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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Accent Guy on December 02, 2024, 05:54:48 AM
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Not started one of these yet so here goes.
We really are approaching must-win territory now. For confidence as much as anything. We have some tough games coming up and we really need to stop the rot with these two home games against red and white stripey people.
I wouldn't be averse to trying something like:
Olsen (Assuming Emi is out)
Konsa
Mings
Torres
Digne
Kamara
Onana
Tielemans
Bailey
Buendia
Duran
Although I expect Watkins to start as well as Rogers, who will start every game until he hands over the compromising polaroids of Unai he must have locked in his safe.
If Onana isn't ready then I'd play SJM in the middle with Bouba and let Youri drive forward.
Need a big performance here and I think we will get it.
6 points this week and the world will look a lot brighter. Anything less than 4 doesn't bear thinking about.
2-0 to Villa: Tielemans and Duran.
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This pretty much is a must win after the horror show yesterday, and not for any league position reason. We need to stop this crap run before it becomes something worse.
If we can’t be the sparkling team we were last season, we need to show some balls and some fight. That was lacking yesterday and was the most disappointing aspect.
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0-2.
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Draw all over it.
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3-3
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Brentford had a habit of scoring in the first minute. We need to come out the blocks fast, with intensity and put in a few ferocious tackles and get on the front foot.
If we do the usual and pass it back to Emi, for him to stand still with the ball for 30 seconds and scratch his arse, I fear we will be one down pretty fast.
Up the tempo and Up the the Villa.
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We struggle against these at the best of times. Massively depends on team selection this one.... and based on Unai's recent brain farts, I'm going for a 0-3 defeat. We are infuriatingly slow in every department lately, and the run will continue on Wednesday night.
If I see one Villa player making the 'slow it down' gesture to the rest of the team on Wednesday, I'm going to lose my shit. Not looking forward to this.
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Not started one of these yet so here goes.
We really are approaching must-win territory now. For confidence as much as anything. We have some tough games coming up and we really need to stop the rot with these two home games against red and white stripey people.
I wouldn't be averse to trying something like:
Olsen (Assuming Emi is out)
Konsa
Mings
Torres
Digne
Kamara
Onana
Tielemans
Bailey
Buendia
Duran
Although I expect Watkins to start as well as Rogers, who will start every game until he hands over the compromising polaroids of Unai he must have locked in his safe.
If Onana isn't ready then I'd play SJM in the middle with Bouba and let Youri drive forward.
Need a big performance here and I think we will get it.
6 points this week and the world will look a lot brighter. Anything less than 4 doesn't bear thinking about.
2-0 to Villa: Tielemans and Duran.
No offence, but that team has 4-0 home defeat and P45 time all over it. A forward line of Buendia, Duran and Bailey? Blimey.
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Martinez
Cash, Konsa, Mings, Maatsen
Kamara, Onana
Bailey, Tielemans, McGinn
Watkins
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Martinez
Cash Konsa Mings Digne
McGinn Onana Kamara Rogers
Tielemans Watkins
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The issue with dropping Torres and replacing with Mings is the outball. Torres is precision, Mings plays up the line for runners. And we don't have pace.
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Martinez
Cash Konsa Mings Digne
McGinn Onana Kamara Rogers
Tielemans Watkins
I think I'd be tempted with that front 6 too, especially if Ramsey is still out (which of course he certainly will be). Maybe Maatsen for Digne. Harsh on Torres too maybe, although I know others will disagree! Alternatively, go for something radically different shape wise and play a front 3 of Watkins, Duran and Rogers.
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Martinez
Konsa Carlos Mings Digne
Kamara Onana
SJM Tielemans Bailey
Duran
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The Liverpool and Juventus performances lead me to believe that we were coming out of a bad patch, but yesterday put us right back to square one.
We were beaten to the ball almost every time by Chelsea and this alone needs addressing urgently before you even look at anything else. Desire and effort is your starting point and ours has vanished, our passing is off, players look bewildered and we have no cohesion. There needs to a quite a considerable turn around and I think we may see it on Saturday, but not Wednesday. Brentford Nylons are no mugs and will score early and it will get darker before it gets light.
1-2
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3-3
I admire your optimism we will score 3!!
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3-3
I admire your optimism we will score 3!!
He is half right ;)
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3-3
I admire your optimism we will score 3!!
He is half right ;)
We're going to score 6?! I'll have that.
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Lose this and the knives will be out, unfortunately our defense for a while looks to be under anaesthetic, dozy as you like. And up front we've forgotten to get the ball wide and put crosses in(5th worst in the league) and play down the middle and run into dead ends.No one has seen or heard of our midfield for weeks. On that basis, sad to say I can only see another loss here, really hope I'm wrong, as we desperately need a win.
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If the knives are out after this, regardless of the result, we deserve the club to be turned into a fucking Aldi.
