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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on December 07, 2024, 04:56:07 PM
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We won. That’s all really
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We won. Next.
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Up to 5th will take that
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Clean sheet. Poor game, nice finish from Duran.
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Well, at least we're creating chances.
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Conditions terrible much changed side. I’ll take it even take last on MOTD.
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Wasteful up top but clean sheet and 3 points. Sometimes you have to win ugly and that was today.
Ill take it!!
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Rogers motm again for me
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Made a bloody meal of that. But won the game.
We really need to work on our composure. But as awkward as it felt they produced nothing, so another pretty solid defensive display.
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Three points, clean sheet and didn’t allow a shot on goal. Honestly, this could’ve been a 6-0 win. It was open and end to end, but we certainly deserved to win.
Ollie will be kicking himself after watching the film.
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Not a great game, difficult conditions, we got the win and a clean sheet. Next.
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We won in reverse gear, so thankful for that. 4/10 for everyone though. I was hoping Barkley would get us passing it and in control but no such luck. And my Word, Watkins. That was a really poor showing.
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A top class right winger is definitely priority for me. We offer no threat down that side currently.
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The lesser spotted clean sheet! Rogers or Kamara motm.
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Really important win. Up to 25 points.
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Created enough scoring positions to win 5 games. The finishing really isn’t good enough.
We won, and that’s the important thing.
Hope the journey home is safe and stress free to those of you at the game.
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He does so many good things, but he needs to cut out the flicks and push passes on the outside of his foot.
Attacks break down with him so often.
We should have won at a canter. How many chances do we need?
Rogers motm again for me
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Not pretty but when do we ever moan about 3 points?? XD Tidy finish from Duran. Kamara starting to look like a player again. Watkins was a headless chicken, so indecisive, he could have scored/assissted 3 goals there. Wasteful.
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For me we battered them 1-0, 4 or 5 wouldn't have flattered us and they never looked like scoring. It was frustrating and the conditions made it messy but I think there were more positives than negatives to that one.
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3 points move on, sweep it under the carpet
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A win, and a clean sheet, so we should celebrate, but that REALLY should have been 3 or 4 nil, given the chances we created in the second half. Ollie could have had a hat-trick inside half an hour. He should have had at LEAST one this afternoon, and he won't have done himself any favours with Duran breathing down his neck and scoring the winner.
Still, it's nice to get back-to-back wins after a dodgy little run of results, and we go into next weekend knowing a win at Forest will likely put us back into the top 4.
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Happy with the win. The defence was excellent. Ollie should have had a hatrick. Just put your laces through it ffs.
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Clean sheet and it should have been a very comfortable victory.
Some of our decisions in front of goal are comical. Last season we’d of had a hatful. I suppose thats the main difference between this season and last.
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Happy with the three points, poor finishing led to a twitchy end.
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Not a classic but 3 points so who cares.
I am aware it’s a grumpy thing to mention but I really can’t stand those “can I have your shirt?” signs - they focussed on one kid who had different players on either side to double his chances.
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Ugly win, but 3 points nonetheless.
Watkins wasteful - his decision-making was terrible.
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Watkins isn’t a worry for me, he’ll still assist and score plenty. Philogene on the other hand, he’s just not good enough to be our only alternative wide right.
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Rogers motm again for me
Seriously? Idiotic free kick given away at end could have been costly. Gave away ball far too much I thought. Nice pass at one stage to put Watkins through.
Only saw second half, granted poor conditions but we were fortunate Southampton were so poor. Watkins had the cameo from hell when he came on, butchered countless openings. Only Kamara, McGinn, Carlos (yes!) and Digne when he came in impressed. We have a real problem in midfield that neither Tielemans or Barkley can turn and run back. Better teams will exploit that.
A dirty win and a clean sheet. On to RBL.
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Duran starts the next game, Digne was great when he came on, Kamara and Rogers played well again. Watkins, Tielimans and Bailey were very poor. Defence has to be Digne, Torres/Mings, Konsa and Cash for Tuesday
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Not a classic but 3 points so who cares.
I am aware it’s a grumpy thing to mention but I really can’t stand those “can I have your shirt?” signs - they focussed on one kid who had different players on either side to double his chances.
It’s the scrote parents who have their kids doing this to then scalp the shirt on eBay. I fucking hate entitled beggars and I’d ban this shit from the ground.
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Well, at least we're creating chances.
Haha! Good point well made.
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A win is always good to take. Wish it had been easier though.
UTV
Good WE all.
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Best striker we got scored second best striker missed aplenty
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Rogers motm again for me
Seriously? Idiotic free kick given away at end could have been costly. Gave away ball far too much I thought. Nice pass at one stage to put Watkins through.
Only saw second half, granted poor conditions but we were fortunate Southampton were so poor. Watkins had the cameo from hell when he came on, butchered countless openings. Only Kamara, McGinn, Carlos (yes!) and Digne when he came in impressed. We have a real problem in midfield that neither Tielemans or Barkley can turn and run back. Better teams will exploit that.
A dirty win and a clean sheet. On to RBL.
Maybe the first half would have given a better overall perspective
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Clean sheet and it should have been a very comfortable victory.
Some of our decisions in front of goal are comical. Last season we’d of had a hatful. I suppose thats the main difference between this season and last.
For all the talk of our defence during the bad run, the main problem has been shite decisions when in great positions. If Villa had Salah we’d be challenging for the league.
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Very much a win ugly game and forget about it.
It was flat and horrible conditions so we just had to get the job done and we're now back in 5th which is very pleasing after the poor last six weeks.
Maybe it's a false position but none of the other established teams below us look much good so I'd rather keep on getting wins and expanding the points difference.
It was a strange game in that we had loads of counters, loads of opportunities around the goal but I can't remember Lumley actually making a save. He'd have probably chucked one in given how bad he was dealing with the corners.
So a little different to Bournemouth when Travers had a world class game for them and thankfully we didn't concede from the late free kick.
We move on to hopefully calmer positions in Leipzig and Nottingham.
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One thing about the opposition, that Tyler Dibling is going to be an absolute star. Only 18, and already looking more than comfortable at this level. With better players around him, he'd have caused us real problems today. Also looks pretty quick, which you don't always see with players with his playing style.
I imagine he'll be poached in the summer when they go down, and I hope we're one of the clubs in for him (and we're not pipped by someone like bloody Spurs). Imagine if he'd been down our right side today, we'd have battered them.
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I thought we defended brilliantly. For them, when we got in their box :D
Some of the opportunities we managed to spurn, that takes skill.
