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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on October 05, 2019, 04:44:52 PM
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Aston Villa, canary killer. Take that, Delia.
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Well that was fun.
Full marks to everyone.
Only disappoinment was no clean sheet, sloppy mistake that can happen at 0-5.
Credit to DS who I've been a bit critical of in last few weeks. He's learning as pretty much everything was spot on today.
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That has got to put the wind in our sails now. Massive confidence boost.
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Was a nervey finish but thank fuck we held on.
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Just what we needed, a great result
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Thank fcuk for that! Nice result to go into the international break with.
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What crisis?
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Well fought, ground out result. Lucky to get the win in the end.
Marvellous - My MoM, closely followed by Grealish and Wes
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All that front foot football and I’ve got Mings as my MOTM.
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Bloody hell, we only went and actually gave someone a thumping one of these days.
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Well fought, ground out result. Lucky to get the win in the end.
Marvellous - My MoM, closely followed by Grealish and Wes
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Take this forward, we just need another 10 games like this and we are home and dry, well done Villa, some great goals.
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Can’t wait to stuff Liverpool in a few weeks.
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Perfect to go into the break with that win.
The system Smith has gone for with Jack in a free role off the left works really nicely when Targett is fit - who makes us unrecognisable down that side in comparison to Taylor.
Nakamba is some player - growing into the Premier League and looking more Kante-like with every game. And despite the penalty miss, so happy for Wes to get his goals - 4 so far in the league as a new, young player to England isn't bad going.
Absolutely buzzing.
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First win in October since??
MOTM Leffe
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Great stuff
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Fantastic result, just what we needed. Nakamba MOTM for me although thought everyone had a good game. And Mings shows he's mortal after all! Happy days
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Toronto, you're not banned from starting Match thread (for now).
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Wonderful brilliant stuff
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No chance of sober October after that great team performance.
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First win in October since??
Last year when we beat Swansea
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We got there, we won and we come back happy as I mentioned it before. Really plezsed and proud.
UTV.
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All that front foot football and I’ve got Mings as my MOTM.
Mings would have been my choice too until he messed up for their goal.
Marvellous gets it. Didn't put a foot wrong.
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Shame about Wes not getting his hat trick and the stupid goal at the end but everything in between was just superb.
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Marvellous stuff. Bring on Brighton
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4 points off the Champions League spots
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Fabulous game, enjoyed that. It’s been coming that, we do play some lovely football nowadays. Pity about the sloppy goal, could of done with that clean sheet for fantasy football.
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Did not see that coming but that result is massive. Surely the confidence we can take from that is priceless.
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That proves we have the capability to compete and stay in the Premier League.
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Smith out. Wesley rubbish. Another loss. We are doomed.
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Trying to find the word to describe Nakamba..............
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Some days we are statues and other days we are pigeons. Today we were pigeons.
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Trying to find the word to describe Nakamba..............
Magnificent?
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A very welcome three points, a very welcome boost to the goal difference and a very welcome morale boost.
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I decided to take myself off to the swimming pool this afternoon instead of sitting here and worrying. I think I'll be doing that again. Well done Villa, looking forward to the pub tonight.
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Marvellous.
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I decided to take myself off to the swimming pool this afternoon instead of sitting here and worrying. I think I'll be doing that again. Well done Villa, looking forward to the pub tonight.
You only swim when we're winning
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Magic
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By my maths that makes us 5 goals better than Man City.
Brilliant Villa onwards and upwards.
UP THE VILLA
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Trying to find the word to describe Nakamba..............
Mediocre? 🤣
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Nakamba is a little gem of a player.
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Some days we are statues and other days we are pigeons. Today we were pigeons.
Shiting on the city as we goooo?
Sorry, I hate that song.
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Can’t talk.
Filling up.
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Lovely stuff. Some very good football played and some cracking goals. Annoying to give away such a silly goal at the end, but probably not a bad thing for Deano to have something to shout at them about!!
How good is Nakamba by the way? Magnificent? Stupendous? Exceptional?
Today made all the sweeter by taking advantage of our odds being far too big given Norwich's injury problems. Still kicking myself for fucking up the Brighton cup game!!
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Looks like someone else enjoyed it...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7541239/Prince-William-Kate-celebrate-wildly-Dukes-team-Aston-Villa-hammer-Norwich-Premier-League.html
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Brilliant
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Was a nervey finish but thank fuck we held on.
😂😂😂
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We needed a turning point to propel our season, hopefully this was it. Although, conceding that sloppy, unnecessary goal at the death via another mistake was slightly annoying.
Most of the team raised their game and played well but Nakamba was outstanding, easily MOTM.
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A win against Brighton now at Villa Park sets up nicely for what will be a very tough run of games.
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I've said to colleagues this week that I wasn't worried about the way the season was going because we were a new group of players stepping up to a much higher level. We were already scoring goals and when we pulled it all together we'd win matches comfortably or at least not let leads slip. Today was the first step in that prophecy coming to fruition.
UTV
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Five nil, and you fucked it up!
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I enjoyed that, which makes a refreshing change.
They all played well. Nakamba was my MOTM. Looks totally at home at this level. Calm, strong, wins it, protects it, and finds a teammate with either foot. He's going to be vital for us, I think.
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I enjoyed that, which makes a refreshing change.
They all played well. Nakamba was my MOTM. Looks totally at home at this level. Calm, strong, wins it, protects it, and finds a teammate with either foot. He's going to be vital for us, I think.
never gave the ball away once unusual for a Villa player!
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It's going to be a great trip back!
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I enjoyed that, which makes a refreshing change.
They all played well. Nakamba was my MOTM. Looks totally at home at this level. Calm, strong, wins it, protects it, and finds a teammate with either foot. He's going to be vital for us, I think.
never gave the ball away once unusual for a Villa player!
I've had a quick butcher's at Grealish's goal. He steps in and makes the interception/pass to set it in motion. Such a small thing, but it's the way he reacts to something that hasn't happened yet, but he can see that it will. You can not teach that. I'm going to enjoy watching him and us getting better.
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Hats off to Smith with the man management of Wesley. Told him he’d not been up to scratch last game, sat him down and watched videos of him at his old club. Seems to have done the trick today.
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Remember how much better they were than us last season? I know they had injuries but still, that was an absolute funeraling.
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Enjoyed every second of that.
Nakamba was incredible.
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I enjoyed that, which makes a refreshing change.
They all played well. Nakamba was my MOTM. Looks totally at home at this level. Calm, strong, wins it, protects it, and finds a teammate with either foot. He's going to be vital for us, I think.
never gave the ball away once unusual for a Villa player!
He genuinely didn't .100% pass completion!
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Very sloppy goal at the end aside, a very good performance and win. We looked really dangerous going forward and I thought Jack had his best game of the season so far. It looked today that it is really starting to come together and a decent spine of a side is starting to emerge.
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Almost perfect game for us. Those who needed goals got them, the whole club gets a boost, and a lot of pressure is taken off. And three away points too.
I don't begrudge Norwich a goal - they were pretty good coming forward. Disappointed it had to come from our mistake though.
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I'm pissed....I am going to get more pissed. I love Aston Villa. .You just cant beat a fantastic result.
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Looked very good going forward but thought we defended too narrow, particularly on the right. The midfield players have to get across quicker to stop the overload on the fullbacks. Nakamba was very effective in the midfield, does the simple things and, most importantly keeps the ball moving all of the time.
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Happy travels back to traveling masses. Norwich isn’t the easiest place to get to and back. It will much sweeter tonight.
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Just left a message on Delia's answerphone asking how to cook roast Canary.
Somehow I don't think she'll be calling me back.
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Highlights (https://www.skysports.com/football/norwich-vs-a-villa/report/408057)
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Looks like someone else enjoyed it...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7541239/Prince-William-Kate-celebrate-wildly-Dukes-team-Aston-Villa-hammer-Norwich-Premier-League.html
Was wondering why he chose this game, then remembered they own a council house in Norfolk or something.....
Kate Middleton "supports" Chelsea I think so hopefully we have a convert after today's display!
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Hello Premier league Aston Villa have arrived.
Back in the big time baby.
Downside is the international period and the 14 day before Brighton home
Absolute superb today . Lovely goals and was a great game with Norwich contribution in wanting to get goals and being so open , as well as defenders muddling up and giving away ball , saw a well deserved victory.
