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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Tuscans on February 13, 2019, 06:58:42 PM
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Well, I'm glad that Taylor is out, but Hause? Eeeeeeeek. Oh well, he has to be better than his last outing, otherwise you'd have to actually ask if he's another cousin of George Weah.
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Surely Hause is better than Taylor? Hourihane needs to step up a bit aswell.
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Hutton captain?
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To be fair, we did see him play 20 minutes at Wigan, after 3 games in 18 months and in a desperate team performance, so naturally we should write him off.
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Ramsey on bench ooooooh
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To be fair, we did see him play 20 minutes at Wigan, after 3 games in 18 months and in a desperate team performance, so naturally we should write him off.
Has anybody written him off? Or just correctly stated that his was the worst debut in living memory?
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Id much rather Green be given a run out from the start than Adomah who looks finished.
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Yes, Adomah back in is a strange one, although he does at least provide a bit of cover on his side. Can't help but feel that El Ghazi and Adomah is a monumentally ineffective wing attack at the moment though.
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Ramsey on bench ooooooh
Good to see
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Come on the Villa starting 11! 3 points please! We need to use the momentum of coming back vs sheff utd. UTV
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Ramsey? Arsenal chucked him already after he said he was off to Juve in the summer? A better loan than Fer, surely
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Win please.
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To be fair, we did see him play 20 minutes at Wigan, after 3 games in 18 months and in a desperate team performance, so naturally we should write him off.
Has anybody written him off? Or just correctly stated that his was the worst debut in living memory?
Obviously didn't see Ugo Ehigou's debut against Norwich..
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To be fair, we did see him play 20 minutes at Wigan, after 3 games in 18 months and in a desperate team performance, so naturally we should write him off.
Has anybody written him off? Or just correctly stated that his was the worst debut in living memory?
Obviously didn't see Ugo Ehigou's debut against Norwich..
Fuck my old boots. Did you see Barry take the penalty, or did you know that there's a French band called Aston Villa?
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Presume that Tom Carroll is going to spend his time here much as he spent his time at Swansea on the treatment table, thank god it is only a loan!
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To be fair, we did see him play 20 minutes at Wigan, after 3 games in 18 months and in a desperate team performance, so naturally we should write him off.
Has anybody written him off? Or just correctly stated that his was the worst debut in living memory?
Obviously didn't see Ugo Ehigou's debut against Norwich..
Errr...
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To be fair, we did see him play 20 minutes at Wigan, after 3 games in 18 months and in a desperate team performance, so naturally we should write him off.
Has anybody written him off? Or just correctly stated that his was the worst debut in living memory?
Obviously didn't see Ugo Ehigou's debut against Norwich..
It.wasn’t.his.debut
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Ok..one of his first games..I was there..it was a shocker
How about giving the lad a chance before we hang him.
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To be fair, we did see him play 20 minutes at Wigan, after 3 games in 18 months and in a desperate team performance, so naturally we should write him off.
Has anybody written him off? Or just correctly stated that his was the worst debut in living memory?
You didnt mention his debut. You made an odd sort of mouse noise, which it seems reasonable to interpret as lack of confidence in his selection, based on a really small sample size.
How about a post like this.....
Thank f**k Dean has seen what we all see, that Taylor is at best a liability, and he's trying something else. Good Luck Kortney, show us what you're really made of. Come on Villa....
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Good to see Jacob Ramsey on the bench, the B'ham Mail calling him the 'Wonderkid', nice of them to put pressure on a 17 year old.
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Yes, Adomah back in is a strange one, although he does at least provide a bit of cover on his side. Can't help but feel that El Ghazi and Adomah is a monumentally ineffective wing attack at the moment though.
Before the European Cup Final, you'd have been the one saying ...."That Morley to Withe axis never looks good, and I wish we'd got some goalkeeping experience on the bench, that could cost us big style".
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Good to see Jacob Ramsey on the bench, the B'ham Mail calling him the 'Wonderkid', nice of them to put pressure on a 17 year old.
He is pretty decent.
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Yes, Adomah back in is a strange one, although he does at least provide a bit of cover on his side. Can't help but feel that El Ghazi and Adomah is a monumentally ineffective wing attack at the moment though.
Before the European Cup Final, you'd have been the one saying ...."That Morley to Withe axis never looks good, and I wish we'd got some goalkeeping experience on the bench, that could cost us big style".
Yes comparing Morley and Withe to El Ghazi and Adomah is a perfectly valid comparison and I feel suitably chastised.
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Ramsey on the bench is a surprise but I really like the look of him, hope he gets on.