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One thing about the opposition, that Tyler Dibling is going to be an absolute star. Only 18, and already looking more than comfortable at this level. With better players around him, he'd have caused us real problems today. Also looks pretty quick, which you don't always see with players with his playing style.
I imagine he'll be poached in the summer when they go down, and I hope we're one of the clubs in for him (and we're not pipped by someone like bloody Spurs). Imagine if he'd been down our right side today, we'd have battered them.
He reminds me of you know who
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One thing about the opposition, that Tyler Dibling is going to be an absolute star. Only 18, and already looking more than comfortable at this level. With better players around him, he'd have caused us real problems today. Also looks pretty quick, which you don't always see with players with his playing style.
I imagine he'll be poached in the summer when they go down, and I hope we're one of the clubs in for him (and we're not pipped by someone like bloody Spurs). Imagine if he'd been down our right side today, we'd have battered them.
He certainly does look a potentially great player. MOTM for them for sure.
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Duran starts the next game, Digne was great when he came on, Kamara and Rogers played well again. Watkins, Tielimans and Bailey were very poor. Defence has to be Digne, Torres/Mings, Konsa and Cash for Tuesday
You don’t like the bloke who always plays in our rare clean sheets?
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Sometimes you have to grind out a result.
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Rogers motm again for me
Seriously? Idiotic free kick given away at end could have been costly. Gave away ball far too much I thought. Nice pass at one stage to put Watkins through.
Only saw second half, granted poor conditions but we were fortunate Southampton were so poor. Watkins had the cameo from hell when he came on, butchered countless openings. Only Kamara, McGinn, Carlos (yes!) and Digne when he came in impressed. We have a real problem in midfield that neither Tielemans or Barkley can turn and run back. Better teams will exploit that.
A dirty win and a clean sheet. On to RBL.
You're concentrating on the few things that didn't work and ignoring all the things that did. Pretty much everything good we did came through him.
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Watkins isn’t a worry for me, he’ll still assist and score plenty. Philogene on the other hand, he’s just not good enough to be our only alternative wide right.
He made some mess of that chance at end. Poor guy his confidence must be on the floor.
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One thing about the opposition, that Tyler Dibling is going to be an absolute star. Only 18, and already looking more than comfortable at this level. With better players around him, he'd have caused us real problems today. Also looks pretty quick, which you don't always see with players with his playing style.
I imagine he'll be poached in the summer when they go down, and I hope we're one of the clubs in for him (and we're not pipped by someone like bloody Spurs). Imagine if he'd been down our right side today, we'd have battered them.
He reminds me of you know who
But with pace. A very dangerous combination.
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One thing about the opposition, that Tyler Dibling is going to be an absolute star. Only 18, and already looking more than comfortable at this level. With better players around him, he'd have caused us real problems today. Also looks pretty quick, which you don't always see with players with his playing style.
Reminds me of Chris Waddle, style of play and gait.
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One thing about the opposition, that Tyler Dibling is going to be an absolute star. Only 18, and already looking more than comfortable at this level. With better players around him, he'd have caused us real problems today. Also looks pretty quick, which you don't always see with players with his playing style.
Reminds me of Chris Waddle, style of play and gait.
Good shout that
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Clean sheet and it should have been a very comfortable victory.
Some of our decisions in front of goal are comical. Last season we’d of had a hatful. I suppose thats the main difference between this season and last.
For all the talk of our defence during the bad run, the main problem has been shite decisions when in great positions. If Villa had Salah we’d be challenging for the league.
Agree. Konsa, Carlos and Torres excellent today. Watkins and Bailey - for some time now it seems that they cant make it - on a regular basis anyway.
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That was brutal. But who minds I guess. We've played better, we'll play better. Onto the CL.
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One thing about the opposition, that Tyler Dibling is going to be an absolute star. Only 18, and already looking more than comfortable at this level. With better players around him, he'd have caused us real problems today. Also looks pretty quick, which you don't always see with players with his playing style.
Reminds me of Chris Waddle, style of play and gait.
Hopefully minus the Diamond Lights :)
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Clean sheet and it should have been a very comfortable victory.
Some of our decisions in front of goal are comical. Last season we’d of had a hatful. I suppose thats the main difference between this season and last.
For all the talk of our defence during the bad run, the main problem has been shite decisions when in great positions. If Villa had Salah we’d be challenging for the league.
Agree. Konsa, Carlos and Torres excellent today.
Ooh, someone who knows what they’re looking at. We should have him stuffed.
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Is there a realistic (PRS) chance that we're in for Dibling?
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Is there a realistic (PRS) chance that we're in for Dibling?
It would be nice but it's The Sun. Take it with a pinch of salt.
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Duran was rewarded for his endeavour.
Ollie was a mess, but not worried about him really - as someone pointed out earlier, it’s 7 in 15 for him.
The lack of goals elsewhere is a concern, and could have cost us today, as it did versus Palace and Bournemouth.
Bit like on Wednesday, there was so little to do at the back that it’s hard to draw any conclusions from this game. But all 7 players we’ve used across the back these past 2 games have finished on the winning side, and that will boost everyone’s confidence.
We don’t seem able to really get things under control enough in central midfield, and then to click with the forwards. Tielemans was flat again, Barkley imprecise, McGinn too dependent on his arse tricks. And we lack penetration up the right. Rogers did a decent impression of Ramsey up the left, but I’d rather see him in the centre personally.
But we won, put ourselves back in the position to which we have become accustomed, pending jam tomorrow from Unai.
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Clean sheet and it should have been a very comfortable victory.
Some of our decisions in front of goal are comical. Last season we’d of had a hatful. I suppose thats the main difference between this season and last.
For all the talk of our defence during the bad run, the main problem has been shite decisions when in great positions. If Villa had Salah we’d be challenging for the league.
Most definitely, I know it’s not ideal to have to rely on scoring for fun every match, but we’ve not been nowhere near as clinical as last season and that puts far more pressure to defend well. It’s often not even the finishing but it’s the decisions we’re making.
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Poor but got the result.
Watkins decision making leaves a lot to be desired and had the touch of a rapist today.
McGinn MOM.
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Watkins isn’t a worry for me, he’ll still assist and score plenty. Philogene on the other hand, he’s just not good enough to be our only alternative wide right.
Yep, Diaby was quality and a massive upgrade on Philogene. Qualifying for Champions League and then having to replace him with a 2nd division player stinks. These rules are a silly.
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Clean sheet and it should have been a very comfortable victory.
