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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Smirker on December 16, 2021, 09:36:23 AM
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Saturday 18th December, kick off 3pm.
This is one of those games where after we go on a good run, and we're all feeling positive, we have what is on paper a winnable game and I get excited for it, only for it to end in disappointment (Leeds last season at home was another). A win here would take us to five wins from seven, that's top 6 form.
Hopefully complacency doesn't set in. 1-0 would be excellent.
Win by one goal, FTF.
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We want a poll!
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No poll?
Think Burnley's league position is a bit misleading, and think they'll pull out of the relegation scrap soon-ish. Expecting a tough game, but ultimately we're in pretty good form right now & I think the way we're playing under Steven Gerrard will make us much more resilient against sides like Burnley.
Us 2-0 Them.
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Another win and Stevie G will match John Gregory's record for best start as manager. It's be a different challenge and they'll be more "robust" than Norwich I expect.
3-0, and Mee gets scissor tackled by Mings and Konsa together, one on each leg.
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Burnley are a horrible outfit. I'd love to see them relegated with their anti-football tactics. Expect them to sit deep and try and frustrate us. I can see us winning by the odd goal, so 1-0. As for Ben Mee, he deserves the 'Schmeichel' treatment after that disgraceful tackle on Wesley.
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3 points Villa! Nothing less please.
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Burnley are a horrible outfit. I'd love to see them relegated with their anti-football tactics. Expect them to sit deep and try and frustrate us. I can see us winning by the odd goal, so 1-0. As for Ben Mee, he deserves the 'Schmeichel' treatment after that disgraceful tackle on Wesley.
He did for Grealish as well last season didn't he?
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I hope we smash the cloggers.
But what team we can put out come Saturday is anyones guess if Covid strikes again.
Assuming Buendia will miss out (he looked like he was really struggling on Tuesday) and possibly Young too (minutes and a knock) then with no more issues it's still a decent 11. Any more injuries or suspensions and we're down to bare bones for Chelsea though.
Martinez
Cash Konsa Mings Targett
McGinn Luiz Ramsey
Chuk Ings Watkins
Still with Bidace, Cam and Trez in support up front, but no back up for midfield really.
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Another win and Stevie G will match John Gregory's record for best start as manager. It's be a different challenge and they'll be more "robust" than Norwich I expect.
3-0, and Mee gets scissor tackled by Mings and Konsa together, one on each leg.
Greggers managed 9 wins out of his first 11 league games (and the two defeats were to relegated teams, not the top two in the country!) plus a home win against Atleti in a VP atmosphere that has never since been matched. He set a high bar, Mr Gerrard still has a way to go.
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I've no doubt Burnley will be studying videos of our matches to see if they can find the spot Buendia has been kicked on so they can do it again.
Chukwuemeka's physical presence would be good for this. I reckon Ings too.
2-0 Ings, McGinn
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This is a game that will suit Mings, and he will be our MOTM
2-0 comfortable win
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Have this down as a home win but Burnley are spoilers and are more than capable of getting a draw if they drag us into that sort of battle. Nakamba getting crocked doesn't help but still going for a home win 1-0*
*provided we don't lose another couple of players to COVID
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No poll?
Think Burnley's league position is a bit misleading, and think they'll pull out of the relegation scrap soon-ish. Expecting a tough game, but ultimately we're in pretty good form right now & I think the way we're playing under Steven Gerrard will make us much more resilient against sides like Burnley.
Us 2-0 Them.
They've one win all season, and are goalless from their last three games. If we've aspirations of a higher finish, we need to be beating a bottom three side at home, however agricultural they might be. If we can put out close to a first choice midfield, I think we'll run them ragged.
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Poll added.
Bloody amateurs.
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Villa win for me.
We seem to be well prepared for games and I fancy a comfortable 2-0.
Onwards and upwards.
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Bit of a pain in the backside opposition since we came back up but I think we're playing well enough to win this comfortably.
Think I'd bring back Ings for this and try him in inside forward role as Ollie is scoring at decent rate so would keep him as CF.
3-1 win. Despite the current circumstances I'd urge anyone going to enjoy it as not sure the Chelsea match will happen with the cases rising and could easily be significant restrictions on attending sporting events in January/Feb.
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Like Wimbledon games of yore, they drag you down to their level if you're not careful. However, we're due to give them a good shoeing, so I'm going 4-0.
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Tougher than Norwich, obvs. Won’t be high scoring.
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Need a decent ref for this one or they will try to kick us off the park.
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I was hoping for a cracking pre Christmas day out but the spectre of Omnicron has blunted that feeling.
As for the game, should it go ahead, I can see an attritional battle but would hope we can rise above it. We're in a better position to go up against the likes of Burnley with this manager so I think we will prevail.
2-0
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OK. Bearing in mind that I have to book accommodation for Friday night before the game (I'm oop far north tomorrow), what do people think are the chances of this being covid postponed.
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Need a decent ref for this one or they will try to kick us off the park.
If it goes ahead, the referee will be Andy Madley, but with Jonathan Moss as the VAR official :(
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I can see a Villa 2-0 win.
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OK. Bearing in mind that I have to book accommodation for Friday night before the game (I'm oop far north tomorrow), what do people think are the chances of this being covid postponed.
I'd imagine the problem would be our end rather than Burnley's. Depends if we've got an outbreak. Moyes I think commented the problem is youth players coming into the bubble so seeing we have a lot of youth players involved...….. 60-40 for going ahead based on nothing really
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OK. Bearing in mind that I have to book accommodation for Friday night before the game (I'm oop far north tomorrow), what do people think are the chances of this being covid postponed.
Unfortunately it seems impossible to predict as the criteria for postponement seem to vary from club to club. There has been no indication of it being at risk but if it was me I’d be leaving it as late as possible before committing.
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Like Wimbledon games of yore, they drag you down to their level if you're not careful. However, we're due to give them a good shoeing, so I'm going 4-0.
Just remembered when we played Wimbledon right before Christmas one year and won 7-0.
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Have played these shithouses 8 times in Premiership
Home - W 1 D 2 L 1
Away - W 1 D 2 L 1
So not a formality to win by any means but they do seem a bit shitterer this season and i fancy them to actually drop
A very bruising 1-0 with a scrappy Konsa goal
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A win and Mee getting chopped in half would be a lovely start to the Xmas festivities.
I'd love it if we had Wes on the bench to bring on for the last minute..
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A win and Mee getting chopped in half would be a lovely start to the Xmas festivities.
#MeeToo
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A win and Mee getting chopped in half would be a lovely start to the Xmas festivities.
#MeeToo
#MeeTwo
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Like Wimbledon games of yore, they drag you down to their level if you're not careful. However, we're due to give them a good shoeing, so I'm going 4-0.
Just remembered when we played Wimbledon right before Christmas one year and won 7-0.
You are getting the 7-1 (1995) and the 5-0 (December 1996) mixed up.
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Like Wimbledon games of yore, they drag you down to their level if you're not careful. However, we're due to give them a good shoeing, so I'm going 4-0.
Just remembered when we played Wimbledon right before Christmas one year and won 7-0.
I think you may have done Wimbledon a disservice there. I think we only beat them 7-1 . Also I think the Wimbledon game just before Christmas was something like 5-0 and the 7-1 game came afterwards, possibly the following season.
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If this game goes ahead, we will win 3-1.
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Like Wimbledon games of yore, they drag you down to their level if you're not careful. However, we're due to give them a good shoeing, so I'm going 4-0.
Just remembered when we played Wimbledon right before Christmas one year and won 7-0.
You mean the 7-1 victory on February 11th 1995 at VP? Tommy Johnson hat-trick.....amazingly, Wimbledon took the lead!
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Yeah, you're both right. There was a 5-0 and a 7-1. It was beginning to feel like a Christmas tradition.
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5-0
chucka 2
Philogene-Bidace 1
JJ 1
Trez 1
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Like Wimbledon games of yore, they drag you down to their level if you're not careful. However, we're due to give them a good shoeing, so I'm going 4-0.
Just remembered when we played Wimbledon right before Christmas one year and won 7-0.
You mean the 7-1 victory on February 11th 1995 at VP? Tommy Johnson hat-trick.....amazingly, Wimbledon took the lead!
So did San Marino, with the fastest international goal ever at the time. Sir Graham's last stand before his humiliating reign was terminated.
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Can we recall Wesley for this one? He seems to be doing bugger-all for Brugge. I just want him to get on the pitch and do what he thinks he needs to, to that thug Ben Thatcher/Mee.
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Think the 7-1 was before the 5-0. We had Saunders for the 7-1 and Yorke had moved to be our main striker for the 5-0
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Basically, we were shit the season when we won 7-1. We were brilliant the season we won 5-0. Alright?
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The 5-0 was December 1996. 22nd I believe.
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Ben Mee deserves absolutely the worst treatment we can dish out, boo’d into oblivion whenever he gets the ball please. Need to be on at the ref demanding cards early to stop them kicking us out of the game too. God I hate Burnley, really hope we can smash them.
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An absolute travesty that we only took 1 point off them last year but we're a better outfit now and this looks like the year that the Premier League may finally flush the turd that is Burnley.
3-0 (McGinn, Ramsey, Ings)
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Burnley confirm Covid amongst playing staff.
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Have played these shithouses 8 times in Premiership
Home - W 1 D 2 L 1
Away - W 1 D 2 L 1
So not a formality to win by any means but they do seem a bit shitterer this season and i fancy them to actually drop
A very bruising 1-0 with a scrappy Konsa goal
I'm surprised our record is that good. We were utter garbage for most of the time we played them. Now we're on the up. Therefore, a win.
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I think this will be postponed.
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I got an api error when I submitted mine. Now the link says the form has been submitted.
Any ideas?
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0-2 if it takes place.
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From Sky Sports:
Five Premier League games due to take place this weekend have been postponed because of Covid-19 outbreaks.
Following the announcement on Thursday morning that Manchester United's game against Brighton on Saturday was off, the Premier League later confirmed four more fixtures would be postponed: - Southampton vs Brentford - Saturday December 18, 3pm
- Watford v Crystal Palace - Saturday December 18, 3pm
- West Ham United vs Norwich City - Saturday December 18, 3pm
- Everton vs Leicester City - Sunday December 19, 12pm
It now means five of the 10 matches scheduled for the weekend have been scratched from the schedule with the only games set to take place on Saturday now being Aston Villa's home game against Burnley and Leeds vs Arsenal.
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I think this will be postponed.
Why? Have more players gone down with covid?
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I think this will be postponed.
Why? Have more players gone down with covid?
only a matter of time
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I got an api error when I submitted mine. Now the link says the form has been submitted.
Any ideas?
I keep getting that as well.
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I got an api error when I submitted mine. Now the link says the form has been submitted.
Any ideas?
I keep getting that as well.
What’s the HTTP response code? F12 your browser and try again.
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I got an api error when I submitted mine. Now the link says the form has been submitted.
Any ideas?
I keep getting that as well.
We're not alone, loads on twitter.
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Just got a hunch - could be thinking come 5:49pm on Saturday why was that not postponed - we struggle at home against them
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I got an api error when I submitted mine. Now the link says the form has been submitted.
Any ideas?
I’ve had the same, no idea whether they have it now or not!
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Now saying link no longer exists arrrgghh!!
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And now magically it works!!
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Same …API errors. Then expired link and now it works.
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Remember last year at Villa Park when we had about 74 shots on goal and couldn't score.
Mostly for El Ghazi on his left foot.
Probably the most frustrating game of the season.
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I think this will be postponed.