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Maybe a change in formation to a back 3 might happen to free up Torres on the left to be playmaker. I would definitely start Mings.
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Brentford to have one of their two best games of the season, Villa to play shit. On recent form we can probably throw in a bent ref, too. Draw at best.
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Is emi even fit for this ?
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If the knives are out after this, regardless of the result, we deserve the club to be turned into a fucking Aldi.
Why? If a manager takes the plaudits when things go well, then they can take the criticism when things go badly. It's only opinions, in any case. Just like it's only ever owners who get to fire managers, whatever the fans think.
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If the knives are out after this, regardless of the result, we deserve the club to be turned into a fucking Aldi.
Why? If a manager takes the plaudits when things go well, then they can take the criticism when things go badly. It's only opinions, in any case. Just like it's only ever owners who get to fire managers, whatever the fans think.
I understand “knives out”, in this context, to mean people wanting the manager gone. Which would be an absolutely ridiculous opinion to hold. I’ve criticised him elsewhere for the tactical issues we’ve got, which I think is related to his stubbornness.
If it just means that people will moan like we’re the worst team in the world, then we’re already there.
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I hasten to add I for one won't be going to the cutlery drawer, but a few will if we lose. We need to stop the rot and quick.
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If the knives are out after this, regardless of the result, we deserve the club to be turned into a fucking Aldi.
Dont think anyone has said emery out to be fair just criticising the recent poor form and performances
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If the knives are out after this, regardless of the result, we deserve the club to be turned into a fucking Aldi.
Dont think anyone has said emery out to be fair just criticising the recent poor form and performances
No need to turn us into a value supermarket just yet then.
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Shame, perhaps we could have picked up a winger in the middle aisle.
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Shame, perhaps we could have picked up a winger in the middle aisle.
Saw some “Technical Trousers” in the middle aisle and still don’t know what they are.
I mean they were technically trousers.
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Shame, perhaps we could have picked up a winger in the middle aisle.
Judging by one of our threads, I think we did.
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Shame, perhaps we could have picked up a winger in the middle aisle.
Judging by one of our threads, I think we did.
Ha ha, good point.
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....................Olsen
.........Konsa, Mings, Torres
............Kamara, Onana
.........Cash, McGinn, Maatsen
................Tielemans
.................Watkins
Unfortunately that team selection won't happen and their pace will expose us again to another loss!
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If we play five defenders at home to poxy Brentford I will start the "Emery Out" campaign.
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From memory the last time we played Brentford Konsa was right back and he got absolutely destroyed second half. he played very centrally and they just kept rampaging down the left.
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Another midweek home game when the Dogshitters are at home too. Ridiculous from a travel perspective.
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Another midweek home game when the Dogshitters are at home too. Ridiculous from a travel perspective.
You only need to add about a thousand people travelling above normal for the Birmingham transport network to grind to a complete halt.
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I fully expect to be made to look a twat but I reckon we win the next two league games and then Leipzig and we go on a lovely little run full of confidence to get back on track. Deluded you say? Probably.
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From memory the last time we played Brentford Konsa was right back and he got absolutely destroyed second half. he played very centrally and they just kept rampaging down the left.
Konsa is horrid at RB! He always defends far too narrow in that position. At centre back his form needs a lot of improvement. Another reason to bring Mings back in.
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From memory the last time we played Brentford Konsa was right back and he got absolutely destroyed second half. he played very centrally and they just kept rampaging down the left.
Konsa is horrid at RB! He always defends far too narrow in that position. At centre back his form needs a lot of improvement. Another reason to bring Mings back in.
I worry that too much of the former has affected the latter.
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A few weeks ago I would have backed us to cruise through this fixture. Now I think Brentford are just too strong for us despite their inconsistency.
Our best hope for our next win is Southampton and if we fail then I’ll be ordering some first class Japanese knives from John Lewis.
Unless I can get them from Aldi‘s middle aisle.
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A few weeks ago I would have backed us to cruise through this fixture. Now I think Brentford are just too strong for us despite their inconsistency.
Our best hope for our next win is Southampton and if we fail then I’ll be ordering some first class Japanese knives from John Lewis.
Unless I can get them from Aldi‘s middle aisle.
If brentford are too strong for us we may as well settle for finish in the bottom half this season.
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Depressed, 8 games no victory.
Our way of playing has been neutralised see Palace manager comments as an example.
I think we’re going to muddle through to Jan and raise ourselves when the CL matches arrive.
I expect us to concede first half; Watkins to be wasteful, Rogers to start, Phil to start and subs make no impact.
2-0 Bees with post match comments to be ‘consistency’ , transition, thanks to supporters, and in rinse and repeat for Saints.
Good while it lasted :-(
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A few weeks ago I would have backed us to cruise through this fixture. Now I think Brentford are just too strong for us despite their inconsistency.
Our best hope for our next win is Southampton and if we fail then I’ll be ordering some first class Japanese knives from John Lewis.