Some of our decisions in front of goal are comical. Last season we’d of had a hatful. I suppose thats the main difference between this season and last.
For all the talk of our defence during the bad run, the main problem has been shite decisions when in great positions. If Villa had Salah we’d be challenging for the league.
Agree. Konsa, Carlos and Torres excellent today.
Ooh, someone who knows what they’re looking at. We should have him stuffed.
Jesus Christ
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It was a really weird game, so I’m guessing the conditions must have had a lot to do with it. Rogers and Kamara ace, the back 5 competent. Ollie was just strange.
Southampton are awful. Joe-anna Lumley was terrible, but every time he made a blunder it fell okay for Saints. Can’t see how they can stay up.
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One thing about the opposition, that Tyler Dibling is going to be an absolute star. Only 18, and already looking more than comfortable at this level. With better players around him, he'd have caused us real problems today. Also looks pretty quick, which you don't always see with players with his playing style.
I imagine he'll be poached in the summer when they go down, and I hope we're one of the clubs in for him (and we're not pipped by someone like bloody Spurs). Imagine if he'd been down our right side today, we'd have battered them.
He reminds me of you know who
But with pace. A very dangerous combination.
100% has the mark of the cockerel. It’s exactly the kind of player they sign and we don’t.
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Clean sheet and it should have been a very comfortable victory.
Some of our decisions in front of goal are comical. Last season we’d of had a hatful. I suppose thats the main difference between this season and last.
For all the talk of our defence during the bad run, the main problem has been shite decisions when in great positions. If Villa had Salah we’d be challenging for the league.
Agree. Konsa, Carlos and Torres excellent today.
Ooh, someone who knows what they’re looking at. We should have him stuffed.
Jesus Christ
That’s my exclamation when I read dozens of comments about how shit he is by people who can’t remember previous Villa games and score lines.
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I like Torres and all (Pau Posse 4 Lyf), but conceding 1.7 a game for a year doesn't exactly suggest a defence which isn't really 'the main problem'.
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That’s my exclamation when I read dozens of comments about how shit he is by people who can’t remember previous Villa games and score lines.
Mate, honestly take it up with Emery, who has picked Cash for every single big game in the Premier League this year when he's been available.
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One thing about the opposition, that Tyler Dibling is going to be an absolute star. Only 18, and already looking more than comfortable at this level. With better players around him, he'd have caused us real problems today. Also looks pretty quick, which you don't always see with players with his playing style.
I imagine he'll be poached in the summer when they go down, and I hope we're one of the clubs in for him (and we're not pipped by someone like bloody Spurs). Imagine if he'd been down our right side today, we'd have battered them.
He reminds me of you know who
But with pace. A very dangerous combination.
100% has the mark of the cockerel. It’s exactly the kind of player they sign and we don’t.
And it's going well for them.
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I like Torres and all (Pau Posse 4 Lyf), but conceding 1.7 a game for a year doesn't exactly suggest a defence which isn't really 'the main problem'.
The defence is not great by any means,, but today’s line up is more parsimonious than the one most people seem to prefer.
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Good following from Southampton in that weather & distance to watch then, don’t think Emi had a meaningful save to make.
Awful conditions so I’m just happy with the 3 points and to thaw out!
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I like Torres and all (Pau Posse 4 Lyf), but conceding 1.7 a game for a year doesn't exactly suggest a defence which isn't really 'the main problem'.
The defence is not great by any means,, but today’s line up is more parsimonious than the one most people Emery seems to prefer.
FTFY
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https://www.skysports.com/football/aston-villa-vs-southampton/505947
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That’s my exclamation when I read dozens of comments about how shit he is by people who can’t remember previous Villa games and score lines.
Mate, honestly take it up with Emery, who has picked Cash for every single big game in the Premier League this year when he's been available.
Ok. Let’s close all the threads if we’re just supposed to repost what the manager thinks.
Before the game, some dope called Carlos and Konsa the axis of chaos or something, and belittled my opinion that it’s statistically proven to be our best defence (without Mings).
In future if you could pm when I’m allowed to have a go back that would be good.
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We did ok, should’ve had a hat full but win the game. McGinn was a true leader out there today, what we’d do without him I don’t know.
One minus was the moaning and whining from some towards Philogene. He didn’t play well but is there really any point in getting on a young lads back like that?
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In all honesty I couldn’t wait to get out of the ground today. Absolutely crap match. Just glad we have played the 2 teams with the worst away records in the division. Can’t do better than getting 6/6 points but, not great performances. Hand on heart, the way we’ve played generally this season, I’m amazed we are 5th in the league.
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In all honesty I couldn’t wait to get out of the ground today. Absolutely crap match. Just glad we have played the 2 teams with the worst away records in the division. Can’t do better than getting 6/6 points but, not great performances. Hand on heart, the way we’ve played generally this season, I’m amazed we are 5th in the league.
I felt the same, coldest I’ve been at a match for many a year. Wind was blasting straight at the Holte end. I thought both teams did well in absolutely awful conditions. Yes we should have scored more, they had only one threatening moment. Not a game to remember but we have 3 points.
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In all honesty I couldn’t wait to get out of the ground today. Absolutely crap match. Just glad we have played the 2 teams with the worst away records in the division. Can’t do better than getting 6/6 points but, not great performances. Hand on heart, the way we’ve played generally this season, I’m amazed we are 5th in the league.
Yep, that was a hard watch, particularly in the 2nd half. We've got to do some business in January as certain areas are becoming a problem. I'm a big fan of John
McGinn, but when he plays in that '10' role and when Rogers and Bailey are off the pace, we haven't got any real speed on the counter attack.
All said, we are up.to 5th now, with a big game in Europe on Tuesday.
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We did ok, should’ve had a hat full but win the game. McGinn was a true leader out there today, what we’d do without him I don’t know.
One minus was the moaning and whining from some towards Philogene. He didn’t play well but is there really any point in getting on a young lads back like that?
I feel a bit sorry for Philogene it’s not his fault
he’s been promoted above and beyond his abilities i’m afraid
And I was one who thought he’d be the surprise package of this season but he’s clearly way out of his depth, but we have no alternative to when Bailey is putting in his normal piss poor offering
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That Dibling is like a budget clone of peak Grealish. Looks like Forest went to the same factory and ordered one too .
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In all honesty I couldn’t wait to get out of the ground today. Absolutely crap match. Just glad we have played the 2 teams with the worst away records in the division. Can’t do better than getting 6/6 points but, not great performances. Hand on heart, the way we’ve played generally this season, I’m amazed we are 5th in the league.