Why? Have more players gone down with covid?
only a matter of time
Don't 😔
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6.0
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Remaining fixtures will wiped out tomorrow. Merry Christmas
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Remaining fixtures will wiped out tomorrow. Merry Christmas
Aww, just when I've filled in my Covid questionnaire for Saturday! ;)
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Just got a hunch - could be thinking come 5:49pm on Saturday why was that not postponed - we struggle at home against them
We play our game and others get postponed and we could well be 7th for xmas day.
Would've seemed a mirage second weeks ago.
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More like a minor miracle.
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Will be sad if Boxing Day match is called off was looking forward to that
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Will be sad if Boxing Day match is called off was looking forward to that
I won’t 5.30 kick off, please cancel it. Anyway if the game is on tomorrow, easy-ish 2-0 win
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Will be sad if Boxing Day match is called off was looking forward to that
I won’t 5.30 kick off, please cancel it. Anyway if the game is on tomorrow, easy-ish 2-0 win
It’s either that or a trip to the mother in laws for me
So you can see my desperation for this game to be on
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Will be sad if Boxing Day match is called off was looking forward to that
I won’t 5.30 kick off, please cancel it. Anyway if the game is on tomorrow, easy-ish 2-0 win
It’s either that or a trip to the mother in laws for me
So you can see my desperation for this game to be on
Ok fair point 😆
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Remaining fixtures will wiped out tomorrow. Merry Christmas
...I don't wanna fight tonight.
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Will be sad if Boxing Day match is called off was looking forward to that
I won’t 5.30 kick off, please cancel it. Anyway if the game is on tomorrow, easy-ish 2-0 win
It’s either that or a trip to the mother in laws for me
So you can see my desperation for this game to be on
You and the mother in law still trying to avoid each other after what happened last time? Don't worry, your secret is safe with us ;-)
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Forgive the cynicism but I have a feeling that if two clubs want a game to go ahead then go ahead it will; and in this case I reckon that both Villa and Burnley will want this game to be played tomorrow rather than any other time.
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Still on? 8)
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59698662
Premier League clubs will meet on Monday to discuss the escalating crisis around the coronavirus pandemic.
Looks like the games that are still on for this weekend will go ahead. The Premier League clubs aren't even meeting to discuss the situation until Monday
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So just to confirm
Under 18s don’t need to do anything for tomorrow’s game ?
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I got an api error when I submitted mine. Now the link says the form has been submitted.
Any ideas?
Filling in the form was easy enough. At least it says that it's submitted. Getting to the Covid pass on the NHS app was a different matter as I lost my phone charger. All sorted now. DON'T FORGET YOUR COVID PASS. It said on the email that you can't get in without it, or a negative test result from the app.
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Will be sad if Boxing Day match is called off was looking forward to that
I won’t 5.30 kick off, please cancel it. Anyway if the game is on tomorrow, easy-ish 2-0 win
It’s either that or a trip to the mother in laws for me
So you can see my desperation for this game to be on
Similar thoughts have passed through my mind. That I cannot deny.
Please be on.
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If the game is on, I have the added excitement of popping into Currys Selly Oak on the way up to see if I can find a new printer for work.
:)
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59698662
Premier League clubs will meet on Monday to discuss the escalating crisis around the coronavirus pandemic.
Looks like the games that are still on for this weekend will go ahead. The Premier League clubs aren't even meeting to discuss the situation until Monday
Yessssssssssssssssssssss
;D
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Will be sad if Boxing Day match is called off was looking forward to that
Even more so given how Chelsea performed last night.
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Less than 24 hours to go and the match is still on 8)
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Less than 24 hours to go and the match is still on 8)
After Burnley v Watford I would not get your hopes up too high until about 1.45 tomorrow!
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Nakamba ruled out for 12 to 16 weeks after undergoing successful knee surgery. SG expects him back around 14 weeks
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I got an api error when I submitted mine. Now the link says the form has been submitted.
Any ideas?
Filling in the form was easy enough. At least it says that it's submitted. Getting to the Covid pass on the NHS app was a different matter as I lost my phone charger. All sorted now. DON'T FORGET YOUR COVID PASS. It said on the email that you can't get in without it, or a negative test result from the app.
Not sure what I can do. I haven't got any photo ID (no passport, and my driving licence has expired) and therefore can't complete the application for a Covid pass. I've telephoned the NHS and they are sending a letter (by post) that should arrive within 3-5 working days. Clearly I can't go tomorrow, as they obviously won't accept the cards with the confirmation of double-vaccination on them. I just hope the letter turns up for Boxing Day.....
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I got an api error when I submitted mine. Now the link says the form has been submitted.
Any ideas?
Filling in the form was easy enough. At least it says that it's submitted. Getting to the Covid pass on the NHS app was a different matter as I lost my phone charger. All sorted now. DON'T FORGET YOUR COVID PASS. It said on the email that you can't get in without it, or a negative test result from the app.
Not sure what I can do. I haven't got any photo ID (no passport, and my driving licence has expired) and therefore can't complete the application for a Covid pass. I've telephoned the NHS and they are sending a letter (by post) that should arrive within 3-5 working days. Clearly I can't go tomorrow, as they obviously won't accept the cards with the confirmation of double-vaccination on them. I just hope the letter turns up for Boxing Day.....
You don't need a photo though do you? I've not uploaded one to mine and I've used my pass over here and in Ireland.
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To get a Covid Pass you need photo ID - I telephoned 119 and they confirmed this - they said that all they could do was post a letter to confirm my status (once they'd checked my vaccination history) but weren't able to email this.....
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To get a Covid Pass you need photo ID - I telephoned 119 and they confirmed this - they said that all they could do was post a letter to confirm my status (once they'd checked my vaccination history) but weren't able to email this.....
Well I like I said, I didn't upload a photo and I've got a covid pass. Anyone else not uploaded a photo?
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I'm not bringing photo ID. I have a Covid Pass and that's all that's required. I've seen nothing to suggest anything different.
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To get a Covid Pass you need photo ID - I telephoned 119 and they confirmed this - they said that all they could do was post a letter to confirm my status (once they'd checked my vaccination history) but weren't able to email this.....
Well I like I said, I didn't upload a photo and I've got a covid pass. Anyone else not uploaded a photo?
I didn’t. Just downloaded a pass from the NHS app. Saved in apple wallet. Jobs a good ‘un. I’ll be getting there earlier than usual though as I’m anticipating delays getting in.
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Nakamba ruled out for 12 to 16 weeks after undergoing successful knee surgery. SG expects him back around 14 weeks
Yeah just heard the news, wish him a speedy recovery, has been superb this season.
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Horrible, scrappy, niggly game if Burnley get their way.
If we play as we did against Norwich though we'll be too good for them.
2-0 to us.
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To get a Covid Pass you need photo ID - I telephoned 119 and they confirmed this - they said that all they could do was post a letter to confirm my status (once they'd checked my vaccination history) but weren't able to email this.....
Well I like I said, I didn't upload a photo and I've got a covid pass. Anyone else not uploaded a photo?
I didn’t. Just downloaded a pass from the NHS app. Saved in apple wallet. Jobs a good ‘un. I’ll be getting there earlier than usual though as I’m anticipating delays getting in.
Same here. At no stage have I had to upload any photo ID
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Before I got the app I did need to go through a process where I had to record myself talking and they matched it to my passport photo.
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Before I got the app I did need to go through a process where I had to record myself talking and they matched it to my passport photo.
Same here from what I remember. Once set up, obtaining and updating the covid pass is straightforward. It's the getting there that's the arse ache.
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Geezer in the pub has heard the game is off.
Obviously true
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Geezer in the pub has heard the game is off.
Obviously true
Was it the same Nostradamus-esque seer who foretold of the career ending injury to Danny Ings?
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Geezer in the pub has heard the game is off.
Obviously true
Oh, is that where he goes now Black Sabbath have split up?
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To get a Covid Pass you need photo ID - I telephoned 119 and they confirmed this - they said that all they could do was post a letter to confirm my status (once they'd checked my vaccination history) but weren't able to email this.....
Well I like I said, I didn't upload a photo and I've got a covid pass. Anyone else not uploaded a photo?
I didn’t. Just downloaded a pass from the NHS app. Saved in apple wallet. Jobs a good ‘un. I’ll be getting there earlier than usual though as I’m anticipating delays getting in.
Same here. At no stage have I had to upload any photo ID
Tried to upload a negative LFT......need my NHS number.....which I haven't got.......F**K
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My 10yr old has just given a positive LFT so we won’t be able to go tomorrow now. Would have only been his second game, he’s gutted. I know it’s short notice but if I email the ticket office do you think they’ll refund given the circumstances?
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To get a Covid Pass you need photo ID - I telephoned 119 and they confirmed this - they said that all they could do was post a letter to confirm my status (once they'd checked my vaccination history) but weren't able to email this.....
Well I like I said, I didn't upload a photo and I've got a covid pass. Anyone else not uploaded a photo?
I didn’t. Just downloaded a pass from the NHS app. Saved in apple wallet. Jobs a good ‘un. I’ll be getting there earlier than usual though as I’m anticipating delays getting in.
Same here. At no stage have I had to upload any photo ID
Tried to upload a negative LFT......need my NHS number.....which I haven't got.......F**K
I didn’t have mine either but there was an option to enter postcode, date of birth etc and they found my details from that
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Managed to find a letter with my NHS number on. Thank f**k for that. Take care everyone tomorrow x
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My 10yr old has just given a positive LFT so we won’t be able to go tomorrow now. Would have only been his second game, he’s gutted. I know it’s short notice but if I email the ticket office do you think they’ll refund given the circumstances?
Can't see why not? Someone on here should know. You could tweet one of their staff accounts also.
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My 10yr old has just given a positive LFT so we won’t be able to go tomorrow now. Would have only been his second game, he’s gutted. I know it’s short notice but if I email the ticket office do you think they’ll refund given the circumstances?
Can't see why not? Someone on here should know. You could tweet one of their staff accounts also.
Thanks, I’ll try that. Just emailed them and auto reply states can take 3 days to reply. I’m going to call them tomorrow too I think!
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Good luck yammers.
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To get a Covid Pass you need photo ID - I telephoned 119 and they confirmed this - they said that all they could do was post a letter to confirm my status (once they'd checked my vaccination history) but weren't able to email this.....
Well I like I said, I didn't upload a photo and I've got a covid pass. Anyone else not uploaded a photo?
My Covid pass has no photo ID.
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Villa -2 Minecraft badge wearing shithouses - 0
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A Moss (sic) red card would be nice.
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Can't sleep so just watched Dyche's press conference. He's a wanker.
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Can't sleep so just watched Dyche's press conference. He's a wanker.
Thank you for this information.
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Can't sleep so just watched Dyche's press conference. He's a wanker.
watch it on repeat - you'll soon be asleep
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I have an irrational hatred for Shit Coat.
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Decided this morning that the infection rate is too high to risk my family Xmas - sad, but I won't be there today.
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Decided this morning that the infection rate is too high to risk my family Xmas - sad, but I won't be there today.
same
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Can't sleep so just watched Dyche's press conference. He's a wanker.
FFS Pads, you just made me watch it as well. I usually quite like him, but he was a right twat with the first journalist.
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Can't sleep so just watched Dyche's press conference. He's a wanker.
I'll answer if you like
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Can't sleep so just watched Dyche's press conference. He's a wanker.
FFS Pads, you just made me watch it as well. I usually quite like him, but he was a right twat with the first journalist.
And the last one. What an unnecessarily snarky twat.