Unless I can get them from Aldi‘s middle aisle.
If brentford are too strong for us we may as well settle for finish in the bottom half this season.
You do and half write some absolute garbage you do. Yes, let's give up shall we
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A few weeks ago I would have backed us to cruise through this fixture. Now I think Brentford are just too strong for us despite their inconsistency.
Our best hope for our next win is Southampton and if we fail then I’ll be ordering some first class Japanese knives from John Lewis.
Unless I can get them from Aldi‘s middle aisle.
If brentford are too strong for us we may as well settle for finish in the bottom half this season.
Maybe but that’s how I see things now. I still hope and pray that Unai will turn things around over the coming months if not weeks.
Can’t help but start the 40 point safety countdown though.
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Time to get back to basics , with added caution with Olsen likely to play . Assume Onana will be absent again and Ramsey .
-------- Olsen ----------
Cash Konsa Mings Digne
-- McGinn - Kamara ---
Tielemans ------ Buendia
--- Watkins --- Bailey ---
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I’d be tempted to play Maatsen as a LM for this just to inject some pace,
Go for Buendia behind Duran to freshen things up too
Olsen
Digne
Mings
Konsa
Cash
Kamara
Tielemans
McGinn
Maatsen
Buendia
Duran
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I don't think Duran is a starter but i'm at a point now where i feel he needs to be given some games from the start .
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I’d be tempted to play Maatsen as a LM for this just to inject some pace,
Go for Buendia behind Duran to freshen things up too
Olsen
Digne
Mings
Konsa
Cash
Kamara
Tielemans
McGinn
Maatsen
Buendia
Duran
Yikes.
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Think this will tricky enough, especially if Emi is out. Gone for a draw but we need at 4 points (preferably 6) from our next 2 games.
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A few weeks ago I would have backed us to cruise through this fixture. Now I think Brentford are just too strong for us despite their inconsistency.
Our best hope for our next win is Southampton and if we fail then I’ll be ordering some first class Japanese knives from John Lewis.
Unless I can get them from Aldi‘s middle aisle.
If brentford are too strong for us we may as well settle for finish in the bottom half this season.
You do and half write some absolute garbage you do. Yes, let's give up shall we
As usual corey doesnt read the post just wants to post nonsense yet again.
If you read the post i said that we if we go in expecting that we go in (levico this is not a dig at you so please do not take it like that) with brentford as favourites then we should just accept midtable. To break it down for you as it seems its quite difficult for you to understand- we should be beating brentford at home a team whose away form is one of the worst in the league as we are at home and our expectations are higher than that
Go take a break tonight take out your frustrations on a punch bag or something its not healthy this obsession you have.
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I find Demitri's posts a lot better if you read them in the voice of Gore Vidal ;).
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I sometimes think they’d benefit from a typing wand. Like Homer’s dialling wand in The Simpsons.
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I find Demitri's posts a lot better if you read them in the voice of Gore Vidal ;).
"Once again, words fail Monty"
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I find Demitri's posts a lot better if you read them in the voice of Gore Vidal ;).
I'm just grateful that I have typoglycemia.
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With success comes added scrutiny, every game we are up against a hard press because they have seen how slow we are at the back. I watch all premieship games or highlights of them and clubs of the Fulham ilk have progressed and are far quicker across the pitch. Love what Emery has done for the club but he has to adjust and quickly.
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I find Demitri's posts a lot better if you read them in the voice of Gore Vidal ;).
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E62bL2nXoAopEyQ.jpg)
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With success comes added scrutiny, every game we are up against a hard press because they have seen how slow we are at the back. I watch all premieship games or highlights of them and clubs of the Fulham ilk have progressed and are far quicker across the pitch. Love what Emery has done for the club but he has to adjust and quickly.
Sky high ticket pricing too so fans will have shorter fuses
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Think well do a goal or two here and win.
2-0 - Watkins (2)
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I find Demitri's posts a lot better if you read them in the voice of Gore Vidal ;).
😂
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olsen
konsa mings torres
cash kamara onana maatsen
bailey telemans
Duran
just think watkins , mcginn and rogers need benched
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Just saw the bad news about emi fucks sake.
No chance of a clean sheet then. Guess we will havet o score 5 to win Wednesday night now 😂
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Watkins literally scored last weekend. Lots of strikers miss chances, he’s actually started to look sharper.
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1-1 draw at best.
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I don't think Duran is a starter but i'm at a point now where i feel he needs to be given some games from the start .
Duran fully deserves a start, he’s a better finisher than Watkins. Ollie has been rubbish and has missed more ‘big chances’ than anyone else in the Premier League.
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I don't think Duran is a starter but i'm at a point now where i feel he needs to be given some games from the start .
Duran fully deserves a start, he’s a better finisher than Watkins. Ollie has been rubbish and has missed more ‘big chances’ than anyone else in the Premier League.