We’re fifth because apart from Liverpool, every team has had a wobble and period of bad results. It’s a very inconsistent table from 2nd down to about 10th. I expect Liverpool to have a wobble at some point.
It’s frankly ridiculous that after going 8 games without a win, we now find ourselves 3 points off second.
If we can find a bit of consistency (even if we don’t find last season’s fluency), then we should hopefully remain in the fight for champions league all season. I think the current top four will probably be the top four in May, but I think 5th is definitely up for grabs, and we’re one of probably four teams capable of getting it.
The way Europe is going, 5th should be enough for Champions League this season.
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McGinn MOTM for me , a solid 7/10 performance where I thought he was the best of an average bunch
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That Dibling is like a budget clone of peak Grealish. Looks like Forest went to the same factory and ordered one too .
Budget? At 18 Grealish was playing in League One for Notts County. His starring FA Cup semi appearance came when he was a year older than Dibling is now, and we considered him a “kid” even then.
Jack didn’t really come into his own as a genuine star talent until we were relegated and in the Championship,
Dibling is putting in great performances week in week out in the Premier league, right now, at 18.
This may be as good as he ever gets, but if he can play like this at 18, my guess is he’ll be at a top club within a year, and a regular full international by the time he’s in his very early 20s.
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That Dibling is like a budget clone of peak Grealish. Looks like Forest went to the same factory and ordered one too .
Budget? At 18 Grealish was playing in League One for Notts County. His starring FA Cup semi appearance came when he was a year older than Dibling is now, and we considered him a “kid” even then.
Jack didn’t really come into his own as a genuine star talent until we were relegated and in the Championship,
Dibling is putting in great performances week in week out in the Premier league, right now, at 18.
This may be as good as he ever gets, but if he can play like this at 18, my guess is he’ll be at a top club within a year, and a regular full international by the time he’s in his very early 20s.
Possibly , though it doesn't always work like that . Not sure what his end product is like
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Difficult day. I thought McGinn and Rogers tried hard. The defence benefits from Kamara in midfield.
Southampton nearly broke away from one of our corners to score again. I can’t see why we aren’t tackling this.
From the North Stand Ollie seemed to get himself one on one on several occasions only to squander. Need to see highlights to see how good these chances actually were.
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McGinn MOTM for me , a solid 7/10 performance where I thought he was the best of an average bunch
You’re taking the piss, surely? He looks quality, I’d love to have him at Villa.
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Did what was necessary, stopped them doing anything. Win. 3 points. 5th.
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We did ok, should’ve had a hat full but win the game. McGinn was a true leader out there today, what we’d do without him I don’t know.
One minus was the moaning and whining from some towards Philogene. He didn’t play well but is there really any point in getting on a young lads back like that?
I feel a bit sorry for Philogene it’s not his fault
he’s been promoted above and beyond his abilities i’m afraid
And I was one who thought he’d be the surprise package of this season but he’s clearly way out of his depth, but we have no alternative to when Bailey is putting in his normal piss poor offering
I thought Bailey was much improved today, looked lively and getting back to something like his proper form. Unfortunate that he seems to have injured his hamstring again.
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A poor game played in filthy conditions.
We'll take the points then forget that it ever happened.
On to Leipzig.
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I thought youri was awful today. Really poor. His lassing was diabolical at times.
Mcginn was excellent my motm
Again felt philiogene had another bad game. Not sure how long this can go on with him as he has been given a lot of game and is offering virtually nothing.
It wasnt pretty bit certainly hard to play in those conditions. Sometimes you have win ugly and today was one of those
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We did a really good job of preventing Matthew Le Tissier getting any space to shoot from long range and that neutralised any threat from Southampton.
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I thought Maatsen looked quality today.
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I thought Maatsen looked quality today.
He was, really good. It’s great to know that’s a position we have secured for a while.
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In all honesty I couldn’t wait to get out of the ground today. Absolutely crap match. Just glad we have played the 2 teams with the worst away records in the division. Can’t do better than getting 6/6 points but, not great performances. Hand on heart, the way we’ve played generally this season, I’m amazed we are 5th in the league.
It’s frankly ridiculous that after going 8 games without a win, we now find ourselves 3 points off second.
It's almost as if losing Carabao Cup and Champions League games has no effect on our league position. :P
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Some good moments around the pitch but very wasteful decision making and execution last 15 mins.
We should have won by more - dire conditions but glad it is out of the way. 25 pts from 15 is decent return but we'll see where we are league wise after next 4 games.
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The lesser spotted clean sheet! Rogers or Kamara motm.
Yes I thought Rogers. Hope his injury at the end is not going to keep him out.
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Watkins isn’t a worry for me, he’ll still assist and score plenty. Philogene on the other hand, he’s just not good enough to be our only alternative wide right.
Yep, Diaby was quality and a massive upgrade on Philogene. Qualifying for Champions League and then having to replace him with a 2nd division player stinks. These rules are a silly.
We didn’t have to replace him with philogene though. We could have banked the £6-£7m and spent £30m plus on a player.
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Watkins isn’t a worry for me, he’ll still assist and score plenty. Philogene on the other hand, he’s just not good enough to be our only alternative wide right.
Yep, Diaby was quality and a massive upgrade on Philogene. Qualifying for Champions League and then having to replace him with a 2nd division player stinks. These rules are a silly.
We didn’t have to replace him with philogene though. We could have banked the £6-£7m and spent £30m plus on a player.
Or kept kellyman and seen what he could do.
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I thought Maatsen looked quality today.
He did well
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A win is a win.
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Watkins isn’t a worry for me, he’ll still assist and score plenty. Philogene on the other hand, he’s just not good enough to be our only alternative wide right.
Yep, Diaby was quality and a massive upgrade on Philogene. Qualifying for Champions League and then having to replace him with a 2nd division player stinks. These rules are a silly.
We didn’t have to replace him with philogene though. We could have banked the £6-£7m and spent £30m plus on a player.
Or kept kellyman and seen what he could do.
Kellyman isn’t a winger, nor an upgrade and I thought we had to raise funds by selling Diaby and Dougie.
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It's a long time since I was so cold at a football game and, to be fair, and despite the mistakes, I thought both sides did well to put on as decent a game as they did in those conditions.
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Well getting to the ground ringing wet and thoroughly cold wasn't a great start. I don't think I've ever been at a win I've enjoyed less than today.