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Decided this morning that the infection rate is too high to risk my family Xmas - sad, but I won't be there today.
same
Wear a good mask?
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Less than five hours to go and the match still hasn't been called off!
;D ;D ;D
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I just hope we get a decent ref because these are dirty fuckers. Any scissor tackles from Mee that cripple our players should be immediately punished.
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Good luck yammers.
Thanks! Still on hold!
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Less than five hours to go and the match still hasn't been called off!
;D ;D ;D
don't worry - it'll get called off about 1pm.
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I just hope we get a decent ref because these are dirty fuckers. Any scissor tackles from Mee that cripple our players should be immediately punished.
…by a sniper
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Less than five hours to go and the match still hasn't been called off!
;D ;D ;D
don't worry - it'll get called off about 1pm.
Don't say that :'(
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Decided this morning that the infection rate is too high to risk my family Xmas - sad, but I won't be there today.
same
We've reluctantly decided the same.
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Not gonna be easy today, outside the top 3 Mee and Tarkowski are as good a partnership as any. Cornet also looks a talent, though there is a doubt about him, but whether he plays or not still think we'll give his team a good licking!
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Not gonna be easy today, outside the top 3 Mee and Tarkowski are as good a partnership as any. Cornet also looks a talent, though there is a doubt about him, but whether he plays or not still think we'll give his team a good licking!
Pity they haven't got a wafer thin defence.
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Decided this morning that the infection rate is too high to risk my family Xmas - sad, but I won't be there today.
same
We've reluctantly decided the same.
Same here! :'( I'll listen to the dulcet tones of Garry Thompson on the radio instead.
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Not gonna be easy today, outside the top 3 Mee and Tarkowski are as good a partnership as any. Cornet also looks a talent, though there is a doubt about him, but whether he plays or not still think we'll give his team a good licking!
Cornet is doubtful, apparently. Hamstring injury.
From the Guardian, our injury list is as follows: Traoré (hamstring, Jan), Bailey (hamstring, unknown), Nakamba (knee, unknown), Sanson (Covid-19), Steer (Covid-19), El Ghazi (Covid-19)
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Decided this morning that the infection rate is too high to risk my family Xmas - sad, but I won't be there today.
same
We've reluctantly decided the same.
Same, but I've just had a row with the missus so I'm teetering on going again
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With loads of people not going today, I'm in with a chance of getting a pie in the Witton Upper at half time. That's if I leave my seat at 3:30 of course.
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Gonna be a challenge getting there.Stourbridge trains are as rare as a villa penalty
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I'm 2½ days out of covid jail. If I'm not pretty safe all round now from both giving and receiving, then surely we're all doomed.
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I guess the number of people not going will make it safer for those who are going!
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Gregg Evan's on Twitter saying Villa have had more positive covid cases overnight and waiting in an update on whether the game goes ahead.
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Officially off
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Postponed according to sky
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Postponed.
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Raging.
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Was going but can’t say I’m upset it’s off
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Depressed now. And angry for the poor buggers from both teams who've travelled up to it.
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Nice of them to give decent notice. ::)
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I understand that it's done for safety but f**k me they could have let us know earlier. Already on route to the ground and spent a fortune in petrol and tickets the week before Christmas. Shambolic.
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My kids just got to the Barton’s
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What a b'stard for all the Villa & Burnley people on their way to the game! Feel for you all! XXX
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All games should have been pulled yesterday.
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My kids just got to the Barton’s
I am on the bus there now having spent two and a half hours on a packed train
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I'm gutted. Was really looking forward to it.
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FFS make it mandatory for players to get vaccinated and then play the game regardless of positive tests. Premier League need to sort this out.
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Wow. That’s late notice !!
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Less than five hours to go and the match still hasn't been called off!
;D ;D ;D
don't worry - it'll get called off about 1pm.
I told you so.
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Was about to leave the house, havent got far to go to be fair, but gutted all the same. I know there are more important things going on, but go to the Villa is something to look forwards to. The notice is shite for all those people from both clubs travelling a distance, surely they could of tested players and called this, this morning at the latest.
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Luckily I am running late. I was just about to set off.
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If there was any chance this was going to be called off today, it should have been decided several hours ago.
Pisss poor.
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Just arrived in Aston. 3.5 Hours to see game off. FFS
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All games should have been pulled yesterday.
I agree.
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Geezer in the pub has heard the game is off.
Obviously true
I’ll have to get some more info off him
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FFS.
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If it is down to players testing positive it is a disgrace.
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FFS make it mandatory for players to get vaccinated and then play the game regardless of positive tests. Premier League need to sort this out.
That would obviously not be good.
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What a complete fiasco. But it's only fans wasting their money and time. Don't worry about them, they'll be back.
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They test the players the day before the game & don’t get the results until the morning of the game. So if they get more positive results I don’t see how they could tell us earlier.
It’s probably for the best.
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Luckily hadn't set off for the game but feel sorry for those that are travelling distances.
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If it is down to players testing positive it is a disgrace.
Sack them all.
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They test the players the day before the game & don’t get the results until the morning of the game. So if they get more positive results I don’t see how they could tell us earlier.
It’s probably for the best.
you would think a multi million pound business has the capability of getting tests turned around quicker than this.
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It might be wise for the clubs to put together and get a testing lab up and running that returns the results the same day. Or take a 2 week break and have footballers back in bubbles on return.
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If it is down to players testing positive it is a disgrace.
Sack them all.
See above.or below.
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What a fucking joke. 4 hours on the M1 for nothing. If anyone else can get a 1 hour pcr test to travel I don’t see why the same can’t happen for these players. Total shambles.
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A shambles to let it get this close to kick off.
Letting down a lot of people. Pathetic.
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FFS make it mandatory for players to get vaccinated and then play the game regardless of positive tests. Premier League need to sort this out.
Or just call the whole weekend programme off
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Well that's a bugger. Luckily we were running late today and hadn't even made the M62 yet.
Get all the squads together. Big covid party. Lock em up for 10 days and then football uninterrupted.
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I guess with 10 days isolation for those just testing positive, then Chelsea also unlikely to go ahead?
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A shambles to let it get this close to kick off.
Letting down a lot of people. Pathetic.
pretty much everybody has already set off and therefore increasing the risk of catching it.
So they have unnecessarily put people at risk.
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Yeah I reckon that's it till Jan >:(
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Day four of isolating with COVID and I am climbing the walls. Finding a dodgy stream to watch the game was going to be the highlight of today.
Could more be done to protect outbreaks at clubs inc educating players on the value of vaccines and quicker test turnarounds?
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I was really looking forward to it even though a few of our usual suspects had dropped out for a number of reasons. Still, I can now concentrate on finishing off the assembly of this wardrobe. 🤥
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They test the players the day before the game & don’t get the results until the morning of the game. So if they get more positive results I don’t see how they could tell us earlier.
It’s probably for the best.
you would think a multi million pound business has the capability of getting tests turned around quicker than this.
Yep I it was within 3hrs PCR (obv on-site labs) that stopped me travelling 72hrs in advance, but presumably it might have been PCR tests swabbed first thing today.
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Who actually makes the decision to pull a fixture? I ask because Villa as a club are normally pretty considerate of their fans.
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Who actually makes the decision to pull a fixture? I ask because Villa as a club are normally pretty considerate of their fans.
The Premier League at the request of the club, The Club are massively at fault here.
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It's disappointing that it has been left so late. People travel from all over the country to support Villa (and other clubs). Why wasn't this done yesterday?The Burnley fans won't be happy. The club should re-imburse fans (including the Burnley fans) travelling long distances. They won't be so lax again.
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Just about to leave Chateau Martin when I started getting texts - I bet the Burnley lot are a bit pissed about it because they were probably here by then.
That's it - no more football till next year I reckon.
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Less than five hours to go and the match still hasn't been called off!
;D ;D ;D
don't worry - it'll get called off about 1pm.
Any tips for tonight’s lottery?
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It's disappointing that it has been left so late. People travel from all over the country to support Villa (and other clubs). Why wasn't this done yesterday?The Burnley fans won't be happy. The club should re-imburse fans (including the Burnley fans) travelling long distances. They won't be so lax again.
Tbf the clubs have done all they can, but the premier league !?
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This is a farce. Premier League should have knocked all games on the head on Thursday.
Caught a train up to Brum from Llanelli at 7.20 this morning for the game.
Now heading back.
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FFS make it mandatory for players to get vaccinated and then play the game regardless of positive tests. Premier League need to sort this out.
100% this. I heard yesterday that 25% of premier league players haven't been vaccinated. I know some players are a bit thick but that's ridiculous.
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It's disappointing that it has been left so late. People travel from all over the country to support Villa (and other clubs). Why wasn't this done yesterday?The Burnley fans won't be happy. The club should re-imburse fans (including the Burnley fans) travelling long distances. They won't be so lax again.
Tbf the clubs have done all they can, but the premier league !?
not getting test results back a few hours before kick off, Is doing all they can?
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Who actually makes the decision to pull a fixture? I ask because Villa as a club are normally pretty considerate of their fans.
The Premier League at the request of the club, The Club are massively at fault here.
Will be interesting to see timeline of results, request to cancel etc. (Not that we ever will)
I think a certain amount of new cases, from swabs done this morning might make the timing unavoidable.
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Makes you wonder if the PL have been politically leaned on to call them off because all of them postponed seems a bit iffy. edit. Sorry missed Arsenal.
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Absolute shambles. People wastin time and money for nothing.
No problem with the game getting called off but ffs do it at like 8-9am
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This is a farce. Premier League should have knocked all games on the head on Thursday.
Caught a train up to Brum from Llanelli at 7.20 this morning for the game.
Now heading back.
Exactly this. It’s not as if everyone doesn’t know what’s coming. Ridiculous leaving it til two hours before kick off.
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Who actually makes the decision to pull a fixture? I ask because Villa as a club are normally pretty considerate of their fans.
The Premier League at the request of the club, The Club are massively at fault here.
Will be interesting to see timeline of results, request to cancel etc. (Not that we ever will)
I think a certain amount of new cases, from swabs done this morning might make the timing unavoidable.
I doubt it.
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Guy in the Tavern flown over from Spain for for the game..
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Just arrived in Aston. 3.5 Hours to see game off. FFS
Fell so sorry for you Richard, I was over halfway here when I found out and I live much closer than you. Safe journey back.Abdolute shit show from our so-called 'well run' club. They send out countless communications about illegal domestic Covid passports, yet not one single email or text notifying of the postponement.
Anyone up for a class action to claim compensation on travelling expenses?
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A Premier League statement said: "After reviewing all the new information provided by Aston Villa this morning and receiving separate medical advice, the [Premier League] Board approved the request as a result of the club not having enough players to field a team. This decision was based on the number of Covid-19 cases, injuries and illness."
(From BBC).
So wondering when villa passed on presumably new positive results…
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Thankfully my son called me just as I was leaving the house to say it was off so I haven’t been inconvenienced, but I feel for all the fans of both clubs who’ve had to travel at great expense for nothing.
Think football needs to be knocked on the head for a couple of weeks at least now.
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Just arrived in Aston. 3.5 Hours to see game off. FFS
Fell so sorry for you Richard, I was over halfway here when I found out and I live much closer than you. Safe journey back.Abdolute shit show from our so-called 'well run' club. They send out countless communications about illegal domestic Covid passports, yet not one single email or text notifying of the postponement.
Anyone up for a class action to claim compensation on travelling expenses?