He's still scored 6 in 13, the misses are frustrating but all strikers miss chances and at least he's making runs and getting into positions. The entire team is struggling and ollie is the only one who really looks even close to scoring at the moment.
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2-1 - it'll be messy & nervous but ultimately stabilise the ship. A late winner.
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olsen
konsa mings torres
cash kamara onana maatsen
bailey telemans
Duran
*Team America excessive vomiting gif.
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Just had a look and Brentford have lost 5 and drawn one of their away games, but the defeats were to Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd, Spurs and then Fulham to two 90+ min goals, the draw to Everton.
So tough game coming up as always against these. It feels like it could be a shitty defeat almost a year to the day of that great Man City performance. Feck it though, ill go with a close, tense 2-1 to us. Watkins (2)
Olsen
Cash. Konsa. Torres. Maatsen
Kamara. Onana
Bailey. Tielemans McGinn
Watkins
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We need to not chase the game , keep it very tight and almost hit them on the counter . All out attack against these i worry won't end well
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If Martinez is genuinely out for two months, then Mings, Kamara and Onana need to start every game. Protect the goalkeeper.
If we carry on with the usual backline the season's over.
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Onana and Kamara told to sit deep and protect is a must. Play the double pivot. Get Tielemans into the 10. Rogers left, Bailey right, Duran up top, deserves a start, Watkins had missed far, far too many good chances to think he can just start the week after.
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Olsen
Cash
Konsa
Torres
Digne
Kamara
Onana
Bailey
Tielemens
Rogers
Duran
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Villa win. These are awful away from home.
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Olsen
Konsa Torres Mings
Cash Kamara Onana Maatsen
Barkley Tielemans
Watkins
Duran, Rogers, McGinn and - maybe - Ramsey to come on after 60.
We need more pace out wide and our fullbacks are quick. Torres is a distributor not a full-on defender so give Mings a run-out.
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Another glaring weakness that wasn't solved in the Summer, reserve keeper hologram. Coming back to bite us now.
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Villa win. These are awful away from home.
whos always the best team to play when you need a goal or a win
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Villa win. These are awful away from home.
whos always the best team to play when you need a goal or a win
Ghostbusters.
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Villa win. These are awful away from home.
whos always the best team to play when you need a goal or a win
Tottenham?
It's been a rough few weeks form wise, but we're off J6, not J9.
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Villa win. These are awful away from home.
whos always the best team to play when you need a goal or a win
Tottenham?
It's been a rough few weeks form wise, but we're off J6, not J9.
2 home wins and Ill even put a christmas tree up.
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Really hope Onana is fit soon, I'm convinced he's our key midfielder and our best performances this season have been when he plays.
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With the wingers faltering I would try a new system. We cannot expect to play the same formation every week expecting something to change. I'd be tempted to start with a back three and see if we can keep the midfield shape.
Martinez
Konsa Mings Torres
Cash Digne
Mginn Kamara Tielemans
Duran Watkins
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I really do not know why so many think the answer to the problem is to go to a Back 5.
Thankfully Emery does not do 5 at the back either.
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I think the answer is having a midfield of kamara and onana in it. That is more robust.
But our luck seems against us as we get one back the other gets injured
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We really need a win so I'm going for a 2-1 Villa win.
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We desperately need to up our intensity and intent. A good illustration is the passing around the back, I don’t actually mind it when it’s done properly. But it’s so slow and lacking in purpose at the moment we’re just inviting pressure without adding any value. We need to be much more purposeful in what we do.
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Not looking forward to this, Frank's Brentford team are battlers and given our lack of confidence, it's easy to see us being phlattened. 1-3.
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Brentford are one of the best pressing teams in the league so that doesn’t augur well for Olsen, Carlos, Konsa et al if we try to play walking football. Agree about upping the intensity and getting the ball back to front much quicker even if possession drops a bit.
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Another glaring weakness that wasn't solved in the Summer, reserve keeper hologram. Coming back to bite us now.
They think it was solved with Gouchi being the replacement for Olsen when he leaves at end of season, or maybe even Jan.
We cannot just stockpile players - we are not part of the scum 6 (yet)
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I'd put the young lad Zych in.
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Or play Swedish international, and the World's number two, Robin Olsen. ;-)
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Brentford are one of the best pressing teams in the league so that doesn’t augur well for Olsen, Carlos, Konsa et al if we try to play walking football. Agree about upping the intensity and getting the ball back to front much quicker even if possession drops a bit.
No point trying to play that type of football with Olsen in goal, another reason to get Mings in for Torres. Olsen does have a good long punt on him so Watkins might benefit from that.
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I really do not know why so many think the answer to the problem is to go to a Back 5.
Thankfully Emery does not do 5 at the back either.
Mainly because we need defensive solidity and some pace out wide. The players we have with the best pace are our fullbacks.
And, all of what we've tried thus far has not delivered.
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Onana still out, as is Ramsey, Emi they are checking after training today (he won't play!)
