resultant mix of signings was as individuals probably not too bad, but as a group to be formed into a squad that would run through walls for each other a disaster, exacerbated by him throwing the easiest victims, the French recruits under the bus the second it looked like he was getting found out.

Ironically he might have been OK working under the sort of DoF structure he rails against

Against that backdrop I think all but the very best would have struggled. The only hope was someone coming and telling Gabby, Richards, Lescott and company to put up or f*ck off and instantly carrying the dressing room's respect to enforce it.

I suspect that that's what Garde has done, just not quite as forcefully as some might have and with the disadvantage of not instantly carrying the dressing room's respect.  Pearson for example would have had no greater effect because the French lads would thought "what a ******", whereas Richards and co would probably have said "you're a ******."

I think this season Garde's the right guy at the wrong time, but I can't think of anyone realistic who would have been.  I hope next season he's not the wrong guy at the right time. If he's given the chance to build a squad where the majority of the starting 11 are "his", peer pressure will take care of the rest and he'll do well.  At the moment he's probably got no more than 3 or 4 definitely with him, (Gueye, Veretout, Cissokho, Ayew), a couple of neutrals (Okore and Bunn) and the rest that really couldn't give a f##k.

[tomd2103]

I like Garde, I just think he is the right manager at the wrong time.

He got stiffed big time in the transfer window and he inherited a lot of shit, but lets be honest it's 2 wins in what 14 games and the team still looks as half arsed, unmotivated and disjointed as it's ever been. For me he has had zero effect since coming in.

I'm going to have to go and shower for a week because i feel so dirty for saying it but when we are in the championship garde aint going to be the man to get us out, it needs a dirty horrible bastard like Pearson

So all the managers who have gotten teams promoted from the Championship have been dirty horrible bastards like Pearson? Because I would contend that there are several types of manager that have gotten teams promoted from the Championship, so Garde will do just fine. And Pearson will remain a dirty horrible bastard that we should avoid like the plague.

He might have managed that lot across the city, but Chris Hughton is a good manager at Championship level.  You only have to look at his previous record and how he has turned Brighton around over the last couple of seasons to see that he is a good manager at that level.

[mr underhill]

hashe been there acouple of seasons? I thought they'd a merry go round of Watford-esque  proportions?

[john e]

I don't think theres a cat in hells chance of Garde being here next season

the only way I see it happening is if we improve a lot between now and the end of the season and the players look like they want to play for him the fans wil be on his side and he will be in a strong position to go to the board and say my way or no way,
I cant see that happening, so he will either walk away at the close or before, or the useless twats will sack him and bring in someone like Pearson

[oswald funkletrumpet]

I like Garde, I just think he is the right manager at the wrong time.

He got stiffed big time in the transfer window and he inherited a lot of shit, but lets be honest it's 2 wins in what 14 games and the team still looks as half arsed, unmotivated and disjointed as it's ever been. For me he has had zero effect since coming in.

I'm going to have to go and shower for a week because i feel so dirty for saying it but when we are in the championship garde aint going to be the man to get us out, it needs a dirty horrible bastard like Pearson

So all the managers who have gotten teams promoted from the Championship have been dirty horrible bastards like Pearson? Because I would contend that there are several types of manager that have gotten teams promoted from the Championship, so Garde will do just fine. And Pearson will remain a dirty horrible bastard that we should avoid like the plague.

Not all the managers no, did I say all the managers?

Let's face facts, in the january transfer window the club did sod all so chances are they will do the same in the summer, minimal outlay and few free transfers.

Much as I want them gone the majority of the squad will still be here, so Garde is going to have to, for the most part work with what we have now and probably more shit.

Garde isn't motivating the team now and 2 wins in 14 suggests he has had no discernible impact on the team, so what is he going to do that will dramatically improve things in the championship?

[walsall villain]

I can imagine that Garde will go, we will then take ages to appoint, we will be underwhelmed, we will not get players in pre season (new manager told to assess who he has first) then we will start badly and ........ bugger it, you can imagine the rest.

[in exile]

...we will not get players in pre season (new manager told to assess who he has first)

I disagree.
I'm sure Nigel Pearson knows the Villa squad already

[berneboy]

I hope M. Garde stays. But he must have support to rebuild. I'm quite sure he will go of his own free will if he isn't reassured that he can let rip.

That's my hope. My expectation is that he will go by 'mutual agreement' and be replaced by a lesser being. Yet another fresh start. And unsuccessful once again.

[walsall villain]

...we will not get players in pre season (new manager told to assess who he has first)

I disagree.
I'm sure Nigel Pearson knows the Villa squad already

They will pick someone that doesn't then.