Credit Wesley for 2 goals (though Davis could have scored them and his penalty was weak af as was his attempt from penalty rebound and the free header straight at gk) as expected him to be up it today though 2nd half he wasn't exactly part of the attacks but was occupying the defence throughout .
As well as the mentions of Marvelous and Mings
I thought Targett was excellent and real thrust and pressed well to allow that goal for Hourihane.
Guilbert offered a lot going forward and el Ghazi could have done whatever he wanted but as defensive combo on that side villa were again very suspect and Norwich could have scored first half from poor defensive work from these two on the right side.
Attacking wise the flair was there and I think many of us expected chances and goals for villa due to how both we and Norwich play.
5-1 was actually a fair result and loved how the boys all celebrated together that beautiful Douglas Luiz goal
Especially Wesley who had a dance with him !!
A real big shout to Hourihane who scored his first ever premier league goal.
This guy has worked hard to get to the premier league and worked hard to get his place in the team
A real acknowledgement to a great pro.
Grealish too for his first goal this season in the prem!
And Konsa for his first premier league minutes I believe.
Allez Allez Allez
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Bloody hell, we only went and actually gave someone a thumping one of these days.
Great post.
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That Luiz goal is sublime.
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I like Taylor and Elmo, but have to say I'm really happy with the full backs. Nakamba brings exactly what we required in front of defence. Wesley coming on and we look much more balanced playing one of Trezeguet/El Ghazi/Jota and an extra midfielder. Chuffed.
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First win in October since??
Last year when we beat Swansea
Prem :)
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Norwich fans are able to count the number of goals in the game on the fingers of 1 hand.
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Great stuff lads. Happy thoughts in the international break now.
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Yes that foolish and slippy goal in the dying embers keeps up our record of conceding so many late goals
Yet again we concede in the final quarter mins of a match .
And yet again concede in the 80+mins
We had scored five goals beforehand, like. Just a reminder.
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any team who has Marvellous , SJM , JG and Tyrone Mings will not be going down.
Excellent performance and not that suprised.
Well done Villa.
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It's going to be a great trip back!
Enjoy! Reminds me of a trip back from Norwich with the Sutton Lions one cold Tuesday night after a 2-0 cup win. We sang 'The Bells Are Ringing' non-stop all the way back to Brum.
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I thought we might sneak a win by the odd goal but that was rather better than I could have hoped for.
I was going to watch by stream but was it was already 1-0 and didn't want to jinx it so went head-in-the-sand instead.
Sounds like we had our shooting boots today and could have had 7 or 8. Well done to Dean and the lads for finally giving someone that thumping. Poor penalty and needless error (again) aside, the kind of thing that has cost us in the past, it sounds like a close to perfect performance.
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That Luiz goal is sublime.
Thought it was pretty average.. by his standards.
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any team who has Marvellous , SJM , JG and Tyrone Mings will not be going down.
Excellent performance and not that suprised.
Well done Villa.
Until we next lose, then the world caves in.
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For me, one disappointment was Taylor still on the bench ahead of Kortney Hause. We saw last week how poor Taylor was when he came on for Targett. Pathetic defending for the Rodriguez header.
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Good to see us in 14th a point behind manyew and three behind Spuds and Chelsea.
In terms of the season so far, it's interesting to note that the Friend and Moss decisions cost us possibly 2 extra points which, if gained, would have seen us in 9th, above Palace on points and above Arsenal on goal difference, albeit with an extra game played.
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For me, one disappointment was Taylor still on the bench ahead of Kortney Hause. We saw last week how poor Taylor was when he came on for Targett. Pathetic defending for the Rodriguez header.
Haha!
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Observation - we've played 6 of the top 10 and 2 of the bottom 9 (taking us out).
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Observation - we've played 6 of the top 10 and 2 of the bottom 9 (taking us out).
With Man City and Liverpool to come after Brighton.
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What an absolutely superb match. El Ghazi probably had his best game, and Big Wes went some way to silencing his critics (including me!) That was the run up of somebody who was nailed on to miss a penalty though. Marvelous is such a great player, the very definition of the heartbeat of a side. Winning it back simply but then always looking to set the team off on an attack by playing a probing ball. Superb. Jack was great today, his most commanding game and capped with a really good goal of his own.
Only downside was the needless fuck up for the goal.
Oh and a mention for Targett, who looks really very good going forward, and was constantly acting as another outlet on the left. Smith got everything spot on today.
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Fantastic result considering Keinan should have started instead of Wes, Grealish shouldn't be captain, Connor shouldn't be in the starting eleven, and the manager is tactically inept in this league ;).
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Smith got everything spot on today.
No more so than playing El Ghazi more inside and closer to Wesley. Both players benefited from the decision.
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I love the fact I thought Nakamba was MOM, yet other people think El-Ghazi, Wes, Mings, Grealish. Some big performances out there.
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Today was a complete team performance. We’ve threatened bits and pieces of what we saw today at various times this season but never all together. Some of our movement for the goals was really excellent. Players are starting to understand their roles and used to playing with each other at this level. It was really fun to watch. Need to follow this up now vs Brighton but it sure feels great going into the international period on the back of a handing out a kicking
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Good to see us in 14th a point behind manyew and three behind Spuds and Chelsea.
In terms of the season so far, it's interesting to note that the Friend and Moss decisions cost us possibly 2 extra points which, if gained, would have seen us in 9th, above Palace on points and above Arsenal on goal difference, albeit with an extra game played.
I've got £20 with a manyewer that we'll finish within 3 places of them. Admittedly that was made mostly on me reckoning they'd be shite under Solskjær. Early days still, but grounds for much optimism.
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Good to see us in 14th a point behind manyew and three behind Spuds and Chelsea.
In terms of the season so far, it's interesting to note that the Friend and Moss decisions cost us possibly 2 extra points which, if gained, would have seen us in 9th, above Palace on points and above Arsenal on goal difference, albeit with an extra game played.
I've got £20 with a manyewer that we'll finish within 3 places of them. Admittedly that was made mostly on me reckoning they'd be shite under Solskjær. Early days still, but grounds for much optimism.
I think OSG is the only Man U player I’ve ever liked so I feel a bit guilty about enjoying watching him fuck up which just makes that massive tool Ferguson look good.
Still, bollocks to that, we beat Norwich 5 - 1 which is sweet after their chants of ‘Premier League you’re having a laugh’ after they narrowly beat our second team at the end of last season.
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For me, one disappointment was Taylor still on the bench ahead of Kortney Hause. We saw last week how poor Taylor was when he came on for Targett. Pathetic defending for the Rodriguez header.
Haha!
Fuck me, where's that Batman slap meme?
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I have just heard a snippet of an interview with Dean Smith on 5Live.
"I am pleased with the result but I still think we let the opposition see the whites of our goalkeepers eyes too much".
He is obviously setting high standards.
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Now THAT feels much better
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Now THAT feels much better
Are you talking about
A. Todays result
B. A dump you have just taken
C. A w*nk you have just had
;)
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For Hourihane's goal, Targett, an Aston Villa left back, hunts the ball down on the edge of the 'D'. Our first, fantastic first time control and lay-off of a dropping ball by an Aston Villa right back.
Great days to be alive.
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I have just heard a snippet of an interview with Dean Smith on 5Live.
"I am pleased with the result but I still think we let the opposition see the whites of our goalkeepers eyes too much".
He is obviously setting high standards.
So he should. There were far too many bodies (mainly Mings) and last ditch tackles/blocks. Saying that, our defence gave Heaton little to do today.
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I enjoyed that, which makes a refreshing change.
They all played well. Nakamba was my MOTM. Looks totally at home at this level. Calm, strong, wins it, protects it, and finds a teammate with either foot. He's going to be vital for us, I think.
It's like having Stan Petrov back
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
Bloody brillant.
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I've got £20 with a manyewer that we'll finish within 3 places of them. Admittedly that was made mostly on me reckoning they'd be shite under Solskjær. Early days still, but grounds for much optimism.
You lose the bet if we finish 4 places above them ?
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For Hourihane's goal, Targett, an Aston Villa left back, hunts the ball down on the edge of the 'D'. Our first, fantastic first time control and lay-off of a dropping ball by an Aston Villa right back.
Great days to be alive.
And this is why plenty of people were frustrated seeing Taylor and Elmo in the team against Tottenham. Neither of them has been particularly poor this season but they're just out-of-date. Proper modern fullbacks who are as good going forward as they are defending and who have the technical skills to play in the centre of midfield are an absolute must because they're the players who will so often find themselves with the time and space to make things happen.