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I know we all love and Emi and everything, but his save percentage is the third worst in the Premier League this season, at only 63%.
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I really do not know why so many think the answer to the problem is to go to a Back 5.
Thankfully Emery does not do 5 at the back either.
Mainly because we need defensive solidity and some pace out wide. The players we have with the best pace are our fullbacks.
And, all of what we've tried thus far has not delivered.
So with the team struggling defensively, introduce a completely different system? It takes a lot of time, planning and training to go to a back 5, doing it in 3 days is almost impossible. It is why teams rarely change to it and stick to it during the season. It also offers less in game flexibility than a back 4, where it is relatively straight forward to increase deployment / emphasis in defence, midfield or attack.
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Brentford's away from is poor but they've played tough sides away. Just having nightmares of their fleet attackers cutting through our midfield and defence.
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I wouldn't mind seeing maatsen playing attacking left in front of digne for this one. He played moreno there a few times, we desperately need some pace in the side
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Onana must have been made in the same glass factory as Ramsey and Kamara
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That’s the problem Tim. Doesn’t matter how good a player is if he’s injured for half of a season.
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Onana must have been made in the same glass factory as Ramsey and Kamara
Yep thats a good point tim. Say what you want about luiz and diaby but last season they rarely got injured. Esp luiz
His fitness record was excellent
For a big lad onanas fitness record is not the best
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Brentford have six players out. Onw being key player jensen. Thats some good news at least
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Compared to Ramsey he's like The Terminator. I love JJ, but by god he's missed a lot of football. The trouble is, we know how good he is when he's fit, so the manager and his team probably don't think about replacing him, but he really is made of absolute tissue paper. When he's injured, which he always is, we've literally got nobody to replace him. He seems to be injured, gets semi-fit, doesn't play that well because he's getting back to match fitness, then is injured again. Rinse and repeat.
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We’ve got to shake it up a bit both tactically and with players. Mings, Barkley, Maatsen and Duran need to start as well as Onana if fit.
Unfortunately we don’t have many options out wide so a re think from Emery would be good.
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We’ve got to shake it up a bit both tactically and with players. Mings, Barkley, Maatsen and Duran need to start as well as Onana if fit.
Unfortunately we don’t have many options out wide so a re think from Emery would be good.
There's no way he's making that many changes.
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If we stick with the same team, the first instruction needs to be: win the fucking 50/50s. Be aggressive and do not let, do NOT LET them bully us anywhere on the pitch. We have enough quality footballers to do the rest. Oh, and take the chances when they inevitably come along.
Do that and we might win then game despite having Olsen in goals.
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If we stick with the same team, the first instruction needs to be: win the fucking 50/50s. Be aggressive and do not let, do NOT LET them bully us anywhere on the pitch. We have enough quality footballers to do the rest. Oh, and take the chances when they inevitably come along.
Do that and we might win then game despite having Olsen in goals.
I read that back and imagined Steve Bruce saying it. To be clear, I don't think we can progress rolling wor sleeves up.
I do think we need to get back to wining tackles though.
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If we stick with the same team, the first instruction needs to be: win the fucking 50/50s. Be aggressive and do not let, do NOT LET them bully us anywhere on the pitch. We have enough quality footballers to do the rest. Oh, and take the chances when they inevitably come along.
Do that and we might win then game despite having Olsen in goals.
This is spot on for me
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We’ve got to shake it up a bit both tactically and with players. Mings, Barkley, Maatsen and Duran need to start as well as Onana if fit.
Unfortunately we don’t have many options out wide so a re think from Emery would be good.
I agree, we need a shake up of the starting XI, all of the above mentioned should start tomorrow night.
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Pair of geniuses
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We really need to start winning games or the season will be wasted. I'll go for a nervous 1-0.
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Problem being , some players can't help being bullied
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Loads of seats available still , Upper Trinity looks particularly bad
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Pair of geniuses
Isn't that a bit pointlessly snarky?
I don't really see what is so laughable in what they're suggesting?
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Pair of geniuses
Who are you referring to Corey? I thought I’d check before replying.
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Pair of geniuses
Who are you referring to Corey? I thought I’d check before replying.
Isn't it obvious.
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Pair of geniuses
Who are you referring to Corey? I thought I’d check before replying.
Isn't it obvious.
No, hence why I asked.
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-------- Olsen --------
Cash Konsa Mings Digne
--- Kamara - Tielemans
McGinn----------- Buendia
--- Watkins --- Bailey -----
Still pretty strong just need to fully protect Olsen , limited playing out from the back and a bit more old school tomorrow
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Olsen did OK Sunday I thought. No errors and couldn't do much about their goal
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Loads of seats available still , Upper Trinity looks particularly bad
Pay £72 for a ticket to sit on the cold, or watch it for free as part of my Amazon Prime subscription in my parents' lounge. Tough choice...
