Post-match thread - Newcastle v Aston Villa

[pauliewalnuts]

I think you will find that the inclusion of Ireland was a "sweetener" for the fans as if he had kept back the whole £26m from the Milner deal he would have had the fans on his back

Why will I find that? And where?

OK Paulie why have we not heard off Randy/The General for almost 2 weeks since MON left

We have heard from the General. Check his thread.

Now, you tell me, in what way is it Lerner's fault for selling James Milner?

As for hearing from Lerner, you might want to look at his comments earlier in the week about the Man City / Milner situation.

I'd have thought that someone who had invested that much money in the club, who had done so much to build up our trust in us over four years might have a bit more credit in the goodwill bank - accusing him of going out and selling players like he's some kind of profiteering, self interested shyster suggests otherwise.

[tauntonvilla]

NRC has to come in alongside Petrov at the expense of either Downing or Albrighton. Petrov can't do all the donkeywork by himself.

The thing is, we've known that for a long time now. He's exposed even more now with Milner gone.

Absolutley. For me it would be Downing as he offers little defensive cover and it's no surprise our full backs look poor. Add to that he rarely makes a tackle, not that Albrighton was much better today, both were passengers in a toothless midfield.

I'm beginning to worry about Downing. I see nothing that warrants the kind of money that we paid for him. I thought he was quite good at Boro', so what's happened?

Nothing, he's always been Sh1T !!

[Shrek]

NRC has to come in alongside Petrov at the expense of either Downing or Albrighton. Petrov can't do all the donkeywork by himself.

The thing is, we've known that for a long time now. He's exposed even more now with Milner gone.

Absolutley. For me it would be Downing as he offers little defensive cover and it's no surprise our full backs look poor. Add to that he rarely makes a tackle, not that Albrighton was much better today, both were passengers in a toothless midfield.

Problem is Downing is more composed on the ball and can keep possession, whereas Albrighton is useless against a decent fullback (just as MON basically said after the befica game).

I'd start with Downing, but for me NRC would be first name on the team sheet. He is our only player who can break up play!

[andyh]

NRC has to come in alongside Petrov at the expense of either Downing or Albrighton. Petrov can't do all the donkeywork by himself.

The thing is, we've known that for a long time now. He's exposed even more now with Milner gone.

Absolutley. For me it would be Downing as he offers little defensive cover and it's no surprise our full backs look poor. Add to that he rarely makes a tackle, not that Albrighton was much better today, both were passengers in a toothless midfield.

I'm beginning to worry about Downing. I see nothing that warrants the kind of money that we paid for him. I thought he was quite good at Boro', so what's happened?

Well, were told that he was shit last year because he did not have a pre-season and that he was recovering from an horrific injury.
Many said that we will see a big improvement this season. He still looks like a lightweight wuss to me.

[bob]

Just got back from the game. I am trying to persuade myself that everything Newcastle tried came off and everything we tried turned to ashes but I know it is worse than that. Had we played until midnight we would not have scored.

The scary thing is that Newcastle are a very poor side. The only difference between them and us was that they had a centre-forward worthy of the name. Had Carroll been in a Villa shirt we probably would have won.

Big Brad: 4. I was surprised by the first goal. Somebody just behind me said that it went through his hands. After that I was surprised when he got his hands to anything.

Young L: 5 Averagely awful.

Dunne: 5 Ditto.

Clark: 6 Tried.

Warnock: 4 Bypassed too easily.

Albrighton: 7 Seemed to be a little overawed and didn't attack the fullback much. Shouldn't have been taken off.

Petrov: 7 Crocked early on (?). But some of his through ball were excellent.

Ireland: 6 Looked a bit lost.

Downing;: 4 Seemed to be playing deeper and inside.

Young A: 4 Someone should explain the offside law to him.

Carew: 2 Didn't seem bothered.

Heskey: 3 His confidence must be shot and it shows.

Reo-Coker: 4 Twice got caught in possession. Doesn't anyone speak to him?

Beye: 4 Did a header.

I only watched the game online, but I can't agree with some of those ratings.

Albrighton was completely out of his depth today, and I think Ashley (who's goal was miles onside, btw) was one of our best players, but no decisions went his way.

[bob]

I think Downings one of the worst excuses for a football player I have ever seen in a Villa shirt. The way he shirks out of challenges disgusts me.

[spangley1812]

I think you will find that the inclusion of Ireland was a "sweetener" for the fans as if he had kept back the whole £26m from the Milner deal he would have had the fans on his back

Why will I find that? And where?

OK Paulie why have we not heard off Randy/The General for almost 2 weeks since MON left

We have heard from the General. Check his thread.

Now, you tell me, in what way is it Lerner's fault for selling James Milner?