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Was a nervey finish but thank fuck we held on.
Just about managed not to spill wine over my keyboard.
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Hello Premier league Aston Villa have arrived.
Back in the big time baby.
Downside is the international period and the 14 day before Brighton home
Absolute superb today . Lovely goals and was a great game with Norwich contribution in wanting to get goals and being so open , as well as defenders muddling up and giving away ball , saw a well deserved victory.
Credit Wesley for 2 goals (though Davis could have scored them and his penalty was weak af as was his attempt from penalty rebound and the free header straight at gk) as expected him to be up it today though 2nd half he wasn't exactly part of the attacks but was occupying the defence throughout .
As well as the mentions of Marvelous and Mings
I thought Targett was excellent and real thrust and pressed well to allow that goal for Hourihane.
Guilbert offered a lot going forward and el Ghazi could have done whatever he wanted but as defensive combo on that side villa were again very suspect and Norwich could have scored first half from poor defensive work from these two on the right side.
Attacking wise the flair was there and I think many of us expected chances and goals for villa due to how both we and Norwich play.
5-1 was actually a fair result and loved how the boys all celebrated together that beautiful Douglas Luiz goal
Especially Wesley who had a dance with him !!
A real big shout to Hourihane who scored his first ever premier league goal.
This guy has worked hard to get to the premier league and worked hard to get his place in the team
A real acknowledgement to a great pro.
Grealish too for his first goal this season in the prem!
And Konsa for his first premier league minutes I believe.
Allez Allez Allez
Have not read comments since but think you are being unfair on Wesley. His first goal was superb, the second was a tap in but he was in the right place. I love Davis, but his strengths are holding the ball up, he is not a natural scorer. 4 goals n 8 games is not a bad tally for a young lad in a new country, so maybe give him a break
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Now THAT feels much better
Are you talking about
A. Todays result
B. A dump you have just taken
C. A w*nk you have just had
;)
Or all three within 90 mins. Just imagine that
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After we beat utd and the red scousers we will have arrived back.
Not sure where we went, but we were there for the journey. faith and trust.
Glory,Glory Aston Vila and the Villa go marching on
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Finally got back home, and my considered opinion of the match is....Fuckin Ace Yeahhhhh.......😆😆
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For Hourihane's goal, Targett, an Aston Villa left back, hunts the ball down on the edge of the 'D'. Our first, fantastic first time control and lay-off of a dropping ball by an Aston Villa right back.
Great days to be alive.
And this is why plenty of people were frustrated seeing Taylor and Elmo in the team against Tottenham. Neither of them has been particularly poor this season but they're just out-of-date. Proper modern fullbacks who are as good going forward as they are defending and who have the technical skills to play in the centre of midfield are an absolute must because they're the players who will so often find themselves with the time and space to make things happen.
It doesn’t look tremendous in hindsight but I imagine Dean felt that was a lot of new players to start all at once and that perhaps some of the ones that were here last season would have a better understanding of how he wanted to play and each other. Don’t think many predicted Tottenham being this bad before the season either.
Completely agree with the general point though. Said last week what a difference it makes having two fullbacks providing an attacking outlet. Such a key part of the way that I think Smith wants us to play.
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It's days like this that even a rail replacement bus to Diss can't spoil.
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It's days like this that even a rail replacement bus to Diss can't spoil.
It should actually be called a train replacement service.
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Brilliant result on a great day for Villa! Very pleased for Wes and his 2 goals. Would love to have seen him score the pen but at least he forced the keeper into 2 saves. Pleased also for Conor and his 1st prem goal. He's now scored in each of the top 4 divisions. He's worked his way up to the top level and will have worked hard to have done so. Nakamba is outstanding! Shame about the late goal conceded, but what a great result witnessed by the future kings! UTV!
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Brilliant result on a great day for Villa! Very pleased for Wes and his 2 goals. Would love to have seen him score the pen but at least he forced the keeper into 2 saves. Pleased also for Conor and his 1st prem goal. He's now scored in each of the top 4 divisions. He's worked his way up to the top level and will have worked hard to have done so. Nakamba is outstanding! Shame about the late goal conceded, but what a great result witnessed by the future kings! UTV!
Absolutely superb comments
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It's days like this that even a rail replacement bus to Diss can't spoil.
It should actually be called a train replacement service.
Just go with whatever the giant screen says.
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It's days like this that even a rail replacement bus to Diss can't spoil.
It should actually be called a train replacement service.
Just go with whatever the giant screen says.
The giant screen seemed to have been tampered with. Probably by a junior employee.
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Second on MOTD, can today get any better?
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For Hourihane's goal, Targett, an Aston Villa left back, hunts the ball down on the edge of the 'D'. Our first, fantastic first time control and lay-off of a dropping ball by an Aston Villa right back.
Great days to be alive.
And this is why plenty of people were frustrated seeing Taylor and Elmo in the team against Tottenham. Neither of them has been particularly poor this season but they're just out-of-date. Proper modern fullbacks who are as good going forward as they are defending and who have the technical skills to play in the centre of midfield are an absolute must because they're the players who will so often find themselves with the time and space to make things happen.
It doesn’t look tremendous in hindsight but I imagine Dean felt that was a lot of new players to start all at once and that perhaps some of the ones that were here last season would have a better understanding of how he wanted to play and each other. Don’t think many predicted Tottenham being this bad before the season either.
Completely agree with the general point though. Said last week what a difference it makes having two fullbacks providing an attacking outlet. Such a key part of the way that I think Smith wants us to play.
I'm not saying he was wrong to select them, just that seeing them was pretty frustrating for some of us. Guilbert came in pretty quickly afterwards and is, in my opinion, one of our best players for the season so far. Now we're seeing Targett have a similar impact.
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Norwich is a lovely place to be tonight 8)
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Alan Shearer on MOTD complimenting Dean Smith's 'setting traps' tactics.
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not even a reference to Douglas Luiz goal. Had that been Messi or Ronaldo we would have seen it shown a dozen times
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For Hourihane's goal, Targett, an Aston Villa left back, hunts the ball down on the edge of the 'D'. Our first, fantastic first time control and lay-off of a dropping ball by an Aston Villa right back.
Great days to be alive.
And this is why plenty of people were frustrated seeing Taylor and Elmo in the team against Tottenham. Neither of them has been particularly poor this season but they're just out-of-date. Proper modern fullbacks who are as good going forward as they are defending and who have the technical skills to play in the centre of midfield are an absolute must because they're the players who will so often find themselves with the time and space to make things happen.
My brother gets unbelievably wound up by that thing Elmo does wherein he never hits a cross first time, he always stops the pass, rolls his foot over the top of the ball, then hits it.
I have noticed Luiz doing similar, but it normally immediately precedes the ball nestling in the top right corner, not looping beyond the back post.
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any team who has Marvellous , SJM , JG and Tyrone Mings will not be going down.
Excellent performance and not that suprised.
Well done Villa.
Until we next lose, then the world caves in.
I think very few react to single results like that.
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For Hourihane's goal, Targett, an Aston Villa left back, hunts the ball down on the edge of the 'D'. Our first, fantastic first time control and lay-off of a dropping ball by an Aston Villa right back.
Great days to be alive.
And this is why plenty of people were frustrated seeing Taylor and Elmo in the team against Tottenham. Neither of them has been particularly poor this season but they're just out-of-date. Proper modern fullbacks who are as good going forward as they are defending and who have the technical skills to play in the centre of midfield are an absolute must because they're the players who will so often find themselves with the time and space to make things happen.
My brother gets unbelievably wound up by that thing Elmo does wherein he never hits a cross first time, he always stops the pass, rolls his foot over the top of the ball, then hits it.
I have noticed Luiz doing similar, but it normally immediately precedes the ball nestling in the top right corner, not looping beyond the back post.
Taylor does similar, he stops the ball, then moves it out of his feet and then crosses towards defenders who have, generally, then had time to get into position and turn away from goal.
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Targett looks really good to me. Adds a completely new outlet down the left flank.
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No matter who you play, not matter what their injuries, you have to be ruthless and win games like this. And we did. Fantastic Villa. Well done. So nice not be to be in the bottom three going into the international break. There are still things to learn from. The casual penalty, the casual pass back. It keeps us honest.
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Played some fantastic attacking football, a joy to watch. Midfield is superb.
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Agree targett looks a key player. I think without him the formation breaks down, as it did against Burnley when he got injured.
