Is celebrating an away goal among home fans ever acceptable?

[aev]

I was in the Arsenal bit last season with my 2 boys when we won. They were celebrating but I kept quiet....it was pretty obvious I guess to those around us that we were Villa fans as we were the only ones not moaning.

[PeterWithesShin]

I think some of it is that so many people are just so fucked off with glory hunting Manure fans in the home ends year after year. Obviously there is no guarantee of it but i'd imagine most people would be less pissed off if it had been say a Norwich or Fulham fan.

[amfy]

The idea of a small 'away families' section is quite a good one. Seniors and people with children could qualify for this area. We could put it flexibly at the front of the current away section, which would serve the dual purpose of allowing older and younger fans to see past those who persistently stand, whilst also providing a kind of 'buffer zone' to stop the other idiots leaping into the pitch.

[adrenachrome]

Even with the new dugouts their backroom staff were sat at the front of the trinity and were getting involved with Villa fans with comments and gestures.

That's gone on since the 70's though.
Didn't some bloke call Butler to complain about Utd staff swearing at him and Butler got on his high horse until it transpired said fella and mates had been banging on the dugout roof and then threw drinks at them?

Bring back Cullverhouse. He knew how to banter with the Lower Trinity dugout crew.

Too soon? Then Johnny Gregory will have to do. Grecian up JG and hit the north.

[pauliewalnuts]

Was in the club shop on new St Sunday and 2 what Dave whelan would call chinks but me being politically correct would class as people from another country were trying to buy tickets for the liverpool game.
Guy behind the counter said you have to have a booking history so if you buy tickets for sunderlNd game you can then have tickets for the Liverpool game they declined and walked out.
Why don't they just wear a top with Gerrard on the back fooking glory hunting shits

Bit harsh.

That match is 3 weeks away. It isn't inconceivable that they're, for example, locally based students wanting to watch a match.

I've seen plenty of young chinese people at our matches, decked out in claret and blue, and not only when we play Liverpool or Man United.

[SoccerHQ]

I think there is an opportunity here for Tom Fox or whoever to get hold of this family and blow them out of the water with hospitality executive box, photos with Benteke and some free kits for kids as well as parents etc. and watch them turn their back on Man Utd for good. In my experience indecisive people like these once a season fans only need a light breeze in the right direction to blow them off the fence forever.
Especially if it's gone as far as radio five live and the telegraph, it would be good PR.

I agree entirely.

Invite the Kids and the Mum if she really is "Villa." Ban the Dad and let him stew at home watching his 99 Treble DVD or whatever.

This bloke just strikes me as the typical fan who turns up for 1 game a season when Man. United are in town and dosen't have the first clue how to behave in the home end when they score, you get hundreds of them every season because they don't go week in week out and understand you can't celebrate wildly in the home end and not expect attention to be drawn to you at least.

[Lastfootstamper]

The idea of a small 'away families' section is quite a good one. Seniors and people with children could qualify for this area. We could put it flexibly at the front of the current away section, which would serve the dual purpose of allowing older and younger fans to see past those who persistently stand, whilst also providing a kind of 'buffer zone' to stop the other idiots leaping into the pitch.

But it'd have been of no use to this bloke as, like all clubs (I assume), he'd have needed the appropriate manyoo history to get tickets.

[SoccerHQ]

As a rule I don't pay any attention to anything a Brummie Red has to say on football, because he is a subhuman c***.

I made an exception and read this article and what struck me was how unaware the bloke is of what an epic c*** he is. I am glad the stewards made a couple of little Brummie Yanited piggies cry. Hopefully it puts them off football for life so they won't grow up to be massive c***s like their dad is.

The stewards did them a favour. I haven't seem anybody take a kicking in the Witton Lane since that Nose was bounced off every step. Quite a few were punched in the Lower Holte too. Pity somebody didn't stick one on this bellend so he didn waste licence payers airtime with his fruity rant.

If you're undercover, you keep yore head down. The golden rule.

