Post-match thread - Newcastle v Aston Villa

[PaulWinch again]

Brad is starting to concern me now, should have done better with Barton's goal. He also shouldn't have parried it straight back to Nolan and he didn't command the area at all.

[Ger Regan]

The most listless display I've seen from Villa in a long long time. It's not often in the last while that I could say that they didn't look like they had the stomach for the fight. Very very poor.

[Lee]

Brad is starting to concern me now, should have done better with Barton's goal. He also shouldn't have parried it straight back to Nolan and he didn't command the area at all.

He always has for me. I have to say that he came with a great rep, but to be honest, apart from the odd occasion, I've seen nothing that backs it up.

[5ft811st2 Durham]

MON Signed a pile of shite that nobody else wants. In order to sign more we need to be rid of this dross.

MON “Randy, I need more cash, mi squad aint good enough, and it aint big enough”

Randy “you’ve had a sub’s bench full of cack that you signed and haven’t used, and nobody else wants to buy” “get stuffed”

MON “well if that’s your attitude you one eyed yank, I’m off”

Randy “Bye “

Today was 1 game, move on !

Sure and he may have said I've got you sixth 3 seasons running and won at Old Trafford Anfield and The emirates,so I've earned your continued support.

[Lee]

I blame Randy Lerner as he sold James Milner and decided he wanted Ireland to replace him

Milner wanted to go. Lerner did everything he could to keep him.

You know that for a fact do you ?? did he offer him £100,000.00 a week, did he offer him the captaincy

Yes, maybe offering him the captaincy would have swung it.

Didn't Milner make it clear at the PFA Awards that he would be off. It's been known for so long, and if Villa had not put out their stall and City not played games, it would have been wrapped up prior to the World Cup.

[pauliewalnuts]

I blame Randy Lerner as he sold James Milner and decided he wanted Ireland to replace him

Milner wanted to go. Lerner did everything he could to keep him.

You know that for a fact do you ?? did he offer him £100,000.00 a week, did he offer him the captaincy

Yes, maybe offering him the captaincy would have swung it.

Didn't Milner make it clear at the PFA Awards that he would be off. It's been known for so long, and if Villa had not put out their stall and City not played games, it would have been wrapped up prior to the World Cup.

Of course it was clear.

I was being sarcastic about the captaincy. Randy didn't "sell" Milner, he didn't go out and tout him around.Milner told the club he wanted  out, and off he went.

Just like Adebayor and Toure went there from Arsenal. Just like Balotelli went there from Inter, and just like Tevez went there from Manchester United. Yet, somehow, we're supposed to buck that trend of inevitability, and the fact we didn't is justificable cause to lay into the chairman.

We got a good deal for him. We also - something which the dimwits who go on about our sell to buy / can't have any more money policy overlook - got a player as part of the deal, which is hardly evidence of a chairman who is all about getting as much money in as he can.

It has been two weeks of weirdness since O'Neill walked out, but the most depressing bit has been so many people willing to turn against someone who has invested 180 million pounds in us in 4 years. Someone last week referred to him - in all seriousness - as "Young Doug", for fucks sake.

It beggars belief.

[remy]

I think the players who stepped onto the field and represented Aston Villa Football Club today were not fit to wear the shirt.

At the very least the club should refund the ticket cost (and travel) for the entire away contingent.

K Macdonald - Oh dear. Sir you have been found wanting at Premier league management. Against the Hammers the onus was on us at home to attack and we did with them offering little in return. An away game in the Premier league is a whole NEW BALL game. Especially against a vengeful side with a cauldron ground first home game of the season. The side you picked had calamity written all over it with a half fit Ireland and half crocked Petrov being overun in the middle as we have seen so many times under O'Neil.

You waited too, too long to make any sort of change which should have been done before the 3rd goal went in. As usual, half of Birmingham is screaming for some sort of tactical change as its CLEARLY not working the gameplan you set off with instead you send out the same twats in the same formation as the slapstick first half. What sort of transformation did you expect - a Liverpoolesqe Euro Final mode? Instead true to stubborn form - zilch.

Ive been watching football for 30 years and Im no Manager but even my 5 year old daughter is asking why we had huge gaps in midfield - are you watching a different game?

Playing Ireland was a gamble but a mistake that should have been rectified after 20 minutes. Albrighton was getting no change down his side - why didnt you put him out his misery? Carew had another lazy game, why wasnt HE hauled off sooner???!!

To lose 6-0 to a just newly promoted team is beyond the pale for a club of our stature. DISGRACE !!!!

Good luck against Rapid Vienna, I shall not be attending as my money will no longer pay for the players and management to take the piss out of my club.

 

[Lee]

Nail on the head PW ... again

[tauntonvilla]

It beggars belief.
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Agreed

[Toronto Villa]

I blame Randy Lerner as he sold James Milner and decided he wanted Ireland to replace him

Milner wanted to go. Lerner did everything he could to keep him.

You know that for a fact do you ?? did he offer him £100,000.00 a week, did he offer him the captaincy

Yes, maybe offering him the captaincy would have swung it.

Didn't Milner make it clear at the PFA Awards that he would be off. It's been known for so long, and if Villa had not put out their stall and City not played games, it would have been wrapped up prior to the World Cup.

Of course it was clear.