1322 email, yet I reckon 1247 alert to phone from Villa app, no text yet, apart from the 10.01 don’t travel if symptoms…
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Apparently it's 4 more Villa players ?
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Apparently it's 4 more Villa players ?
they should have been more careful to be honest.
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FFS make it mandatory for players to get vaccinated and then play the game regardless of positive tests. Premier League need to sort this out.
100% this. I heard yesterday that 25% of premier league players haven't been vaccinated. I know some players are a bit thick but that's ridiculous.
100% vaccination wouldn't prevent this. Vaccination doesn't stop positive tests. Now most people have been vaccinated so have at least some protection so aren't badly affected. No reason to cancel the football.
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Club email says
“ The results of PCR tests, which were taken yesterday prior to training as well as Lateral Flow Tests, were received this morning and confirmed further depletion of our playing squad which was already impacted upon for our trip to Norwich in midweek.”
If they did tests yesterday am they could have had results last night easy. Bonkers. Unless it’s lateral flows this morning, which would be wise, but doesn’t read that way.
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This is a farce. Premier League should have knocked all games on the head on Thursday.
Caught a train up to Brum from Llanelli at 7.20 this morning for the game.
Now heading back.
Feel for you. Luckily I don't have to leave home till an hour before the game. It is not fair to fans like yourself and Burnley fans. The least that PL and Villa could do is provide more information like what time did they have the results, how many players and names of those players out of respect to fans. Remember the game is about fans as they always say.
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So they have confirmed the test were taken yesterday but only got the results back this morning,
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Club email says
“ The results of PCR tests, which were taken yesterday prior to training as well as Lateral Flow Tests, were received this morning and confirmed further depletion of our playing squad which was already impacted upon for our trip to Norwich in midweek.”
If they did tests yesterday am they could have had results last night easy. Bonkers. Unless it’s lateral flows this morning, which would be wise, but doesn’t read that way.
it’s pretty clear and a huge fuck up.
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Does that mean that Chelsea will be off because our players will be isolating?
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Club email says
“ The results of PCR tests, which were taken yesterday prior to training as well as Lateral Flow Tests, were received this morning and confirmed further depletion of our playing squad which was already impacted upon for our trip to Norwich in midweek.”
If they did tests yesterday am they could have had results last night easy. Bonkers. Unless it’s later flies this morning, which would be wise, but doesn’t read that way.
When I joined a vaccine study trial at a Wellcome Trust Clinic I had to go in every two weeks to provide blood samples. They always did a PCR test on arrival and made me wait 15 mins fo the result.
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Club email says
“ The results of PCR tests, which were taken yesterday prior to training as well as Lateral Flow Tests, were received this morning and confirmed further depletion of our playing squad which was already impacted upon for our trip to Norwich in midweek.”
If they did tests yesterday am they could have had results last night easy. Bonkers. Unless it’s later flies this morning, which would be wise, but doesn’t read that way.
When I joined a vaccine study trial at a Wellcome Trust Clinic I had to go in every two weeks to provide blood samples. They always did a PCR test on arrival and made me wait 15 mins fo the result.
exactly, there is no excuse for this delay.
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Does that mean that Chelsea will be off because our players will be isolating?
I’d be amazed if the Chelsea game is on.
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Just arrived in Aston. 3.5 Hours to see game off. FFS
Fell so sorry for you Richard, I was over halfway here when I found out and I live much closer than you. Safe journey back.Abdolute shit show from our so-called 'well run' club. They send out countless communications about illegal domestic Covid passports, yet not one single email or text notifying of the postponement.
Anyone up for a class action to claim compensation on travelling expenses?
1322 email, yet I reckon 1247 alert to phone from Villa app, no text yet, apart from the 10.01 don’t travel if symptoms…
Cheers mate, yes I've now had the 13.22hrs email, and I did have the pointless text at 10.02 hours. Heads need to roll over this shambles. I imagine alot of fans from both teams will be in the vicinity of Villa Park before they find out.
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FFS make it mandatory for players to get vaccinated and then play the game regardless of positive tests. Premier League need to sort this out.
100% this. I heard yesterday that 25% of premier league players haven't been vaccinated. I know some players are a bit thick but that's ridiculous.
100% vaccination wouldn't prevent this. Vaccination doesn't stop positive tests. Now most people have been vaccinated so have at least some protection so aren't badly affected. No reason to cancel the football.
Vaccination greatly reduces the chances of catching it therefore makes complete sense to me. Not being vaccinated is certainly not going to help with stopping the spread of the virus.
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So they have confirmed the test were taken yesterday but only got the results back this morning,
Be interested to know WHEN we got the test results. Did it take 4 hours for the Premier League to approve a requested postponement? Or am I giving the club too much credit and they didn’t get the results back until just before the postponement? The details matter, as this has cost fans a lot of time and money.
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FFS make it mandatory for players to get vaccinated and then play the game regardless of positive tests. Premier League need to sort this out.
100% this. I heard yesterday that 25% of premier league players haven't been vaccinated. I know some players are a bit thick but that's ridiculous.
100% vaccination wouldn't prevent this. Vaccination doesn't stop positive tests. Now most people have been vaccinated so have at least some protection so aren't badly affected. No reason to cancel the football.
Vaccination greatly reduces the chances of catching it therefore makes complete sense to me. Not being vaccinated is certainly not going to help with stopping the spread of the virus.
he has been banging this drum all week, that Vaccines don’t stop infections , sad.
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It's disappointing that it has been left so late. People travel from all over the country to support Villa (and other clubs). Why wasn't this done yesterday?The Burnley fans won't be happy. The club should re-imburse fans (including the Burnley fans) travelling long distances. They won't be so lax again.
Tbf the clubs have done all they can, but the premier league !?
not getting test results back a few hours before kick off, Is doing all they can?
Maybe following premier league protocols.
As soon as there was ny doubt it should be down to premier league . Every club has had numerous + tests. Premier league shouldve called the whole weekend of yesterday lunch time at the latest .
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Games don’t get postponed when clubs have injuries.
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Aston Villa 0 Covid 19
Gerrard Out :o
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Over 1200 miles travelled this week to see only 2 Villa games. Today really has been a shambles by the club.
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It's disappointing that it has been left so late. People travel from all over the country to support Villa (and other clubs). Why wasn't this done yesterday?The Burnley fans won't be happy. The club should re-imburse fans (including the Burnley fans) travelling long distances. They won't be so lax again.
Tbf the clubs have done all they can, but the premier league !?
not getting test results back a few hours before kick off, Is doing all they can?
Maybe following premier league protocols.
As soon as there was ny doubt it should be down to premier league . Every club has had numerous + tests. Premier league shouldve called the whole weekend of yesterday lunch time at the latest .
which protocol?
The time it took to make the decision is based on when the club received the test results, see club announcement
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BBC report indicates they had to wait for the Premier League to review and agree to the postponement. So the late notice may not entirely be down to the club.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59665333
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FFS make it mandatory for players to get vaccinated and then play the game regardless of positive tests. Premier League need to sort this out.
100% this. I heard yesterday that 25% of premier league players haven't been vaccinated. I know some players are a bit thick but that's ridiculous.
It makes a nice headline, but it actually means that footballers are more likely to be vaccinated than the general public. So maybe they should be the ones pulling their finger out?
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Why, if before yesterday when tests were taken, it was clear there was already previous positive tests at the club, were players still allowed to mix and pass it on to more players - that’s poor.
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It's diabolical really. Whether its a delay from the club or getting a response from PL to postpone you should have a longer window to warn people against travelling. If that's not possible because of the time needed for tests then a club that already has confirmed cases should postpone 24 hours before.
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Coleshill Town at home at 3pm. See you all there.
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Does that mean that Chelsea will be off because our players will be isolating?
I’d be amazed if the Chelsea game is on.
Villa wouldn't want any disadvantage against Chelsea with players missing?
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I don't believe in compulsory vaccination, but if a quarter of players haven't had it, when their job is to be fit and healthy, fucking hell.
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I only live 10 mins away and I’m pissed off at the late notice. Sensible solution was to postpone yesterday
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Does that mean that Chelsea will be off because our players will be isolating?
I’d be amazed if the Chelsea game is on.
Villa wouldn't want any disadvantage against Chelsea with players missing?
Surely, with Covid only going to get worse the Premier League will have to suspend the season until this variant peaks?
It would be reckless in the extreme to continue.
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Ridiculous. Got the news as we got to the A38 roundabout. Mate from Burnley with us for it as well. Bang out of order.
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Villa told the Prem of the new positives this morning. The Prem League Board are the ones who've been pissing about.
A Premier League statement said: "After reviewing all the new information provided by Aston Villa this morning and receiving separate medical advice, the [Premier League] Board approved the request as a result of the club not having enough players to field a team. This decision was based on the number of Covid-19 cases, injuries and illness."
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Just back i have to use a taxi cost me a lot of money for no game
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Can see people not bothering for a while whilst this shit is going on.
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Stourport Swifts allowing you in for £2 with your Villa season or match day ticket.
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Shocking by the villa a lot of people have pad good money out before chrimbo Should have been called off 2 days ago if there was a problem
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I sold my tickets yesterday and got a partial refund on my train tickets. Unlike others I know who’s train pulled into New Street from London just as Villa announced the postponement. Stupid of the club not to call it off in the week
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Oh well back up the M6 to Macc.
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What are they saying on the Burnley forums? Giving the Villa a roundful of fcuks presumably and rightly so. Shambles.
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I only live 10 mins away and I’m pissed off at the late notice. Sensible solution was to postpone yesterday
Me too, so not much disruption for me, but genuinely feel for our fans and those from Burnley who have wasted time and money today.
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Multiple players/staff managing to catch it in a group of 20-30 max, with regular testing/protocols in place.
Imagine the uptake in contractions after 42k fans mingling at Villa Park for 2-3 hrs, rubbing shoulder to shoulder. It was negligence of the highest order not to foresee this and call the game off during midweek. There’s a lot of ill feeling towards the club/league and wasted time/expense on the part of fans as a result.
The UK saw a rapidly climbing 93,000 confirmed cases yesterday (*almost certainly a tonne more than this in reality). Once again, the Premier League putting money before the fans.
Gutted for the fans who have been put out by this, but a bit of common sense by Villa and the Premier League and it could have all been avoided. 🤷🏼♂️
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Sorry for all those that have traveled, regardless of which team they support.
Instead of trying to appease broadcasters all the time, the PL should have just shut all games down this week through until Boxing Day and there might have been a chance of a reset.
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I was outside Villa Park just about to go into the Holte Suite when I got a call to tell me. Had one pint and came home, the league should have just made a blanket decision to call off all games until the New Year instead of pissing people about like this.
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I would like to know how many of them are actually ill rather than just failing a poxy test.
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I would like to know how many of them are actually ill rather than just failing a poxy test.
What difference would that make? If they’ve got the virus then they are contagious and can spread it to other people who might become ill.
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Villa told the Prem of the new positives this morning. The Prem League Board are the ones who've been pissing about.
A Premier League statement said: "After reviewing all the new information provided by Aston Villa this morning and receiving separate medical advice, the [Premier League] Board approved the request as a result of the club not having enough players to field a team. This decision was based on the number of Covid-19 cases, injuries and illness."
Club's fault for not issuing a statement at the time that they submitted a request for postponement. That would given Burnley and our far away supporters time to make a decision about travelling.
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Villa told the Prem of the new positives this morning. The Prem League Board are the ones who've been pissing about.
A Premier League statement said: "After reviewing all the new information provided by Aston Villa this morning and receiving separate medical advice, the [Premier League] Board approved the request as a result of the club not having enough players to field a team. This decision was based on the number of Covid-19 cases, injuries and illness."