Thought that we didn't really have to get out of third gear to win and thats a good job as some of the decision making in the final third was very poor. Defensively we were never stretched, midfield was patchy and whilst its good to see us creating, its pretty shit the amount of times we didn't even get a clear shot away from a good position.
In all, good job we weren't playing anyone decent today. And whilst UE can point to playing a few players through a poor patch of form can lead to success, it seems almost cruel to keep bringing Philogene on given his lack of pretty much any attribute a PL footballer needs. I feel for him when the cry of 'FFS' is the loudest thing heard all game when he gives the ball away for the 15th time.
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The only two pre-match threads I've ever started were Wednesday and today. 100% record and I'm claiming an assist. :)
Predicted we would win them both as well.
Thought we were really sloppy going forward but I'll give them a break because of the conditions. 6 points was require and that's what we've got.
Really tough few games coming up again now though.
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What's that now Duran has started 3 games and scored in all three.... But I was shouted down when I said Duran should start over Watkins because Aparently Watkins brings more..... As a striker the only thing I'm interested in is goals and Duran brings more so as far as I'm concerned should start more than Watkins does
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3 points. A very cold 3 points mind you. The team seemed to be in second gear for most of it. A few more goals would have warmed us all up.
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3 points. A very cold 3 points mind you. The team seemed to be in second gear for most of it. A few more goals would have warmed us all up.
You're telling me! We missed so many chances towards the end to make it 2-0! I was dreading Southampton grabbing an equaliser!
A win is a win is a win, though. Thought John McGinn was excellent today!
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Watkins isn’t a worry for me, he’ll still assist and score plenty. Philogene on the other hand, he’s just not good enough to be our only alternative wide right.
Yep, Diaby was quality and a massive upgrade on Philogene. Qualifying for Champions League and then having to replace him with a 2nd division player stinks. These rules are a silly.
We didn’t have to replace him with philogene though. We could have banked the £6-£7m and spent £30m plus on a player.
Or kept kellyman and seen what he could do.
Kellyman isn’t a winger, nor an upgrade and I thought we had to raise funds by selling Diaby and Dougie.
Dougie definitely. Diaby I think is less clear. I’ve heard reports we weren’t looking to sell be we got a good offer and it gave us wiggle room with the uefa salary caps but I’m not sure we had to sell him.
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The only two pre-match threads I've ever started were Wednesday and today. 100% record and I'm claiming an assist. :)
Predicted we would win them both as well.
Thought we were really sloppy going forward but I'll give them a break because of the conditions. 6 points was require and that's what we've got.
Really tough few games coming up again now though.
Accent Guy, you're hired
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Watkins isn’t a worry for me, he’ll still assist and score plenty. Philogene on the other hand, he’s just not good enough to be our only alternative wide right.
Yep, Diaby was quality and a massive upgrade on Philogene. Qualifying for Champions League and then having to replace him with a 2nd division player stinks. These rules are a silly.
We didn’t have to replace him with philogene though. We could have banked the £6-£7m and spent £30m plus on a player.
Or kept kellyman and seen what he could do.
Kellyman isn’t a winger, nor an upgrade and I thought we had to raise funds by selling Diaby and Dougie.
I thought kellyman was a wide player? We spent 15m on philiogene dont pay that and keep kellyman (who we sold for 20m) which means between both deals its only a difference of 5m
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Wasn't the kellyman deal intertwined in Maatsen coming across and cooking the books
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Not a classic but 3 points so who cares.
I am aware it’s a grumpy thing to mention but I really can’t stand those “can I have your shirt?” signs - they focussed on one kid who had different players on either side to double his chances.
It’s the scrote parents who have their kids doing this to then scalp the shirt on eBay. I fucking hate entitled beggars and I’d ban this shit from the ground.
I agree….why not put all the players shirts up for auction after the game….obviously all proceeds to charity….soon kill this crap off…
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Impossible to make any comment on the match without mentioning the weather. There was no point the ball was going in the direction anyone wanted it to. The fact that with that being a leveller, we were able to fight out a win is to be commended. Onwards and upwards. Hopefully to somewhere less windy.
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Decent win, iffy performance from what I saw. Anyone off to complete a fun Saturday in the bad weather by dancing to the Human League at Brum arena tonight?
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Decent win, iffy performance from what I saw. Anyone off to complete a fun Saturday in the bad weather by dancing to the Human League at Brum arena tonight?
Dare you to.
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Maatsen looks like a real talent.
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I liked us bringing on four subs at once like bosses.
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Maatsen did ok, we did look much better down that side once Digne was on, created so many openings Down that channel then .
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Absolutely batshit day, my worst ever journey to Villa Park.
I got the 11.00 from Marylebone but just after Warwick we had to turn back because of a tree on the line. Fair play to the rail network, they had buses lined up to get us to Brum about 2.20, and jumped off just before Digbeth as traffic was at a standstill. At New street there was confusion as train after train was delayed an cancelled, before an announcement at 3pm that there would be no trains to Witton. I ran ou to the taxi stand which was about 25 deep and eventually got in a cab with 3 Saints fans and a Villa fan, dropping us off outside the Trinity. I ran up to the steps of the Holte and loads were leaving with a couple of pints - I tried to get in, showing my ticket but a jobsworth told me I had to go to a turnstile and scan it. A couple of other more mature stewards apologised about their colleague and helped me in the right direction. I got in and saw one minute of added time before the ref blew his whistle. Loads of people were left behind at New Street who probably gave up as the only way to get to the game was taxi, so that will explain at least a few hundred empty seats
Based on the second half I thought we were wasteful and didn’t keep possession well. McGinn and Kamara shone for me, though Digne looked ok too. But I was very grumpy after my journey plus the shit stewarding and wanted to at least see a goal so was angry at our wastefulness, with some poor finishing and decision making in the box.
I got a lift home from a mate - I’d neglected the lift up as he was leaving early and I needed more sleep this morning - but honestly wish I’d just turned back from New street at 3pm. Nobody’s fault, just bad weather, but a lot of hassle for 46minutes of football.
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Weather was shit, we got the same three points we would have got under better conditions..move on
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Three points and a clean sheet in atrocious conditions I'll take that.
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I thought kellyman was a wide player? We spent 15m on philiogene dont pay that and keep kellyman (who we sold for 20m) which means between both deals its only a difference of 5m
The £15 mil to bring Philogene back works out at about £4mil on PSR balance for this season, but Kellyman is a direct £20mil off our PSR worries.
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Cold and wet and not to much to get excited about. Must of been really hard for both teams to play football in that.