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Yes, Adomah back in is a strange one, although he does at least provide a bit of cover on his side. Can't help but feel that El Ghazi and Adomah is a monumentally ineffective wing attack at the moment though.
Before the European Cup Final, you'd have been the one saying ...."That Morley to Withe axis never looks good, and I wish we'd got some goalkeeping experience on the bench, that could cost us big style".
Yes comparing Morley and Withe to El Ghazi and Adomah is a perfectly valid comparison and I feel suitably chastised.
It's getting like L6
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To be fair, we did see him play 20 minutes at Wigan, after 3 games in 18 months and in a desperate team performance, so naturally we should write him off.
Has anybody written him off? Or just correctly stated that his was the worst debut in living memory?
You didnt mention his debut. You made an odd sort of mouse noise, which it seems reasonable to interpret as lack of confidence in his selection, based on a really small sample size.
How about a post like this.....
Thank f**k Dean has seen what we all see, that Taylor is at best a liability, and he's trying something else. Good Luck Kortney, show us what you're really made of. Come on Villa....
I'd be interested to hear which of our selection options at left back wouldn't have elicited an odd sort of mouse noise.
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Yes, Adomah back in is a strange one, although he does at least provide a bit of cover on his side. Can't help but feel that El Ghazi and Adomah is a monumentally ineffective wing attack at the moment though.
Before the European Cup Final, you'd have been the one saying ...."That Morley to Withe axis never looks good, and I wish we'd got some goalkeeping experience on the bench, that could cost us big style".
Yes comparing Morley and Withe to El Ghazi and Adomah is a perfectly valid comparison and I feel suitably chastised.
Was commenting on your seeming inability to see anything positive. Sometimes coming on here before the game just saps my enthusiasm. Who did you want to see? Kodjia again? Green who Dean has said isnt fit to be a starter?
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To be fair, we did see him play 20 minutes at Wigan, after 3 games in 18 months and in a desperate team performance, so naturally we should write him off.
Has anybody written him off? Or just correctly stated that his was the worst debut in living memory?
You didnt mention his debut. You made an odd sort of mouse noise, which it seems reasonable to interpret as lack of confidence in his selection, based on a really small sample size.
How about a post like this.....
Thank f**k Dean has seen what we all see, that Taylor is at best a liability, and he's trying something else. Good Luck Kortney, show us what you're really made of. Come on Villa....
I'd be interested to hear which of our selection options at left back wouldn't have elicited an odd sort of mouse noise.
Yep, this was my point....
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To be fair, we did see him play 20 minutes at Wigan, after 3 games in 18 months and in a desperate team performance, so naturally we should write him off.
Has anybody written him off? Or just correctly stated that his was the worst debut in living memory?
You didnt mention his debut. You made an odd sort of mouse noise, which it seems reasonable to interpret as lack of confidence in his selection, based on a really small sample size.
How about a post like this.....
Thank f**k Dean has seen what we all see, that Taylor is at best a liability, and he's trying something else. Good Luck Kortney, show us what you're really made of. Come on Villa....
I'd be interested to hear which of our selection options at left back wouldn't have elicited an odd sort of mouse noise.
Yep, this was my point....
So you think they're all shit? How very positive of you. Twat.
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Got an uneasy feeling about this one. It's got a lot of the ingredients for us to be rubbish - Brentford, live on SKY, immobile looking team selection. Hopefully build on the last ten minutes on Friday and make a quick start.
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Can't we all just enjoy the match please?
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Yes, Adomah back in is a strange one, although he does at least provide a bit of cover on his side. Can't help but feel that El Ghazi and Adomah is a monumentally ineffective wing attack at the moment though.
Before the European Cup Final, you'd have been the one saying ...."That Morley to Withe axis never looks good, and I wish we'd got some goalkeeping experience on the bench, that could cost us big style".
Yes comparing Morley and Withe to El Ghazi and Adomah is a perfectly valid comparison and I feel suitably chastised.
Was commenting on your seeming inability to see anything positive. Sometimes coming on here before the game just saps my enthusiasm. Who did you want to see? Kodjia again? Green who Dean has said isnt fit to be a starter?
If this saps your energy, don't go on Twitter!
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Unfortunately the inescapable facts of our last ten years demonstrate if you fear the worst you will not be disappointed.
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Can't we all just enjoy the match please?
Sorry Legion.
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Ramsey was the kid who finished off that lovely tiki-taka move a few weeks ago for the U23's wasn't it?
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Why isn't Green starting?? His confidence will be up after that equaliser. We just don't like giving the youngsters a chance do we?
Tom Carroll signing is a waste of time.
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Oh fucking great, same ref from our game at Albion.
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To be fair, we did see him play 20 minutes at Wigan, after 3 games in 18 months and in a desperate team performance, so naturally we should write him off.
