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Title: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: olaftab on September 17, 2023, 11:08:41 AM
Here we go:
Thursday 21 September 2023 KO 17.45 BST 18.45 CET
Marshall Józef Piłsudski's Municipal Stadium, Warsaw.

Legia had a difficult match yesterday. They were a man down at 42' and a goal down at 45' but still managed to come back and get a draw against Piast Gliwice. This team needs to be respected and I hope Unai will put up a very strong line up against them.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Axl Rose on September 17, 2023, 11:26:25 AM
2-1 Villa
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: wittonwarrior on September 17, 2023, 11:30:08 AM
We're struggle - having problems with Plan A at the moment.   Too many injuries etc.  lose or draw at best.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: London Villan on September 17, 2023, 11:39:51 AM
Need to start with a positive result - a draw wouldn't be the end of the world, but you'd hope we'd have enough to beat them. Also need to have an eye on the game at the weekend too.

Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Clampy on September 17, 2023, 11:48:49 AM
Agree with a London Villian in regards to the team. We need to go as full strength as possible but maybe leaving out a couple who he can bring back in a couple of days later.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: ChicagoLion on September 17, 2023, 11:55:15 AM
It’s going to be a lot about rotation over the coming weeks.
Sunday is the priority.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 17, 2023, 12:30:40 PM
Easy win, 3-1 to the Villa.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 17, 2023, 12:38:22 PM
Would hope players like Tielemans and Duran get to start.

Maybe a chance for some players coming back from injury, such as Diego Carlos and Moreno to play.

Think Emery will pick a strong lineup.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: AV82EC on September 17, 2023, 12:39:19 PM
It'll be hostile but we'll have enough to win. Also we need to win to start our "getting a better club coefficient score" and you get more money for a win over a draw. Also we need to win the Group so no fucking about please and giving Alkmaar any sniff that we might be taking it easy.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 17, 2023, 12:55:00 PM
We're struggle - having problems with Plan A at the moment.   Too many injuries etc.  lose or draw at best.


Really? Lose or draw “at best”?
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 17, 2023, 01:07:37 PM
They'll be up for it, and I think it's over a year since they lost at home. I'd be good with a draw, but we should have enough to win.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: darren woolley on September 17, 2023, 01:12:21 PM
I reckon we will get a 2-1 win.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: AV84 on September 17, 2023, 01:14:18 PM
I wonder if Moreno will make his comeback here or is it a bit of a rough opponent to be easing him back in against? Maybe Digne will play again and then Moreno comes back in for Chelsea.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: olaftab on September 17, 2023, 03:58:23 PM
It’s going to be a lot about rotation over the coming weeks.
Sunday is the priority.
Errr…No.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Smirker on September 17, 2023, 05:07:25 PM
We're struggle - having problems with Plan A at the moment.   Too many injuries etc.  lose or draw at best.


Really? Lose or draw “at best”?

😂 Agree mate.

4 or 5 to us. 1 to them.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Ads on September 17, 2023, 07:15:12 PM
I'd go with;

Emi

Cash
Konsa
Torres
Dinge (Moreno to get some minutes though)

Zaniolo
Donk
Tielemans
Baily

Diaby
Duran
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Bad English on September 17, 2023, 07:17:50 PM
Jebać skurwielów! 1-3

Jeśli czytają jacyś polscy fani, to tylko wieloletni żart na tej stronie. Naprawdę Cię szanujemy
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Flamingo Lane on September 17, 2023, 07:29:13 PM
I'd go with;

Emi

Cash
Konsa
Torres
Dinge (Moreno to get some minutes though)


Donk
Tielemans
Baily

Diaby
Duran

Not taking this competition too seriously then?
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Nev on September 17, 2023, 07:30:22 PM
With respect to Hibs this feels more like the real thing after all these years. Glad we're away first, takes a bit of pressure off although the pressure is definitely on the squad and the Manager, but this is what he xane fir and I think he'll revel in it.

0-1
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Richard E on September 17, 2023, 07:37:12 PM
Jebać skurwielów! 1-3

Jeśli czytają jacyś polscy fani, to tylko wieloletni żart na tej stronie. Naprawdę Cię szanujemy
Randomly, the only Polish phrase I know is:-

Proletariusze wszystkich krajów, łączcie się!
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Bad English on September 17, 2023, 07:46:27 PM
I know about 3 words in Polish.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 17, 2023, 07:53:29 PM
I think Emery will go full strength in this one. Whatever that is now.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: N'ZMAV on September 17, 2023, 07:54:12 PM
I'd go with;

Emi

Cash
Konsa
Torres
Dinge (Moreno to get some minutes though)


Donk
Tielemans
Baily

Diaby
Duran
11 players makes more sense.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: N'ZMAV on September 17, 2023, 07:55:20 PM
I'd go

Martinez

Chambers
Konsa
Torres
Digne

Bailey
Tielemens
Donk
Zaniolo

Diaby
Duran
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Legion on September 17, 2023, 07:57:35 PM
I'd go with;

Emi

Cash
Konsa
Torres
Dinge (Moreno to get some minutes though)


Donk
Tielemans
Baily

Diaby
Duran

You're confident with an interesting starting X.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Legion on September 17, 2023, 07:57:47 PM
2-0.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on September 17, 2023, 08:05:52 PM
Our only previous game in Poland was Gornik in 1977. Won at home 2-0 and then drew 1-1 over there.
Some very grainy footage here with Andy Gray scoring.



The team was Rimmer, Gidman, Phillips, McNaught, Smith, Cropley, Mortimer, Deehan, Gray, Little, Carrodus.


(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq226/kennythelad/Villa001.jpg)



Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Skerra on September 17, 2023, 09:59:07 PM
Smirker, 4 or 5 to us and 1 to them. You’ll be telling us next that Watkins will score!!😂
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: CT Villan on September 17, 2023, 10:07:30 PM
I play footie with a Polish team occasionally and I wish I had a dollar for every time I hear "Kurwa" screamed at the top of their lungs.

It will be a cagey affair and we'll win by a single goal scored by Moussa D.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Somniloquism on September 17, 2023, 10:22:34 PM
Emery will play kids and lower choice squad members as we need to look at the league and we have a winnable match against Stoke the following weekend........
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Ads on September 17, 2023, 11:46:40 PM
I had Zaniolo as the 2nd striker then dropped Diaby in there and forgot to pop him on the left. Updated.

Think we could do with Watkins, Dougie, Kamara and McGinn 100% rested for pressing duties comes Sunday. Felt Bournemouth bullied them physically today and hurried them a lot.

We have a strong squad, pair of Belgian internationals coming into the middle and Benteke Jnr up top is a handful.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Pat McMahon on September 18, 2023, 12:25:58 AM
I know about 3 words in Polish.

I’ve learned about 6 tonight but will forget them all in my sleep. Krakow is great by the way
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Axl Rose on September 18, 2023, 12:58:46 AM
I know about 3 words in Polish.

I’ve learned about 6 tonight but will forget them all in my sleep. Krakow is great by the way

When teaching there, I for some reason said, 'super duper' in a classroom full of women. It all went a bit silent, before they started giggling. Apparently what I'd said sounded like 'nice arse / fanny'.. :-\
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 18, 2023, 09:51:33 AM
I know about 3 words in Polish.

I’ve learned about 6 tonight but will forget them all in my sleep. Krakow is great by the way

Those are all English words!
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Drummond on September 18, 2023, 10:20:42 AM
I think there will be no more than a goal in it, and a draw is likely.

We'll make a few changes, and Duran will thrive in the atmosphere, though he'll defo get a yellow card.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: AV84 on September 18, 2023, 10:27:26 AM
Maybe I'm being overly cautious but I still wonder if we can trust Durán to play a full game of football, both physically and maybe attitude wise? I suppose he's done what we needed him to do so far this season, but can he do all the other stuff that Watkins usually does for a full 90 minutes? Or even say 65/70? Especially if we're behind and chasing the game. Is a match like this the time to test that?

Then again, I suppose he'll have to be tested at some point, and Watkins will need a rest at some point, so why not now.

Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Lsvilla on September 18, 2023, 10:37:06 AM
Maybe I'm being overly cautious but I still wonder if we can trust Durán to play a full game of football, both physically and maybe attitude wise? I suppose he's done what we needed him to do so far this season, but can he do all the other stuff that Watkins usually does for a full 90 minutes? Or even say 65/70? Especially if we're behind and chasing the game. Is a match like this the time to test that?

Then again, I suppose he'll have to be tested at some point, and Watkins will need a rest at some point, so why not now.


These mirror my concerns. I think Everton the following week would be a better time to test him. I'd start with Ollie.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: paul_e on September 18, 2023, 10:59:15 AM
I'd say we have to show some trust in him, he's played about 150minutes this season and got 3 goals and has roughed up a few defenders as well.