Got home and had to drive straight back into Brum to get my daughter from work as all cross city teains cancelled, roads were carnage.
Kamara changes what we are as a team, integral.
McGinn was great. Why Watkins didn’t square to him twice when he would of had a tap in i really can’t fathom.
Anyway, onwards and upwards, Leipzig and Forest two really big games now.
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Absolutely batshit day, my worst ever journey to Villa Park.
I got the 11.00 from Marylebone but just after Warwick we had to turn back because of a tree on the line. Fair play to the rail network, they had buses lined up to get us to Brum about 2.20, and jumped off just before Digbeth as traffic was at a standstill. At New street there was confusion as train after train was delayed an cancelled, before an announcement at 3pm that there would be no trains to Witton. I ran ou to the taxi stand which was about 25 deep and eventually got in a cab with 3 Saints fans and a Villa fan, dropping us off outside the Trinity. I ran up to the steps of the Holte and loads were leaving with a couple of pints - I tried to get in, showing my ticket but a jobsworth told me I had to go to a turnstile and scan it. A couple of other more mature stewards apologised about their colleague and helped me in the right direction. I got in and saw one minute of added time before the ref blew his whistle. Loads of people were left behind at New Street who probably gave up as the only way to get to the game was taxi, so that will explain at least a few hundred empty seats
Based on the second half I thought we were wasteful and didn’t keep possession well. McGinn and Kamara shone for me, though Digne looked ok too. But I was very grumpy after my journey plus the shit stewarding and wanted to at least see a goal so was angry at our wastefulness, with some poor finishing and decision making in the box.
I got a lift home from a mate - I’d neglected the lift up as he was leaving early and I needed more sleep this morning - but honestly wish I’d just turned back from New street at 3pm. Nobody’s fault, just bad weather, but a lot of hassle for 46minutes of football.
Wow…you deserve a medal for this mate or at least a free 150 coffee cup🙂
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Not a classic but 3 points so who cares.
I am aware it’s a grumpy thing to mention but I really can’t stand those “can I have your shirt?” signs - they focussed on one kid who had different players on either side to double his chances.
It’s the scrote parents who have their kids doing this to then scalp the shirt on eBay. I fucking hate entitled beggars and I’d ban this shit from the ground.
I agree….why not put all the players shirts up for auction after the game….obviously all proceeds to charity….soon kill this crap off…
It’s not just kids. I often see adults, usually the same people, begging for shirts at away games. Shameless fuckers.
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As Snithy said earlier, Tyler Dibling has the makings of being something very special, there’s a Grealish/Waddle vibe about him. He wasn’t at his best today as I thought Rogers did a decent job of stopping his runs. Overall we were worthy winners. Duran made his goal, Watkins wouldn’t have done similar. Watkins messed up a number of chances, Duran would probably have converted a few of them. Watkins is the better player, such is football.
We should have won far more comfortably but a win is all that matters, the rare clean sheet a bonus. Kamara easily MOM. We also have a contender for the wettest, windiest and coldest fixture ever.
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It was a poor game today, with far too many mistakes, but for me the worst culprit is Tielemans. He give the ball away far too often, and then just throws his arms up in the air, instead of trying to regain possession. He's out weak link in midfield.
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It was a poor game today, with far too many mistakes, but for me the worst culprit is Tielemans. He give the ball away far too often, and then just throws his arms up in the air, instead of trying to regain possession. He's out weak link in midfield.
He started the season really well, but agree that he has given the ball away far too often in recent games. Would like to see what a Kamara and Onana partnership looks like in central midfield really.
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Watkins isn’t a worry for me, he’ll still assist and score plenty. Philogene on the other hand, he’s just not good enough to be our only alternative wide right.
Yep, Diaby was quality and a massive upgrade on Philogene. Qualifying for Champions League and then having to replace him with a 2nd division player stinks. These rules are a silly.
We didn’t have to replace him with philogene though. We could have banked the £6-£7m and spent £30m plus on a player.
Or kept kellyman and seen what he could do.
Kellyman isn’t a winger, nor an upgrade and I thought we had to raise funds by selling Diaby and Dougie.
I thought kellyman was a wide player? We spent 15m on philiogene dont pay that and keep kellyman (who we sold for 20m) which means between both deals its only a difference of 5m
How many times has kellyman played?
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Tielemans is the last person to play out to, his reaction times are far too slow, both sides could have given a goal away by goalkeepers trying to be outfielders. We won thats a plus.
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Kamara was superb, if we could get Onana along side him we could really start to dominate teams.
The defence was very good defending, just wish Carlos would stop giving the ball away.
SJM, Rogers and Duran were very good. Tielemans not quite at it.
Bailey Watkins Barkley Philogene poor.
EMI fine.
Dibling is really talented ,yes very Waddlesque.
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Dreadful performance against really poor opposition.
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McGinn was great. Why Watkins didn’t square to him twice when he would of had a tap in i really can’t fathom.
Watching again on MOTD you have to credit the defender on both occasions ( was it the same one?), he did a fantastic job of making up Watkins mind for him by shutting off the square pass forcing him onto his left, then closed space down very well. Great defending, Ollie should have done much better but credit where its due.
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Yep, it was Konsa-like defending, very good stuff.
Watkins confidence levels are just down a bit, and his touch is suffering too.
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We also have a contender for the wettest, windiest and coldest fixture ever.
Up there with Oldham for wind chill.
It was only my lads 4th ever game, and his first win. I was saying to him that I'd been going to the game for what seems like forever and that was as cold and wet as I'd ever been. He replied that 'yes its the coldest and wettest he'd ever been at his games, but it was still brilliant'
Makes it all seem worthwhile, nearly.
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Kamara was superb, if we could get Onana along side him we could really start to dominate teams.
I think I'd be a little concerned how the ball was going to move forward without either Youri or Barkley as one of the pair, especially as we've seen that if the CF works to stop Pau getting on the ball we can struggle even with one of them.
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Decent win, iffy performance from what I saw. Anyone off to complete a fun Saturday in the bad weather by dancing to the Human League at Brum arena tonight?
Yep! I did. After taking an hour and a half to get from Lichfield Rd to the Mailbox in the car 😤
Hope you enjoyed the gig Eamonn.
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Naff game but we were clearly levels above them even playing poorly - 19 shots to 4 and never trouble in the 2nd half. We just lacked precision and failed to make the most of multiple situations which could have given the score line a far more comfortable appearance.