Has anybody written him off? Or just correctly stated that his was the worst debut in living memory?
You didnt mention his debut. You made an odd sort of mouse noise, which it seems reasonable to interpret as lack of confidence in his selection, based on a really small sample size.
How about a post like this.....
Thank f**k Dean has seen what we all see, that Taylor is at best a liability, and he's trying something else. Good Luck Kortney, show us what you're really made of. Come on Villa....
I'd be interested to hear which of our selection options at left back wouldn't have elicited an odd sort of mouse noise.
Yep, this was my point....
So you think they're all shit? How very positive of you. Twat.
How did you interpret that in the way you did?
I think taylor is shit. You seemed to question Hause's selection. Who did you want?
I'm not prepared to dismiss Hause's potential on a small cameo, you seem to be.
But you question my positivity and I'm a twat?
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My stream's already about 90 seconds behind
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Yes, Adomah back in is a strange one, although he does at least provide a bit of cover on his side. Can't help but feel that El Ghazi and Adomah is a monumentally ineffective wing attack at the moment though.
Before the European Cup Final, you'd have been the one saying ...."That Morley to Withe axis never looks good, and I wish we'd got some goalkeeping experience on the bench, that could cost us big style".
Yes comparing Morley and Withe to El Ghazi and Adomah is a perfectly valid comparison and I feel suitably chastised.
Giggle
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Don't know anything about the young lad on the bench, what position does he play?
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Don't know anything about the young lad on the bench, what position does he play?
Probably shit though, eh?
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Can't we all just enjoy the match please?
That would be a nice change.
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I thought half term was next week?
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My prediction: shite.
Prove me wrong you twats.
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C'mon lads, the season starts tonight :p
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Derby already winning at Ipswich. Thanks a lot Lambert you bellend.
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Camera angle and shirts makes this look like the twilight zone
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Sigh, given away by Hutton, leading to a decent attempt for them. Good stop by Kalinic.
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Have we got out of our own half yet?
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anybody showing the match?? would appreciate a link if so?? #boredinsnowdonia
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I thought half term was next week?
Not in Bedfordshire
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Camera angle and shirts makes this look like the twilight zone
I hate games like this. The backs of their shirts are too similar to the front of ours, and both teams are in dark shorts and socks. Not enough contrast I reckon.
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It kicked off five minutes ago, Villa.
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The only thing I am taking as a positive so far is that for very little money we could look like this in a couple of years.
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Have we touched the bloody ball yet?
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We have a horse at lb?
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Have we touched the bloody ball yet?
Not very often.
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Sloppy play as usual. Giving the ball away. Not impressed...
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El Ghazi has got decent close control and speed, but his decision making is terrible.
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Do we possess a midfield at all?!?
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Chasing shadows.
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An inauspicious start, it must be said.
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Camera angle and shirts makes this look like the twilight zone
I hate games like this. The backs of their shirts are too similar to the front of ours, and both teams are in dark shorts and socks. Not enough contrast I reckon.
Ans yet some games the away team wears their change colours with no apparent clash of colours
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Shit start. Hutton putting in his standard garbage display so far.
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Steve Bruce really did collect a bunch of fucking duffers
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Our players are aware its kicked off right? Cuz they looking like they dont
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Horrible kit
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All I can tell so far is that Whelan has watched lots of players go past him. Oh and Hutton is continuing to confirm he is fucking wank
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75% possession to Brentford so far.
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It feels like it's been a long night already.......
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75% possession to Brentford so far.
Is that all it looks like more!
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They're playing 3x the speed we are!
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75% possession to Brentford so far.
Their goal is coming. We've all seen this movie before
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Press the fucking ball.
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Can't we all just enjoy the match please?
Or not, as things are going at the moment.
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Brentford look so comfy on the ball. We are being shat on.
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They're playing 3x the speed we are!
They have young quick players, except a couple of lads we have a bunch of has beens or fucking pensioners
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Why are we continually starting games so badly under Smith? Every week it's the same, he says they've trained well, then the game comes along and we're utter shite.
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Why oh why do we always start so bloody bad,hardly touched the ball have we?
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Hause looks better
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Hourihane gets caught ball watching so often - reacts after the man he should be marking just goes past him
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Why are we continually starting games so badly under Smith? Every week it's the same, he says they've trained well, then the game comes along and we're utter shite.
It's the players Risso. It doesn't matter what he shows them or how they train they simply cannot do it. They are too old, too slow and too shit to carry out those instructions. And if you want proof then watch how Brentford play. That is Dean Smith's team just as much as ours is Steve Bruce's.