I suspect Legia will come into this game wanting to be very physical and get the crowd right behind them, Duran is a good counter to that and I think it's exactly the sort of game that he's suited for.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: LeeB on September 18, 2023, 11:07:00 AM
And he will be buzzing after the weekend, and more generally how it's going for him all round. He's absolutely making a mark with the opportunities presented to him, give him an hour to rough them up and cause general mayhem and then stick Ollie on to hopefully tap one or two in to boost his confidence.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Pete3206 on September 18, 2023, 11:22:25 AM
Sunday is the priority.

Yeah, no
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: OCD on September 18, 2023, 11:24:23 AM
Going by the team named for the Hibs away game and Emery's comments about respecting the competition, I think we'll name a strong team. We do have to start using the squad though and using some rotation. I think Watkins and Tielemans will start.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 18, 2023, 11:40:01 AM
It’s going to be a lot about rotation over the coming weeks.
Sunday is the priority.
absolutely spot on . EPL far more important.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 18, 2023, 11:43:40 AM
Olsen

Cash
Longlet
Chambers
Moreno

Tielemans
Kellyman
Luiz
McGinn

Duran
Bailey
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: frank black on September 18, 2023, 11:45:18 AM
The premier league should be our priority, but I suspect we’ll go with a decent team for this… tricky though

I reckon 1-1

Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Bad English on September 18, 2023, 11:49:47 AM
I know about 3 words in Polish.

I’ve learned about 6 tonight but will forget them all in my sleep. Krakow is great by the way
Two of my words are "Andrzej Szarmach", whom I saw at the Abbé Deschamps stadium, playing for AJ Auxerre, back in 1982.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 18, 2023, 11:50:43 AM
The premier league should be our priority, but I suspect we’ll go with a decent team for this… tricky though

I reckon 1-1
i think he will go strong and make lots of changes on 60 mins etc.
This season is all about making full use of the squad
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: AV84 on September 18, 2023, 11:53:05 AM
The premier league should be our priority, but I suspect we’ll go with a decent team for this… tricky though

I reckon 1-1

Realistically what's the best we can achieve this season in the Prem? I think Champions League is still a bit of a stretch (unless that 5th spot comes in), so comfortably getting Europa League would be a realistic and progressive achievement. We can also qualify for that by winning the Conference, or a domestic cup, so taking all of that into consideration.... I'm not sure prioritising one competition is necessary. More that we should have a goal of being in Europe again next season, preferably in the next competition up, and approach everything with that in mind.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Rigadon on September 18, 2023, 11:58:25 AM
The premier league should be our priority, but I suspect we’ll go with a decent team for this… tricky though

I reckon 1-1

Realistically what's the best we can achieve this season in the Prem? I think Champions League is still a bit of a stretch (unless that 5th spot comes in), so comfortably getting Europa League would be a realistic and progressive achievement. We can also qualify for that by winning the Conference, or a domestic cup, so taking all of that into consideration.... I'm not sure prioritising one competition is necessary. More that we should have a goal of being in Europe again next season, preferably in the next competition up, and approach everything with that in mind.

It's an interesting one...  Would you rather win the conference league or make it into the CL.  It almost certainly won't be binary like that anyway and I hope we give both a really good go this season. 
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: AV84 on September 18, 2023, 12:19:40 PM


It's an interesting one...  Would you rather win the conference league or make it into the CL.  It almost certainly won't be binary like that anyway and I hope we give both a really good go this season.

Yeah, obviously if we knew in advance we were going to be knocked out in the group stages then we could say now F it, let's prioritise the league, but I think as long as we're in any competition we should just be treating them all with the same importance. Maybe come Jan if we're still in Europe and competing at the top of the table, we could look at the domestic cups and talk about priorities then, but this early into things I don't think we need to be writing anything off.

Obviously players need rest, but that doesn't have to mean sending out a "second string" side.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Pete3206 on September 18, 2023, 12:20:23 PM
I would rather win a trophy than finish 4th. I know the reality for clubs is the land of milk and honey in the CL, but it's been far too long without silverware for my liking.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: LeeB on September 18, 2023, 12:22:39 PM
I would rather win a trophy than finish 4th. I know the reality for clubs is the land of milk and honey in the CL, but it's been far too long without silverware for my liking.

I agree, although I don't see why we can't do both.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: AV84 on September 18, 2023, 12:36:18 PM
I would rather win a trophy than finish 4th. I know the reality for clubs is the land of milk and honey in the CL, but it's been far too long without silverware for my liking.

We could finish 4th and get Champions League but still be sat here in 5 years time having won nothing. Spurs mostly had Champions League for the last decade, and what do they have to show for it, other than a shiny new stadium. So I'm of the same way of thinking. I'd rather win something this year, than "just" have Champions League next year.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Nelly on September 18, 2023, 12:45:29 PM
I'd rather win a trophy too. It's been so, so long now. We've been close on a few occasions in recent years but only we remember that. I'd love to see us winning cups again.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 18, 2023, 12:54:33 PM
I'd start Duran in this one, he's full of confidence at the moment, whereas Watkins is not.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: paul_e on September 18, 2023, 12:55:11 PM
I'd rather win a trophy but I think it's undeniable that getting into the champions league for a few seasons in a row would make it much easier for us to win something. Money is so important in modern football that until you're talking semi-final stages the league does have to take precedence.

That said I think the idea of playing the full strength best XI in the league and weaker sides in the cups is flawed. What we really want is a core of 18-20 players who make up the backbone of the team and play in different combinations, etc. That how teams like Man City approach things (other than the early league cup games) where instead of wholesale changes the team alters by a few players game-to-game so everyone gets regular rests and regular gametime.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 18, 2023, 12:55:41 PM
Also, I'd rather win this trophy in particular than finish 4th and potless.

I like the idea of having won two European trophies rather than just the one.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 18, 2023, 12:56:10 PM
Or, Watkins needs a boost of confidence and this might help him if he can grab a goal. But certainly, I don’t think anyone would be annoyed to see Duran start. Other than Ollie that is.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: frank black on September 18, 2023, 12:56:19 PM
My personal priority order:

FA cup

Finish top 4

League cup

Conference league
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 18, 2023, 01:20:50 PM
Also, I'd rather win this trophy in particular than finish 4th and potless.

I like the idea of having won two European trophies rather than just the one.

Same here, win the Conference League and finish 5th will do for me.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: OCD on September 18, 2023, 01:29:07 PM
Getting Champions League doesn't just give you financial reward. It helps you to attract players that you otherwise couldn't get.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Brend'Watkins on September 18, 2023, 01:38:12 PM
Getting Champions League doesn't just give you financial reward. It helps you to attract players that you otherwise couldn't get.

Equally, keeping the ones you need to keep. Martinez, Luiz, Kamara in particular.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: LeeB on September 18, 2023, 01:55:13 PM
I think we need to be in or very close to the Champions League, Europa League at least, to be keeping hold of everyone on our terms.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Ads on September 18, 2023, 02:01:16 PM
Winning this trophy and having memories of Athens that I'll clutch till my last breath is the most important.

It's not an either or though; 5th and European glory await. Fate is inexorable.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: dicedlam on September 18, 2023, 02:02:39 PM
Getting Champions League doesn't just give you financial reward. It helps you to attract players that you otherwise couldn't get.

Equally, keeping the ones you need to keep. Martinez, Luiz, Kamara in particular.
I would also add Diaby to that list too.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: AV84 on September 18, 2023, 02:17:01 PM
I guess anything that feels like an improvement on last year and is progression would be acceptable. Whatever form that takes.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: 85kota on September 18, 2023, 02:19:12 PM
I guess anything that feels like an improvement on last year and is progression would be acceptable. Whatever form that takes.

You'll have to accept whatever happens, and be charged more for it along the way.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 18, 2023, 03:14:56 PM
i don't think Duran is anywhere near ready to be starting games. Especially in Europe away where his temperament could be exploited
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: brontebilly on September 18, 2023, 03:39:27 PM
i don't think Duran is anywhere near ready to be starting games. Especially in Europe away where his temperament could be exploited

Only one way to find out...Give him the hour or so and bring on Watkins then

-------Martinez
Cash, Chambers, Carlos (if fit)/Torres, Moreno
Donk, Tielemans
---------Zaniolo
Traore, Duran, Bailey

The above team would require a lot from the Donk.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: London Villan on September 18, 2023, 03:57:15 PM
Champions League will give us the chance (and only a chance) of keeping our best players longer term. Emi will want to play and compete at the very top club level - a couple of others could be good enough to do that too (Luiz, Kamara (on last season's form) and Diaby).

Winning the league cup will be brilliant for us as fans and more of us would be able to experience it - but from the top players' perspective, it means very little to them.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Clark W Griswold on September 18, 2023, 03:57:24 PM
i don't think Duran is anywhere near ready to be starting games. Especially in Europe away where his temperament could be exploited

He started against Hibs and scored after, what was it, 15 mins.

I do think that he still probably needs to be an impact sub for the most part, but playing Watkins in every game (which apparently Watkins wants), is a bit much, we need to use the squad. I'm a lot more confident in Duran now than at the start of the season, and against some of these weaker European teams it's a good way to find his feet. I'd be starting him, if not this time then next.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Mister E on September 18, 2023, 03:59:43 PM
i think he will go strong...
...