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Norwich is a great away day, it’s just a shame it’s so awkward to get to. Their fans are generally a decent, friendly bunch too.
The whole team were on it from minute one to minute ninety today. MOTM for me was Marvelous, who was just superb. The final score actually flattered Norwich.
Special shout out to the bellend behind me who called for Wesley to be taken off as he’s shit, in the 8th minute! Otherwise, the support was brilliant.
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If we wanted it could have been double figures, great performances from Wes, football in a library, Sjm and super jack - was never in doubt.
It’s a shit of a journey as well with the a14 closed by Cambridge.
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Norwich is a great away day, it’s just a shame it’s so awkward to get to. Their fans are generally a decent, friendly bunch too.
The whole team were on it from minute one to minute ninety today. MOTM for me was Marvelous, who was just superb. The final score actually flattered Norwich.
Special shout out to the bellend behind me who called for Wesley to be taken off as he’s shit, in the 8th minute! Otherwise, the support was brilliant.
Took us 4.5 hours to get there on the coach today. Thank god we won!
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Norwich is a great away day, it’s just a shame it’s so awkward to get to. Their fans are generally a decent, friendly bunch too.
The whole team were on it from minute one to minute ninety today. MOTM for me was Marvelous, who was just superb. The final score actually flattered Norwich.
Special shout out to the bellend behind me who called for Wesley to be taken off as he’s shit, in the 8th minute! Otherwise, the support was brilliant.
In defence of that person, eight minutes in Norwich seems like eighty minutes.
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We really needed that, felt so good. Norwich have injuries but we slaughtered them. Everyone had a good game really but MOTM to Marvellous. He won’t get the pundits going but I love players like him and they are crucial if you want to stay up. Broke up play and allowed SJM and Grealish to play.
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Trying to find the word to describe Nakamba..............
Magnificent?
I think his parents knew - Marvellous!
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Just fell through the front door
What a day, what a win
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Now THAT feels much better
Are you talking about
A. Todays result
B. A dump you have just taken
C. A w*nk you have just had
;)
Or all three within 90 mins. Just imagine that
Late to the party, but gotta love how 'having sex' was just nowhere in the list of options. Personalising the Realistic Expectations thread I see.
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not even a reference to Douglas Luiz goal. Had that been Messi or Ronaldo we would have seen it shown a dozen times
This is true, the guy hits the ball from open play like most (excluding Conor) would kill to hit it from a dead ball. Special talent.
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Great result and well deserved.
The pressing of the front three was impressive and sustainaned.
Can we do this against stronger sides? Only time will tell.
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Norwich is a great away day, it’s just a shame it’s so awkward to get to. Their fans are generally a decent, friendly bunch too.
The whole team were on it from minute one to minute ninety today. MOTM for me was Marvelous, who was just superb. The final score actually flattered Norwich.
Special shout out to the bellend behind me who called for Wesley to be taken off as he’s shit, in the 8th minute! Otherwise, the support was brilliant.
Took us 4.5 hours to get there on the coach today. Thank god we won!
Standard journey time in the late ‘70’s but I never experienced such an emphatic victory.
We are better than our position and still improving. A very important win today.
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More than the three points it will give a tremendous confidence boost to the squad the pressure is off Wesley for the present. For me the only downside was the defence in the first half they had really good chances that a better side would have put away.
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Great result and a brilliant boost for the team. What a great effort, it makes me a very happy person today.
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Now THAT feels much better
Are you talking about
A. Todays result
B. A dump you have just taken
C. A w*nk you have just had
;)
Or all three within 90 mins. Just imagine that
Late to the party, but gotta love how 'having sex' was just nowhere in the list of options. Personalising the Realistic Expectations thread I see.
You know what they say, sex is ok but you can’t beat the real thing.
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Excellent win. Only watched it on the iPad so really a camera perspective but we pressed well, always seemed to have the “spare man”, got the ball in quickly and took the chances well. Over all a pretty damn good performance.
My one niggle is that Mings mistake. No matter how well he plays generally, and he does play well, he seems very prone to that one error that costs. I think that he’s been at fault at Palace, Arse and Norwich for goals. I also think he was partly to blame for one last week (but that may be harsh). Hopefully as he plays more and more at this level he will cut that part of his decision making out - or we can be five up and not have to worry too much.
Only a niggle and didn’t spoil my total enjoyment of thumping a team we struggled against twice last year.
UTFV
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Crikey- just been to the newsagents and the front pages of the papers are a Villa fest! (Well a 'Prince George in Villa tee-shirt' fest to be accurate)
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A couple of us watched the game yesterday with the Irish Lions over in Dublin. Massive shout out to the chap who runs it over there, it was great and they made us feel very welcome.
What a game to pick to watch though, we were great. I know they had players missing but still, five away from home is pretty impressive. No-one really had a bad game but the pick of the bunch for me was Nakamba. He really looks a bloody good player. I thought he might have dropped Big Wes but he's stuck with him and it was more like it yesterday. Let's just hope we can pick it up again after the break.
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Well done Villa boys and Dean.
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Crikey- just been to the newsagents and the front pages of the papers are a Villa fest! (Well a 'Prince George in Villa tee-shirt' fest to be accurate)
Well let's hope that the Villa sales and marketing team are on it. I've heard it said that pictures of royal children in "high street" fashion sees those items sell out overnight. Instant money in the club's coffers and perhaps some new long-term fans to boot. However, I somehow doubt that the I-want-it-right-now yummy mummy who is used to shopping on Kensington High Street will be content with "we should have some more stock in by Christmas..."
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Can we now market ourselves as 'Aston Villa Football Club - By Royal Appointment'?
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I noticed at half time when they were doing the bubble football (which was pretty funny) that they descrives one part of their ground as "the Snake Pit". Jesus.
Not a lot to say that hasn't been said. With the A14 closed it felt a bit odd to be going past Leeds just under an hour in, but it worked out quicker.
We looked at it from the off. McGinniesta and Grealish found so much room, the full backs pressed high and Wesley gained us the territory by bullying them.
Defensively only two blots for me. Mings not choosing the simple option when recycling it second half and running down a blind alley, instead of a 5 yard pass inside. And then goal of course. I thought Heaton was a little slow to react as he lost sight of the ball in the sun, which hung over all second half above the stand to the left and made it roasting down the front.
McGinn and El Ghazi could have scored first half with shots, the effort onto the bar, Wesley and his penalty. It could have been 8.
Nkamba is brilliant too.
I think Leicester under O'Leary was the last time we drummed somebody 5 away from home.
Brilliant. Well worth almost 10 hours in a car.
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Credit Wesley for 2 goals (though Davis could have scored them and his penalty was weak af as was his attempt from penalty rebound and the free header straight at gk) as expected him to be up it today though 2nd half he wasn't exactly part of the attacks but was occupying the defence throughout .
Your snidey remarks are unnecessary, footy. From what I saw throughout the game, Wesley was excellent and his work rate was pretty much sustained throughout. He won a telling header in the first half which AEG should have converted on the rebound (rather than hitting the bar). He won two important headers in defence in the last 10 minutes. And – most important – the ball was played into his feet far more than has been the case in the season to date. He looked so much better as a result. Yes, his penalty was poor (as Risso said, you could see from the run-up what was going to happen) but the follow-up was blocked by the keeper and went for a corner.
We do not know what Davis could or would have done, even if he is – for me – a important cog in our future development.
Guilbert offered a lot going forward and el Ghazi could have done whatever he wanted but as defensive combo on that side villa were again very suspect and Norwich could have scored first half from poor defensive work from these two on the right side.
Agreed. In the first half, Norwich could have punished us down their left with 2 or 3 man overlaps regularly on Guilbert. A better side would have whipped us down that wing on the day.
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It was certainly Grealish's best game so far, even if Naaaarrich were depleted of first-choice players. Apart from two wayward passes early on, he was excellent and I thought his decision-making particularly impressive.
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I've read elsewhere it was nearly the same Norwich side that beat Man City, Not sure how true that is.
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Farke said a couple of their players had to take injections to play yesterday.
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A couple of us watched the game yesterday with the Irish Lions over in Dublin. Massive shout out to the chap who runs it over there, it was great and they made us feel very welcome.
What a game to pick to watch though, we were great. I know they had players missing but still, five away from home is pretty impressive. No-one really had a bad game but the pick of the bunch for me was Nakamba. He really looks a bloody good player. I thought he might have dropped Big Wes but he's stuck with him and it was more like it yesterday. Let's just hope we can pick it up again after the break.