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Loads of seats available still , Upper Trinity looks particularly bad
Pay £72 for a ticket to sit on the cold, or watch it for free as part of my Amazon Prime subscription in my parents' lounge. Tough choice...
This is the first season since we came back up where demand has dropped and it isnt as difficult to get a ticket amymore.
Hecks done a tremendous job making fans want to go..
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Loads of seats available still , Upper Trinity looks particularly bad
Pay £72 for a ticket to sit on the cold, or watch it for free as part of my Amazon Prime subscription in my parents' lounge. Tough choice...
Say £35 I'd be tempted to get there after work through the traffic etc. This pricing is ridiculous and offensive to be honest .
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The kick-off time and the habitual incompetence of West Midlands politicians don't help. We should really kick off at a more sensible time, and leave the 8.15 starts to cities with a better functioning public transport system, like Mariupol.
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Loads of seats available still , Upper Trinity looks particularly bad
Pay £72 for a ticket to sit on the cold, or watch it for free as part of my Amazon Prime subscription in my parents' lounge. Tough choice...
I've just looked and i cant see too many £72 tickets. The average price seems to be around £50 which still makes the Amazon option more favourable though.
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GA+ from £125 upwards , good luck with that Chris
Corner flag is £230 to sit in the lower north . Ridiculous
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I've already paid and I'm struggling to summon up the energy to be arsed. I'll be fine once I have a couple of refereeing decisions to rant about.
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It looks like Olsen is in for tonight.
I think we need to get him to hoof the ball as he doesn't look confident with the ball at his feet.
It's going to be a nerve wracking night if we are still trying to play out from the back with him between the posts.
I feel sorry for those going to the game with those ridiculous ticket prices and amazingly late KO time.
The kick off time suits me here in W Australia though.
Picked a draw, anything less than 4 points from the next two games would be unacceptable really.
UTV
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Any Sao Paolo Villans meeting for this one?
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Just need a win. Not. Going to be pretty. Difficult to see what Uni will change with the lack of Onnana and Ramsey. Needs to freshen the team up and maybe a formation twerk. I would Watkins and Duran and play longer with Olsen in goal.
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Hopefully the fans that do bother to turn up tonight are rewarded with a winning performance.
Obviously judging by the comments on here about the attendance tonight, it was a good decision by the owners not to increase the stadium capacity.
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Stop being so fucking easy to play against please Villa. One of the most frustrating things is that teams don’t have to play particularly well to score against us.
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3-2 to Villa. Gotta believe!
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I really do not know why so many think the answer to the problem is to go to a Back 5.
Thankfully Emery does not do 5 at the back either.
Mainly because we need defensive solidity and some pace out wide. The players we have with the best pace are our fullbacks.
And, all of what we've tried thus far has not delivered.
So with the team struggling defensively, introduce a completely different system? It takes a lot of time, planning and training to go to a back 5, doing it in 3 days is almost impossible. It is why teams rarely change to it and stick to it during the season. It also offers less in game flexibility than a back 4, where it is relatively straight forward to increase deployment / emphasis in defence, midfield or attack.
We've been playing a back 3 on and off all season. Yes, it's the asymmetric-fullback version, but they will be practised in playing it in different ways; I'm sure. They have also played against teams that deploy the 3-5-2 set-up.
You say "a back 4, where it is relatively straight forward to increase deployment / emphasis in defence, midfield or attack": I'd say that 3-5-2 offers equally as much flexibility, particularly if you have the likes of Onana and Kamara in the middle.
Anyway, it's academic at the moment because Onana is still not available to play.
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-------- Olsen --------
Cash Konsa Mings Digne
--- Kamara - Tielemans
McGinn----------- Buendia
--- Watkins --- Bailey -----
Still pretty strong just need to fully protect Olsen , limited playing out from the back and a bit more old school tomorrow
Blimey, Buendia and Bailey in the same side and on the left. Good luck with that (FWIW, I'd like to see Bailey play wide on the left, as he did against Brentford 2 years' ago, but it is pretty unlikely based on all the games he's played for Emery).
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Good luck tonight you lions and everyone going.
Hopefully this horrendous run ends tonight
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Another option I was thinking was play Rogers further forward to play just off Watkins .
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Hopefully the fans that do bother to turn up tonight are rewarded with a winning performance.
Obviously judging by the comments on here about the attendance tonight, it was a good decision by the owners not to increase the stadium capacity.
To be fair, four home games in December (with two coming in the space of a week) is always going to be a bit of a tough sell.
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Hopefully the fans that do bother to turn up tonight are rewarded with a winning performance.
Obviously judging by the comments on here about the attendance tonight, it was a good decision by the owners not to increase the stadium capacity.
To be fair, four home games in December (with two coming in the space of a week) is always going to be a bit of a tough sell.
I'm still undecided, but Sid can fuck off with his snarking, I didn't ask for a full fixture list midweek in the 1st week of December, so they can flog games to Amazon whilst ripping me off at the same time, with a fucking 8:15 kick off.