... and yet you say:



Olsen

Cash
Longlet
Chambers
Moreno

Tielemans
Kellyman
Luiz
McGinn

Duran
Bailey
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: AV84 on September 18, 2023, 04:05:18 PM
Winning the league cup will be brilliant for us as fans and more of us would be able to experience it - but from the top players' perspective, it means very little to them.

I think that depends on the player. Not to keep using Spurs as an example but Kane had played multiple times in the Champions League, but he still left to win a trophy. I'm sure it would have meant the world to him to win one at Spurs. (Then again I suppose you could argue he would have left Spurs much sooner if they hasn't consistently had European football)
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 18, 2023, 04:08:34 PM
i don't think Duran is anywhere near ready to be starting games. Especially in Europe away where his temperament could be exploited

He started against Hibs and scored after, what was it, 15 mins.

I do think that he still probably needs to be an impact sub for the most part, but playing Watkins in every game (which apparently Watkins wants), is a bit much, we need to use the squad. I'm a lot more confident in Duran now than at the start of the season, and against some of these weaker European teams it's a good way to find his feet. I'd be starting him, if not this time then next.
Hibs and Legia are different levels
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 18, 2023, 04:09:32 PM
i think he will go strong...
...

... and yet you say:



Olsen

Cash
Longlet
Chambers
Moreno

Tielemans
Kellyman
Luiz
McGinn

Duran
Bailey
thats the team i'd pick. But i think Emery will go strong . I'd have more focus on Sunday personally
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Clark W Griswold on September 18, 2023, 04:10:44 PM
i don't think Duran is anywhere near ready to be starting games. Especially in Europe away where his temperament could be exploited

He started against Hibs and scored after, what was it, 15 mins.

I do think that he still probably needs to be an impact sub for the most part, but playing Watkins in every game (which apparently Watkins wants), is a bit much, we need to use the squad. I'm a lot more confident in Duran now than at the start of the season, and against some of these weaker European teams it's a good way to find his feet. I'd be starting him, if not this time then next.
Hibs and Legia are different levels

What about Palace and Legia? OK he didn't start but your saw the goal, right?

Anyway, i'm confused. It looks like you'd picked him anyway from that team above.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: AV84 on September 18, 2023, 04:11:06 PM
If we're resting Watkins I'd rather he started and was taken off as early as possible based on how the game is going. Seems a better idea to have Durán come on and close out a game than be subbed off if we're losing.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 18, 2023, 04:41:16 PM
i don't think Duran is anywhere near ready to be starting games. Especially in Europe away where his temperament could be exploited

He started against Hibs and scored after, what was it, 15 mins.

I do think that he still probably needs to be an impact sub for the most part, but playing Watkins in every game (which apparently Watkins wants), is a bit much, we need to use the squad. I'm a lot more confident in Duran now than at the start of the season, and against some of these weaker European teams it's a good way to find his feet. I'd be starting him, if not this time then next.
Hibs and Legia are different levels

What about Palace and Legia? OK he didn't start but your saw the goal, right?

Anyway, i'm confused. It looks like you'd picked him anyway from that team above.
i'd say Palace are miles ahead of Legia
Watkins needs dropping. Our only other 9 is Duran so he would play but he would not be my choice if there were options but there aren't
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: ez on September 18, 2023, 04:46:20 PM
My personal priority order:

FA cup

Finish top 4

League cup

Conference league

Same here. I'm actually struggling to get excited about the conference league. Maybe it's because I'm an older fan who saw us win the biggie in 1982 and saw us compete in the Uefa Cup in the 1990s. I'm happy for the young fans for who playing in Europe is a new thing but for me it's on a level with the intertoto Cup.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 18, 2023, 04:49:48 PM
My personal priority order:

FA cup

Finish top 4

League cup

Conference league

Same here. I'm actually struggling to get excited about the conference league. Maybe it's because I'm an older fan who saw us win the biggie in 1982 and saw us compete in the Uefa Cup in the 1990s. I'm happy for the young fans for who playing in Europe is a new thing but for me it's on a level with the intertoto Cup.
Ditto. It is what it is a 3rd tier UEFA competition primarily designed for lower ranking nations
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Smirker on September 18, 2023, 04:51:25 PM
My personal priority order:

FA cup

Finish top 4

League cup

Conference league

Conference League is better than League Cup surely.

Both 3rd tier competitors but the former being European edges it imo.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: frank black on September 18, 2023, 04:52:51 PM
My personal priority order:

FA cup

Finish top 4

League cup

Conference league

Conference League is better than League Cup surely.

Both 3rd tier competitors but the former being European edges it imo.

It’s close, but at least I’d get a ticket for the league cup final 😂
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 18, 2023, 04:55:29 PM
There's surely way more prestige in the Conference league. League Cup, whilst I'd like to win it, is of ever decreasing value. As, let's be honest, is the FA Cup.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: frank black on September 18, 2023, 04:55:35 PM
My personal priority order:

FA cup

Finish top 4

League cup

Conference league

Same here. I'm actually struggling to get excited about the conference league. Maybe it's because I'm an older fan who saw us win the biggie in 1982 and saw us compete in the Uefa Cup in the 1990s. I'm happy for the young fans for who playing in Europe is a new thing but for me it's on a level with the intertoto Cup.

Yep, my lads so excited about it. But to me it is the reincarnation of the intertwobob.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 18, 2023, 04:57:30 PM
My personal priority order:

FA cup

Finish top 4

League cup

Conference league

Conference League is better than League Cup surely.

Both 3rd tier competitors but the former being European edges it imo.
League Cup far bigger than Conf. The likes of Arsenal and Ci£y play in one and not the other
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 18, 2023, 04:58:19 PM
My personal priority order:

FA cup

Finish top 4

League cup

Conference league

Same here. I'm actually struggling to get excited about the conference league. Maybe it's because I'm an older fan who saw us win the biggie in 1982 and saw us compete in the Uefa Cup in the 1990s. I'm happy for the young fans for who playing in Europe is a new thing but for me it's on a level with the intertoto Cup.

Yep, my lads so excited about it. But to me it is the reincarnation of the intertwobob.
Yep Intertoto Mk II
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: frank black on September 18, 2023, 04:58:23 PM
There's surely way more prestige in the Conference league. League Cup, whilst I'd like to win it, is of ever decreasing value. As, let's be honest, is the FA Cup.

Outside of West Ham I can’t see any significant prestige in it. Don’t get me wrong it’s nice to win a cup, but looking at the teams in it, I’d say it’s much harder to win the league cup.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 18, 2023, 04:58:28 PM
Growing up there was 3 European competitions, and the UEFA Cup was generally classed as the lowest of the 3, even though I always thought the CWC was. People loved being in the lowest of the 3 competitions back then, so may as well enjoy it now as well.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Bully2345 on September 18, 2023, 05:03:52 PM
We've come a long way to be playing any flavour of Europe so I'm not going to be sniffy about being in the wrong tournament. It beats QPR on a Tuesday night
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 18, 2023, 05:05:41 PM
We've come a long way to be playing any flavour of Europe so I'm not going to be sniffy about being in the wrong tournament. It beats QPR on a Tuesday night
does it ?
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: LeeB on September 18, 2023, 05:07:01 PM
Yes, it absolutely does.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 18, 2023, 05:07:02 PM
We only need to start saying #levels and some will have gone full Wolves from a few years ago after we've had two thirds of a good season.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2023, 05:10:44 PM
There's surely way more prestige in the Conference league. League Cup, whilst I'd like to win it, is of ever decreasing value. As, let's be honest, is the FA Cup.

Though I think that us not winning it for so long maybe makes it mean loads for us. If we won it this year I'd lose my actual nut.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 18, 2023, 05:11:19 PM
We've come a long way to be playing any flavour of Europe so I'm not going to be sniffy about being in the wrong tournament. It beats QPR on a Tuesday night
does it ?

5 years ago today we were playing Rotherham in the Championship in front of less than 28k. A couple of weeks away from Preston and the cabbage, also in front of less than 28k. I'll take Conference matches over that shit any day of the week.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: N'ZMAV on September 18, 2023, 05:12:41 PM
Thursday & Sunday football beats the routine of Saturday & Tuesday
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: AV84 on September 18, 2023, 05:13:01 PM
I get why people think it's a micky mouse league or whatever but we've got 2 decent teams in our group, and there's some decent teams in the other groups too. So if we were to win it it's quite likely we'd have to beat some decent sides to do it. So there's still pride to be taken in that, for me anyway. Knock out games against Fenerbahçe or Fiorentina would be as exciting as any other games we've played over the last few seasons.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 18, 2023, 05:16:40 PM
Winning the League Cup gets you Europa League , of course it will be much harder than winning the Conf as we'd have the likes of Newcastle and Liverpool aswell as Ci£y and Arsenal in the mix.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 18, 2023, 05:19:50 PM
Winning the League Cup gets you Europa League , of course it will be much harder than winning the Conf as we'd have the likes of Newcastle and Liverpool aswell as Ci£y and Arsenal in the mix.