International PERIOD, not BREAK! Deano stressed that the players whose international teams won't have them will be working their bollixes off at Bodymoor.
Was the pub the one at the top of O'Connell Street? Pretty sure last game I saw there was also a win at Norwich when Kozak scored on his debut.
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I’ve watched Norwich a few times this season and they have impressed me and have goals in them. Even against Liverpool on the opening day they could have been 2 up before suffering the hammering they had. They were all over the place yesterday, not themselves at all. We full well took advantage of it so credit to us.
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I've read elsewhere it was nearly the same Norwich side that beat Man City, Not sure how true that is.
Just checked, only 3 changes to the starting eleven that beat city.
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You can only beat what's in front of you and we did that comprehensively, unlike against the 10 men of West Ham and Arsenal. So credit where it's due.
I'd agree with the Mings comments though, he's gone a bit Tommy Elphick in the last few games, doing just fine then dropping a bollock to concede a goal. You could say the same of Engels too. They need to maintain concentration for 90+ minutes.
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A couple of us watched the game yesterday with the Irish Lions over in Dublin. Massive shout out to the chap who runs it over there, it was great and they made us feel very welcome.
What a game to pick to watch though, we were great. I know they had players missing but still, five away from home is pretty impressive. No-one really had a bad game but the pick of the bunch for me was Nakamba. He really looks a bloody good player. I thought he might have dropped Big Wes but he's stuck with him and it was more like it yesterday. Let's just hope we can pick it up again after the break.
International PERIOD, not BREAK! Deano stressed that the players whose international teams won't have them will be working their bollixes off at Bodymoor.
Was the pub the one at the top of O'Connell Street? Pretty sure last game I saw there was also a win at Norwich when Kozak scored on his debut.
Haha, I always put break as in a break for us fans.
If you mean Murray's Bar, that's the one at the top of O'connell Street. We were in there but watched the game somewhere else. The Irish Lions have moved from there now to a place in Temple Bar but we got discounted drinks for being Villa fans. Which was nice.
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With Mings' pass to Heaton at the end for their goal, McGinn really played him into trouble with a high, looped ball that he was always going to struggle to do anything with.
Collectively we can be smarter in that regard.
But! 1-5?! Amazing result. As others have said, that's been coming. Great stuff, Villa.
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I've read elsewhere it was nearly the same Norwich side that beat Man City, Not sure how true that is.
Was stronger, they had a really scratch defence out v Man. City. Yesterday they had Godfrey who's a regular plus their first choice full backs.
Doubt Krul would've made any difference saving any of the goals and of course he might've dived the other side for the penalty.
Of course many probably weren't 100% as Farke said, there was a cronic lack of closing down on us 25 yards from goal so we just had free reign to have shots and run into the box which we duly accepted.
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The Irish Lions have moved from there now to a place in Temple Bar but we got discounted drinks for being Villa fans. Which was nice.
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Here's a good idea. I think more pubs should offer this................
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A couple of us watched the game yesterday with the Irish Lions over in Dublin. Massive shout out to the chap who runs it over there, it was great and they made us feel very welcome.
What a game to pick to watch though, we were great. I know they had players missing but still, five away from home is pretty impressive. No-one really had a bad game but the pick of the bunch for me was Nakamba. He really looks a bloody good player. I thought he might have dropped Big Wes but he's stuck with him and it was more like it yesterday. Let's just hope we can pick it up again after the break.
International PERIOD, not BREAK! Deano stressed that the players whose international teams won't have them will be working their bollixes off at Bodymoor.
Was the pub the one at the top of O'Connell Street? Pretty sure last game I saw there was also a win at Norwich when Kozak scored on his debut.
Haha, I always put break as in a break for us fans.
If you mean Murray's Bar, that's the one at the top of O'connell Street. We were in there but watched the game somewhere else. The Irish Lions have moved from there now to a place in Temple Bar but we got discounted drinks for being Villa fans. Which was nice.
Fucking hell! Drinking in Temple Bar, does your bank manager know yet?
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A couple of us watched the game yesterday with the Irish Lions over in Dublin. Massive shout out to the chap who runs it over there, it was great and they made us feel very welcome.
What a game to pick to watch though, we were great. I know they had players missing but still, five away from home is pretty impressive. No-one really had a bad game but the pick of the bunch for me was Nakamba. He really looks a bloody good player. I thought he might have dropped Big Wes but he's stuck with him and it was more like it yesterday. Let's just hope we can pick it up again after the break.
International PERIOD, not BREAK! Deano stressed that the players whose international teams won't have them will be working their bollixes off at Bodymoor.
Was the pub the one at the top of O'Connell Street? Pretty sure last game I saw there was also a win at Norwich when Kozak scored on his debut.
Haha, I always put break as in a break for us fans.
If you mean Murray's Bar, that's the one at the top of O'connell Street. We were in there but watched the game somewhere else. The Irish Lions have moved from there now to a place in Temple Bar but we got discounted drinks for being Villa fans. Which was nice.
Fucking hell! Drinking in Temple Bar, does your bank manager know yet?
Haha, it was a tad pricey. Like I said, that's were the Irish Lions are based now but we only stopped for the game.
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What is it with both BBC and Goals on Sunday not analysing Luiz's goal. Both of them didn't bother. Have I missed something here? It was the best of the lot.
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We needed the points, we needed a 90 minute performance and we needed Wesley to produce, and the lads delivered on all three.
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Jesus, a whole half a page about how a goal we conceded that was nothing to do with Wesley is somehow Wesley's fault. Take your illiterate rubbish elsewhere, eh?
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Your constant sniping at Wesley's getting really tedious. Give it a rest.
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He wasn't moaning. The fourth official was telling him to either get on or off the pitch, and he was pointing out that he was simply putting his boot back on his heel properly. After which he got up and moved, and then McGinn took the free kick.
Is how I saw it.
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Your constant sniping at Wesley's getting really tedious. Give it a rest.
Agreed.
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Your constant sniping at Wesley's getting really tedious. Give it a rest.
Agreed.
Started doing my head in a while ago
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Jesus, a whole half a page about how a goal we conceded that was nothing to do with Wesley is somehow Wesley's fault. Take your illiterate rubbish elsewhere, eh?
With analysis you have to analyze the whole pie.
Wesley was a distraction to the situation. If he got up and asked play me in with a quick run down the line ne applauding it similar that he's on the floor then moaning to assistant.
And in fairness I can also say Hourihane was foolish in his booking.
So could have been avoided but he had a poor sporting attitude for getting that card and was giving some to Max Arrons . Think Conor was buzzing from his first premier league goal as he got booked not long after but he had a poor showing there too.
Dean Smith will point this ill discipline out to.
So Wesley not alone.
What Risso is trying to say is, not everything has to be over analysed. He was poor last time out. He was much better yesterday, scored two goals (which is what he is there for) and his all round play was much better and he needs to keep it up. That's it. Bringing up the fact that he was sat on the touchline after being fouled is just looking for something to pick him up on for the sake of it. I don't see the point.
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Your constant sniping at Wesley's getting really tedious. Give it a rest.
Listen mate .
I'm commenting on all aspects so actually I think that's a selective comment.
I also want the best and pointing out things which haven't been pointed out.
Why don't you give a rest in commenting on other people's views with your opinion.
Same with Risso
Concentrate on your own views and football opinions.
Trying to criticize others views is really not called for. Same with Risso .
Let's leave it to football and views and opinions are that .
If someone is factual making a point here then there is even more so no comment to be made but agreement.
And also this is what coaches go over with players so I'm actually showing how footballers work in development.
If any thing you should both be thanking me
Now if you don't mind let's stick to the football
Being patronising is not going to win you many friends.
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Jesus, a whole half a page about how a goal we conceded that was nothing to do with Wesley is somehow Wesley's fault. Take your illiterate rubbish elsewhere, eh?
With analysis you have to analyze the whole pie.
Wesley was a distraction to the situation. If he got up and asked play me in with a quick run down the line ne applauding it similar that he's on the floor then moaning to assistant.
And in fairness I can also say Hourihane was foolish in his booking.
So could have been avoided but he had a poor sporting attitude for getting that card and was giving some to Max Arrons . Think Conor was buzzing from his first premier league goal as he got booked not long after but he had a poor showing there too.
Dean Smith will point this ill discipline out to.