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Really looking forward to the time Hourihane receives and plays the ball while looking in the right fucking direction.
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Without Jack teams have no fear with us
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They are finding so much space all,over the pitch, whereas we look horribly rushed every time we have the ball.
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73% domination. It can only lead to one conclusion
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You don't want Horrorshow anywhere near our box. He can't tackle and gives away stupid free kicks in dangerous positions all the time.
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Holographic midfield again.
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Hairy Nan is having his customary terrible game again.
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We are so bloody poor.
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Lots of giving the ball away so far. Wee look poor again
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speed of thought in this team is sadly lacking.
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Shame. Hope it’s nothing trivial.
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Well done Tommy, filth!
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I know it’s too early to start moaning, but this is yet another poor start to the game from us.
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Good lad Tommy.
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Derby winning
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No 14...
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We neede this break. 20 mins in and we haven’t put two passes together. Come on sort it fucking out!
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Everyone knows that if they come out high tempo and press we can't handle it, that's why we're shit early in the game so often.
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Horse is a disaster in waiting
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Maybe it is just my eyes but there appears to be a bit of a kit clash. Weren't there rules a while back that basically it had to be a combination of light and dark team kits to make them easier to distinguish from each other? And no, I am not going back as far as the old days of black and white TV's.
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Fucking hell Albert.
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Fucking hell Albert.
Yep, lost it and didn’t even bother chasing back
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Maybe it is just my eyes but there appears to be a bit of a kit clash. Weren't there rules a while back that basically it had to be a combination of light and dark team kits to make them easier to distinguish from each other? And no, I am not going back as far as the old days of black and white TV's.
I said the same earlier Damo. Really annoying set of kits. Although Brentford don't make it easy with stripes on the front and a solid colour on the back.
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The term 6's and 7's was created just for nights like this
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We did a corner.
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Corner!
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Adomah, why??
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All the talk about how the end of the Sheffield United game would spur us on, and we've spent 20 minutes completely camped in our half.
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Great bit of defending then Hause.
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I like the personnel in our back four, they just need to learn to play as a unit
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I think I’d rather see Taylor 😂
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Horse is a disaster in waiting
He was good in the Full Monty
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Hause is like fucking bambi!
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All the talk about how the end of the Sheffield United game would spur us on, and we've spent 20 minutes completely camped in our half.
Yep, doesn't like it was much of a springboard so far. Usual shite.
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Yet again we are utter shit
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Cart Horse
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Is Tammy playing ? 22 minutes in and he has not been mentioned
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Getting pissed on all over the park by Brentford yet again.
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I thought Brentford had a decent shout for a penalty against our keeper then. A decision goes our way for once.
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Norwich 2-0 down to Preston. Expect them to win 3-2 in injury time
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Marking and closing down is non-existent. Rubbish!
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Honestly, this is fuckin shit.
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They could be 3 up easily.
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in the past the match threads on here have sometimes been very negative when I’ve thought we were doing ok
tonight we are truly shite with a capital S
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I thought Brentford had a decent shout for a penalty against our keeper then. A decision goes our way for once.
Nah, not a penalty
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This side is sooooooo slow.
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It’s like we’re on the beach already.
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Its It's been all Brentford, hasn't it?
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Adomah and El Khazi completely and utterly ineffective again.
I wish we’d play with 1 winger and 2 forwards.
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Tammy must be kicking himself daily that he stayed put with this rabble.
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The Brucification process is complete.
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Yet again, Hourihane's man 5 yards ahead of him.
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Hause is a sunday league pub player surely??? Adomah's pace has completely gone, hes shot.
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The midfield doesn't and hasn't worked since Jack got injured. Why not make it a 4? We watch it every game, the personel changes but it's stiil shit.
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It’s like we’re on the beach already.
We look like we're running through the Weston Super Mare mud.
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Have we actually got a midfield other than McGinn?
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Are we playing Man City?
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It’s gonna click in a minute, you’ll see..
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Ooh effort El Ghazi. Nice one.
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Finally a bit of decent play.
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I fucking like Mings
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We always have 3-4 lazy players starting each game. Ghasi, AA, 14 today
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It's the midfield or lack of it.
Hause looks a real basic player at left back won't be going forward much seems no pace.
Albert stopped running in that counter attack to the corner
Shocking so far !!
Ooh El ghazi
And Good chance from corners I think
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A shot!!
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better. Good shot Anwar
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That's the best bit of play I've seen us do tonight. Come on Villa.
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Really poor so far.
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This side is sooooooo slow.
What, so a team with 3 centre backs and Glenn Whelan isn’t moving the ball like Brazil?
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This is awful.
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You just want to shake some life into the fuckers
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Not at all impressed with Hause so far.