Club's fault for not issuing a statement at the time that they submitted a request for postponement. That would given Burnley and our far away supporters time to make a decision about travelling.
And if the Premier League rejected our appeal?
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Villa told the Prem of the new positives this morning. The Prem League Board are the ones who've been pissing about.
A Premier League statement said: "After reviewing all the new information provided by Aston Villa this morning and receiving separate medical advice, the [Premier League] Board approved the request as a result of the club not having enough players to field a team. This decision was based on the number of Covid-19 cases, injuries and illness."
Club's fault for not issuing a statement at the time that they submitted a request for postponement. That would given Burnley and our far away supporters time to make a decision about travelling.
Yes, that might have helped but if the league had said no then people would be doubly pissed off if they’d cancelled travel arrangements only for the game to go ahead.
Clubs should not have been put in this position in the first place.
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The Club and Premier league don’t give a Shit about the travelling fans
They will be losing no sleep over the inconvenience not a single wink
It’s an absolute disgrace by all Concerned
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Villa told the Prem of the new positives this morning. The Prem League Board are the ones who've been pissing about.
A Premier League statement said: "After reviewing all the new information provided by Aston Villa this morning and receiving separate medical advice, the [Premier League] Board approved the request as a result of the club not having enough players to field a team. This decision was based on the number of Covid-19 cases, injuries and illness."
Club's fault for not issuing a statement at the time that they submitted a request for postponement. That would given Burnley and our far away supporters time to make a decision about travelling.
Yes, that might have helped but if the league had said no then people would be doubly pissed off if they’d cancelled travel arrangements only for the game to go ahead.
Clubs should not have been put in this position in the first place.
Is the correct answer, should have been postponed in the week.
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I have called the switchboard at Villa Park in order to 'vent'. Unfortunately Christian Purslow was not available.
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Villa told the Prem of the new positives this morning. The Prem League Board are the ones who've been pissing about.
A Premier League statement said: "After reviewing all the new information provided by Aston Villa this morning and receiving separate medical advice, the [Premier League] Board approved the request as a result of the club not having enough players to field a team. This decision was based on the number of Covid-19 cases, injuries and illness."
Club's fault for not issuing a statement at the time that they submitted a request for postponement. That would given Burnley and our far away supporters time to make a decision about travelling.
And if the Premier League rejected our appeal?
It's not an appeal it's a request based on good authoritative data and responsibly stating that the Villa do not have enough players to field a team. No request made by clubs on actual match days have been rejected so far.
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Can see people not bothering for a while whilst this shit is going on.
I didn't travel down this morning because I didn't want to risk having to isolate over the family Christmas. Had I done so, I'd have been there before the official announcement (260 miles round trip).
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Likewise for the reasoning… No way was I risking not enjoying Xmas with the family (more so considering restrictions last Xmas, where we didn’t get to see most of family) for the sake of ‘Dyche-ball’ 😴
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Apparently it's 4 more Villa players ?
they should have been more careful to be honest.
Surely we should be staying in a hotel night before game with players in separate rooms?
Would be disappointing if players were with families overnight, caught the virus from family and tested positive this morning I presume getting to Bodymoor around 9am.
In terms of "hardship" it's not too much to ask given we always spend away matches at hotels and didn't have any additional cases before Norwich game.
Only travelling in from Sutton so feel for those who were coming in from various parts of u.k to watch today, said a few days they really should've called this off Friday evening or Saturday morning at latest, 12.45pm really isn't good enough when people are starting to set off so need to improve testing procedure for sure if it can't be done quicker.
I'd be surprised if we played again this year tbh. Think next time we'll play is the Monday night in the FA cup unless premier league put a new midweek round for Jan 5th if plenty of xmas games get wiped out as looks pretty certain currently.
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Blaming the Villa for what they could or couldn't have done, even if they were allowed to do it, distracts from the real culprits. The Premier League should have scrapped this week's fixtures.
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Premier League informed of #AVFC new positive cases 10am; then follows verification of total player availability - including Covid, injury, illness - between club & PL medical depts. PL board convened 12pm; decision 40 mins later. Not ideal for fans but that is the agreed process (Sam Wallace)
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well the process is fucking shit then
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Blaming the Villa for what they could or couldn't have done, even if they were allowed to do it, distracts from the real culprits. The Premier League should have scrapped this week's fixtures.
Yep, they should have. What annoys me most is all the talk is of players coming down with the virus, but not a mention of fan safety 🤯
That supposed meeting happening this coming Monday should have happened this week, as soon clubs started dropping like flies.
Utter negligence… all about the money.
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The Club and Premier league don’t give a Shit about the travelling fans
They will be losing no sleep over the inconvenience not a single wink
It’s an absolute disgrace by all Concerned
100% this - and that apology by the club is crap.
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The club will have notified the PL at the earliest opportunity. In all honesty it was bordering on criminal that the game was taking place with 40k people & cases at the level they are.
Games will restart on 8th January & I don't think fans will be there or if they are it will be a reduced capacity.
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Premier League informed of #AVFC new positive cases 10am; then follows verification of total player availability - including Covid, injury, illness - between club & PL medical depts. PL board convened 12pm; decision 40 mins later. Not ideal for fans but that is the agreed process (Sam Wallace)
Is the premier league board still full of old men who don't get up early (given Ellis was on it for years).
Two hours between us informing the prem there was issue with today and then them only starting to form a decision which took another 40 minutes?
Decision reached by half 11 wouldn't have stopped everyone leaving the house but at least the Burnley fans wouldn't have been that far down the M6 rather than about to park up in Witton when they were told to turn back.
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Offer players 50 thousand pounds to get the jabs, you soon seeing them queuing up
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Offer players 50 thousand pounds to get the jabs, you soon seeing them queuing up
a weeks wages - that's probably not going to encourage them.
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Offer players 50 thousand pounds to get the jabs, you soon seeing them queuing up
a weeks wages - that's probably not going to encourage them.
Think telling anyone not jabbed at all to spend night before home game in hotel away from family is worth considering (jabbed players can spend it at home). That would be one incentive perhaps as I assume some of the ones who tested positive from Friday-Saturday were probably innocently playing with their kids and picked it up from them.
Certainly would be expecting whoever is in the squad who have been double vaxxed to be getting their boosters this week, would have no issue if that's deemed queue jumping.
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Offer players 50 thousand pounds to get the jabs, you soon seeing them queuing up
If they have entrenched beliefs it won't make a jot of difference.
Meanwhile, I wonder how many of those who were en route to the game before it was postponed will now be in the pub?
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Offer players 50 thousand pounds to get the jabs, you soon seeing them queuing up
a weeks wages - that's probably not going to encourage them.
Think telling anyone not jabbed at all to spend night before home game in hotel away from family is worth considering (jabbed players can spend it at home). That would be one incentive perhaps as I assume some of the ones who tested positive from Friday-Saturday were probably innocently playing with their kids and picked it up from them.
Certainly would be expecting whoever is in the squad who have been double vaxxed to be getting their boosters this week, would have no issue if that's deemed queue jumping.
How do we know it’s no players who are already vaccinated that have got the virus? You do all realise you can still get it whether vaccinated or not? I was double jabbed and had been since April but still managed to get it in July.
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Just arrived in Aston. 3.5 Hours to see game off. FFS
Fell so sorry for you Richard, I was over halfway here when I found out and I live much closer than you. Safe journey back.Abdolute shit show from our so-called 'well run' club. They send out countless communications about illegal domestic Covid passports, yet not one single email or text notifying of the postponement.
Anyone up for a class action to claim compensation on travelling expenses?
1322 email, yet I reckon 1247 alert to phone from Villa app, no text yet, apart from the 10.01 don’t travel if symptoms…
Yep, text at 10am to say not to attend with symptoms, but no text to say that the game was off.
I’d just picked up a sarnie in Perry Bar and was walking back to my car when I had a message off a mate to say it was off.
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Anyone who tested positive yesterday (for this morning’s results) was likely exposed at LEAST 48 hours earlier, more likely no later than Tuesday - you simply don’t become contagious that quickly. I’d imagine if we’ve got a few more players gone down today, there will be more test positive before it gets better (unless we’ve been doing distanced no contact training all week?)
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Stop moaning all you bits of kids. I remember parking up at Old Trafford just as a game was called off once. I didn’t phone 0898 12 11 48 attempting to vent my spleen.
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Blaming the Villa for what they could or couldn't have done, even if they were allowed to do it, distracts from the real culprits. The Premier League should have scrapped this week's fixtures.
Yes I think that’s correct.
I was going today but deep down I wasn’t feeling it at all.
With the way this variant is spreading (mild or not) I think all of this weekends games should have been called off.
Unfortunately it’s not looking great for large crowds at the moment.
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Anyone who tested positive yesterday (for this morning’s results) was likely exposed at LEAST 48 hours earlier, more likely no later than Tuesday - you simply don’t become contagious that quickly. I’d imagine if we’ve got a few more players gone down today, there will be more test positive before it gets better (unless we’ve been doing distanced no contact training all week?)
Didn’t look like they were from the training pics released by the club yesterday.
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Scandalous from the Premier League. As soon as the Burnley Watford game was cancelled at short notice, they should have realised it was possible/likely that the same would happen to all games. If players were awaiting PCR results from Friday this was always a strong likelihood. Fucking twats, people have wasted all sorts of money this close to Christmas.
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Anyone who tested positive yesterday (for this morning’s results) was likely exposed at LEAST 48 hours earlier, more likely no later than Tuesday - you simply don’t become contagious that quickly. I’d imagine if we’ve got a few more players gone down today, there will be more test positive before it gets better (unless we’ve been doing distanced no contact training all week?)
Didn’t look like they were from the training pics released by the club yesterday.
And therein lies the challenge, to prepare a team well whilst the risk of doing so is that you won’t be able to put one out.
The wonders of hindsight but now makes massive sense:
Match of the Day commentator Jonathan Pearce, speaking on Football Focus
In my opinion, the league missed out on an opportunity. If they had called every game off from Wednesday night onwards, it would have given a 10-day isolation period before the Boxing Day matches.
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Chelsea is surely gone now too? If we don't have enough players now then we won't on the 26th either.
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Stop moaning all you bits of kids. I remember parking up at Old Trafford just as a game was called off once. I didn’t phone 0898 12 11 48 attempting to vent my spleen.
you're just doing it here now ;)
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Chelsea is surely gone now too? If we don't have enough players now then we won't on the 26th either.
You would think so. Anybody positive today how to isolate from today, or earlier if they were symptomatic. That takes them to after Christmas in nearly all cases.
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Yes I don't see how boxing day can happen unless there are a load of false positives. I am sceptical about Leeds as well
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I am sceptical about Leeds as well
I think they are ******.
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Villa can put all the safeguards they like in place, but the players then go home and make contact with their families (who could have been in contact with any Tom, dick or Harry), or the younger less tied down players such as Dougie or Leon, off out partying with their extended group of ‘friends’ - As an example, Sanson had posted pics of a family trip to Disneyland Paris recently. Is that really a wise thing to do mid-season in the middle of an upturn of a pandemic?
I’m not saying they have to live like nuns, but they are paid handsome amounts to stay as fit and healthy as possible, to enable them to be called upon for matchdays. They, above all people should be keeping as low a profile as possible to minimise transmission. They need to shoulder some of the blame in all of this too imo.