So Wesley not alone.
What Risso is trying to say is, not everything has to be over analysed. He was poor last time out. He was much better yesterday, scored two goals (which is what he is there for) and his all round play was much better and he needs to keep it up. That's it. Bringing up the fact that he was sat on the touchline after being fouled is just looking for something to pick him up on for the sake of it. I don't see the point.
Exactly. Their goal was an uncharacteristic error from a combination of McGinn, Mings and Heaton. Even though we were 5-0 up, it shouldn't have happened. None of it however, was Wesley's fault at all. I haven't been impressed with Wes up til now, but I can't see how you can criticise him at all yesterday. He scored two, held the ball up well, and generally put in the effort that had been missing against Burnley. If he plays like he did yesterday for the rest of the season, even if he doesn't score, we'll be doing well.
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I might have the wrong end of the stick, but I’m beginning to think you don’t like Wesley
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Funny how Davis would have scored those goals yesterday, despite only managing, I think, 3 in all his championship appearances. I like Davis and think he has something to offer but I don't believe for one second he'd be on 4 goals if he'd played all season.
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Can some stop seeing our second as a tap-in? It was a very sharp finish.
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You may well have scored them, Davis wouldn't have though.
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Please, can someone make it stop.....?
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It's ok he'll flounce off again soon.
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I've got an idea. How about Wesley was bad in one game then good in another game? Fucking radical stuff I know.
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I've got an idea. How about Wesley was bad in one game then good in another game? Fucking radical stuff I know m
It's a bold theory, radical even but I think you just might be onto something!
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Not that I like to be patronised by scousers, but one fella I know, said to me after I moaned a bit about us not being able to defend a lead: it’s a new team, you’ve got to learn in the premier league and you’ll get better as games go by. I think that win has been coming for a few matches now. Hopefully gives everyone around the club a bit of confidence.
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Just seen that after Norwich scored they played their goal celebration music. Embarrassing, yes but an excellent choice, Celebration Suite by Airto. Now guess which country Airto is from? Here's a clue; 3 of the goals yesterday were scored by his fellow countrymen.
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With analysis you have to analyze the whole pie.
Indeed. And of the two centre forwards yesterday I thought Wesley much more effective than Pukka.
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With analysis you have to analyze the whole pie.
Indeed. And of the two centre forwards yesterday I thought Wesley much more effective than Pukka.
Wouldn't the whole pie be 3.14... centre forwards?
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Does anyone know the name of the ex footballer (with a southern accent) who was commenting on our match yesterday? He's on the Sky highlights. I recognise his voice but can't place him.
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Tony Gayle?
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Thank you! It was really bugging yesterday and his name still hadn't come to me even after a good nights sleep.
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Credit it where it's due: Wesley had a very good game yesterday; partly because the team played to his strengths; partyl because he knuckled down and worked hard.
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Tony Gayle?
Former Fulham, West Ham and Blackburn defender Tony Gale seems to be quite complimentary about Villa quite a lot. He must like us despite once being sent off in an FA Cup semi final at Villa Park. I remember us being linked with signing Gale from Fulham in the latter stages of Ron Saunders reign.
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Tony Gayle?
Former Fulham, West Ham and Blackburn defender Tony Gale seems to be quite complimentary about Villa quite a lot. He must like us despite once being sent off in an FA Cup semi final at Villa Park. I remember us being linked with signing Gale from Fulham in the latter stages of Ron Saunders reign.
Have met the chap. Good laugh and does have a lot of time for the villa . Told some funny stories but couldn't possible repeat them about an ex player of one of our rivals.
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Yes you could.
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I do know a few stories about a former Small Heath and West Ham player whose interest in white lines went beyond the football pitch.
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Yes you could.
Unfortunately I cant just in case Mr.Woodhall received a solicitor's letter which would involve him shelling out money to respond to.
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Yes, there is that small matter.
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Either a bloke on a wind up or just a massive, massive bell end calling into TS last night
https://twitter.com/talksport/status/1180855736399740928?s=12
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Not a Villa fan, no way.
And a massive bell end
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Why do some fans always feel the need for a moral high horse to clamber onto?
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And just on the Ming’s backpass. Heaton hesitated (I think because of the sun). The ball back from McGinn was unnecessary to begin with.
Mings was IMMENSE in this game. Blocks, clearances...to hear he was being boo’d is ridiculous! What about the goal line stand in 1st half?
When people point out, actually, it was Norwich fans booing (former Ipswich player) Mings, then doubles down:
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This was based on comments posted here. There is still an anti-Mings faction from a group that still thinks he was ridiculously over valued.
Anti Mings faction?
About as much as there's an Anti Brian Little faction.
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Either a bloke on a wind up or just a massive, massive bell end calling into TS last night
https://twitter.com/talksport/status/1180855736399740928?s=12
Speaking of Talksport did anyone else hear this one from Tony Cascarino? "i was at the World cup finals in 94' with Ireland. I got a call from home telling me my wife had given birth to our beautiful baby. I called Interflora and ordered a huge bouquet of flowers to be sent to the hospital. I'm that used to replying to fan mail and such like i asked them to write on the card CONGRATULATIONS, TONY CASCARINO. Mrs Cascarino was not impressed" Made me laugh when i heard him tell that one on the radio.
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I do know a few stories about a former Small Heath and West Ham player whose interest in white lines went beyond the football pitch.
Did he listen to Grandmaster Flash and Melle Mel over and over again?
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Happy for the win. We are at least in these games and scoring. Let’s hope we keep going as we looked clinical yesterday in exploiting Norwich
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I'm that used to replying to fan mail...
Not from Villa, Celtic or Chelsea fans he isn't.
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Either a bloke on a wind up or just a massive, massive bell end calling into TS last night
https://twitter.com/talksport/status/1180855736399740928?s=12
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. I mean the natural reaction to your team winning 5-1 away from home is to phone up a national radio station and demand the manager is sacked. Makes a good point about Mings as well. I mean James Chester is clearly suffering some pretty serious injury problems and hasn't played a game so far this season, but he should definitely be in the side out of position ahead of a player whose good form in the last year has earned him a call up to the England squad.
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Not a Villa fan, no way.
And a massive bell end
I reckon he is a Villa fan, he knows too much to be a Nose on a wind up. Just a very stupid one.
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It's going to be a great trip back!
Enjoy! Reminds me of a trip back from Norwich with the Sutton Lions one cold Tuesday night after a 2-0 cup win. We sang 'The Bells Are Ringing' non-stop all the way back to Brum.
League Cup quarter final 1984? After we sang it for ages during the match?
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Not a Villa fan, no way.
And a massive bell end
I reckon he is a Villa fan, he knows too much to be a Nose on a wind up. Just a very stupid one.
As they always say "if you wanna know whats happening at the Villa ask a blues fan" but IF he's a Villa fan he's probably one of those numptys who think the Marvelous Nakamba song is cool.
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Not a Villa fan, no way.
And a massive bell end
I reckon he is a Villa fan, he knows too much to be a Nose on a wind up. Just a very stupid one.
As they always say "if you wanna know whats happening at the Villa ask a blues fan" but IF he's a Villa fan he's probably one of those numptys who think the Marvelous Nakamba song is cool.
He said ‘I love Villa’ far too many times to be a nose on a wind up - that would have hurt too much!
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Definitely a nose. And an idiot.
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It's going to be a great trip back!
Enjoy! Reminds me of a trip back from Norwich with the Sutton Lions one cold Tuesday night after a 2-0 cup win. We sang 'The Bells Are Ringing' non-stop all the way back to Brum.
League Cup quarter final 1984? After we sang it for ages during the match?
The very same.
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I've got an idea. How about Wesley was bad in one game then good in another game? Fucking radical stuff I know.
I thought his first goal was better (ignoring the poor Norwich defending) as he had to control-turn-shoot
But I'm sorry, I just dont think he has that much to his game. I want to see him take the ball and run with it and at least shoot from outside the 6 yard box.
I know its a team game, and you need different players. And he should get up a bit quicker after going down on the turf. But I do realise that there is more of him to get up, after going down ;)
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Absolutely refreshing to view a Norwich thread on their board criticising VAR.
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Hopefully Saturday's performance is our Stoke away moment and now can kick-on.
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Three points against Brighton and I think we'll be well set. Not to be complacent, but there's clearly not much between any of the teams outside the top 2. We've got good defence that's only going to improve, and we're creating a fair few chances. We really do have to cut out the silly mistakes at the back though, that's got to be our immediate priority.