And that's before you get to the traffic, the soul destroying mass of people to navigate your way into the North Stand, the roof leaking on my seat or the fact my seat shouldn't even be there as for the previous 45 years it had been a ledge between the last row and said roof.
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Olsen
Digne
Mings
Konsa
Cash
Maatsen
McGinn
Kamara
Bailey
Tielemans
Watkins
I think that strikes a balance between giving some players a rest and not making too many changes at once.
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I'd be worried if Emery thought we were at the stage where we need to play 2 left backs at home to Brentford.
I think it'll be a largely unchanged team, but Bailey starting instead of Philogene and Olsen for Martinez.
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Loads of seats available still , Upper Trinity looks particularly bad
Pay £72 for a ticket to sit on the cold, or watch it for free as part of my Amazon Prime subscription in my parents' lounge. Tough choice...
notice it starts 8.15 too. that 30 mins makes a massive difference for me getting back to leicester on the train, I even had a cancelled one a few weeks ago.
Id be disapointed not to see maatsen start tonight .
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An 8.15 KO means I will get home at 2.15. Up for work tomorrow at 6 and a half day today. 3 points will be most welcome....
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It means I'm almost certain to catch more lane closures on the M6 too.
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Night road closures for these midweek games are an absolute pain. At least now heading back into Wales there is very little traffic for the night games.
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Hopefully the fans that do bother to turn up tonight are rewarded with a winning performance.
Obviously judging by the comments on here about the attendance tonight, it was a good decision by the owners not to increase the stadium capacity.
To be fair, four home games in December (with two coming in the space of a week) is always going to be a bit of a tough sell.
I'm still undecided, but Sid can fuck off with his snarking, I didn't ask for a full fixture list midweek in the 1st week of December, so they can flog games to Amazon whilst ripping me off at the same time, with a fucking 8:15 kick off.
And that's before you get to the traffic, the soul destroying mass of people to navigate your way into the North Stand, the roof leaking on my seat or the fact my seat shouldn't even be there as for the previous 45 years it had been a ledge between the last row and said roof.
Tonight was always going to be one of the games that would suffer from the Champions League pricing too = if people are having to cut back attending games, then this is the one they'll avoid.
I've said it lots of times on here, but a good portion of the extra income we are getting by charging pisstake prices for the 'big' games is going to be lost in reduced attendances at other matches.
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COYVB's , win tonight, win Saturday and things will be a lot better looking
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If we win, it's possible, unlikely, we could be in 7th place tonight and everything will be hunky-dory.
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I'd love to win, the mood changes if we do. We're not a bad team, maybe a little low on confidence and unable to meaningfully change it up. As we've said before, the slowdown passing looks great when we're knocking on the door and in charge but when we're not in control it can invite mistakes, panic. I'd take losing if we just played well.
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I'd rather play badly and win . Winning games justifies everything . Playing well and losing sucks . Playing badly and losing also sucks .
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I'd rather play badly and win . Winning games justifies everything . Playing well and losing sucks . Playing badly and losing also sucks .
Agree with this tim. Dont care how bad we play as long as we win
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I'd rather play badly and win . Winning games justifies everything . Playing well and losing sucks . Playing badly and losing also sucks .
Agree with this tim. Dont care how bad we play as long as we win
Just Win - playing well would be a bonus but a win is whats needed
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I'd be worried if Emery thought we were at the stage where we need to play 2 left backs at home to Brentford.
I think it'll be a largely unchanged team, but Bailey starting instead of Philogene and Olsen for Martinez.
Maatsen offers some pace going forward so it’s not necessarily a defensive move but they are dangerous out wide so it’s a win win for me. I’d play him.
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Hopefully the fans that do bother to turn up tonight are rewarded with a winning performance.
Obviously judging by the comments on here about the attendance tonight, it was a good decision by the owners not to increase the stadium capacity.
To be fair, four home games in December (with two coming in the space of a week) is always going to be a bit of a tough sell.
I'm still undecided, but Sid can fuck off with his snarking, I didn't ask for a full fixture list midweek in the 1st week of December, so they can flog games to Amazon whilst ripping me off at the same time, with a fucking 8:15 kick off.
And that's before you get to the traffic, the soul destroying mass of people to navigate your way into the North Stand, the roof leaking on my seat or the fact my seat shouldn't even be there as for the previous 45 years it had been a ledge between the last row and said roof.
I sat up there for the Juve game, I didn’t realise they’d added that row but I overheard some bloke talking about it. I was next to the column as well so it was extra snug!
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I'd be worried if Emery thought we were at the stage where we need to play 2 left backs at home to Brentford.
I think it'll be a largely unchanged team, but Bailey starting instead of Philogene and Olsen for Martinez.
Maatsen offers some pace going forward so it’s not necessarily a defensive move but they are dangerous out wide so it’s a win win for me. I’d play him.