It gets you the Conference. Man Utd winning it last season but qualifying for the CL via the league is the very reason we're in it.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Small Rodent on September 18, 2023, 05:44:39 PM
We should be winning this by a few goals.

I go for 3 or more to nil.

Legia are not good but as in all games need to be respected.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 18, 2023, 06:02:00 PM
Winning the League Cup gets you Europa League , of course it will be much harder than winning the Conf as we'd have the likes of Newcastle and Liverpool aswell as Ci£y and Arsenal in the mix.

It gets you the Conference. Man Utd winning it last season but qualifying for the CL via the league is the very reason we're in it.
League Cup win gets you Europa League doesn't it ?
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 18, 2023, 06:05:35 PM
No. Not since 20/21.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Lastfootstamper on September 18, 2023, 06:05:44 PM
No, Conference. FA Cup & 1 league place for League.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: eamonn on September 18, 2023, 06:05:45 PM
Thursday & Sunday football beats the routine of Saturday & Tuesday

I go out on Friday night and I come home on Saturday morning.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: AV82EC on September 18, 2023, 06:24:30 PM
Anyone bemoaning being in the Europa Conference League really needs to have a word with themselves. It is the 3rd Level of Euro comps but we’re in it and there’s a couple of hundred other clubs across Europe who’d give their eye teeth for the opportunity. As for comparing it to the Intertoto which was a two bob pre season qualifier for the UEFA Cup, people really need to get a grip. It’s definitively on a par with the old Cup Winners Cup in my view.

Also when did it become a thing to decry any trophy? When I started supporting Villa we were the 4th most decorated club in the country, now we’re Sixth and have been overtaken by the nouveau-riche oil state vassal and a pillaged Russian West London mafia money laundering operation. All those clubs and the big 3 red clubs all count every trophy no matter how minor. It’s not beneath Aston Villa to think the same way and I look forward to Unai and his team hopefully getting the trophy count ticking forward again at some point. After all for a club like ours surely we’re one of the clubs who should be in the conversation for trophies, no?

I must admit certain peoples dismal doomongering about this competition is getting right on my wick.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Small Rodent on September 18, 2023, 06:30:46 PM
As for comparing it to the Intertoto which was a two bob pre season qualifier for the UEFA Cup, people really need to get a grip.

I must admit certain peoples dismal doomongering about this competition is getting right on my wick.

Well said. Yeah it’s a load of bollocks.

Probably a generational/age thing.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 18, 2023, 06:35:24 PM
As for comparing it to the Intertoto which was a two bob pre season qualifier for the UEFA Cup, people really need to get a grip.

I must admit certain peoples dismal doomongering about this competition is getting right on my wick.

Well said. Yeah it’s a load of bollocks.

Agreed, it's the same sort of nonsense I've seen on SHA about it since we qualified for Europe.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 18, 2023, 07:00:16 PM
Luiz deserves a rest (tielemans). Chambers for Cash.

Other than that I’d go pretty much full strength but early swaps for Digne/moreno and Watkins/Duran.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 18, 2023, 07:01:14 PM
We haven't won a trophy for 27 years, the second longest run in our history. We've just gone 12 years without European football, our longest run since we first qualified for it nearly 50 years ago. We've spent over a decade being shit. Not just shit, but setting a number of club records for shitness levels of shit. We've endured years of watching the shite served up by McLeish, Lambert, Sherwood, Garde, RDM, Bruce, Gerrard where it felt that winning 6 home games and not being relegated was a good season. And then the regular early cup exits to lower league clubs or the reserves of decent sides.

It may be the 3rd ranked of the European trophies but was so was the UEFA Cup for years and I loved us in that, wanted us to win it and the Conference is no different. That anyone would think after the levels of shit we've had that the thought of winning the Conference is below us or not worthy of much more than indifference baffles me.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 18, 2023, 07:02:19 PM
I always had the CWC as the third ranked in the past.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 18, 2023, 07:04:29 PM
I always had the CWC as the third ranked in the past.

If you qualified for both back in the day you went into the CWC as it was the higher ranked competition. It's why we wanted Man Utd and then Chelsea to win cups in the past so as we got a UEFA Cup spot.

I always felt the UEFA was a lot harder to win than the CWC, but it was ranked lower than the CWC.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Flamingo Lane on September 18, 2023, 08:03:50 PM
The UEFA Cup also culminated in a home and away leg final, unlike the other two.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 18, 2023, 08:42:32 PM
Always respected anyone from England who made the CWC as you had to win a trophy to get there .
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 18, 2023, 08:50:49 PM
Or lose the final depending on opponents. Like Millwall, who got into Europe despite not beating a single top flight side.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 18, 2023, 09:19:06 PM
Or lose the final depending on opponents. Like Millwall, who got into Europe despite not beating a single top flight side.
True but that was fairly unusual
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Small Rodent on September 18, 2023, 09:36:41 PM
CWC was easier than UEFA cup in the old days. Back when there were cup shocks, teams with no sniff of UEFA won the FA Cup.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 18, 2023, 11:04:38 PM
I always had the CWC as the third ranked in the past.

If you qualified for both back in the day you went into the CWC as it was the higher ranked competition. It's why we wanted Man Utd and then Chelsea to win cups in the past so as we got a UEFA Cup spot.

I always felt the UEFA was a lot harder to win than the CWC, but it was ranked lower than the CWC.

I always had the UEFA Cup as much harder to win as well, from the mid-70s to mid-90s it was mainly 'big' teams that won it*

*apart from the "League Champions" Ipswich in 1981.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 18, 2023, 11:31:51 PM
Remember Big Ron saying the UEFA Cup was harder to win in many ways than the European Cup back then as the up and coming teams were in the one and teams who had already peaked in the other . Kind of correct to a degree.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Ads on September 18, 2023, 11:39:38 PM
I cant remember the last time I was this excited for a game and getting away. This is a great chance to make memories and crucially win some silverware.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: not3bad on September 19, 2023, 12:07:45 AM
I feel positive about this as well. We're all going on a European tour! Looking forward to seeing the lineup and I think Emery will go strong.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: wince on September 19, 2023, 07:55:17 AM
The premier league should be our priority, but I suspect we’ll go with a decent team for this… tricky though

I reckon 1-1
Why? No chance of winning the league and if we are in top 6 we get chance of Europe……don’t mean to single your post out but I’m baffled as to why we bother qualifying if we are just wanting league position. It’s not like we are relegation fodder.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: frank black on September 19, 2023, 08:18:19 AM
The premier league should be our priority, but I suspect we’ll go with a decent team for this… tricky though

I reckon 1-1
Why? No chance of winning the league and if we are in top 6 we get chance of Europe……don’t mean to single your post out but I’m baffled as to why we bother qualifying if we are just wanting league position. It’s not like we are relegation fodder.

No worries, Id just prefer us to have good go at finishing higher than last season. Ideally we win the conference and finish top 6/7. Ultimately if we are going to progress, it’ll be the PL that matters. Players won’t hang about if we finish halfway and get knocked out the conference in the semifinals. It’s a nice distraction, but our squad isn’t big enough IMO.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Clampy on September 19, 2023, 08:24:25 AM
The premier league should be our priority, but I suspect we’ll go with a decent team for this… tricky though

I reckon 1-1
Why? No chance of winning the league and if we are in top 6 we get chance of Europe……don’t mean to single your post out but I’m baffled as to why we bother qualifying if we are just wanting league position. It’s not like we are relegation fodder.

To be fair, I think Emery himself has said the league is priority but he'll no doubt be taking this seriously, he loves his teams  playing in Europe
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: wince on September 19, 2023, 08:26:58 AM
Just be nice to win something! Been too long
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: rob_bridge on September 19, 2023, 08:40:32 AM
Leggie Warmers 1.3 Villa
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: KevinGage on September 19, 2023, 08:57:06 AM
As a neutral, I could watch the West Ham v Fiorentina final last year or the Roma v Feyenoord game the season before. Both felt like an occasion.  I've had little interest in recent League Cup finals if Villa aren't in it.

Even if you get favourable draws in the latter, you eventually run into Citeh or one of the other petrodollar spunk bubbles in the SF or final. The ECL is in its infancy but still has the capacity to throw up more compelling ties.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Risso on September 19, 2023, 09:48:25 AM
Is Carlos going to be back for this?

If so I'd go:

Martinez

Konsa Carlos Torres Digne

Bailey Tielemans Luiz McGinn Zaniolo

Duran
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 19, 2023, 10:18:42 AM
I’d play Moreno.

Good way to reintroduce him.

Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Risso on September 19, 2023, 10:20:57 AM
Is he fit enough to be starting do you think?
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 19, 2023, 10:40:57 AM
He was on the bench at the weekend, wasn't he? Got to play at some point.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Risso on September 19, 2023, 10:43:18 AM
He was on the bench at the weekend, wasn't he? Got to play at some point.