However, that aside, fan safety should be the paramount priority in all of this, and 42k in a packed out villa park when there were 92k confirmed cases the previous day (and climbing) shows utter negligence towards the fan base imo. Fans would turn up to support the team no matter what, and the league is playing with this devotion, irrespective of the covid situation. They should be taking the decision out of fans hands to keep everyone safe (ie. Not just the fans who decide to turn up regardless of the risk, but the people they would make contact with over the coming days post-match).
I think it’s done till FA Cup third round now. And rightly so imo.
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the players have played a blinder here, they get xmas off now.
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On the back of the gushing tweet about Rat Boys return, it's another poor piece of PR from the club
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Well presumably those players isolating before Norwich will be available so not as many out for Chelsea?
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Depends if they recover. Lot of young fit people take weeks to get over it
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I guess that the only way to ensure safety is to test everyone (including the players) before they enter the ground. It would be a pain but at least the matches could go ahead. Nobody carrying the virus, vaccinated or not, would be allowed to enter. There would be depleted teams but football would go ahead and maybe some of the younger players would get a chance.
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Offer players 50 thousand pounds to get the jabs, you soon seeing them queuing up
a weeks wages - that's probably not going to encourage them.
Think telling anyone not jabbed at all to spend night before home game in hotel away from family is worth considering (jabbed players can spend it at home). That would be one incentive perhaps as I assume some of the ones who tested positive from Friday-Saturday were probably innocently playing with their kids and picked it up from them.
Certainly would be expecting whoever is in the squad who have been double vaxxed to be getting their boosters this week, would have no issue if that's deemed queue jumping.
How do we know it’s no players who are already vaccinated that have got the virus? You do all realise you can still get it whether vaccinated or not? I was double jabbed and had been since April but still managed to get it in July.
It's a tricky one.
Obviously all the data shows double vaxxed + booster means very little chance of ending up in hospital with severe illness. No vaccination at all and picking up virus and passing it on could endanger the individual significantly more and anyone in their inner circle not vaxxed either.
Will have to make a judgement call I think once the data comes through of how significant the variant is at putting people into hospital otherwise you might aswell just call the season off as unrealistic to think January won't be disrupted given variant will still be sweeping through the U.K.
If this bugger of a virus can ever morph into a cold like virus then it's not a problem at all and football can just continue as normal. Long way off that I suspect.
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The PL should have called off this whole weekend. Total shit show.
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Offer players 50 thousand pounds to get the jabs, you soon seeing them queuing up
I wasn't offered a few days wages to get the jabs. I did it out of a sense of social responsibility. As I trust everyone reading this also did.
Nope, should be all stick here IMV. I'd go as far as no jab, no job. You don't get the jab, you don't play and you don't train. Ideally it would be you don't get paid either, but I suppose that wouldn't survive legal challenge.
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I am sceptical about Leeds as well
I think they are ******.
Lol
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The club cant unilaterally call it off. The Premier League make the call. The results didn't come until this morning. The club notified the Premier League who took some time.
The club couldn't call it off yesterday as there weren't confirmed cases.
The argument us whether the Premier League could and should have.
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On the back of the gushing tweet about Rat Boys return, it's another poor piece of PR from the club
Why is it poor PR from the club? What were they supposed to do? This will have inconvenienced a lot of people, from Burnley fans making the trip south through to the catering manager would will have 20,000 uneaten balti pies, etc. But the fixture was untenable without sufficient players. But then the test results were only known today.
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I wasn't offered a few days wages to get the jabs. I did it out of a sense of social responsibility. As I trust everyone reading this also did.
No, not me. I had the booster because I didn't want Covid.
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Blaming the Villa for what they could or couldn't have done, even if they were allowed to do it, distracts from the real culprits. The Premier League should have scrapped this week's fixtures.
They need to now postpone all games after tomorrow until such a time as the inevitable circuit breaker lockdown finishes. Including the FA Cup. If it means the season has to be extended then so be it. The Qatar World Cup is going to nix the regular season structure next season anyway.
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Oh well, it happens and it was probably the most sensible thing to do. The positive is we are one game closer to the transfer window.
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Match of the Day commentator Jonathan Pearce, speaking on Football Focus
In my opinion, the league missed out on an opportunity. If they had called every game off from Wednesday night onwards, it would have given a 10-day isolation period before the Boxing Day matches.
I preferred the bit where he sympathised with the fans the gist of which was 'not just those from Burnley and Birmingham but fans who travel from all around the World to watch football in this wonderful Theatre".
I'd imagine that caused a few expletives to be uttered by those viewing in Small Heath. :D
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Trying to pull a positive out of this PL caused shit show….as it’s likely our next couple of games are off too those on four bookings will be past the reset date before we play again?
I’d have good money that PL ‘protocols’ would have forbidden Villa or Burnley to post on website / social media that a request had gone in to cancel game before the 12 noon meeting
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It's 19 games played for the cut off, halfway point, so the postponements won't change that.
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Match of the Day commentator Jonathan Pearce, speaking on Football Focus
In my opinion, the league missed out on an opportunity. If they had called every game off from Wednesday night onwards, it would have given a 10-day isolation period before the Boxing Day matches.
I preferred the bit where he sympathised with the fans the gist of which was 'not just those from Burnley and Birmingham but fans who travel from all around the World to watch football in this wonderful Theatre".
I'd imagine that caused a few expletives to be uttered by those viewing in Small Heath. :D
Pearce seems to like us.
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One thing I would like to see be published by the premier league is a list by club how many players are unvaccinated
This in my view could help determine if a game should be called off …. For instance if the majority are not vaccinated then under 23s should make up a team
I have no idea what our situation is but since we were hit last season as well it makes me wonder
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Offer players 50 thousand pounds to get the jabs, you soon seeing them queuing up
a weeks wages - that's probably not going to encourage them.
Think telling anyone not jabbed at all to spend night before home game in hotel away from family is worth considering (jabbed players can spend it at home). That would be one incentive perhaps as I assume some of the ones who tested positive from Friday-Saturday were probably innocently playing with their kids and picked it up from them.
Certainly would be expecting whoever is in the squad who have been double vaxxed to be getting their boosters this week, would have no issue if that's deemed queue jumping.
How do we know it’s no players who are already vaccinated that have got the virus? You do all realise you can still get it whether vaccinated or not? I was double jabbed and had been since April but still managed to get it in July.
Yep its a red herring in terms of the game being called off. I got the virus back in late August 8 weeks after my 2nd jab. Obviously getting vaccinated is really important and i do think whether they like it or not, these role models not getting vaccinated in fairly big numbers is irresponsible. But its conflating two issues blaming the covid rates amongst footballers to vaccination rates.
I was proper rough for a week when i had it and still cant smell nearly 3 months later, but God knows where i would of ended up without the jabs.
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Depends if they recover. Lot of young fit people take weeks to get over it
Presumably they're asymptomatic, otherwise the club will have known how many were positive before now? Sounds like yesterday's Lateral Flow Tests were clear as well, which is why it had to wait until today for the PCR tests
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I think unvaccinated players in the PL should be made to play in traditional Dutch wooden clogs until they get doubled vaxed and boostered.
That'd soon change their minds.
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I think unvaccinated players in the PL should be made to play in traditional Dutch wooden clogs until they get doubled vaxed and boostered.
That'd soon change their minds.
And wet, woollen knickerbockers.
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Match of the Day commentator Jonathan Pearce, speaking on Football Focus
In my opinion, the league missed out on an opportunity. If they had called every game off from Wednesday night onwards, it would have given a 10-day isolation period before the Boxing Day matches.
I preferred the bit where he sympathised with the fans the gist of which was 'not just those from Burnley and Birmingham but fans who travel from all around the World to watch football in this wonderful Theatre".
I'd imagine that caused a few expletives to be uttered by those viewing in Small Heath. :D
Pearce seems to like us.
Believe he was a student at Birmingham Uni and watched Villa in our league winning 1981 season.
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7 (http://7) Match of the Day commentator Jonathan Pearce, speaking on Football Focus
In my opinion, the league missed out on an opportunity. If they had called every game off from Wednesday night onwards, it would have given a 10-day isolation period before the Boxing Day matches.
I preferred the bit where he sympathised with the fans the gist of which was 'not just those from Burnley and Birmingham but fans who travel from all around the World to watch football in this wonderful Theatre".
I'd imagine that caused a few expletives to be uttered by those viewing in Small Heath. :D
Pearce seems to like us.
Believe he was a student at Birmingham Uni and watched Villa in our league winning 1981 season.
that would do it, I hear he has turned up at the Barton’s occasionally
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Pearce seems to like us.
Believe he was a student at Birmingham Uni and watched Villa in our league winning 1981 season.
that would do it, I hear he has turned up at the Barton’s occasionally
Does always seem very complimentary about us but he didn't look that well on TV today and I wonder if he might be overdoing it.
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On the back of the gushing tweet about Rat Boys return, it's another poor piece of PR from the club
It's not the club's fault. Let's face it, there's only one person to blame here with his excessive fate tempting. ;)
Still on? 8)
Yessssssssssssssssssssss ;D
Less than 24 hours to go and the match is still on 8)
Less than five hours to go and the match still hasn't been called off!
;D ;D ;D
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I think unvaccinated players in the PL should be made to play in traditional Dutch wooden clogs until they get doubled vaxed and boostered.
That'd soon change their minds.
And wet, woollen knickerbockers.
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Match of the Day commentator Jonathan Pearce, speaking on Football Focus
In my opinion, the league missed out on an opportunity. If they had called every game off from Wednesday night onwards, it would have given a 10-day isolation period before the Boxing Day matches.
I preferred the bit where he sympathised with the fans the gist of which was 'not just those from Burnley and Birmingham but fans who travel from all around the World to watch football in this wonderful Theatre".
I'd imagine that caused a few expletives to be uttered by those viewing in Small Heath. :D
Pearce seems to like us.
Know him. A top man. Supports Bristol city as his his dad played for them but stood on the holte many times with.him. always tries to get a quote into the commentary that only villa fans would get.
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Stop moaning all you bits of kids. I remember parking up at Old Trafford just as a game was called off once. I didn’t phone 0898 12 11 48 attempting to vent my spleen.
It's 0333 323 1874, option 0 for switchboard, actually ;)
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Match of the Day commentator Jonathan Pearce, speaking on Football Focus
In my opinion, the league missed out on an opportunity. If they had called every game off from Wednesday night onwards, it would have given a 10-day isolation period before the Boxing Day matches.
I preferred the bit where he sympathised with the fans the gist of which was 'not just those from Burnley and Birmingham but fans who travel from all around the World to watch football in this wonderful Theatre".
I'd imagine that caused a few expletives to be uttered by those viewing in Small Heath. :D
Pearce seems to like us.
Know him. A top man. Supports Bristol city as his his dad played for them but stood on the holte many times with.him. always tries to get a quote into the commentary that only villa fans would get.
Interesting. How do you know him CCR?
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Match of the Day commentator Jonathan Pearce, speaking on Football Focus
In my opinion, the league missed out on an opportunity. If they had called every game off from Wednesday night onwards, it would have given a 10-day isolation period before the Boxing Day matches.
I preferred the bit where he sympathised with the fans the gist of which was 'not just those from Burnley and Birmingham but fans who travel from all around the World to watch football in this wonderful Theatre".
I'd imagine that caused a few expletives to be uttered by those viewing in Small Heath. :D
Pearce seems to like us.
Know him. A top man. Supports Bristol city as his his dad played for them but stood on the holte many times with.him. always tries to get a quote into the commentary that only villa fans would get.
Interesting. How do you know him CCR?