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my favourite goal on Saturday was Wesley's second
good move
great ball in from Hourahane, and i'm not his biggest fan on here but credit to him there he put it on a plate for Wesley
the reason i liked it best is because it was a pure strikers goal a poachers goal,
we were told Wesley wasn't that sort of player and maybe he isn't in general but it was nice to see a centre forward for Villa in the right place at the right time just doing the simple thing of getting on the end a decent move
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my favourite goal on Saturday was Wesley's second
good move
great ball in from Hourahane, and i'm not his biggest fan on here but credit to him there he put it on a plate for Wesley
the reason i liked it best is because it was a pure strikers goal a poachers goal,
we were told Wesley wasn't that sort of player and maybe he isn't in general but it was nice to see a centre forward for Villa in the right place at the right time just doing the simple thing of getting on the end a decent move
No, apparently that was such an easy goal that Brice Jovial/ Englishskillzzz could have tucked it away. Wesley deserves zero credit.
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my favourite goal on Saturday was Wesley's second
good move
great ball in from Hourahane, and i'm not his biggest fan on here but credit to him there he put it on a plate for Wesley
the reason i liked it best is because it was a pure strikers goal a poachers goal,
we were told Wesley wasn't that sort of player and maybe he isn't in general but it was nice to see a centre forward for Villa in the right place at the right time just doing the simple thing of getting on the end a decent move
As was his Arsenal goal
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my favourite goal on Saturday was Wesley's second
good move
great ball in from Hourahane, and i'm not his biggest fan on here but credit to him there he put it on a plate for Wesley
the reason i liked it best is because it was a pure strikers goal a poachers goal,
we were told Wesley wasn't that sort of player and maybe he isn't in general but it was nice to see a centre forward for Villa in the right place at the right time just doing the simple thing of getting on the end a decent move
No, apparently that was such an easy goal that Brice Jovial/ Englishskillzzz could have tucked it away. Wesley deserves zero credit.
We’re probably not on the same page me and jovial
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my favourite goal on Saturday was Wesley's second
good move
great ball in from Hourahane, and i'm not his biggest fan on here but credit to him there he put it on a plate for Wesley
the reason i liked it best is because it was a pure strikers goal a poachers goal,
we were told Wesley wasn't that sort of player and maybe he isn't in general but it was nice to see a centre forward for Villa in the right place at the right time just doing the simple thing of getting on the end a decent move
No, apparently that was such an easy goal that Brice Jovial/ Englishskillzzz could have tucked it away. Wesley deserves zero credit.
It was a nice goal. I haven't seen Skillz post on it but if he was saying the defending was shocking and it was a pretty easy goal for Wesley then I'd agree with him. Wes made a straight run from 30 yards out and the defence just ignored him and left him in acres of space. It was a good finish, but he won't get many easier goals than that.
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Three points against Brighton and I think we'll be well set. Not to be complacent, but there's clearly not much between any of the teams outside the top 2. We've got good defence that's only going to improve, and we're creating a fair few chances. We really do have to cut out the silly mistakes at the back though, that's got to be our immediate priority.
Next 5:
Brighton (H)
Man City (A)
Liverpool (H)
Wolves (A)
Newcastle (H)
We have to win the first and last and hope for the best in the middle, I would say. Also a league cup game with Wolves in between the City/Liverpool games.
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Three points against Brighton and I think we'll be well set. Not to be complacent, but there's clearly not much between any of the teams outside the top 2. We've got good defence that's only going to improve, and we're creating a fair few chances. We really do have to cut out the silly mistakes at the back though, that's got to be our immediate priority.
Next 5:
Brighton (H)
Man City (A)
Liverpool (H)
Wolves (A)
Newcastle (H)
We have to win the first and last and hope for the best in the middle, I would say. Also a league cup game with Wolves in between the City/Liverpool games.
We definately need to win the two home games against Brighton and Newcastle. I don't tend to fancy Brighton when they are playing away from home and Newcastle's win against United was more down to how poor manure were as opposed to Newcastle suddenly becoming world beaters.
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Three points against Brighton and I think we'll be well set. Not to be complacent, but there's clearly not much between any of the teams outside the top 2. We've got good defence that's only going to improve, and we're creating a fair few chances. We really do have to cut out the silly mistakes at the back though, that's got to be our immediate priority.
Next 5:
Brighton (H)
Man City (A)
Liverpool (H)
Wolves (A)
Newcastle (H)
We have to win the first and last and hope for the best in the middle, I would say. Also a league cup game with Wolves in between the City/Liverpool games.
I can see 8 points from that lot, which would be decent. Beat Brighton and Newcastle, draw at home to Liverpool and away to the Dingles, loss at City.
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did anyone else see at half time the Norwich stewards taking all the flags from their support and putting them in wheelie bins ?
very strange behaviour...lol
UTV
The Doc
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Three points against Brighton and I think we'll be well set. Not to be complacent, but there's clearly not much between any of the teams outside the top 2. We've got good defence that's only going to improve, and we're creating a fair few chances. We really do have to cut out the silly mistakes at the back though, that's got to be our immediate priority.
Next 5:
Brighton (H)
Man City (A)
Liverpool (H)
Wolves (A)
Newcastle (H)
We have to win the first and last and hope for the best in the middle, I would say. Also a league cup game with Wolves in between the City/Liverpool games.
I can see 8 points from that lot, which would be decent. Beat Brighton and Newcastle, draw at home to Liverpool and away to the Dingles, loss at City.
That would be an excellent return. A bit optomistic I feel, but you never know.
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did anyone else see at half time the Norwich stewards taking all the flags from their support and putting them in wheelie bins ?
very strange behaviour...lol
UTV
The Doc
Ready to hand out next game!
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Three points against Brighton and I think we'll be well set. Not to be complacent, but there's clearly not much between any of the teams outside the top 2. We've got good defence that's only going to improve, and we're creating a fair few chances. We really do have to cut out the silly mistakes at the back though, that's got to be our immediate priority.
Next 5:
Brighton (H)
Man City (A)
Liverpool (H)
Wolves (A)
Newcastle (H)
We have to win the first and last and hope for the best in the middle, I would say. Also a league cup game with Wolves in between the City/Liverpool games.
I can see 8 points from that lot, which would be decent. Beat Brighton and Newcastle, draw at home to Liverpool and away to the Dingles, loss at City.
more optimistic than me
I still think we have a great chance of staying up and believe we will
But after our games against Spurs and Arsenal where under pressure we turn into one of grandmas apple crumbles I’m not sure we will take any points off any of the top 6 sides
so I’m writing off 36 points right there, 6 already gone
so it makes the other games more important wins against Brighton and Newcastle are definitely doable
keeping the score respectable against 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' and Man City to keep our goal different ok is all I’m expecting from them to be honest
any points against the top 6 teams will be a massive bonus not because we arnt good enough but because we still don’t believe in ourselves enough
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Three points against Brighton and I think we'll be well set. Not to be complacent, but there's clearly not much between any of the teams outside the top 2. We've got good defence that's only going to improve, and we're creating a fair few chances. We really do have to cut out the silly mistakes at the back though, that's got to be our immediate priority.
Next 5:
Brighton (H)
Man City (A)
Liverpool (H)
Wolves (A)
Newcastle (H)
We have to win the first and last and hope for the best in the middle, I would say. Also a league cup game with Wolves in between the City/Liverpool games.
I can see 8 points from that lot, which would be decent. Beat Brighton and Newcastle, draw at home to Liverpool and away to the Dingles, loss at City.
I’d ecstatic with that return, I’d also be surprised.
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Wes needs to work on his goal celebrations - not good enough
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Three points against Brighton and I think we'll be well set. Not to be complacent, but there's clearly not much between any of the teams outside the top 2. We've got good defence that's only going to improve, and we're creating a fair few chances. We really do have to cut out the silly mistakes at the back though, that's got to be our immediate priority.
Next 5:
Brighton (H)
Man City (A)
Liverpool (H)
Wolves (A)
Newcastle (H)
We have to win the first and last and hope for the best in the middle, I would say. Also a league cup game with Wolves in between the City/Liverpool games.
I can see 8 points from that lot, which would be decent. Beat Brighton and Newcastle, draw at home to Liverpool and away to the Dingles, loss at City.
I’d ecstatic with that return, I’d also be surprised.