SJM was my pick, his pressing from central areas makes a huge difference and he set the tone. Rogers was mostly good and a little spell out in the inside left position is doing him some good. Duran took his goal well, Kamara was brill and the back four comfortable albeit against limited opposition. Tielemans and Bailey poor and it's starting to look like the latter might not recover the electric form of last season at all, which is gutting.
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Tielemans has good game/bad game syndrome, he is very inconsistent.
Yesterday. He got caught in possession too many times, got muscled off the ball easily and slowed the game down too much when in possession.
He is a much better player when he’s playing at a higher tempo and dictating the game, rather than playing as defensive midfielder.
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Back on track . Good teams find a way. Onwards and Upwards!
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Poor game, awful weather. Decided to to do just enough it seemed and in fairness, we comfortably did. Could have had e or 4 second half, can't be so profligate all the while.
Leipzig bound!
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It was a poor game today, with far too many mistakes, but for me the worst culprit is Tielemans. He give the ball away far too often, and then just throws his arms up in the air, instead of trying to regain possession. He's out weak link in midfield.
He started the season really well, but agree that he has given the ball away far too often in recent games. Would like to see what a Kamara and Onana partnership looks like in central midfield really.
Agree with both comments as that was my impression of Youri as well. Sometimes he’s slow and careless and there was lot of that yesterday.
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Had to leave Villa Park early as my 7 year old Gson was struggling after getting soaked on the way to the ground. His safety took precedent. The bonus was that on way back we saw the Villa bus on Lichfield Road going towards Spaghetti Junction, I presume on its way to Leipzig.
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We saw the Liverpool team bus on the way down to Villa Park yesterday. Poor bloke has a right drive on for their game.
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Tielemans has good game/bad game syndrome, he is very inconsistent.
Yesterday. He got caught in possession too many times, got muscled off the ball easily and slowed the game down too much when in possession.
He is a much better player when he’s playing at a higher tempo and dictating the game, rather than playing as defensive midfielder.
Mostly poor performances of late.
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Two things I've learned this week....
Morgan Rogers needs to stick with the blonde locks (*last two performances have been like a light switch being turned on)
John McGinn's super power is playing in typical shite Scottish weather (*been below par for a while now, but thought he was pushing for MotM yesterday)
Onto Leipzig. UTV
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Two things I've learned this week....
Morgan Rogers needs to stick with the blonde locks (*last two performances have been like a light switch being turned on)
John McGinn's super power is playing in typical shite Scottish weather (*been below par for a while now, but thought he was pushing for MotM yesterday)
Onto Leipzig. UTV
His post match interview on MOTD last night reflects that Nii Lamptey, he was positively basking in the weather!
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Two things I've learned this week....
Morgan Rogers needs to stick with the blonde locks (*last two performances have been like a light switch being turned on)
John McGinn's super power is playing in typical shite Scottish weather (*been below par for a while now, but thought he was pushing for MotM yesterday)
Onto Leipzig. UTV
His post match interview on MOTD last night reflects that Nii Lamptey, he was positively basking in the weather!
Ha ha, brilliant!
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Wont be in a rush to watch the highlights of that match thats for sure
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We saw the Liverpool team bus on the way down to Villa Park yesterday. Poor bloke has a right drive on for their game.
We did too.
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Rogers McGinn and Kamara ran the show. Martinez deserved that clean sheet, playing with injury , long periods with nothing to do apart from keep warm made a good save which is standard for him. Good couple of home wins.
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We were scrappy for much of the game but were so bad yesterday I find it difficult to judge on anything other that everyone worked hard. Pleased with the result but after travel problems and being cold for the whole match I reckon the final whistle was my favourite part of the game.
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Rogers McGinn and Kamara ran the show. Martinez deserved that clean sheet, playing with injury , long periods with nothing to do apart from keep warm made a good save which is standard for him. Good couple of home wins.
Cross stop maybe? Because officially, he didn't have a save to make.
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We also have a contender for the wettest, windiest and coldest fixture ever.
Up there with Oldham for wind chill.
It was only my lads 4th ever game, and his first win. I was saying to him that I'd been going to the game for what seems like forever and that was as cold and wet as I'd ever been. He replied that 'yes its the coldest and wettest he'd ever been at his games, but it was still brilliant'
Makes it all seem worthwhile, nearly.
Beautiful.
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Notts County away in ? 1993 ? will never be beaten for cold.
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Rogers McGinn and Kamara ran the show. Martinez deserved that clean sheet, playing with injury , long periods with nothing to do apart from keep warm made a good save which is standard for him. Good couple of home wins.
Cross stop maybe? Because officially, he didn't have a save to make.
Yes, the cross was the only thing I remember him doing.
Not surprising, as we wheeled out our clean sheet defence. Carlos has played in 15 of our last 21, Konsa at RB in 13 of those. The last clean sheet Carlos didn’t contribute to was Chelsea in the Cup last January.
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Kamara was superb, if we could get Onana along side him we could really start to dominate teams.
I think I'd be a little concerned how the ball was going to move forward without either Youri or Barkley as one of the pair, especially as we've seen that if the CF works to stop Pau getting on the ball we can struggle even with one of them.
Disagree PW: both Kamara and Onana have a decent pass and see the forward options.
One of our problems going forward is the lack of a decent right-wing outlet (since our current options - Bailey and Philogene - are simply not at the level required) and the fact that Rogers seems to get heavily marked by many of our opponents. Get better movement further forward and the Bouba-Amadou combo will work fine.
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We also have a contender for the wettest, windiest and coldest fixture ever.
Up there with Oldham for wind chill.
It was only my lads 4th ever game, and his first win. I was saying to him that I'd been going to the game for what seems like forever and that was as cold and wet as I'd ever been. He replied that 'yes its the coldest and wettest he'd ever been at his games, but it was still brilliant'
Makes it all seem worthwhile, nearly.
Top stuff, the pride and relief when you realise they are hooked...
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We also have a contender for the wettest, windiest and coldest fixture ever.
Up there with Oldham for wind chill.
It was only my lads 4th ever game, and his first win. I was saying to him that I'd been going to the game for what seems like forever and that was as cold and wet as I'd ever been. He replied that 'yes its the coldest and wettest he'd ever been at his games, but it was still brilliant'
Makes it all seem worthwhile, nearly.
Top stuff, the pride and relief when you realise they are hooked...
Poor little bugger.
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That Dibling is like a budget clone of peak Grealish. Looks like Forest went to the same factory and ordered one too .
Budget? At 18 Grealish was playing in League One for Notts County. His starring FA Cup semi appearance came when he was a year older than Dibling is now, and we considered him a “kid” even then.
