Dalian Atkinson

[Richard E]

For fuck sake Bob, you have me and Ads agreeing now.

It's a sign of the Rapture. Quick hide Sexual Ealing before God shows up!

The last thing I need right now is a fucking Rapture. Fuck's sake.

You’re more a ‘Dreaming’ or ‘Sunday Girl’ type of guy.

[Tayls_7]

Looking forward to Bob tearing Paul e a new one 

[Sexual Ealing]

For fuck sake Bob, you have me and Ads agreeing now.

It's a sign of the Rapture. Quick hide Sexual Ealing before God shows up!

The last thing I need right now is a fucking Rapture. Fuck's sake.

You’re more a ‘Dreaming’ or ‘Sunday Girl’ type of guy.

Union City Blue for me as I live in the (well, a) city.

[ChicagoLion]

This is all pretty unseemly and therefore disrespectful to Dalian's memory I reckon.

Completely agree.

[dave.woodhall]

What is your problem here?

My problem is that you're turning into a policeaphobic version of Tommy Robinson, potentially threatening a trial you so desperately want. Stop it now.

[KevinGage]

Can't we just accept that an esteemed member of this board might not be crazy about the rozzers and this latest episode confirms what many of us suspected.

No need for a pissing contest or endless quotathons.

[Axl Rose]

This is all pretty unseemly and therefore disrespectful to Dalian's memory I reckon.

Completely agree.

This.

[CT]

What I find so sad is where they show the picture of him in the Asics home shirt. He looks so young, I remember when he signed, saw most of the games he ever played for us, the goals, THAT goal.

..and now all these years on and he's dead. RIP Dalian.

[mike]

Just for the record, I was a police officer for 27 years. I put plenty of rapists, murderers and child molesters in prison. I have spent hours viewing the most disgusting videos you could imagine and matching them painstakingly with e mails to prove someone was part of an international paedophile ring. I still have nightmares about that one, but I saved a girl who was too frightened to accuse her dad from a life of torture. I sent a man who had systematically raped three of his daughters over twenty years to prison, even though none of them made a complaint. I sent down two men who had burgled and terrified a string of old people.  I comforted the bereaved, I dealt with things and saw things and shared people’s suffering in ways I suspect Bob can only imagine. I never lifted a finger to a black person and hate racism with every fibre of my being. I put myself in danger, I got injured, I carry mental scars from what I have seen and done for half the money my mates earn and I did it all, like 99% of plod, because I care. If this bloke has done what he’s accused of, I would have taken massive pride in helping send him to prison. So I suspect I have contributed more to the poor and minority groups than Bob ever has. Fuck narrow minded, prejudiced, generalising, judgmental twats like Bob

How did you get this job?

Did you need any particular qualifications?

Did you work your way up?

Why did you stay in the job? Was it solely because you care?

I had already come to the same conclusion as Chicago Lion that this continued debate is disrespectful to Dalian and had no intention of contributing further to it but I want to answer these questions. I joined by an application process as you do. I can’t recall what qualifications I needed but I grew up on a deprived council estate, got four A levels and a good degree from one of the better universities. I refused to apply to Oxbridge because of my family’s generational and enduring belief in Socialism and equality. I quickly got onto a fast promotion scheme but stepped off it to stay working at the coal face because that’s why I joined. I stayed because I was able to help and make a difference. I left early for that über stereotypical police reason of becoming a househusband. I stayed because when my mates were talking about earning a fortune in the city, I could say I protected vulnerable people. As another poster says, saying fuck the police because of what those two did and why is like saying fuck Villa fans because amongst our number we count violent idiots and racists.

Now thought to Dalian and his family and leave it at that.

[The Edge]

Just for the record, I was a police officer for 27 years. I put plenty of rapists, murderers and child molesters in prison. I have spent hours viewing the most disgusting videos you could imagine and matching them painstakingly with e mails to prove someone was part of an international paedophile ring. I still have nightmares about that one, but I saved a girl who was too frightened to accuse her dad from a life of torture. I sent a man who had systematically raped three of his daughters over twenty years to prison, even though none of them made a complaint. I sent down two men who had burgled and terrified a string of old people.  I comforted the bereaved, I dealt with things and saw things and shared people’s suffering in ways I suspect Bob can only imagine. I never lifted a finger to a black person and hate racism with every fibre of my being. I put myself in danger, I got injured, I carry mental scars from what I have seen and done for half the money my mates earn and I did it all, like 99% of plod, because I care. If this bloke has done what he’s accused of, I would have taken massive pride in helping send him to prison. So I suspect I have contributed more to the poor and minority groups than Bob ever has. Fuck narrow minded, prejudiced, generalising, judgmental twats like Bob

How did you get this job?