Not that im being pedantic but I said " I think" that....... so obviously you will not find that written down

Just checked the General's thread, last post was a week ago (i think) and he said that the board would not be rushed into making a decision, well they are certainly not rushing are the considering they havnt drawn up a shortlist, interviewed anyone

As for Milner yes I think Randy did sell him as it was the quickest way to try and balance the books as non of the fringe players had been sold

[Ads]

I’ve seen some fucking shit over the years, but that was the fucking biggest by far. I never walk out early, but I left after the 4th went in and to be honest, I don’t think I’m going to bother going back again. Fuck it, its a waste of fucking money and effort.

Why the fuck should a gang of millionaires embarrass me and make me feel ashamed? Just fuck off Villa you ******, fuck off.

[Legion]

What a come-down after I was expecting a routine 0-2 away win.

[J]

NRC has to come in alongside Petrov at the expense of either Downing or Albrighton. Petrov can't do all the donkeywork by himself.

The thing is, we've known that for a long time now. He's exposed even more now with Milner gone.

Absolutley. For me it would be Downing as he offers little defensive cover and it's no surprise our full backs look poor. Add to that he rarely makes a tackle, not that Albrighton was much better today, both were passengers in a toothless midfield.

Problem is Downing is more composed on the ball and can keep possession, whereas Albrighton is useless against a decent fullback (just as MON basically said after the befica game).

I'd start with Downing, but for me NRC would be first name on the team sheet. He is our only player who can break up play!

I'd agree Gibbo. NRC has to play: not only is he our only midfielder who can break up play, he adds a bit of vigour to an otherwise pedestrian midfield. I'd have him and Stan behind Ireland in a 4-5-1 with Gabby up top when he's fit.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

What a come-down after I was expecting a routine 0-2 away win.

It would've been had Carew scored the penalty.

[Shrek]

Just got back from the game. I am trying to persuade myself that everything Newcastle tried came off and everything we tried turned to ashes but I know it is worse than that. Had we played until midnight we would not have scored.

The scary thing is that Newcastle are a very poor side. The only difference between them and us was that they had a centre-forward worthy of the name. Had Carroll been in a Villa shirt we probably would have won.

Big Brad: 4. I was surprised by the first goal. Somebody just behind me said that it went through his hands. After that I was surprised when he got his hands to anything.

Young L: 5 Averagely awful.

Dunne: 5 Ditto.

Clark: 6 Tried.

Warnock: 4 Bypassed too easily.

Albrighton: 7 Seemed to be a little overawed and didn't attack the fullback much. Shouldn't have been taken off.

Petrov: 7 Crocked early on (?). But some of his through ball were excellent.

Ireland: 6 Looked a bit lost.

Downing;: 4 Seemed to be playing deeper and inside.

Young A: 4 Someone should explain the offside law to him.

Carew: 2 Didn't seem bothered.

Heskey: 3 His confidence must be shot and it shows.

Reo-Coker: 4 Twice got caught in possession. Doesn't anyone speak to him?

Beye: 4 Did a header.

I only watched the game online, but I can't agree with some of those ratings.

Albrighton was completely out of his depth today, and I think Ashley (who's goal was miles onside, btw) was one of our best players, but no decisions went his way.

Agreed Ash was our best player, we needed someone who could break up play, same old same old, NRC on bench when should be on pitch and bringing that donkey on is a complete joke!

We need our own Harry Redknap, someone who has abit of common sence and can see things as they happen.

[SteveN]

 'kin hell. That's all.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

NRC has to come in alongside Petrov at the expense of either Downing or Albrighton. Petrov can't do all the donkeywork by himself.

The thing is, we've known that for a long time now. He's exposed even more now with Milner gone.

Absolutley. For me it would be Downing as he offers little defensive cover and it's no surprise our full backs look poor. Add to that he rarely makes a tackle, not that Albrighton was much better today, both were passengers in a toothless midfield.

Problem is Downing is more composed on the ball and can keep possession, whereas Albrighton is useless against a decent fullback (just as MON basically said after the befica game).

I'd start with Downing, but for me NRC would be first name on the team sheet. He is our only player who can break up play!

I'd agree Gibbo. NRC has to play: not only is he our only midfielder who can break up play, he adds a bit of vigour to an otherwise pedestrian midfield. I'd have him and Stan behind Ireland in a 4-5-1 with Gabby up top when he's fit.

What is it with people and Petrov. He's shit. Even NRC can stand there a pass sideways and backwards if he wanted to, but he doesn't choose to do that because it gets the team nowhere. Petrov is too slow, can't tackle and always passess sideways or backwards. Get rid.

[garyfouroaks]

There isn't a single player from Newcastle's starting line up that I'd have in our team ahead of the players we have.  So to get so throughly destroyed by them was shocking.

Agreed.