Is celebrating an away goal among home fans ever acceptable?

[dave.woodhall]

I think whilst there was standing nobody cared less what happened in the seats. My experience is of away supporters always being in Trinity Road etc right through to mid 90s. I was in "home" seats at Highbury when Townsend and Whittingham scored late on and able to cheer. Once all seater stadia came in the distinction between supporters who stood and sat ended. Since all seater stadia came in all supporters behave as those in Holte used to - bravado, singing, gestures etc. So it now almost seems a fashion to threaten, gesture, call stewards to away supporters in "home" areas.

That's true - I also remember Chelsea, West Ham, Small Heath & others in the Witton Lane mob-handed and nobody bothered much as long as they weren't in the Holte.

[jon collett]

Interestingly Stourbridge had to introduce segregated standing and refreshments for the visit of.... FC United of Manchester

Someone who knows Stourbridge better than me will correct me if I'm wrong but I think this had more to do with the way Stour's ground is set out than a risk of trouble, you can't get a huge amount of fans in the clubhouse for a start so the cricket club opened up their pavilion bar and if you have ever been to their ground you will know that the walkway at the back of the main stand isn't ideal if something like 1000 fans are all trying to change ends at half-time.

That's about right. There's no segregation for Halesowen on Boxing Day and there will be extra facilities and access via the cricket ground into the Shed.

That was my point - segregation for FCUM but not against the Yeltz - I know the Memorial Ground well ;-)
 

It was the first time FCUM had played locally so there was no indication of how many they might bring or of the crowd. As it was, the biggest league gate for forty years turned up and everything was fine so if they play next season it could well be unsegregated.

Does Barwell count as locally? (does to me) They played them last year at the end of the season in what was a huge game for FCUM with no segregation.

[dave.woodhall]

Does Barwell count as locally? (does to me) They played them last year at the end of the season in what was a huge game for FCUM with no segregation.

No it bloody doesn't.

[MarkM]

I think there is an opportunity here for Tom Fox or whoever to get hold of this family and blow them out of the water with hospitality executive box, photos with Benteke and some free kits for kids as well as parents etc. and watch them turn their back on Man Utd for good. In my experience indecisive people like these once a season fans only need a light breeze in the right direction to blow them off the fence forever.
Especially if it's gone as far as radio five live and the telegraph, it would be good PR.

I agree entirely.

Or they could say fuck them and give the package to a deserving Villa supporting family!

[jon collett]

Does Barwell count as locally? (does to me) They played them last year at the end of the season in what was a huge game for FCUM with no segregation.

No it bloody doesn't.

Irony is I bet there are almost as many Villa supporters as Leicester in Barwell. That's the draw of the Villa.

[Stinkin_Thinkin]

Or they could say fuck them and give the package to a deserving Villa supporting family!

This family obviously feel resentful they got thrown out and probably will spend the rest of their lives recounting this story about what a disgusting place it is to whoever will listen, putting people off coming to the game and giving their money to Villa.

The story is obviously in the mainstream media so it would be a good idea for Villa to be react, a photo of glory hunter family wearing their personalized Villa shirts with some of the players in the telegraph or whatever rag the story was in would be priceless. Therefore they would probably return to Aston for a few more games, spend some money in the Villa shop and recount the tale to loads of people about what a great club we are and how they're personal friends with Benteke! and deny furiously when people say 'oh you used to support manure'

A family who support Villa would never be in this situation would they?

[FrankyH]

I think there is an opportunity here for Tom Fox or whoever to get hold of this family and blow them out of the water with hospitality executive box, photos with Benteke and some free kits for kids as well as parents etc. and watch them turn their back on Man Utd for good. In my experience indecisive people like these once a season fans only need a light breeze in the right direction to blow them off the fence forever.
Especially if it's gone as far as radio five live and the telegraph, it would be good PR.

I agree entirely.

Or they could say fuck them and give the package to a deserving Villa supporting family!

I wouldn't put it past the dad asking if the hospitality could be for the Man u game next season.

[CT]

Or they could say fuck them and give the package to a deserving Villa supporting family!

Or they could say fuck them and give the package to a deserving Villa supporting family!

This family obviously feel resentful they got thrown out and probably will spend the rest of their lives recounting this story about what a disgusting place it is to whoever will listen, putting people off coming to the game and giving their money to Villa.

The story is obviously in the mainstream media so it would be a good idea for Villa to be react, a photo of glory hunter family wearing their personalized Villa shirts with some of the players in the telegraph or whatever rag the story was in would be priceless. Therefore they would probably return to Aston for a few more games, spend some money in the Villa shop and recount the tale to loads of people about what a great club we are and how they're personal friends with Benteke! and deny furiously when people say 'oh you used to support manure'

A family who support Villa would never be in this situation would they?