Did you need any particular qualifications?

Did you work your way up?

Why did you stay in the job? Was it solely because you care?

I had already come to the same conclusion as Chicago Lion that this continued debate is disrespectful to Dalian and had no intention of contributing further to it but I want to answer these questions. I joined by an application process as you do. I can’t recall what qualifications I needed but I grew up on a deprived council estate, got four A levels and a good degree from one of the better universities. I refused to apply to Oxbridge because of my family’s generational and enduring belief in Socialism and equality. I quickly got onto a fast promotion scheme but stepped off it to stay working at the coal face because that’s why I joined. I stayed because I was able to help and make a difference. I left early for that über stereotypical police reason of becoming a househusband. I stayed because when my mates were talking about earning a fortune in the city, I could say I protected vulnerable people. As another poster says, saying fuck the police because of what those two did and why is like saying fuck Villa fans because amongst our number we count violent idiots and racists.

Now thought to Dalian and his family and leave it at that.

Well said. Please don't rise to bobs bait anymore. This is about one of our own who died in tragic circumstances.

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

What I find so sad is where they show the picture of him in the Asics home shirt. He looks so young, I remember when he signed, saw most of the games he ever played for us, the goals, THAT goal.

..and now all these years on and he's dead. RIP Dalian.

If you listen very carefully, you can hear me shouting "Pass the ball! Pass the ball! Oh for f... brilliant goal Dalian".

[AV82EC]

What I find so sad is where they show the picture of him in the Asics home shirt. He looks so young, I remember when he signed, saw most of the games he ever played for us, the goals, THAT goal.

..and now all these years on and he's dead. RIP Dalian.

If you listen very carefully, you can hear me shouting "Pass the ball! Pass the ball! Oh for f... brilliant goal Dalian".

I was there for THAT goal and you’re right most people on the Holmesdale were encouraging him to pass it to Deano. It was a beautiful moment to be part of and experience.

[WarszaVillan]

What I find so sad is where they show the picture of him in the Asics home shirt. He looks so young, I remember when he signed, saw most of the games he ever played for us, the goals, THAT goal.

..and now all these years on and he's dead. RIP Dalian.

If you listen very carefully, you can hear me shouting "Pass the ball! Pass the ball! Oh for f... brilliant goal Dalian".

I was there for THAT goal and you’re right most people on the Holmesdale were encouraging him to pass it to Deano. It was a beautiful moment to be part of and experience.

I was doing the same, Yorke (I think?) had made a run and was in acres of space. I loved that team.

[Drummond]

There are a lot of people on the margins of society who lack respect for the police and when something tragic like this happens, they become emotional and use hyperbole. Much the same can be said of football fans in general.

There are many, many examples of the police not approaching their work in the right way, when they should be above reproach. There are also many examples of the police really stepping up to do work and protect people that most of us couldn't do. Some of our police officers are killed in the line of duty, which is abhorrent and wrong.

I'm not sure Bob's response is the one I'd agree with, but I understand why he may be one of people who feels that way. Much the same as I'd not agree with someone who says the sun shines out of police arses.

We've all been away fans, herded about and treated like shit by the police haven't we? Nottingham Forest away is one example that gets mentioned on here now and again.

We see examples from the States, where young black men are routinely beaten, or killed, and protests start as a result. because, yes, there are many in the police force who don't act responsibly.

So sometimes, yeah, fuck the police. But no, not all the time, not even a majority of the time, in fact probably a very small minority of the time.

It would be helpful if Bob could contextualise his point. Otherwise perhaps he should shut up.

[Mortimer's Bear]

Please excuse my ignorance but what else needs to be said really other than "Rest in Peace Dalian, and thanks for the memories".