Jack didn’t really come into his own as a genuine star talent until we were relegated and in the Championship,
Dibling is putting in great performances week in week out in the Premier league, right now, at 18.
This may be as good as he ever gets, but if he can play like this at 18, my guess is he’ll be at a top club within a year, and a regular full international by the time he’s in his very early 20s.
Agreed, I think he looks top class and is far better than Grealish at that age. He will defintely get snapped up in the summer. Interesting to see where he goes and for how much. Given relegated teams generally get fleeced, I think he will be an excellent buy for someone.
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Another one with great feet and deceptively quick . He made one run with the ball where Digne and philogene could lnot get near him and kamara had to make a last ditch tackle . I like him a lot
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I’d love us to get him, unless we think Broggio can be somewhere near as good.
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Man city will get Dibling and let Grealish go to Fulham.
horrible day yesterday , Duran wins it MOTM for me , If Ollie starts it , its 0 - 0 .
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Man city will get Dibling and let Grealish go to Fulham.
horrible day yesterday , Duran wins it MOTM for me , If Ollie starts it , its 0 - 0 .
I expected it to be Liverpool as it has been awhile since they last used their other South Coast feeder club.
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Man city will get Dibling and let Grealish go to Fulham.
horrible day yesterday , Duran wins it MOTM for me , If Ollie starts it , its 0 - 0 .
If Ollie started, then he would have been subbed for Duran in the second half.
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I’d love us to get him, unless we think Broggio can be somewhere near as good.
It's becoming apparent that Philogene just isn't up to it and with Bailey form swinging wildly we really need some top class wide players. It's something we've lacked this season and it's a testament to Emery's ability that we sit 5th today
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also have a contender for the wettest, windiest and coldest fixture ever.
Nothing will ever beat Huddersfield in that away end with no roof
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Rogers McGinn
Hey Mr Tambourine Man!
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Rogers McGinn
Hey Mr Tambourine Man!
This is the content I'm here for 👏
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Kamara was superb, if we could get Onana along side him we could really start to dominate teams.
I think I'd be a little concerned how the ball was going to move forward without either Youri or Barkley as one of the pair, especially as we've seen that if the CF works to stop Pau getting on the ball we can struggle even with one of them.
Disagree PW: both Kamara and Onana have a decent pass and see the forward options.
One of our problems going forward is the lack of a decent right-wing outlet (since our current options - Bailey and Philogene - are simply not at the level required) and the fact that Rogers seems to get heavily marked by many of our opponents. Get better movement further forward and the Bouba-Amadou combo will work fine.
We could also play Tielemans in the 10 position with Rogers SJM either side.
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I’d love us to get him, unless we think Broggio can be somewhere near as good.
Issue with Dibling is that they've already sold him once, to Chelsea. He didn't settle and ended up coming back two months later. You'd need to be very sure that he was going to be happy at the club and not wanting to leave again within months before forking out twenty to thirty million quid.
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Other issue is that he sounds like a small village in Wiltshire
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Other issue is that he sounds like a small village in Wiltshire
Or a Battle of Britain fighter base, somewhere in Norfolk.
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Or an unspeakable sexual act on Urban Dictionary, probably involving frozen shit.
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I’d love us to get him, unless we think Broggio can be somewhere near as good.
Issue with Dibling is that they've already sold him once, to Chelsea. He didn't settle and ended up coming back two months later. You'd need to be very sure that he was going to be happy at the club and not wanting to leave again within months before forking out twenty to thirty million quid.
I’d hedge against that by signing him this January but leave him at Southampton for the rest of the season. Even some of next. He’s only 18 so let him mature where he is comfortable.
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I went Dibling with some of my private school mates when I was a teen. Wouldn’t be aloud now thanks to the “woke police”.
Bartlett broke his leg - but we still laugh about it now. And the farmers thanked us - after all it helped fertilise there fields
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Over the years I've seen plenty of games, in conditions like yesterday, where we've slipped up. It could & should have been more comfortable. But it doesn't really matter.
Despite the fact that we haven't hit anything resembling the form of this time last season, we are still 6th & only 2 points off 4th. But we need some results from the next 4 league games to keep us in the picture. Hopefully we can hit some form & get a couple of players in January to give us a boost.
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I feel like every time it was blowing a gale during the late 80s/early 90s we would be playing Wimbledon and would lose.
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I’d love us to get him, unless we think Broggio can be somewhere near as good.
Issue with Dibling is that they've already sold him once, to Chelsea. He didn't settle and ended up coming back two months later. You'd need to be very sure that he was going to be happy at the club and not wanting to leave again within months before forking out twenty to thirty million quid.
I’d hedge against that by signing him this January but leave him at Southampton for the rest of the season. Even some of next. He’s only 18 so let him mature where he is comfortable.
So leave him there to develop a losing mentality and learn getting thrashed every week is acceptable?
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Another one with great feet and deceptively quick . He made one run with the ball where Digne and philogene could lnot get near him and kamara had to make a last ditch tackle . I like him a lot
It was precisely that run that made me realise how quick he is. He was running with the ball, and neither Digne nor Philogene made up any ground on him. Not that either of those two is particularly rapid, but you always expect the players without the ball to be "slightly" quicker than the one dribbling it.
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One of the most solid 1-0s ever. Bouba/Super John for MotM and boy, was it cold!
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Aston Villa are the team with the highest percentage of their total passes being line-breaking passes in the UEFA Champions League this season (15.9%). Indeed, only two sides have made more line-breaking passes from their own half than Villa (211) this term: Bayer Leverkusen (241) and Juventus (216).
RB Leipzig have averaged 386 high-intensity pressures per game in the UEFA Champions League this season; the second-most of any team in the tournament, only behind Sturm Graz (392.4). Meanwhile, Aston Villa rank 33rd out of 36 teams for high-intensity pressures per game in the competition this term (265.80)
Aston Villa’s Morgan Rogers is one of only five players to have completed 10+ dribbles (18) and created 10+ chances from open play (10) in the UEFA Champions League this season, along with Vinícius Júnior, Florian Wirtz, Savinho, and Johan Bakayoko.
Jhon Durán is Aston Villa’s top scorer in the UEFA Champions League this season (two goals), while no player has attempted more shots for them (9). This is despite the Colombian only being on the pitch for 35% of Villa’s match time in the competition this season (159/450).
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Wrong thread eamonn.
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If he's still in South America it could be that he's affected by the altitude/Tequela/other?...
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Haha...you're not wrong!