Post-match thread - Newcastle v Aston Villa

[sfx412]

That Carroll is a terrible player, so for us to make him look class and hand him a hat trick really makes me angry.

If he's a terrible player and scores three what does that make Clarke and co. He's very left sided but he scores goals and scores them well.

As to what do we do now, sit back and take a breath, knee jerk reactions because of a humiliating defeat are not going to solve the long term shit, left behind by Mon, just as appointing KM is going to solve the managerial problem.

Today just shows how important it it to take time to assess the right man

[Eigentor]

Kevins tactics were truly awfull today, bringing heskey on when you need a goal is a certain way to loose the fans!

He didn't have a lot of options (to Heskey), though, did he?

[tarzansbrother]

The players lost the game but his midfield selection was a big big mistake

[mozza]

Watched match in comfort of my lounge - good job I was alone - nightmare's are made of this-

I'm shell shocked - just as last week's 3-0 win didn't suggest the title, similary losing 6-0
this week doesn't equate to relegation

6 (yes SIX) without reply - perhaps were were that bad after all

Even after Geordies scored their second I (and ESPN) reckoned we were in with a shout
but the second half was the most insipid performance from a set of Villa shirts since I said
it the last time -

I honestly don't believe KMac wants the top job - he has made some howlers today
Selection of Stephen (I don't acknowledge away fans) Ireland in starting line up after
possibly one training session with new team mates-

Whatever motivation technique he tried at half time clearly didn't work as we were
a shadow of the team from the first 45 and didn't have an effort on target in the second 45

Introduce Heskey - fair enough - but playing him on right wing !! Our previous manager did
that and it didn't work then either -

Not many managers would do an interview straight after a 6-0 defeat but please come out
with better lines than "it wasn't to be" - or believe you were naive in selecting Marc and Ciaran
as those two didn't let us down like certain other individuals I could mention -

I'm not having a go at KMac - I respect him as a coach and enjoy watching the reserves which
I trust he will continue to coach for years to come, but .......................look what happened today

The senior players will have to take a long hard look in the mirror today and ask themselves
if they put in the effort, committment, graft etc,. that is deserving of their salaries

Even after 70mins you could still hear the Villa 'away' loud and proud but on the pitch there was
a big fat zero -

Yes we did have a decision go against us (Young7 dubious handball) and the Geordies did have
the rub of the green for a couple of their goals but today's performance was un-acceptable-

My message to the players and coaching staff ?

Get down to Bodymoor Heath on Monday (no day off) and work this out of your system,
physically and mentally. If there are some home truths to be told ......tell them

The scars inflicted today will take time to heal by players and supporters alike-
we have an early opportunity to get back on track against Rapid on thursday,
a poor performance/result doesn't bear thinking about ................SORT IT !!         
   

[villajk]

On the train  on the way back.

What to say?

I'm speechless.  I just didn't see that coming until they scored their 3rd and then I knew it was going to be a high score for them.

Were they that good or were we that bad?

[Jimbo]

I've really seen everything in my life as a Villa fan, highs as well as lows, but that performance today... something's not right.

[taylorsworkrate]

The players lost the game but his midfield selection was a big big mistake

I cannot believe he didn't see the problem with playing that midfield.  He's a succesful reserve team manager, so surely has some tactical awareness?

It will be interesting to see if we can learn from our mistakes for the next couple of games.  Any decent team(whch Newcastle aren't), will tear us apart again if we set up like that.

[Risso]

There isn't a single player from Newcastle's starting line up that I'd have in our team ahead of the players we have.  So to get so throughly destroyed by them was shocking.

[garyfouroaks]

Like others, I didn't see that coming. No-one did.I can omly assume that the players were in cruise mode thinking that it was them that were great players, nothing to do with MON, then suddenly their puffed up self importance didnt look too clever.

It's really difficult to draw any conclusions fromm this result.

[manic-road]

That was just shocking, the worst bit about the match for me was that we were second to every challenge and it looked like we had just given up.

[tarzansbrother]

Risso your kidding yourself. They had a proper striker in their team, something we aint got.

[taylorsworkrate]

Risso your kidding yourself. They had a proper striker in their team, something we aint got.

I think i could have got a hattrick up against Dunne and Clark today.

[PhilGibson]

When you get beat so comprehensively by for all normal measures are a very average team then something is not right? What is it that is wrong, lack of direction and leadership within the club?

[The Man With A Stick]

I'm just glad I turned it off at 2-0.

They were always going to be up for this and picking that team was naive.  No fight in the middle at all, from what I saw.  I said on Friday that Albrighton should have been rested, with NRC playing alongside Petrov and Ireland coming in alongside Downing and Young.  We might not have won with that team but we wouldn't have got spanked for six.

For fuck's sake Villa, why do you do this to me?

[pauliewalnuts]

Every time I find myself thinking "we just lost 6-0 to Newcastle ... Newcastle" ... a wave of nausea comes over me