Was best mates with one of my best mates. Top man. Some years ago we went to Charlton on a monday night. He said I will meet you in the bar afterwards as he was commentating with Tony Gayle. We rocked up after the game and the doorman said no chance. Pearce or Pint as we called him rocked up and said they are with us and in we went.
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I'm sure I watched an England game a few years back where Jonathan Pearce noted the opposition keeper bearing some resemblance to the ventriloquist Roger de Courcey. He referenced this a few times during the commentary, by the latter stages of the game simply calling said keeper De Courcey. I can't remember the opposition, I can picture the keeper (he did bear a striking resemblance to the owner of Nookie Bear) and I'm sure I didn't dream this happening.
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I can remember getting to Villa Park on Boxing Day 1995 and the game was postponed. It was the last season before under soil heating was installed and the pitch was terrible.
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Given the number of matches already called off and the requirement ti text overnight, the possibility of a postponement was always on the cards for those travelling, surely? You roll the dice and see what happens, no?
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Match of the Day commentator Jonathan Pearce, speaking on Football Focus
In my opinion, the league missed out on an opportunity. If they had called every game off from Wednesday night onwards, it would have given a 10-day isolation period before the Boxing Day matches.
I preferred the bit where he sympathised with the fans the gist of which was 'not just those from Burnley and Birmingham but fans who travel from all around the World to watch football in this wonderful Theatre".
I'd imagine that caused a few expletives to be uttered by those viewing in Small Heath. :D
Pearce seems to like us.
Know him. A top man. Supports Bristol city as his his dad played for them but stood on the holte many times with.him. always tries to get a quote into the commentary that only villa fans would get.
Interesting. How do you know him CCR?
Was best mates with one of my best mates. Top man. Some years ago we went to Charlton on a monday night. He said I will meet you in the bar afterwards as he was commentating with Tony Gayle. We rocked up after the game and the doorman said no chance. Pearce or Pint as we called him rocked up and said they are with us and in we went.
Fond memories of him doing all the games in our Uefa cup 1997 run to QF.
Yeah him and Guy Mowbray ("listen to the Holte end, look at the Holte end") are always pretty positive about us in comms compared to a few other commentators.
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Given the number of matches already called off and the requirement ti text overnight, the possibility of a postponement was always on the cards for those travelling, surely? You roll the dice and see what happens, no?
No.
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Given the number of matches already called off and the requirement ti text overnight, the possibility of a postponement was always on the cards for those travelling, surely? You roll the dice and see what happens, no?
Given the number of matches already called off and the requirement ti text overnight, the possibility of a postponement was always on the cards for those travelling, surely? You roll the dice and see what happens, no?
No.
No.
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Pravda did an archive highlights clip this week "On This Day", our win over Steaua Bucharest in the Uefa Cup December 1997. Jonathan Pearce on comms. Watched it the other day. Collymore did everything but score. Decent win but our league form was so patchy under Little at the time.
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Pravda did an archive highlights clip this week "On This Day", our win over Steaua Bucharest in the Uefa Cup December 1997. Jonathan Pearce on comms. Watched it the other day. Collymore did everything but score. Decent win but our league form was so patchy under Little at the time.
I loved that UEFA cup run. If only Hendrie had scored or laid off the chance to Milosevic in the home game against Athletico Madrid. Still love the run. That Collymore power drive against Madrid from distance is still one of my favourite Villa goals.
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Match of the Day commentator Jonathan Pearce, speaking on Football Focus
In my opinion, the league missed out on an opportunity. If they had called every game off from Wednesday night onwards, it would have given a 10-day isolation period before the Boxing Day matches.
I preferred the bit where he sympathised with the fans the gist of which was 'not just those from Burnley and Birmingham but fans who travel from all around the World to watch football in this wonderful Theatre".
I'd imagine that caused a few expletives to be uttered by those viewing in Small Heath. :D
Pearce seems to like us.
Know him. A top man. Supports Bristol city as his his dad played for them but stood on the holte many times with.him. always tries to get a quote into the commentary that only villa fans would get.
Interesting. How do you know him CCR?
Was best mates with one of my best mates. Top man. Some years ago we went to Charlton on a monday night. He said I will meet you in the bar afterwards as he was commentating with Tony Gayle. We rocked up after the game and the doorman said no chance. Pearce or Pint as we called him rocked up and said they are with us and in we went.
Fond memories of him doing all the games in our Uefa cup 1997 run to QF.
Yeah him and Guy Mowbray ("listen to the Holte end, look at the Holte end") are always pretty positive about us in comms compared to a few other commentators.
As oppose to that Rob Hawthorne who clearly hates us and must be either a Nose or Throstle
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Match of the Day commentator Jonathan Pearce, speaking on Football Focus
In my opinion, the league missed out on an opportunity. If they had called every game off from Wednesday night onwards, it would have given a 10-day isolation period before the Boxing Day matches.
I preferred the bit where he sympathised with the fans the gist of which was 'not just those from Burnley and Birmingham but fans who travel from all around the World to watch football in this wonderful Theatre".
I'd imagine that caused a few expletives to be uttered by those viewing in Small Heath. :D
Pearce seems to like us.
Know him. A top man. Supports Bristol city as his his dad played for them but stood on the holte many times with.him. always tries to get a quote into the commentary that only villa fans would get.
Interesting. How do you know him CCR?
Was best mates with one of my best mates. Top man. Some years ago we went to Charlton on a monday night. He said I will meet you in the bar afterwards as he was commentating with Tony Gayle. We rocked up after the game and the doorman said no chance. Pearce or Pint as we called him rocked up and said they are with us and in we went.
Fond memories of him doing all the games in our Uefa cup 1997 run to QF.
Yeah him and Guy Mowbray ("listen to the Holte end, look at the Holte end") are always pretty positive about us in comms compared to a few other commentators.
As oppose to that Rob Hawthorne who clearly hates us and must be either a Nose or Throstle
Strangely enough, I have it in the back of my mind that he’s Villa.
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I can remember getting to Villa Park on Boxing Day 1995 and the game was postponed. It was the last season before under soil heating was installed and the pitch was terrible.
Liverpool at home. I went. Then went home
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I can remember getting to Villa Park on Boxing Day 1995 and the game was postponed. It was the last season before under soil heating was installed and the pitch was terrible.
Liverpool at home. I went. Then went home
I remember Man City was cancelled 1993-94 too. I have programs for both the original game and the rescheduled match. Both had the same cover.
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I guess that the only way to ensure safety is to test everyone (including the players) before they enter the ground. It would be a pain but at least the matches could go ahead. Nobody carrying the virus, vaccinated or not, would be allowed to enter. There would be depleted teams but football would go ahead and maybe some of the younger players would get a chance.
There's a national shortage of lateral flow test kits
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I guess that the only way to ensure safety is to test everyone (including the players) before they enter the ground. It would be a pain but at least the matches could go ahead. Nobody carrying the virus, vaccinated or not, would be allowed to enter. There would be depleted teams but football would go ahead and maybe some of the younger players would get a chance.
There's a national shortage of lateral flow test kits
No shortage, just a short term demand spike which caused some logistical issues. All sorted now
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I can remember getting to Villa Park on Boxing Day 1995 and the game was postponed. It was the last season before under soil heating was installed and the pitch was terrible.
Liverpool at home. I went. Then went home
My first Christmas as a father I thought I'd start as I meant to go on and bail on the inlaws visit.
I started walking down to the match that afternoon and got as far as the Yew Tree before someone told me the game was off. I had a quick pint and walked home, my new wife cried and thought I'd been teasing her, quite rightly I got treated like a king for 'putting my family before the Villa" that day......
Until her big mouthed uncle arrived.
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Stop moaning all you bits of kids. I remember parking up at Old Trafford just as a game was called off once. I didn’t phone 0898 12 11 48 attempting to vent my spleen.
I remember that, we went up in my mates new Montego company car and had the tape player on rather than the radio, we had parked in Trafford and were on our second pint when a Utd fan asked us if we were pissed off having travelled.
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I guess that the only way to ensure safety is to test everyone (including the players) before they enter the ground. It would be a pain but at least the matches could go ahead. Nobody carrying the virus, vaccinated or not, would be allowed to enter. There would be depleted teams but football would go ahead and maybe some of the younger players would get a chance.
There's a national shortage of lateral flow test kits
No shortage, just a short term demand spike which caused some logistical issues. All sorted now
Ok fair enough but I think the suggestion that everyone takes a lateral flow test prior to entering the stadium is a non starter. 40,000 people waiting for the result would cause mayhem.
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Edge, the lateral flow test is the one you do at home where you get a result in between 15 -30 minutes. You may be thinking of the PCR which is the one where you have to wait for the result to come back from the Lab.
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I think unvaccinated players in the PL should be made to play in traditional Dutch wooden clogs until they get doubled vaxed and boostered.
That'd soon change their minds.
Though that would give a very unfair advantage to Burnley.
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I remember that, we went up in my mates new Montego company car and had the tape player on rather than the radio, we had parked in Trafford and were on our second pint when a Utd fan asked us if we were pissed off having travelled.
I hope your answer was 'not really, I haven't travelled as far as the Yanited fans'.
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Edge, the lateral flow test is the one you do at home where you get a result in between 15 -30 minutes. You may be thinking of the PCR which is the one where you have to wait for the result to come back from the Lab.
That's the one lol
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Edge, the lateral flow test is the one you do at home where you get a result in between 15 -30 minutes. You may be thinking of the PCR which is the one where you have to wait for the result to come back from the Lab.
That's the one lol
No worries, apologies, didn’t mean to sound pedantic or know all, it’s just that we’ve unfortunately had to become experts on these bloody tests recently. One adult son tested positive ( with both tests) and is now holed up in his flat feeling crappy on his 32nd birthday, another one coughing his guts up in his room in our house ( he had to move back in when his relationship broke up). He’s a teacher and god knows how he hasn’t had it yet , most of his classes and colleagues have. Despite having negative LFTs he was so ill yesterday we decided not to go to the match before it was cancelled anyway and he drove to the centre to get a PCR. We are now awaiting the result and bricking it. Our 3rd son miraculously didn’t get it when all of the rest of his small company of 6 did , so he’s been doing LFTs twice daily and voluntarily self isolating until recently. And we are now not sure if it’s safe for our fourth son and his wife to come up from London at Christmas.
Sod Covid!
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bloody hell, Fred - you needed to learn to keep it in your pants :D
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bloody hell, Fred - you needed to learn to keep it in your pants :D
That's not how you do Lateral Flow Tests is it?
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bloody hell, Fred - you needed to learn to keep it in your pants :D
That's not how you do Lateral Flow Tests is it?
That may be where we were going wrong ;D
Still, it was fun learning ;)
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I think unvaccinated players in the PL should be made to play in traditional Dutch wooden clogs until they get doubled vaxed and boostered.
That'd soon change their minds.
Though that would give a very unfair advantage to Burnley.
Ha ha nice one 🤣👍
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I can remember getting to Villa Park on Boxing Day 1995 and the game was postponed. It was the last season before under soil heating was installed and the pitch was terrible.
Liverpool at home. I went. Then went home
I remember Man City was cancelled 1993-94 too. I have programs for both the original game and the rescheduled match. Both had the same cover.
Funnily enough I was trying to find a game that was postponed around 94/95 today other day due to heavy snow. I had it in my mind it was against Southampton. That ring a bell with anybody?
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Edge, the lateral flow test is the one you do at home where you get a result in between 15 -30 minutes. You may be thinking of the PCR which is the one where you have to wait for the result to come back from the Lab.