I was being sarcastic about the captaincy. Randy didn't "sell" Milner, he didn't go out and tout him around.Milner told the club he wanted  out, and off he went.

Just like Adebayor and Toure went there from Arsenal. Just like Balotelli went there from Inter, and just like Tevez went there from Manchester United. Yet, somehow, we're supposed to buck that trend of inevitability, and the fact we didn't is justificable cause to lay into the chairman.

We got a good deal for him. We also - something which the dimwits who go on about our sell to buy / can't have any more money policy overlook - got a player as part of the deal, which is hardly evidence of a chairman who is all about getting as much money in as he can.

It has been two weeks of weirdness since O'Neill walked out, but the most depressing bit has been so many people willing to turn against someone who has invested 180 million pounds in us in 4 years. Someone last week referred to him - in all seriousness - as "Young Doug", for fucks sake.

It beggars belief.

clappy thing. well said paulie

[tarzansbrother]

I'm still bewildered by Carews pen miss. It was truly shocking. By god did the team then put icing on the cake with that shambles.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

NRC has to come in alongside Petrov at the expense of either Downing or Albrighton. Petrov can't do all the donkeywork by himself.

The thing is, we've known that for a long time now. He's exposed even more now with Milner gone.

Absolutley. For me it would be Downing as he offers little defensive cover and it's no surprise our full backs look poor. Add to that he rarely makes a tackle, not that Albrighton was much better today, both were passengers in a toothless midfield.

[spangley1812]

I blame Randy Lerner as he sold James Milner and decided he wanted Ireland to replace him

Milner wanted to go. Lerner did everything he could to keep him.

You know that for a fact do you ?? did he offer him £100,000.00 a week, did he offer him the captaincy

Yes, maybe offering him the captaincy would have swung it.

Didn't Milner make it clear at the PFA Awards that he would be off. It's been known for so long, and if Villa had not put out their stall and City not played games, it would have been wrapped up prior to the World Cup.

Of course it was clear.

I was being sarcastic about the captaincy. Randy didn't "sell" Milner, he didn't go out and tout him around.Milner told the club he wanted  out, and off he went.

Just like Adebayor and Toure went there from Arsenal. Just like Balotelli went there from Inter, and just like Tevez went there from Manchester United. Yet, somehow, we're supposed to buck that trend of inevitability, and the fact we didn't is justificable cause to lay into the chairman.

We got a good deal for him. We also - something which the dimwits who go on about our sell to buy / can't have any more money policy overlook - got a player as part of the deal, which is hardly evidence of a chairman who is all about getting as much money in as he can.

It has been two weeks of weirdness since O'Neill walked out, but the most depressing bit has been so many people willing to turn against someone who has invested 180 million pounds in us in 4 years. Someone last week referred to him - in all seriousness - as "Young Doug", for fucks sake.

It beggars belief.

I think you will find that the inclusion of Ireland was a "sweetener" for the fans as if he had kept back the whole £26m from the Milner deal he would have had the fans on his back

OK Paulie why have we not heard off Randy/The General for almost 2 weeks since MON left

[Lee]

NRC has to come in alongside Petrov at the expense of either Downing or Albrighton. Petrov can't do all the donkeywork by himself.

The thing is, we've known that for a long time now. He's exposed even more now with Milner gone.

Absolutley. For me it would be Downing as he offers little defensive cover and it's no surprise our full backs look poor. Add to that he rarely makes a tackle, not that Albrighton was much better today, both were passengers in a toothless midfield.

I'm beginning to worry about Downing. I see nothing that warrants the kind of money that we paid for him. I thought he was quite good at Boro', so what's happened?

[Lee]

I blame Randy Lerner as he sold James Milner and decided he wanted Ireland to replace him

Milner wanted to go. Lerner did everything he could to keep him.

You know that for a fact do you ?? did he offer him £100,000.00 a week, did he offer him the captaincy

Yes, maybe offering him the captaincy would have swung it.

Didn't Milner make it clear at the PFA Awards that he would be off. It's been known for so long, and if Villa had not put out their stall and City not played games, it would have been wrapped up prior to the World Cup.

Of course it was clear.

I was being sarcastic about the captaincy. Randy didn't "sell" Milner, he didn't go out and tout him around.Milner told the club he wanted  out, and off he went.

Just like Adebayor and Toure went there from Arsenal. Just like Balotelli went there from Inter, and just like Tevez went there from Manchester United. Yet, somehow, we're supposed to buck that trend of inevitability, and the fact we didn't is justificable cause to lay into the chairman.

We got a good deal for him. We also - something which the dimwits who go on about our sell to buy / can't have any more money policy overlook - got a player as part of the deal, which is hardly evidence of a chairman who is all about getting as much money in as he can.

It has been two weeks of weirdness since O'Neill walked out, but the most depressing bit has been so many people willing to turn against someone who has invested 180 million pounds in us in 4 years. Someone last week referred to him - in all seriousness - as "Young Doug", for fucks sake.

It beggars belief.

I think you will find that the inclusion of Ireland was a "sweetener" for the fans as if he had kept back the whole £26m from the Milner deal he would have had the fans on his back

OK Paulie why have we not heard off Randy/The General for almost 2 weeks since MON left

We have.. do you read this thread?