I'm not sure under Emery that always means they're fit to play. Carlos was on the bench for ages and I strongly think he was nowhere near ready. I think Emery values getting them back into the squad for re-integration purposes, and anyway, we don't really have any alternatives.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: paul_e on September 19, 2023, 01:01:51 PM
He was on the bench at the weekend, wasn't he? Got to play at some point.

I'm not sure under Emery that always means they're fit to play. Carlos was on the bench for ages and I strongly think he was nowhere near ready. I think Emery values getting them back into the squad for re-integration purposes, and anyway, we don't really have any alternatives.

Who knows with carlos, he was back on the bench at about the same time that we were on a run of conceding 8 in 16 to finish the season. Even if he was fully fit it would've been tough to bring him into that team ahead of Konsa or Mings.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 19, 2023, 01:15:11 PM
I've seen it suggested that there will be buses for Villa fans to and from the city center and the ground and that there's an expected 40 minute hold back after the game.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: AV82EC on September 19, 2023, 01:18:20 PM
I've seen it suggested that there will be buses for Villa fans to and from the city center and the ground and that there's an expected 40 minute hold back after the game.

Not just suggested it was in the pre match briefing pack and FAQs we got sent.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Smithy on September 19, 2023, 01:18:53 PM
He was on the bench at the weekend, wasn't he? Got to play at some point.

I'm not sure under Emery that always means they're fit to play. Carlos was on the bench for ages and I strongly think he was nowhere near ready. I think Emery values getting them back into the squad for re-integration purposes, and anyway, we don't really have any alternatives.

The worst possible scenario is Moreno starts a game too early and breaks down. This was a big hamstring injury, that required surgery, on a player that relies heavily on his pace.  If Unai thinks he's fit enough for the bench, then by all means, let's give him 30 mins and let Digne have a bit of a rest before the weekend.  But from zero minutes in months, to starting a game feels like a risk?

I would expect to see five or six of our normal starting eleven at a minimum, but that most of them will be subbed off at some stage.  Almost certainly starts for Bailey, Tielemens and Carlos (if fit), maybe even Donk and Duran.

Does anyone know what the sub situation is in the ECL? Same as the premier league?  Obviously more subs is an advantage to clubs like us, but hopefully it's similar to the league.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: john e on September 19, 2023, 01:25:30 PM
Is Carlos going to be back for this?

If so I'd go:

Martinez

Konsa Carlos Torres Digne

Bailey Tielemans Luiz McGinn Zaniolo

Duran

Carlos hasn’t been a disaster by any means but there’s nothing that’s impressed me about him so far
Although I wouldn’t say that to his face obviously
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Risso on September 19, 2023, 01:29:17 PM
Is Carlos going to be back for this?

If so I'd go:

Martinez

Konsa Carlos Torres Digne

Bailey Tielemans Luiz McGinn Zaniolo

Duran

Carlos hasn’t been a disaster by any means but there’s nothing that’s impressed me about him so far
Although I wouldn’t say that to his face obviously

He's still only played 6(?) games for us and we're going to need him. He's never going to get bullied on the ball like Torres does though.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: john e on September 19, 2023, 01:37:38 PM
Is Carlos going to be back for this?

If so I'd go:

Martinez

Konsa Carlos Torres Digne

Bailey Tielemans Luiz McGinn Zaniolo

Duran

Carlos hasn’t been a disaster by any means but there’s nothing that’s impressed me about him so far
Although I wouldn’t say that to his face obviously

He's still only played 6(?) games for us and we're going to need him. He's never going to get bullied on the ball like Torres does though.

Yes that’s true it’s early days yet
I just like new players to be absolutely brilliant world beaters straight away
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Bully2345 on September 19, 2023, 01:40:27 PM
Does anyone know what the sub situation is in the ECL? Same as the premier league?  Obviously more subs is an advantage to clubs like us, but hopefully it's similar to the league.

Still five subs in three blocks. You can name more substitutes though (twelve I think) and you have to name two keepers so we're ahead of the game there
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: LeeB on September 19, 2023, 02:22:01 PM
Is Carlos going to be back for this?

If so I'd go:

Martinez

Konsa Carlos Torres Digne

Bailey Tielemans Luiz McGinn Zaniolo

Duran

Carlos hasn’t been a disaster by any means but there’s nothing that’s impressed me about him so far
Although I wouldn’t say that to his face obviously

He's still only played 6(?) games for us and we're going to need him. He's never going to get bullied on the ball like Torres does though.

Yes that’s true it’s early days yet
I just like new players to be absolutely brilliant world beaters straight away

I thought he looked really good at Burnley at both ends, at corners you're not bumping him out of his stride if he's attacking the ball are you? We're lacking that without Mings as well.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: brontebilly on September 19, 2023, 02:36:42 PM
Is Carlos going to be back for this?

If so I'd go:

Martinez

Konsa Carlos Torres Digne

Bailey Tielemans Luiz McGinn Zaniolo

Duran

Carlos hasn’t been a disaster by any means but there’s nothing that’s impressed me about him so far
Although I wouldn’t say that to his face obviously

Thought he played very well at Burnley for his first 90mins+ for us in 12 months, granted they were/are limited. Injured about 20 mins into the next game which is unfortunate and worrying. Granted he is slow on the turn but we badly miss a physical presence without Mings that he makes up for.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 19, 2023, 03:53:08 PM
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Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 19, 2023, 04:34:28 PM
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Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
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Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
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Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Martyn Smith on September 19, 2023, 05:18:37 PM
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Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Martyn Smith on September 19, 2023, 05:26:23 PM
As for comparing it to the Intertoto which was a two bob pre season qualifier for the UEFA Cup, people really need to get a grip.

I must admit certain peoples dismal doomongering about this competition is getting right on my wick.

Well said. Yeah it’s a load of bollocks.

Agreed, it's the same sort of nonsense I've seen on SHA about it since we qualified for Europe.

They should just rename themselves Sour Grapes FC
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Mister E on September 19, 2023, 06:34:39 PM
As for comparing it to the Intertoto which was a two bob pre season qualifier for the UEFA Cup, people really need to get a grip.

I must admit certain peoples dismal doomongering about this competition is getting right on my wick.
Well said. Yeah it’s a load of bollocks.
Agreed, it's the same sort of nonsense I've seen on SHA about it since we qualified for Europe.
They should just rename themselves Sour Grapes FC
Trouble is, Martyn, WBA already have that name registered.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: frank black on September 19, 2023, 06:50:31 PM
Fans who haven't read the smallprint, more like.
Or just haven't got round to finalising travel arrangements etc...?
Or have bought tickets with no intention of going, wrongfully thinking their booking history would remain intact

Imagine… maybe they should penalize em with a -1 or 2 game penalty off their history. How much were the tickets?
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: AV82EC on September 19, 2023, 06:52:14 PM
Fans who haven't read the smallprint, more like.
Or just haven't got round to finalising travel arrangements etc...?
Or have bought tickets with no intention of going, wrongfully thinking their booking history would remain intact

Imagine… maybe they should penalize em with a -1 or 2 game penalty off their history. How much were the tickets?

£18.61
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Risso on September 19, 2023, 06:52:55 PM
Or just fill in the form with made up information. The club have got absolutely no way of checking if it's right or not.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: frank black on September 19, 2023, 06:55:39 PM
Fans who haven't read the smallprint, more like.
Or just haven't got round to finalising travel arrangements etc...?
Or have bought tickets with no intention of going, wrongfully thinking their booking history would remain intact

Imagine… maybe they should penalize em with a -1 or 2 game penalty off their history. How much were the tickets?

£18.61

At that price I reckon a few would have a go, to see if it counts on their history
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Bad English on September 19, 2023, 07:17:43 PM
Or just fill in the form with made up information. The club have got absolutely no way of checking if it's right or not.
Sandy Richardson
14 Seaview Terrace
Four Oaks
B94 ATV
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 19, 2023, 07:19:02 PM
Fans who haven't read the smallprint, more like.
Or just haven't got round to finalising travel arrangements etc...?
Or have bought tickets with no intention of going, wrongfully thinking their booking history would remain intact

Imagine… maybe they should penalize em with a -1 or 2 game penalty off their history. How much were the tickets?

£18.61

At that price I reckon a few would have a go, to see if it counts on their history
i think a first offence in the Prem away games  is 3 game ban
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on September 19, 2023, 07:25:36 PM
Or just fill in the form with made up information. The club have got absolutely no way of checking if it's right or not.
Had to do a bit of that for the Hibs game....booked on proper coach etc but departure times etc hadn't been finalised...and I wanted to submit the travel form sooner rather than later!
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 19, 2023, 10:47:30 PM
Or just fill in the form with made up information. The club have got absolutely no way of checking if it's right or not.
Sandy Richardson
14 Seaview Terrace
Four Oaks
B94 ATV

Green Nigel
ATV Studios
Broad Street
Birmingham
B1 2JP
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: olaftab on September 19, 2023, 11:07:56 PM
Or just fill in the form with made up information. The club have got absolutely no way of checking if it's right or not.
Sandy Richardson
14 Seaview Terrace
Four Oaks
B94 ATV
I live at 16 Seaview Terrace and can just about see Sandy  sunbathing in his  overgrown back garden. I will ask him  if he has a ticket.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 19, 2023, 11:33:15 PM
0-3 away win , Watkins x 2, Diaby .
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: womble on September 19, 2023, 11:35:21 PM
Martinez

Cash Konsa Torres Digne

Kamara Dendoncker Luiz

Diaby Watkins McGinn

Bring on Tielemans, Duran, Moreno (if fit), Bailey and Zaniolo.