I totally agree with this.  I'd have no problem with the Dad and his kids sitting anywhere in the home sections of the ground and staying quite but as we are all aware  a Brummie red couldn't possibly do this. Anyone who goes to football knows the rules.  In fact, I'd go as far as to say sitting in a home section should be classed as an offense as it has potential to cause a disturbance. I seen quite a few ejections from the lower Holte on Saturday, they just couldn't help themselves gobbing off and then wondered why exception was taken to them and a disturbance caused because of their behaviour.   

Nah I wouldn't go that far.

I've sat in the home end at Arsenal and Stoke loads of times in recent years because I couldn't get tickets in the away end. Most times we've scored and I've had to keep quiet.

I don't tend to find it that difficult, just a quick smile and a clench of a fist that will hardly have people running down the rows to confront me.

Probably the worst instance was when Lowton scored that wonder goal at Stoke. I was right by the Villa fans but in the other stand so had a great view of the strike but had to stay seated and watch everyone in the away end justifiably go mental.

[itbrvilla]

Was in the club shop on new St Sunday and 2 what Dave whelan would call chinks but me being politically correct would class as people from another country were trying to buy tickets for the liverpool game.
Guy behind the counter said you have to have a booking history so if you buy tickets for sunderlNd game you can then have tickets for the Liverpool game they declined and walked out.
Why don't they just wear a top with Gerrard on the back fooking glory hunting shits

Bit harsh.

That match is 3 weeks away. It isn't inconceivable that they're, for example, locally based students wanting to watch a match.

I've seen plenty of young chinese people at our matches, decked out in claret and blue, and not only when we play Liverpool or Man United.

Loads of them at the Uni too,wearing their Claret and Blue with pride.

[SoccerHQ]

Or maybe they were maybe visiting friends in Brum and didn't realise you need booking history to buy tickets for some games?

I accept they could be gloryhunters but equally they could've just decided Liverpool is more likely to be more interesting and exciting game than either Palace or Sunderland as for example they have more than two players we've heard of.

[ciggiesnbeer]

The booking history stuff is VERY confusing by the way.

I had a friend who wanted to go see a premier league game when he was visiting the UK, at my urging he tried to get a ticket at Villa. They gave him the usual "blah blah, booking history" horseshit so he gave up. Later on during his vacation the hotel he was staying at got him a ticket to see Spurs instead with no problems.

[PeterWithesShin]

Home games are the same as aways. They work on a priority system and eventually go to general sale. It's only recently we've stopped the general sale thing for Manure etc. So maybe the game he wanted hadn't reached general sale.

[Ads]

I agree with PWS, it makes people angrier because it's Brand FC supporters who routinely listen to that chant about doing what they want and putting it into practice.

It's the fact that if you looked up Gloryhunter in the dictionary, then you would find "Laurie" of Bromsgrove in there. He never misses a match on Sky.

They're vile and we better hope and prey that Arsenal, Liverpool, bloody anybody, knocks them into 5th. Another season having budgeted for CL football but come up short may mean no more official noodle sponsors.

[LeeB]

Even with the new dugouts their backroom staff were sat at the front of the trinity and were getting involved with Villa fans with comments and gestures.

That's gone on since the 70's though.
Didn't some bloke call Butler to complain about Utd staff swearing at him and Butler got on his high horse until it transpired said fella and mates had been banging on the dugout roof and then threw drinks at them?

When I was about 10 (early disclaimer), we played Sheffield Wednesday in the league cup and as a bit of a treat, me, my brother and my best mate sat in the Trinity.

For a good a good while in the 2nd half, me and my pal were popping up and down behind the old dugouts throwing little bits of grit off the little flat roofs they had at some bald geezer on their bench.

Happy days.

[Drummond]

The idea of a small 'away families' section is quite a good one. Seniors and people with children could qualify for this area. We could put it flexibly at the front of the current away section, which would serve the dual purpose of allowing older and younger fans to see past those who persistently stand, whilst also providing a kind of 'buffer zone' to stop the other idiots leaping into the pitch.

Quite. Families need the opportunity and our reputation would improve with other sets of fans too.

All fans and clubs should be doing what we can to encourage children to go to matches; not alienating them because they support the other team.