This family obviously feel resentful they got thrown out and probably will spend the rest of their lives recounting this story about what a disgusting place it is to whoever will listen, putting people off coming to the game and giving their money to Villa.

The story is obviously in the mainstream media so it would be a good idea for Villa to be react, a photo of glory hunter family wearing their personalized Villa shirts with some of the players in the telegraph or whatever rag the story was in would be priceless. Therefore they would probably return to Aston for a few more games, spend some money in the Villa shop and recount the tale to loads of people about what a great club we are and how they're personal friends with Benteke! and deny furiously when people say 'oh you used to support manure'

A family who support Villa would never be in this situation would they?

It's a nice idea, but where does that leave the Stewards and will they react the same way the next time this happens?

[tomd2103]

All this talk of away fans in the home end has brought back a memory for me when we played Leeds at home the last season they were in the Premier League.  I was sitting in the Trinity Road with my Dad and there were a group of quite vocal Leeds fans sitting directly behind us.  Leeds were really struggling at the time and looked certainities to go down. 

I could tell my Dad was getting quite irritated with them, but he held his tongue right up until they had seen enough and went to make an early exit (we won with Ronny Johnsen scoring if I remember correctly).  As they shuffled off he shouted "Oi lads" to which they all turned round "do us a favour next season and say hello to the Blues from us".  Didn't go down to well needless to say!   

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Or they could say fuck them and give the package to a deserving Villa supporting family!

This family obviously feel resentful they got thrown out and probably will spend the rest of their lives recounting this story about what a disgusting place it is to whoever will listen, putting people off coming to the game and giving their money to Villa.

The story is obviously in the mainstream media so it would be a good idea for Villa to be react, a photo of glory hunter family wearing their personalized Villa shirts with some of the players in the telegraph or whatever rag the story was in would be priceless. Therefore they would probably return to Aston for a few more games, spend some money in the Villa shop and recount the tale to loads of people about what a great club we are and how they're personal friends with Benteke! and deny furiously when people say 'oh you used to support manure'

A family who support Villa would never be in this situation would they?

But the dad sounds like the sort of prick who would glorify in getting something out of The Villa who he would see as grovelling to him and his kids.
Fu*k him.
If he's so keen on "treating" his kids to ManU-related activity then he should be taking them to OT, not VP and expecting all the rules to be bent to suit him.
He's a twat and we don't need any more of those at Villa Park.

UTV!

[Legion]

Being as he took them to watch ManUre against The Throstles at The Yawnthorns, are they close to the Tesco Bags as well as us?

[Brend'Watkins]

As a rule I don't pay any attention to anything a Brummie Red has to say on football, because he is a subhuman c***.

I made an exception and read this article and what struck me was how unaware the bloke is of what an epic c*** he is. I am glad the stewards made a couple of little Brummie Yanited piggies cry. Hopefully it puts them off football for life so they won't grow up to be massive c***s like their dad is.

The stewards did them a favour. I haven't seem anybody take a kicking in the Witton Lane since that Nose was bounced off every step. Quite a few were punched in the Lower Holte too. Pity somebody didn't stick one on this bellend so he didn waste licence payers airtime with his fruity rant.

If you're undercover, you keep yore head down. The golden rule.

I totally agree with this.  I'd have no problem with the Dad and his kids sitting anywhere in the home sections of the ground and staying quite but as we are all aware  a Brummie red couldn't possibly do this. Anyone who goes to football knows the rules.  In fact, I'd go as far as to say sitting in a home section should be classed as an offense as it has potential to cause a disturbance. I seen quite a few ejections from the lower Holte on Saturday, they just couldn't help themselves gobbing off and then wondered why exception was taken to them and a disturbance caused because of their behaviour.   

[class-of-82]

Was in the club shop on new St Sunday and 2 what Dave whelan would call chinks but me being politically correct would class as people from another country were trying to buy tickets for the liverpool game.
Guy behind the counter said you have to have a booking history so if you buy tickets for sunderlNd game you can then have tickets for the Liverpool game they declined and walked out.
Why don't they just wear a top with Gerrard on the back fooking glory hunting shits

[London Villan]

Even with the new dugouts their backroom staff were sat at the front of the trinity and were getting involved with Villa fans with comments and gestures.

[Witton Warrior]

Even with the new dugouts their backroom staff were sat at the front of the trinity and were getting involved with Villa fans with comments and gestures.

That's gone on since the 70's though.
Didn't some bloke call Butler to complain about Utd staff swearing at him and Butler got on his high horse until it transpired said fella and mates had been banging on the dugout roof and then threw drinks at them?