This is a big game for us so we need to start a strong team.

I'd start Carlos ahead of Torres if he was fit but doubt he is, hence Torres starts.

Putting the Donk in as a holding midfielder to protect Torres to be honest. That and some squad rotation.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: ChicagoLion on September 20, 2023, 10:04:21 AM
6 games in 18 days, we need to rotate and get match time into a number of players legs so expect  Chambers Dendonker Moreno Tielmans Duran.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 20, 2023, 10:37:37 AM
There's no way Tielemans doesn't start this one.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 20, 2023, 10:40:19 AM
6 games in 18 days, we need to rotate and get match time into a number of players legs so expect  Chambers Dendonker Moreno Tielmans Duran.


I'd rather get 3 points on the board. Then we can hopefully be qualified by matchday 4 and then the last two games are dead rubbers.

That said certainly can see likes of Duran and Tielemans starting.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: AV84 on September 20, 2023, 10:43:31 AM

I'd rather get 3 points on the board. Then we can hopefully be qualified by matchday 4 and then the last two games are dead rubbers.

That said certainly can see likes of Duran and Tielemans starting.

I think the same. Go as strong as possible for the early games and have more rotation later on. There's one or two changes that wouldn't be seen to be obviously weakening the side so some players can still get a break early on. But wholesale changes can be kept for later.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Axl Rose on September 20, 2023, 11:00:17 AM
5-1 us.

I might have predicted a different score earlier on in this thread, but anyway. We'll smash them. They're s slow.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 20, 2023, 11:01:58 AM
select the team with one eye on Sunday which is a bigger game
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Aldridge Villa on September 20, 2023, 11:45:50 AM
Not really a bigger game as the purpose of winning at places like Chelsea last year was to get us back into Europe in the first place.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on September 20, 2023, 12:41:30 PM
I'd certainly play Dendoncker ahead of Kamara in this one. He needs to get match fitness, and Kamara has been pretty rubbish thus far this season anyway. I'd also start Tielemans ahead of Luiz to give Luiz a rest.

I'd start Digne and Watkins but replace with Moreno and Duran at half time.

Chambers I would bring on at half time for Carlos if we are winning comfortably.

Definitely would not start Olsen.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: AV84 on September 20, 2023, 12:46:31 PM

Definitely would not start Olsen.

I think we're probably going to have to use Olsen at some point but the fact Martinez had that injury and hasn't played all the games so far this season means we don't have to rest him just yet. I wouldn't be surprised to see Olsen against Everton though.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 20, 2023, 01:06:59 PM
at £170,000 a week we should at some point use Langlet
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: AV84 on September 20, 2023, 01:09:10 PM
at £170,000 a week we should at some point use Langlet

We're not paying him that though.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Clampy on September 20, 2023, 01:10:19 PM
at £170,000 a week we should at some point use Langlet

Where did you get that figure from?
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 20, 2023, 01:13:20 PM
at £170,000 a week we should at some point use Langlet

Where did you get that figure from?
the Athletic -
Considering the fact that Lenglet was reportedly earning £194,000 a week at Barcelona
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: AV84 on September 20, 2023, 01:14:32 PM
at £170,000 a week we should at some point use Langlet

Where did you get that figure from?
the Athletic -
Considering the fact that Lenglet was reportedly earning £194,000 a week at Barcelona

Supposedly that fee includes deferred wages from a while back, so Barca are still paying that part of his wages.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: PeterWithe on September 20, 2023, 01:14:51 PM
Langlet signing completely passed me by, when did that happen? Is he fit to play?
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 20, 2023, 01:15:34 PM
Langlet signing completely passed me by, when did that happen? Is he fit to play?
He's been on the bench so i guess so
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: kipeye on September 20, 2023, 01:18:38 PM
Is there any live t.v. planned?
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 20, 2023, 01:19:32 PM
Is there any live t.v. planned?
TNT2
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: eamonn on September 20, 2023, 02:38:46 PM
at £170,000 a week we should at some point use Langlet

Lulz. Not a chance.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: PaulTheVillan on September 20, 2023, 02:39:28 PM
Olsen in goal? Or do we go full strength until we’ve qualified and then make the changes.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: AV84 on September 20, 2023, 02:40:26 PM
Olsen in goal? Or do we go full strength until we’ve qualified and then make the changes.

Emi already had a mini break a few weeks ago, Olsen for Everton, Martinez for Europe and League for now.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Hookeysmith on September 20, 2023, 02:49:15 PM
Fuck me


Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on September 20, 2023, 03:11:56 PM
at £170,000 a week we should at some point use Langlet

I had forgotten we'd signed him! Yes he should be getting some game time during this hectic part of the schedule.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Baldy on September 20, 2023, 03:33:26 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/Tq2PhSW/Villa-1978.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Tq2PhSW)


Just a few years before our biggest european conquest. Only eleven players, two of them goalies!!

No wonder Unai fills our bench with goalies.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Matt C on September 20, 2023, 03:42:25 PM
Any US-based Villains that can tell me what channel I need now to watch Conference League? Is it Paramount+?
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 20, 2023, 03:44:29 PM
🚨 Supporters who have not yet submitted their European Travel Form will not be send an e-ticket ahead of the fixture.

If you are still intending on travelling to the game - you will need to complete the Travel Form and head to the Legia Tennis Club between 11am - 4pm.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 20, 2023, 04:11:03 PM
Fuck me




Yeah very impressive, but I bet they don't have those little boxes that make flames come out of them.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: London Villan on September 20, 2023, 04:29:17 PM
Or a bar, where you now pay £60 to enter, which was free last season.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: astonvilla82 on September 20, 2023, 04:30:09 PM
{alt}
Any US-based Villains that can tell me what channel I need now to watch Conference League? Is it Paramount+?
There Aston Villa North America Facebook page if that helps
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: usav on September 20, 2023, 04:33:13 PM
Any US-based Villains that can tell me what channel I need now to watch Conference League? Is it Paramount+?

I believe it is.  I found a free and very stable link for the Hibs game easily.....
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 20, 2023, 05:30:47 PM
Any US-based Villains that can tell me what channel I need now to watch Conference League? Is it Paramount+?

TNT Sports 2. The Mark Williams documentary 'Super Villans' is scheduled for the hour before the match coverage starts.
https://www.bt.com/sport/football/features/super-villans-bt-sport-films-story-of-the-documentary
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: AV84 on September 20, 2023, 05:33:32 PM
A reminder for anyone in Ireland, if you have Virgin Media, it's on Virgin Media More.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: kipeye on September 20, 2023, 07:33:55 PM
Is there any live t.v. planned?
TNT2
Ta.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: The Man With A Stick on September 20, 2023, 08:16:51 PM
Fuck me




That's fine, god help anyone who wears rainbow laces or a "One Love" armband though or they'll feel the full wrath of UEFA & FIFA.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Ads on September 20, 2023, 08:22:58 PM
Drinking in Old Town (which is beautiful). Keep your wits about you though, lots of moody Legia Warsaw snooping about spotting.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Smirker on September 20, 2023, 08:42:01 PM
Drinking in Old Town (which is beautiful). Keep your wits about you though, lots of moody Legia Warsaw snooping about spotting.

Enjoy it and be safe.

UTV
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Eckybloke on September 20, 2023, 08:49:02 PM
To save me looking, can you buy individual games on TNT2?
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Lastfootstamper on September 20, 2023, 09:00:18 PM
To save me looking, can you buy individual games on TNT2?


I believe they offer nothing less than a month. I had a look myself yesterday, no sign of anything like a day pass or the such.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Eckybloke on September 20, 2023, 10:12:39 PM
Grudgingly I may have to go with that then. 🤣
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: AV84 on September 20, 2023, 10:29:25 PM
Just reading Emery's prematch presser.

Ramsey and Moreno travelled with the squad and he says he'll decide tomorrow if they'll play or not but that they need to start getting minutes. (I'd say he knows already if they will or not, but I'd assume they're both fit enough to play at the very least)

No mention of Carlos and I didn't see him in any of the training pics either.

Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Ads on September 20, 2023, 10:43:30 PM
Police have just leaned over the outdoor railings in our pub to ask me if I could tell my table to keep the noise down, otherwise they'll have to gas us.

Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: RamboandBruno on September 20, 2023, 10:54:04 PM
Think we’ll go strong with a couple of tweaks.

                                    Martinez

Cash.                  Konsa. Torres.            Digne

                                      Kamara

                            Luiz.       Tielemans

Mcginn                                                      Diaby
                                      Watkins

Moreno to get on for Digne around 60 mins. Bailey or Zaniola for Tielemans with McGinn moving into the middle.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Risso on September 20, 2023, 11:07:17 PM
Police have just leaned over the outdoor railings in our pub to ask me if I could tell my table to keep the noise down, otherwise they'll have to gas us.