Me too. Feels like people are getting carried away after we beat a dead cert for relegation. If we get 6 from the next 5 I’ll be very happy - that will be an improvement on the last 5 and these are much tougher fixtures.
A draw at home to Liverpool - I’ll have what your drinking - they are possibly the best team in world football right now and are in a very different league than us. Let’s just take it one step at a time
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While I agree some people are getting excited, the reality is that we need to aim for 6-8 points from our next 8 matches if we want to keep our heads above water.
The average points haul for relegated clubs in the last five seasons is 5.7 after eight games. Five clubs were relegated having earned 8 points or more.
The relegated clubs averaged 7 points from their next eight games, giving an average points haul of 13 points after 16 games. Three clubs were relegated with 14 points or more.
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Using the basic method of assuming 38 points ( 1 point per game as an average) would be enough to stay up then we are smack on
After the next 5 (15 points) if we win the 2 games against Brighton / Newcastle and bugger all else then we would have a record of played 13 with 14 points returned so still on target
Anything from the other 3 ('The Mighty Reds YNWA' / Citeh / Dogheads) is a Bonus - the following 5 are just as tricky so we need to maintain momentum where we can
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Three points against Brighton and I think we'll be well set. Not to be complacent, but there's clearly not much between any of the teams outside the top 2. We've got good defence that's only going to improve, and we're creating a fair few chances. We really do have to cut out the silly mistakes at the back though, that's got to be our immediate priority.
Next 5:
Brighton (H)
Man City (A)
Liverpool (H)
Wolves (A)
Newcastle (H)
We have to win the first and last and hope for the best in the middle, I would say. Also a league cup game with Wolves in between the City/Liverpool games.
I can see 8 points from that lot, which would be decent. Beat Brighton and Newcastle, draw at home to Liverpool and away to the Dingles, loss at City.
I’d ecstatic with that return, I’d also be surprised.
Me too. Feels like people are getting carried away after we beat a dead cert for relegation. If we get 6 from the next 5 I’ll be very happy - that will be an improvement on the last 5 and these are much tougher fixtures.
A draw at home to Liverpool - I’ll have what your drinking - they are possibly the best team in world football right now and are in a very different league than us. Let’s just take it one step at a time
The dead cert for relegation you mention had juat last month beaten Man City, very much in a different league from them.
Not saying a draw against Liverpool is probable or ahould be expected, but we shouldn't go into any game with the attitude we have no chance of a positive result.
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It was a great win but should be tempered against the fact Norwich were down to the bare bones of their squad.
Brighton will be a tough game.
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It was a great win but should be tempered against the fact Norwich were down to the bare bones of their squad.
Brighton will be a tough game.
I read somewhere there were only two differences between the line up that started against us and the one that beat Man City.
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It was a great win but should be tempered against the fact Norwich were down to the bare bones of their squad.
Brighton will be a tough game.
I am sorry but no tempering is necessary. Every game is different and offers a different challenge. We will deal with Brighton.
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It was a great win but should be tempered against the fact Norwich were down to the bare bones of their squad.
Brighton will be a tough game.
I am sorry but no tempering is necessary. Every game is different and offers a different challenge. We will deal with Brighton.
We will funeral Brighton.
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It was a great win but should be tempered against the fact Norwich were down to the bare bones of their squad.
Brighton will be a tough game.
I am sorry but no tempering is necessary. Every game is different and offers a different challenge. We will deal with Brighton.
We will funeral Brighton.
However, having said that, I will be having a few quid on Maupay to score, as I can see the gigantic why-didn't-we-buy-him wailathon on here, already.
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Everyone will point to the injury problems Norwich have, but as I understand it there were only 3 changes from the team that beat Man City, one of which was a first choice defender coming back into the side.
Regardless of that, even if you don’t see the match as being truly reflective of our first 11 versus theirs, it is a true reflection of our squad versus theirs. They didn’t strengthen very much over the summer and are now struggling with that because while they do have a strong first team, they are struggling to cope with injuries. We have a far stronger squad which will cope better over a long season.
Three of Norwich’s back four were first choice, I don’t think their keeper had much to do with the result as it’s not like he was dropping howlers. It was pointed out in the summer that Norwich’s defence wasn’t great last season, they didn’t strengthen it, they’re going to concede a lot of goals over the course of the season.
We should certainly see this as evidence that we are in a much better state to survive this season than Norwich are.
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Everyone will point to the injury problems Norwich have, but as I understand it there were only 3 changes from the team that beat Man City, one of which was a first choice defender coming back into the side.
Regardless of that, even if you don’t see the match as being truly reflective of our first 11 versus theirs, it is a true reflection of our squad versus theirs. They didn’t strengthen very much over the summer and are now struggling with that because while they do have a strong first team, they are struggling to cope with injuries. We have a far stronger squad which will cope better over a long season.
Three of Norwich’s back four were first choice, I don’t think their keeper had much to do with the result as it’s not like he was dropping howlers. It was pointed out in the summer that Norwich’s defence wasn’t great last season, they didn’t strengthen it, they’re going to concede a lot of goals over the course of the season.
We should certainly see this as evidence that we are in a much better state
to survive this season than Norwich are.
Hope you are right
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I agree Dog T Norwich squad is very thin and why I think they will struggle as the season develops, 3 changes would make a pretty big difference as well.
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It was a great win but should be tempered against the fact Norwich were down to the bare bones of their squad.
Brighton will be a tough game.
I am sorry but no tempering is necessary. Every game is different and offers a different challenge. We will deal with Brighton.
We will funeral Brighton.
However, having said that, I will be having a few quid on Maupay to score, as I can see the gigantic why-didn't-we-buy-him wailathon on here, already.
With reason, in my opinion.
Maupay is very good.
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Last time a newly-promoted team scored five away from home was more than eighteen years ago. Leeds finished fifth, Man City were in the second tier and So Solid Crew were top of the hit parade.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/1495420.stm
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Three points against Brighton and I think we'll be well set. Not to be complacent, but there's clearly not much between any of the teams outside the top 2. We've got good defence that's only going to improve, and we're creating a fair few chances. We really do have to cut out the silly mistakes at the back though, that's got to be our immediate priority.
Next 5:
Brighton (H)
Man City (A)
Liverpool (H)
Wolves (A)
Newcastle (H)
We have to win the first and last and hope for the best in the middle, I would say. Also a league cup game with Wolves in between the City/Liverpool games.
I can see 8 points from that lot, which would be decent. Beat Brighton and Newcastle, draw at home to Liverpool and away to the Dingles, loss at City.
I’d ecstatic with that return, I’d also be surprised.
Me too. Feels like people are getting carried away after we beat a dead cert for relegation. If we get 6 from the next 5 I’ll be very happy - that will be an improvement on the last 5 and these are much tougher fixtures.
A draw at home to Liverpool - I’ll have what your drinking - they are possibly the best team in world football right now and are in a very different league than us. Let’s just take it one step at a time
The dead cert for relegation you mention had juat last month beaten Man City, very much in a different league from them.
Not saying a draw against Liverpool is probable or ahould be expected, but we shouldn't go into any game with the attitude we have no chance of a positive result.
Can't see us drawing with Lpool but we live in hope
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We thought our winning run last season was incredible (and it was), but Liverpool have won 17 - SEVENTEEN - league matches on the bounce. They are in the sort of form you see once in a career. A draw would be incredible.
That said, all runs come to an end eventually, and it would be nice to be the ones to do it!
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They were spawny as anything against Leicester though, that should have been a draw.
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I like to think when a team is winning match after match that each win brings them one game closer to their next loss.
If Liverpool haven’t dropped points by the time they play us then who knows, it could be us who get something off them.
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It was a great win but should be tempered against the fact Norwich were down to the bare bones of their squad.
Brighton will be a tough game.
I am sorry but no tempering is necessary. Every game is different and offers a different challenge. We will deal with Brighton.
We will funeral Brighton.
However, having said that, I will be having a few quid on Maupay to score, as I can see the gigantic why-didn't-we-buy-him wailathon on here, already.
With reason, in my opinion.
Maupay is very good.
I really don't think he is that great, I'm not saying he's rubbish just not good enough for us and where we want to be going forward
I'm glad we didn't sign him, keeps our powder dry to see what we need and have a better look in Jan or May
obviously if he turns up on Saturday and is staggeringly brilliant I'll have to eat humble pie but for now I don't regret not signing him
he's the only player in Christendom where even his you-tube video reel doesn't impress to much