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1 2 passes, lump to other team. Repeat until goal
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McGinn is being dragged down by the shit around him.
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El Ghazi and Adomah are both lazy ******.
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Conor Hourihane a central midfielder has had 11 touches. Fucking hell.
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Well a team Smith created is all over the one Bruce did, no surprise.
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Piss-poor thus far ...
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McGinn is being dragged down by the shit around him.
He is, a number of poor passes tonight. Why Smith persists with this formation is beyond me.
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What an absolutely shit decision that was by the ref, giving the foul against Abraham.
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Whoreyhands has had the joint fewest touches in the match. For a midfielder that is unacceptable.
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Passing is awful. Even McGinn is giving it away.
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Maupay is always involved
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Whoreyhands has had the joint fewest touches in the match. For a midfielder that is unacceptable.
When he gets it he just passes it on, he doesn't carry it a fucking yard.
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Leeds 2-0 Swansea
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This is not on AVTV I see. Good!
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Maupay is always involved
Snidey little bugger. Would be a great signing.
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I think this is Villa now.
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Their whole team is always involved - they're the only ones with the ball.
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To be fair, we did see him play 20 minutes at Wigan, after 3 games in 18 months and in a desperate team performance, so naturally we should write him off.
Has anybody written him off? Or just correctly stated that his was the worst debut in living memory?
Obviously didn't see Ugo Ehigou's debut against Norwich..
Fuck my old boots. Did you see Barry take the penalty, or did you know that there's a French band called Aston Villa?
Djemba Djemba against Arsenal? So bad they named him twice
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Hause looks like he's wading through treacle. A whippet he is not.
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I’ve thought the same about McGinn for a few games now. Misplaced passes and heavy touches. Worrying.
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Put Green and Kodjia on!
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No real desire to keep them penned in their own half and pressure. May as well have no midfield, Hourihane just jogs back without a care in the world.
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It's coming gents. And I don't mean a goal to the blokes in navy blue, black, claret or whatever the fuck we have on tonight
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No rush lads, take your time....
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Fuck me we give possesion away so, so easily.
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Must have worked on that corner routine all week.
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Their whole team is always involved - they're the only ones with the ball.
Main difference is the word Team...
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We've bossed the last minute or so.
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Jesus, our passing. Woeful.
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Back to normal now.
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Are we playing Man City?
I thought is was Barcelona
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Im starting to dislike some of our lot. A few of them really do not look like they want to put the effort in.
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No14 throwing his arms up, in an area the ball would never be. Running in areas where nothing will happen
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Has Adomah been substituted?
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Hause looks like he's wading through treacle. A whippet he is not.
However, he doesn't look like a complete liability. Neil Taylor he is not.
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Seriously though is there anything about this game (line up, tactics, balance of play) that would look out of place under Bruce?
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Keeley looks a big slow ponderous unit. He’s gonna fit in a treat.
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Every single player is just utterly incapable of finding another Villa player.
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Hutton you fucking hopeless ******
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Hutton booked.
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Whelan's having a decent game. Hologram is avoiding any involvement in the game with his usual aplomb
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That was embarrassing by the Brentford player
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I shouted for Hutton to be booked then for fucks sake.
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What I wouldn't give for Alan Wright in his little, balding pomp.
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Fucking hell Albert so lightweight
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Comedy throw in routine there. Brilliant.
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Whelan easily our best player tonight. Shame he won't be able to stand, let alone play football, by Saturday.
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Hutton badly caught out of position once again
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Adomah's touch :(
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Stupid by Hutton but I reckon Canos should've gone in the book for the pantomime shit a minute or so before, cheating prick.
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Alan Hutton! Why? Just why?
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That was embarrassing by the Brentford player
Should have been booked for giving it the full Swan Lake.
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I think I am witnessing a worse left back than Taylor
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Whelan easily our best player tonight. Shame he won't be able to stand, let alone play football, by Saturday.
With a display like this on Saturday we are going to get Tescobagged.
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Adomah that was shit
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What a miss Albert.
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We've just witnessed the worse throw in routine...A kind of Laurel and Hardy soundclash with the chuckle brothers
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Fuck off!!!
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Thought we had scored 😥
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Nooooo, Albert....ffs
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Albert should have put that away.
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Smith comes across to me as a very stubborn manager .He knew what to expect tonight and yet has approached the game the same as he does every game .Instead of playing two ineffective wingers why not put a extra midfielder in
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That throw in just typifies the performance...Hologram doesn't move for the throw, trots off forward then Hutton bounces the ball of Whelans head into touch. Pathetic.
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They're a niggly little club with fans to match. The Brentford wankfest from the commentators is really pissing me off. Hause looks shocking in possession.