How polite of them to give you advance notice!
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 20, 2023, 11:18:51 PM
Emery will start full strength I'm sure of that , then hopefully with job done will start rotations from 60 mins with Chelsea in mind.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: TonyD on September 20, 2023, 11:21:48 PM
Police have just leaned over the outdoor railings in our pub to ask me if I could tell my table to keep the noise down, otherwise they'll have to gas us.



How polite of them to give you advance notice!
Ads you are a bloody rabble rouser.  :)
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: TonyD on September 20, 2023, 11:24:51 PM
Grudgingly I may have to go with that then. 🤣
You might get it free if your mobile is with EE. Check it out.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Cleybrooke on September 20, 2023, 11:50:41 PM
Lucky to be in Las Vegas for the game - any suggestions on where to watch?
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: VillaTim on September 21, 2023, 12:13:25 AM
Lucky to be in Las Vegas for the game - any suggestions on where to watch?
I'm there next month will need somewhere for the West Ham game , let me know please
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 21, 2023, 12:27:18 AM
A lot, if not most, hotels have rooms with a mass of screens showing just about every sporting event than can be bet on. There will also be a load of Sports Bars with multiple screens. West Ham should be a doddle as it's the only PL game, Warsaw may be a bit harder to find.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: CT Villan on September 21, 2023, 02:28:16 AM
Lucky to be in Las Vegas for the game - any suggestions on where to watch?
I'm there next month will need somewhere for the West Ham game , let me know please
Can't assist with a location, but Conf league is on Paramount+ (streaming) and EPL on USA/NBC or Peacock (streaming) if that helps.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Martyn Smith on September 21, 2023, 06:13:56 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/Tq2PhSW/Villa-1978.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Tq2PhSW)


Just a few years before our biggest european conquest. Only eleven players, two of them goalies!!

No wonder Unai fills our bench with goalies.

Am I correct in understanding that if you nominate a full bench of 12 subs, at least two of them have to be named as keepers?

It was all practice for that... or something
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Martyn Smith on September 21, 2023, 06:21:27 AM
Fuck me




That's fine, god help anyone who wears rainbow laces or a "One Love" armband though or they'll feel the full wrath of UEFA & FIFA.

You can understand why it's still raw though. It was only 80 fucking years ago...
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on September 21, 2023, 07:18:00 AM
Isn’t this chap a poster on here?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66808886
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: dr.chekov on September 21, 2023, 07:36:30 AM
I think his friend is... WarszaVillan.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Nunkin1965 on September 21, 2023, 07:41:43 AM
The Villa back in Europe!
A lovely thought I had over breakfast.
Good luck lads and I'm going for a controlled 2-0 victory.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: ChicagoLion on September 21, 2023, 07:52:45 AM
Congratulations to the OP and the use of The Villa.
Was a proper chant backin the day.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: WarszaVillan on September 21, 2023, 08:15:33 AM
I think his friend is... WarszaVillan.

Yes, I'm the one he age shames :))
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: olaftab on September 21, 2023, 08:36:23 AM
To save me looking, can you buy individual games on TNT2?
I will save you looking. NO.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: dicedlam on September 21, 2023, 08:49:15 AM
Lucky to be in Las Vegas for the game - any suggestions on where to watch?
I'm there next month will need somewhere for the West Ham game , let me know please

Whenever I am in Vegas during the season I watch games at the Little Crown (755 Spring Mountain Rd (702) 876-4733).
They also have a bar on E Tropicana Ave which is the larger of the two pubs (you mainly get US sports on TV in there, but if you give them a call, they may set a side a screen for you.

https://www.crownandanchorlv.com/the-little-crown
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Clampy on September 21, 2023, 08:56:27 AM
Lucky to be in Las Vegas for the game - any suggestions on where to watch?
I'm there next month will need somewhere for the West Ham game , let me know please

Whenever I am in Vegas during the season I watch games at the Little Crown (755 Spring Mountain Rd (702) 876-4733).
They also have a bar on E Tropicana Ave which is the larger of the two pubs (you mainly get US sports on TV in there, but if you give them a call, they may set a side a screen for you.

https://www.crownandanchorlv.com/the-little-crown

I've been in one of those two pubs. It was the one not far from the strip on a main road. Nice little pub actually, although we chose to walk it there which nearly killed us in the heat.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: The Edge on September 21, 2023, 09:06:32 AM
Congratulations to the OP and the use of The Villa.
Was a proper chant backin the day.
Speaking of chants how about this it's a remake of the John Carew one:
"Jhon Duran Duran he's big as a caravan, he's Unai Emerys man Jhon Duran Duran"
He deserves his own chant after that finish against Palace. Struggling to think of a more technically brilliant control and boom into the back of the net at Villa Park and in front of the Holte.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Drummond on September 21, 2023, 09:12:08 AM
Congratulations to the OP and the use of The Villa.
Was a proper chant backin the day.
Speaking of chants how about this it's a remake of the John Carew one:
"Jhon Duran Duran he's big as a caravan, he's Unai Emerys man Jhon Duran Duran"
He deserves his own chant after that finish against Palace. Struggling to think of a more technically brilliant control and boom into the back of the net at Villa Park and in front of the Holte.

LeeB will love that one.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Somniloquism on September 21, 2023, 09:15:29 AM
Isn’t this chap a poster on here?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66808886

Where can we see the "hilarious" Matty Cash adverts?
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Drummond on September 21, 2023, 09:19:20 AM
Isn’t this chap a poster on here?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66808886

Where can we see the "hilarious" Matty Cash adverts?

Poland 🇵🇱
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Dave on September 21, 2023, 09:20:46 AM
Isn’t this chap a poster on here?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66808886

Where can we see the "hilarious" Matty Cash adverts?

I think they were linked on here a while ago.

"Metty Cash, Metty Cash"

Edit - here you go.



Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Risso on September 21, 2023, 09:22:30 AM
Lucky to be in Las Vegas for the game - any suggestions on where to watch?
I'm there next month will need somewhere for the West Ham game , let me know please

Whenever I am in Vegas during the season I watch games at the Little Crown (755 Spring Mountain Rd (702) 876-4733).
They also have a bar on E Tropicana Ave which is the larger of the two pubs (you mainly get US sports on TV in there, but if you give them a call, they may set a side a screen for you.

https://www.crownandanchorlv.com/the-little-crown

The sports bar at the Venetian is pretty good. They'll put it on one of the screens in there for you if you ask, as they did with the rugby for my mate when we were in there last week, and some Polish guys asked for the Poland game as well, so I got to watch a bit of Metty Cesh.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: amfy on September 21, 2023, 09:22:54 AM
Congratulations to the OP and the use of The Villa.
Was a proper chant backin the day.
Speaking of chants how about this it's a remake of the John Carew one:
"Jhon Duran Duran he's big as a caravan, he's Unai Emerys man Jhon Duran Duran"
He deserves his own chant after that finish against Palace. Struggling to think of a more technically brilliant control and boom into the back of the net at Villa Park and in front of the Holte.

This is great if we can just avoid naming the manager & think of something else.  Obviously want Unai to stay as long as possible but am also aware that I want to avoid the levels of confusion we are suffering in the John McGinn song at this stage!
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Dr Butler on September 21, 2023, 09:26:28 AM
Isn’t this chap a poster on here?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66808886

what a great article....nice one WarszaVillan :)

UTV
The Doc

Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 21, 2023, 09:30:11 AM
Congratulations to the OP and the use of The Villa.
Was a proper chant backin the day.
Speaking of chants how about this it's a remake of the John Carew one:
"Jhon Duran Duran he's big as a caravan, he's Unai Emerys man Jhon Duran Duran"
He deserves his own chant after that finish against Palace. Struggling to think of a more technically brilliant control and boom into the back of the net at Villa Park and in front of the Holte.

LeeB will love that one.

He’d make a modification though. “Jhon Duran, Duran, I rent him a caravan “
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Somniloquism on September 21, 2023, 09:30:53 AM
Whenever I am in Vegas during the season I watch games at the Little Crown (755 Spring Mountain Rd (702) 876-4733).
They also have a bar on E Tropicana Ave which is the larger of the two pubs (you mainly get US sports on TV in there, but if you give them a call, they may set a side a screen for you.

https://www.crownandanchorlv.com/the-little-crown

I've been in one of those two pubs. It was the one not far from the strip on a main road. Nice little pub actually, although we chose to walk it there which nearly killed us in the heat.