That's the one lol
No worries, apologies, didn’t mean to sound pedantic or know all, it’s just that we’ve unfortunately had to become experts on these bloody tests recently. One adult son tested positive ( with both tests) and is now holed up in his flat feeling crappy on his 32nd birthday, another one coughing his guts up in his room in our house ( he had to move back in when his relationship broke up). He’s a teacher and god knows how he hasn’t had it yet , most of his classes and colleagues have. Despite having negative LFTs he was so ill yesterday we decided not to go to the match before it was cancelled anyway and he drove to the centre to get a PCR. We are now awaiting the result and bricking it. Our 3rd son miraculously didn’t get it when all of the rest of his small company of 6 did , so he’s been doing LFTs twice daily and voluntarily self isolating until recently. And we are now not sure if it’s safe for our fourth son and his wife to come up from London at Christmas.
Sod Covid!
Bloody hell Fred it's all happening in your family. Hope things get a little better for Christmas. My wife had Covid recently and we tried to avoid each other but that's no easy in our house. I tested daily and got a negative result every morning for ten days. I'm at a loss trying to work out just how it transmits. Stay safe.
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On the back of the gushing tweet about Rat Boys return, it's another poor piece of PR from the club
It's not the club's fault. Let's face it, there's only one person to blame here with his excessive fate tempting. ;)
Still on? 8)
Yessssssssssssssssssssss ;D
Less than 24 hours to go and the match is still on 8)
Less than five hours to go and the match still hasn't been called off!
;D ;D ;D
haha
I was just really looking forward to it :(
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Edge, the lateral flow test is the one you do at home where you get a result in between 15 -30 minutes. You may be thinking of the PCR which is the one where you have to wait for the result to come back from the Lab.
That's the one lol
No worries, apologies, didn’t mean to sound pedantic or know all, it’s just that we’ve unfortunately had to become experts on these bloody tests recently. One adult son tested positive ( with both tests) and is now holed up in his flat feeling crappy on his 32nd birthday, another one coughing his guts up in his room in our house ( he had to move back in when his relationship broke up). He’s a teacher and god knows how he hasn’t had it yet , most of his classes and colleagues have. Despite having negative LFTs he was so ill yesterday we decided not to go to the match before it was cancelled anyway and he drove to the centre to get a PCR. We are now awaiting the result and bricking it. Our 3rd son miraculously didn’t get it when all of the rest of his small company of 6 did , so he’s been doing LFTs twice daily and voluntarily self isolating until recently. And we are now not sure if it’s safe for our fourth son and his wife to come up from London at Christmas.
Sod Covid!
Bloody hell Fred it's all happening in your family. Hope things get a little better for Christmas. My wife had Covid recently and we tried to avoid each other but that's no easy in our house. I tested daily and got a negative result every morning for ten days. I'm at a loss trying to work out just how it transmits. Stay safe.
Cheers , you too. Hope your wife is feeling fully better now.
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I can remember getting to Villa Park on Boxing Day 1995 and the game was postponed. It was the last season before under soil heating was installed and the pitch was terrible.
Liverpool at home. I went. Then went home
I got as far as the H&V bloke that day driving in from Suffolk
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Edge, the lateral flow test is the one you do at home where you get a result in between 15 -30 minutes. You may be thinking of the PCR which is the one where you have to wait for the result to come back from the Lab.
That's the one lol
No worries, apologies, didn’t mean to sound pedantic or know all, it’s just that we’ve unfortunately had to become experts on these bloody tests recently. One adult son tested positive ( with both tests) and is now holed up in his flat feeling crappy on his 32nd birthday, another one coughing his guts up in his room in our house ( he had to move back in when his relationship broke up). He’s a teacher and god knows how he hasn’t had it yet , most of his classes and colleagues have. Despite having negative LFTs he was so ill yesterday we decided not to go to the match before it was cancelled anyway and he drove to the centre to get a PCR. We are now awaiting the result and bricking it. Our 3rd son miraculously didn’t get it when all of the rest of his small company of 6 did , so he’s been doing LFTs twice daily and voluntarily self isolating until recently. And we are now not sure if it’s safe for our fourth son and his wife to come up from London at Christmas.
Sod Covid!
Bloody hell Fred it's all happening in your family. Hope things get a little better for Christmas. My wife had Covid recently and we tried to avoid each other but that's no easy in our house. I tested daily and got a negative result every morning for ten days. I'm at a loss trying to work out just how it transmits. Stay safe.
Cheers , you too. Hope your wife is feeling fully better now.
Yeah she's fine now mate.
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I can remember getting to Villa Park on Boxing Day 1995 and the game was postponed. It was the last season before under soil heating was installed and the pitch was terrible.
Liverpool at home. I went. Then went home
I remember Man City was cancelled 1993-94 too. I have programs for both the original game and the rescheduled match. Both had the same cover.
Funnily enough I was trying to find a game that was postponed around 94/95 today other day due to heavy snow. I had it in my mind it was against Southampton. That ring a bell with anybody?
I too suffered that Boxing Day cancellation v Man City. I was taking my 4-5 year old nephew and my sister dropped us off. Got to the ground to discover the game was off so went to the club shop to console him - and gain time as there was no transport that day. We then went to the car park and saw the players driving off. I had forgotten this but Yorke was driving out and he wound his windows down to sign autographs. My nephew was starstruck but silent and I said “go on, say hello” to which Yorke blurted a sheepish hello.
Re yesterday I only discovered the game was off just as I got to New street. A pain, but I know a few people who had to bail out yesterday because of positive tests or not wanting to potentially ruin Christmas and felt the game wasn’t certain to go ahead. However I really think there should be a cut off point for cancellations to reduce fans being inconvenienced, say 5 hours before kick off, more where the away fans would have a longer journey.
I had a stroll around Digbeth and the German market then jumped on a train back to London. Brum was pretty busy, but less than I expected. Mask wearing in the station was lower than I would have thought by the way.
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Seem to recall a midweek game away to Brighton when we got to that London at about 11.30,left the pub at something past 3.00 and only found out the game was off when we stopped at a cafe just outside Brighton at about 5pm.We carried on to the seaside for a drink and were pleased to find quite a few Villa had done the same.Think the game had been called off aound lunchtime.
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Edge, the lateral flow test is the one you do at home where you get a result in between 15 -30 minutes. You may be thinking of the PCR which is the one where you have to wait for the result to come back from the Lab.
That's the one lol
No worries, apologies, didn’t mean to sound pedantic or know all, it’s just that we’ve unfortunately had to become experts on these bloody tests recently. One adult son tested positive ( with both tests) and is now holed up in his flat feeling crappy on his 32nd birthday, another one coughing his guts up in his room in our house ( he had to move back in when his relationship broke up). He’s a teacher and god knows how he hasn’t had it yet , most of his classes and colleagues have. Despite having negative LFTs he was so ill yesterday we decided not to go to the match before it was cancelled anyway and he drove to the centre to get a PCR. We are now awaiting the result and bricking it. Our 3rd son miraculously didn’t get it when all of the rest of his small company of 6 did , so he’s been doing LFTs twice daily and voluntarily self isolating until recently. And we are now not sure if it’s safe for our fourth son and his wife to come up from London at Christmas.
Sod Covid!
Bloody hell Fred it's all happening in your family. Hope things get a little better for Christmas. My wife had Covid recently and we tried to avoid each other but that's no easy in our house. I tested daily and got a negative result every morning for ten days. I'm at a loss trying to work out just how it transmits. Stay safe.
Me my Dad and brother all got it in September. Neither my wife or kids, my mum or my brothers flatmate did though. A colleague has had it, then his daughter and much later his son. His wife has never had it at all. Cast iron immune systems!
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As has been mentioned many times it is not homogeneous
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Great result yesterday. Some lovely movement. Cracking goals in each half by SJM who is revelling in his role under Gerrard and what a good player JJ is becoming. Defence is once again really solid. Oh and fuck off Sean Dyche. You were soundly beaten. Gerrard is proving us all wrong. 5 wins out of 7 is a brilliant return.
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Who scored the other three?
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Who scored the other three?
Which half are you referring to?
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I can remember getting to Villa Park on Boxing Day 1995 and the game was postponed. It was the last season before under soil heating was installed and the pitch was terrible.
Liverpool at home. I went. Then went home
I remember Man City was cancelled 1993-94 too. I have programs for both the original game and the rescheduled match. Both had the same cover.
Funnily enough I was trying to find a game that was postponed around 94/95 today other day due to heavy snow. I had it in my mind it was against Southampton. That ring a bell with anybody?
QPR away was cancelled in 1991-ish due to snow. We'd got as.far as Marlow....
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I can remember getting to Villa Park on Boxing Day 1995 and the game was postponed. It was the last season before under soil heating was installed and the pitch was terrible.
Liverpool at home. I went. Then went home
I remember Man City was cancelled 1993-94 too. I have programs for both the original game and the rescheduled match. Both had the same cover.
Funnily enough I was trying to find a game that was postponed around 94/95 today other day due to heavy snow. I had it in my mind it was against Southampton. That ring a bell with anybody?
QPR away was cancelled in 1991-ish due to snow. We'd got as.far as Marlow....
We got as far as Newport Pagnall and someone drove past holding up a sheet of A4 with 'Game Off' scrawled on it.
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Who scored the other three?
Which half are you referring to?
The first half - I know about Archer's stunner, Mings's header and that last minute one off the corner by Emi 1.
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I can remember getting to Villa Park on Boxing Day 1995 and the game was postponed. It was the last season before under soil heating was installed and the pitch was terrible.
Liverpool at home. I went. Then went home
I remember Man City was cancelled 1993-94 too. I have programs for both the original game and the rescheduled match. Both had the same cover.
Funnily enough I was trying to find a game that was postponed around 94/95 today other day due to heavy snow. I had it in my mind it was against Southampton. That ring a bell with anybody?
QPR away was cancelled in 1991-ish due to snow. We'd got as.far as Marlow....
I think we were on our way to that and had to come back.
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Who scored the other three?
3 Ben Mee own goals.
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I can remember getting to Villa Park on Boxing Day 1995 and the game was postponed. It was the last season before under soil heating was installed and the pitch was terrible.
Liverpool at home. I went. Then went home
I remember Man City was cancelled 1993-94 too. I have programs for both the original game and the rescheduled match. Both had the same cover.
Funnily enough I was trying to find a game that was postponed around 94/95 today other day due to heavy snow. I had it in my mind it was against Southampton. That ring a bell with anybody?
QPR away was cancelled in 1991-ish due to snow. We'd got as.far as Marlow....
We got as far as Newport Pagnall and someone drove past holding up a sheet of A4 with 'Game Off' scrawled on it.
ffs Pagnell
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Who scored the other three?
3 Ben Mee own goals.
Has a ring to it - the third day of Christmas?
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I can remember getting to Villa Park on Boxing Day 1995 and the game was postponed. It was the last season before under soil heating was installed and the pitch was terrible.
Liverpool at home. I went. Then went home
I remember Man City was cancelled 1993-94 too. I have programs for both the original game and the rescheduled match. Both had the same cover.
Funnily enough I was trying to find a game that was postponed around 94/95 today other day due to heavy snow. I had it in my mind it was against Southampton. That ring a bell with anybody?
QPR away was cancelled in 1991-ish due to snow. We'd got as.far as Marlow....
We got as far as Newport Pagnall and someone drove past holding up a sheet of A4 with 'Game Off' scrawled on it.
ffs Pagnell
I lost my bag in Newport Pagnell