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Fuck this, I’m having a tot at half time...on a school night as well.
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We do look far more solid.
We'll lose 3-0 in the 2nd half now I've said that.
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Adomah ffs!
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Smith comes across to me as a very stubborn manager .He knew what to expect tonight and yet has approached the game the same as he does every game .Instead of playing two ineffective wingers why not put a extra midfielder in
Absolutely, you can't watch a half like this and not make a change for the second half. Bet he doesn't.
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Stop saying with the quality Villa have like we're United under Mourinho....we have some right stinky turds.
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Theres no point trying to pass our way out of defence through left back.
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We do look far more solid at the back. But that counts for zero if we can’t get the ball up the pitch.
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Smith comes across to me as a very stubborn manager .He knew what to expect tonight and yet has approached the game the same as he does every game .Instead of playing two ineffective wingers why not put a extra midfielder in
Yes baffling given the rumours of what a great tactition he is
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Where do we keep getting this never ending succession of shit left backs from?
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Theres no point trying to pass our way out of defence through left back.
"...at any point in the last 20 years"
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As much as i love him McGinn has been caught on the ball far too often.
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Just another shit half of football. Different manager same fucking bollocks
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What were the chances of Hourihane going into that 50-50
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Hourihane ducking a 50/50? Well, I’ve seen everything now.
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Fucking shite
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What were the chances of Hourihane going into that 50-50
33.3 recurring.
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Theres no point trying to pass our way out of defence through left back.
"...at any point in the last 20 years"
Ugh. Too true.
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Thank fuck for HT
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I’d say 0.00 recurring.
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The only good thing about that half is that we somehow didn’t concede. What will he do now?
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What were the chances of Hourihane going into that 50-50
A bit less than 50-50 andy. 99-1 more like, the bloody soft arse.
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We do look far more solid at the back. But that counts for zero if we can’t get the ball up the pitch.
And we ping pong in defense until left back balls it up
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On a positive note, it looks like we're slowly dragging them down to our level.
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Absolute green willy. Hopeless.
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First things first - we need a footballer to play left back.
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Theres no point trying to pass our way out of defence through left back.
"...at any point in the last 20 years"
Ugh. Too true.
Bouma was reliable. Other than that we literally have had such poor performance out of that position for a very long time.
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We're not very good are we?
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I see we’re playing with 10 men again tonight. Hourihane a passenger YET AGAIN! Summed up by that return ball from the corner - put a bloody foot in, you useless piece of skin! 🤬
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Poor stuff, positive is that we’re not losing. Our level is so low.
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The only good thing about that half is that we somehow didn’t concede. What will he do now?
Jedinak for Whelan on 70 minutes, Green for Adomah on 75. Bet on it.
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I’d say 0.00 recurring.
Complex numbers do exist
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Hourihane and Adomah mastering that predator cloaking technology. I can't see either of them, it's very impressive.
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Hause is doing his very best so far of eliminating himself from any chance of a permanent move.
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Hourihane has to be the most pointless player I’ve ever seen.
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The only good thing about that half is that we somehow didn’t concede. What will he do now?
Jedinak for Whelan on 70 minutes, Green for Adomah on 75. Bet on it.
Nah. It will be Jedinak for McGinn. Whelan had that moment of inspiration last game that will ensure he gets the next 10 starts and most of them full games.
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On a positive note, it looks like we're slowly dragging them down to our level.
I like your line of thinking
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Not very good.
Defence do look better, but Hause looks more like a centre back than a left back. Would consider swapping him and Mings.
Midfield is shockingly poor, and the Wingers are lazy.
Still, we are not losing and despite dominating Brentford have not really looked like scoring. Figers crossed we have a better second half.
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Well that was turgid as per...
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Hourihane and Adomah mastering that predator cloaking technology. I can't see either of them, it's very impressive.
👏👏👏👏
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The only good thing about that half is that we somehow didn’t concede. What will he do now?
Somehow doesn't come into it. These are as bad as us. Desperately poor game.
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We have got too many slow, unmotivated players. We are a million miles off play off standard.
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Hause is doing his very best so far of eliminating himself from any chance of a permanent move.
Isn't he a CB though? Would like to see him play some games there before totally writing him off. Another 5 games and play offs will be out of reach so we will have dead games to do this.
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Hause has 10 England U21 caps...??
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So, what's everyone doing for snacks? Anyone got any good biscuits?
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That was a load of twonk. Off to do the packing up.
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Too many jogging around rather some intensity.
Twice on counters I saw Albert and Conor barely breaking forward to join attack
Last season Adomah would have buried it.