The one on Tropicana is close to the Airport. We went there for the 2002 World Cup match V Argentina. We had landed that afternoon so jet-lag was fuelling us through to the 3am or so kick-off. When we left the sun was coming up and we looked and could see the hotels of the strip so decided to walk it. That was a mistake as the hotels are so big, they give a false impression of closeness and was the equivalent of walking from the city centre to Villa Park. To top it off, we were only half way back to the hotel as that was the other end of the strip. 
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Risso on September 21, 2023, 09:37:55 AM

The one on Tropicana is close to the Airport. We went there for the 2002 World Cup match V Argentina. We had landed that afternoon so jet-lag was fuelling us through to the 3am or so kick-off. When we left the sun was coming up and we looked and could see the hotels of the strip so decided to walk it. That was a mistake as the hotels are so big, they give a false impression of closeness and was the equivalent of walking from the city centre to Villa Park. To top it off, we were only half way back to the hotel as that was the other end of the strip. 

Yes I don't find Vegas very pedestrian friendly. Loads of quite narrow walkways and up and down escalators between the hotels. As you say, the hotels are enormous, and it was a good ten minute walk from my room to the hotel reception last week. Despite everywhere looking close, it was about a half an hour walk to get up to the Encore where our mate was staying, and of course, it was chuffing hot. Luckily the taxis are quite numerous but you mainly have to get them outside a hotel (on the strip, anyway). Taxis are relatively cheap, compared to everything else in Las Vegas anyway, which is eye-wateringly expensive.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 21, 2023, 10:16:55 AM
Isn’t this chap a poster on here?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66808886

I think his friend is... WarszaVillan.

Never mind WV, I wanted to hear more about Klaudyna and her quips.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: simon ward 50 on September 21, 2023, 10:55:24 AM
Isn’t this chap a poster on here?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66808886

what a great article....nice one WarszaVillan :)

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Beautiful piece!
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Somniloquism on September 21, 2023, 11:23:45 AM
Isn’t this chap a poster on here?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66808886

what a great article....nice one WarszaVillan :)

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It isn't his article, he is the mate mentioned who is missing out.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 21, 2023, 12:21:08 PM
Isn’t this chap a poster on here?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66808886

what a great article....nice one WarszaVillan :)

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It isn't his article, he is the mate mentioned who is missing out.

WarszaVillan's article is in the Morning Star.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: womble on September 21, 2023, 12:27:56 PM
The photo of Tielemans at the top of the match day email from Villa suggests he is likely to start to me.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Dick Edwards on September 21, 2023, 12:44:54 PM
To save me looking, can you buy individual games on TNT2?


I believe they offer nothing less than a month. I had a look myself yesterday, no sign of anything like a day pass or the such.

The Villa Brighton game this weekend is live on TNT too so you'll at least get two games for your money.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Richard on September 21, 2023, 12:50:31 PM
To save me looking, can you buy individual games on TNT2?


I believe they offer nothing less than a month. I had a look myself yesterday, no sign of anything like a day pass or the such.

The Villa Brighton game this weekend is live on TNT too so you'll at least get two games for your money.

Next weekend.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Dr Butler on September 21, 2023, 12:52:29 PM
Isn’t this chap a poster on here?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66808886

what a great article....nice one WarszaVillan :)

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The Doc

It isn't his article, he is the mate mentioned who is missing out.

WarszaVillan's article is in the Morning Star.

my bad as the yoof say...

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Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: BC54 VFC on September 21, 2023, 12:54:02 PM
Does anyone know how I can watch the game for free in Queensland, please?
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: WarszaVillan on September 21, 2023, 01:07:00 PM
Isn’t this chap a poster on here?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66808886

what a great article....nice one WarszaVillan :)

UTV
The Doc

It isn't his article, he is the mate mentioned who is missing out.

WarszaVillan's article is in the Morning Star.

Ha ha
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Risso on September 21, 2023, 01:17:49 PM
Quote
but Gav, a 53-year old sociologist at Kozminski University

Wait, what?! Always had you down as teaching Financial Trading and Investment Management or some such! ;)
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: PaulTheVillan on September 21, 2023, 01:37:24 PM
I’ve found a bar on holiday with it on. Don’t ruin my day please Villa :)
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: The Edge on September 21, 2023, 01:44:28 PM
I’ve found a bar on holiday with it on. Don’t ruin my day please Villa :)
Where that?
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: AV82EC on September 21, 2023, 01:45:06 PM
Currently in Warsaw at a craft beer bar with no other Villa fans, bliss.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: PaulTheVillan on September 21, 2023, 01:47:03 PM
I’ve found a bar on holiday with it on. Don’t ruin my day please Villa :)


Where that?

PDC, Lanzarote.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Hillbilly on September 21, 2023, 01:48:26 PM
Off to bed here in Australia. I expect Villa to have won when I wake up in the morning or you’re all in trouble.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: CT on September 21, 2023, 01:49:22 PM
Currently in Warsaw at a craft beer bar with no other Villa fans, bliss.
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Currently in Warsaw at a craft beer bar with no other Villa fans, bliss.

Same, we're at a bar two minutes from the stadium. 6 of us here, no other Villa at all.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: LeeB on September 21, 2023, 01:49:57 PM
Isn’t this chap a poster on here?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66808886

I think his friend is... WarszaVillan.

Never mind WV, I wanted to hear more about Klaudyna and her quips.

I was going to say, then thought twice, then thought I'd let you go first.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: coreyfeldman on September 21, 2023, 01:57:52 PM
Anyone know much about Legia at all, who their 'danger men' are, style of play and that?
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: AV82EC on September 21, 2023, 01:59:14 PM
Anyone know much about Legia at all, who their 'danger men' are, style of play and that?

Who gives a fuck about that, there’s beer to be drunk.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 21, 2023, 02:00:52 PM
Anyone know much about Legia at all, who their 'danger men' are, style of play and that?

Nah.

I just know they're getting funeralled good and proper tonight.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Small Rodent on September 21, 2023, 02:10:25 PM
The crowd will be their 12th man definitely. Apart from that they’ve had a strange couple of seasons with form until last year. My team Pogon Szczecin stopped any dreams they had of the league title last year. Pogon got funeralled by Ghent (or Genk) in the playoffs for this competition.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on September 21, 2023, 02:13:11 PM
Anyone know much about Legia at all, who their 'danger men' are, style of play and that?

klaun w bramce.......zaparkować autobus
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 21, 2023, 02:30:09 PM
Anyone know much about Legia at all, who their 'danger men' are, style of play and that?

Striker Pekhart was a Tottenham Academy player. Creative midfielder Josue played for Porto. Dunno the rest.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: olaftab on September 21, 2023, 02:36:33 PM
It’s getting interesting around Molly’s jus now😳
(https://i.ibb.co/ZmcMFgd/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZmcMFgd)
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: UK Redsox on September 21, 2023, 02:49:33 PM
Quote
but Gav, a 53-year old sociologist at Kozminski University

Wait, what?! Always had you down as teaching Financial Trading and Investment Management or some such! ;)

"You get an ology, you're a scientist"
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 21, 2023, 02:50:42 PM
I’ve found a bar on holiday with it on. Don’t ruin my day please Villa :)


Where that?

PDC, Lanzarote.

Have you met a pool cleaner with a tinfoil hat?
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 21, 2023, 02:51:20 PM
It’s getting interesting around Molly’s jus now😳
(https://i.ibb.co/ZmcMFgd/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZmcMFgd)

Don't see much claret and blue there.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: PaulTheVillan on September 21, 2023, 03:18:34 PM
I’ve found a bar on holiday with it on. Don’t ruin my day please Villa :)


Where that?

PDC, Lanzarote.

Have you met a pool cleaner with a tinfoil hat?

Yes. Tim Foil is his name.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Small Rodent on September 21, 2023, 03:23:06 PM
I’m sat one cafe away from Molly Malone’s enjoying the atmosphere and being served a lot faster!!
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: rjp on September 21, 2023, 03:33:40 PM
I’m sat one cafe away from Molly Malone’s enjoying the atmosphere and being served a lot faster!!

Me too but about to leave to avoid the kettle.

https://youtu.be/AEaCsVrJCrs?si=Auq56qHAaaVkxKJK (https://youtu.be/AEaCsVrJCrs?si=Auq56qHAaaVkxKJK)
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: dicedlam on September 21, 2023, 03:42:34 PM
Work definitely gets put on the back burner whenever we have a mid-week game. I've done sod all today.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: simon ward 50 on September 21, 2023, 03:49:02 PM
I’m sat one cafe away from Molly Malone’s enjoying the atmosphere and being served a lot faster!!

Me too but about to leave to avoid the kettle.


Tea no sugar, please!
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Martyn Smith on September 21, 2023, 04:26:40 PM
3-1 to us. It won't be easy but we will succeed through sheer class
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: AV84 on September 21, 2023, 04:30:12 PM
Based off everything we've seen so far this seasons we need to score early, preferably twice, and we should be good. We came back late against Palace but going behind away from home has ended very badly for us.
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Martyn Smith on September 21, 2023, 04:30:15 PM
But look, is anybody going to do the 'just up the M6' joke before it's too late?...
Title: Re: Legia Warszawa v Aston Villa Pre Match
Post by: Hookeysmith on September 21, 2023, 04:38:32 PM
I think the atmosphere will be more scary than their actual team - lets face it a more than decent premier team should be better than any team from this level.

We need to play the game not the occasion

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