He came on there v Bayern wasn't it? And was piss poor from memory. Brentford are missing a load of players so we don't need a back 5.
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I have gone for a loss on the vote just because in all eventuality we will fuck this up tonight but hoping for a gritty win.
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Olsen in goal? I'd rather have Emi with his arm in a sling.
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Do we know for sure emis out?
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I'd be worried if Emery thought we were at the stage where we need to play 2 left backs at home to Brentford.
I think it'll be a largely unchanged team, but Bailey starting instead of Philogene and Olsen for Martinez.
Maatsen offers some pace going forward so it’s not necessarily a defensive move but they are dangerous out wide so it’s a win win for me. I’d play him.
He came on there v Bayern wasn't it? And was piss poor from memory. Brentford are missing a load of players so we don't need a back 5.
It’s a moot point as he probably won’t start but I’d put him left mid to offer us some pace from there, so it wouldn’t be 5 at the back. I’m sure he played in midfield for one of the clubs he was on loan at before Dortmund, different levels but not totally foreign for him.
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Olsen in goal? I'd rather have Emi with his arm in a sling.
Well, Olsen didn't pass the ball straight to an opposition striker, nor pick up a back pass after he came on. And he couldn't have done anything about the goal that went past him.
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Do we know for sure emis out?
Not definitely but looking that way I would think. With no one to marshal the defence in his absence it might be useful for Tyrone to drop into the middle with Konsa.
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Be interesting to see the actual attendance tonight .
Of 6 season tickets amongst my lot 4 ain't bothering & it looks like quite a few will be giving it a miss according to many on here & various other sites .
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Be interesting to see the actual attendance tonight .
Of 6 season tickets amongst my lot 4 ain't bothering & it looks like quite a few will be giving it a miss according to many on here & various other sites .
All fun and games until they restrict season tickets to those who attend every match in the future...
(I'm one of those not attending, so not a dig!)
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Hopefully the fans that do bother to turn up tonight are rewarded with a winning performance.
Obviously judging by the comments on here about the attendance tonight, it was a good decision by the owners not to increase the stadium capacity.
To be fair, four home games in December (with two coming in the space of a week) is always going to be a bit of a tough sell.
For people paying match day prices definitely and don’t forget they’ve also put the Celtic tickets out this week.
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Be interesting to see the actual attendance tonight .
Of 6 season tickets amongst my lot 4 ain't bothering & it looks like quite a few will be giving it a miss according to many on here & various other sites .
All fun and games until they restrict season tickets to those who attend every match in the future...
(I'm one of those not attending, so not a dig!)
And if they start doing that, they'll just alienate even more supporters
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Do we know for sure emis out?
Not definitely but looking that way I would think. With no one to marshal the defence in his absence it might be useful for Tyrone to drop into the middle with Konsa.
Yeah i would agree with that
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Hopefully the fans that do bother to turn up tonight are rewarded with a winning performance.
Obviously judging by the comments on here about the attendance tonight, it was a good decision by the owners not to increase the stadium capacity.
If they hadn't been such a bunch of twats with the prices and general fucking people about, a lot more people would be going.
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Hopefully the fans that do bother to turn up tonight are rewarded with a winning performance.
Obviously judging by the comments on here about the attendance tonight, it was a good decision by the owners not to increase the stadium capacity.
To be fair, four home games in December (with two coming in the space of a week) is always going to be a bit of a tough sell.
For people paying match day prices definitely and don’t forget they’ve also put the Celtic tickets out this week.
£94 to watch us play a pub team is an epic piss take
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Pair of geniuses
Who?
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Be interesting to see the actual attendance tonight .
Of 6 season tickets amongst my lot 4 ain't bothering & it looks like quite a few will be giving it a miss according to many on here & various other sites .
All fun and games until they restrict season tickets to those who attend every match in the future...
(I'm one of those not attending, so not a dig!)
Think Celtic tickets will have a big effect , that's what's stopped me tonight . Plus we've an FA cup game to find cash for now aswell £110ish to find this side of Christmas means giving tonight a miss for a start .
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Our boy hitzlsperger will be covering our game on sky tonight.
Will be fantastic to see him
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What the hells up with prime? Says villa game but its newcastle vs Liverpool
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They have all the games
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You just need to scroll a bit further,like in that social media you use all the time.... 😉
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You just need to scroll a bit further,like in that social media you use all the time.... 😉
Hahahah i have ive gone on the Villa- vs brentford and its now gone to city vs forest
Guessing our coverage hasnt started yet
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Tim Sherwood in the studio covering his expert field - managerial sackings
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Tim Sherwood in the studio covering his expert field - managerial sackings
Pretty funny tbf.
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Unchanged. 0-3 beckons
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Mings starts!!
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Martinez playing.
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Emi starts!!!!!
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Torres dropped
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Teflon Rogers