I kinda wish Brentford scored only coz it may have kicked villa up the backside to get going
Takes Hutton to drive forward every so often as no one getting going
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Hourihane ducking a 50/50? Well, I’ve seen everything now.
I think you've nailed the problem with Hologram with that comment. He's a total bottler. Runs around looking interested while managing to avoid anything resembling a physical challenge.f he didn't take all the free kicks and corners you wouldn't know he was playing. He's the complete opposite of John McGinn
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As bad a half as I've seen all season. Where is the Smith brand of football? Aimless punts to a lone forward? Jockeying wank which concedes vast areas of the pitch
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The Hutton Whelan throw in routine summed us up entirely.
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So, what's everyone doing for snacks? Anyone got any good biscuits?
Hobnobs?
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We have got too many slow, unmotivated players. We are a million miles off play off standard.
Spot on. No real effort.
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A dismal, wretched first half performance yet we still had the best chance.
It must get better Shirley?
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Hause has 10 England U21 caps...??
I only wish I could had his careers teacher.
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Not very good.
Defence do look better, but Hause looks more like a centre back than a left back. Would consider swapping him and Mings.
Midfield is shockingly poor, and the Wingers are lazy.
Still, we are not losing and despite dominating Brentford have not really looked like scoring. Figers crossed we have a better second half.
we settled abit and looked like some were trying to press , but they have to do it together
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Spectaculary dreadful.
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Yes to be fair. We've created the only decent opportunity of the game.
But with McGinn's decision making way off, our midfield slow off the ball, deep, slow to move the ball on and the every anonymous Hourihane and Adomah, it's more by luck than design.
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Hause is doing his very best so far of eliminating himself from any chance of a permanent move.
Isn't he a CB though? Would like to see him play some games there before totally writing him off. Another 5 games and play offs will be out of reach so we will have dead games to do this.
He was meant to be able to do both with CB being his primary position. He can't bloody control a football, has trouble with balance and is being caught out of position. I get that there might be some improvement on those fronts at CB but the drop off at LB shouldn't be that steep.
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Utter garbage...can't wait for our good ten minutes* in the second half.
*we used to have a good half, now due to inflation it's only ten minutes.
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So, what's everyone doing for snacks? Anyone got any good biscuits?
Hobnobs?
Lovely. I've got penguin bars. Serious stuff.
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Is this the worst Villa midfield ever?
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A dismal, wretched first half performance yet we still had the best chance.
It must get better Shirley?
I thnk Brentford are suspect at the back if you attack them , but that involves us pasing to each other up the field
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Adomah has gone around a year without scoring,Green has scored 5 for Pompey and one for us in about 12 games so far this year so of course Smith selects Adomah .
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Blimey - no sign of a United comeback boost so far. Beyond shite.
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Hourihane has to be the most pointless player I’ve ever seen.
The polar opposite of Westwood who was the most 'pointing' player I've ever seen.
Pointy birds
Pointy pointy
Anoint my head
Anointy nointy
John Lillison (England's most famous one armed poet)
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Shite, I blame Risso.
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Where t.f. Is grealish
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Rosenoirs analysis of the way they are set up was superb.. Hopefully we have someone passing his comments to the dressing room.
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Hourihane has to be the most pointless player I’ve ever seen.
The polar opposite of Westwood who was the most 'pointing' player I've ever seen.
Pointy birds
Pointy pointy
Anoint my head
Anointy nointy
John Lillison (England's most famous one armed poet)
Agree re Westwood, but he has had the last laugh
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Is this the worst Villa midfield ever?
possibly, although we’ve had a few contenders recently, and the mid-80’s also offers a few candidates.
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Personally I just thought that was a shit half of football all round. They kept a lot of possession without really doing much with it, we were so deep that we had no options to play the ball out. That said we had the best chance and Adomah will be gutted he missed it. We've been awful going forward though and it'd have been daylight robbery had he put it away.
We need pace and energy in there to counteract teams that try to blitz us or this type of performance will keep happening because it's just too easy for teams to do to us.
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I thought half term was next week?
Replying now because I've been watching the game.
I havent had a half term for nearly 40 years.
This thread still saps my enthusiasm.
We've had the two best chances.
We're still going to win this. Ignore the Sky "We hate Villa, plucky underdogs who stole the poor kids manager are going to lose, serves them right" shit.
Beat these fuckers. Press higher , they're shit.
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Who was Mings having a go at early on? I know it could have been any one of 9 players before anybody answers.
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I'm going to start a bring back Bruce petition. Sort this shit out Dean.
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Same shit, different shirts.
I do not believe Ddomah and Holigram are the best options from the players at his disposal.
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Is this the worst Villa midfield ever?
Yes
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Is this the worst Villa midfield ever?
Oh do fuck off
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Green will be on after an hour surely.
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I thought half term was next week?
Replying now because I've been watching the game.
I havent had a half term for nearly 40 years.
This thread still saps my enthusiasm.
We've had the two best chances.
We're still going to win this. Ignore the Sky "We hate Villa, plucky underdogs who stole the poor kids manager are going to lose, serves them right" shit.
Beat these fuckers. Press higher , they're shit.
I bet you were moaning it was 0-0 after 45 minutes at Rotterdam.
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Same shit, different shirts.
I do not believe Ddomah and Holigram are the best options from the players at his disposal.
Go on then......pick your team
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It does beg the question, what exactly the fuck goes on in training ?
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This is every bit as bad as Bruce at his worse, and it has been for weeks now.
We struggle to string two passes together, week after week. I just can't see how this utter horseshit gets better, I'm afraid, it's so far from being acceptable.
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I'm going to start a bring back Bruce petition. Sort this shit out Dean.
Well I'm going to start a bring back Lambert petition.
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I thought half term was next week?
Replying now because I've been watching the game.
I havent had a half term for nearly 40 years.
This thread still saps my enthusiasm.
We've had the two best chances.
We're still going to win this. Ignore the Sky "We hate Villa, plucky underdogs who stole the poor kids manager are going to lose, serves them right" shit.
Beat these fuckers. Press higher , they're shit.
I bet you were moaning it was 0-0 after 45 minutes at Rotterdam.
No....but I wasnt picking holes in our team and conceding defeat
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Hourihane ducking a 50/50? Well, I’ve seen everything now.
I think you've nailed the problem with Hologram with that comment. He's a total bottler. Runs around looking interested while managing to avoid anything resembling a physical challenge.f he didn't take all the free kicks and corners you wouldn't know he was playing. He's the complete opposite of John McGinn
If ever there was a time when it would pay to show some commitment that was it. The box was packed with villa players players and he’d have had a great angle.
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Come on Dean be brave go 3 at the back and get another midfielder on
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Back on the WM wagon after my recent lapse so I've been dipping into this thread to see what's going on. I see we're repeating the first 80 minutes of last Friday...
Hopefully, the second half will be better.
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I'm going to start a bring back Bruce petition. Sort this shit out Dean.
Well I'm going to start a bring back Lambert petition.
I’m going to start a bring back Sherw....sorry, going too far now.
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Same shit, different shirts.
I do not believe Ddomah and Holigram are the best options from the players at his disposal.
Go on then......pick your team
Oh dear.
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Started well.
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Jesus. Great start to the second half.
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Already in this half we've seen three balls which were basically just lashed in generally the right direction by our players.
The basics are not even there.
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Wonderful pinged pass from Elphick there.
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Right. Come on Villa.
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Well that doesn’t bode well. Come fucking on!!!
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Ping ping at the back and give them the ball. Jesus...
Not smiths fault players are sloppy
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To be fair to him, the hologram has an incredible talent to play in midfield but have such little influence.
He's probably due one of his great free kicks soon to remind us how good he is.
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Second best in yet another game.
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Is this the worst Villa midfield ever?
Oh do fuck off
Just enjoy the game, please...
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Same shit, different shirts.
I do not believe Ddomah and Holigram are the best options from the players at his disposal.
Go on then......pick your team
Oh dear.
What does that mean?
Who did you want to see him pick?
You cant just say what you did without saying who you wanted
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Even when the ball does get as far up the field to find Tammy, he is very, very isolated.
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Is this the worst Villa midfield ever?
Oh do fuck off
Just enjoy the game, please...
You are asking a lot....
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Is this the worst Villa midfield ever?
Oh do fuck off
Just enjoy the game, please...
Apologies for the swearing. This thread boils my piss though.
Watching the game now , so no more posts till after. Hoping for a villa win, I know we all are
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Stop giving the ball away!!!!
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If we had an U21 midfielder who turned in the sort of performances Hourihane has been dialling in, he’d have been packed off to Dagenham on loan ages ago.
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Playing better now
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Unlucky McGinn.
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To be fair to him, the hologram has an incredible talent to play in midfield but have such little influence.
He's probably due one of his great free kicks soon to remind us how good he is.
He should be working for MI5, not playing for us.
Actually, maybe he is?
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El Khazi does everything right up until the final ball. Shite.
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Just in. I take it we have been the usual rabble?
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Shit, El Ghazi had done the hard bit
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Playing better now
Yea brief 5 mins of pressing
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Just in. I take it we have been the usual rabble?
In a nutshell.
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Villaesque levels of stupidity from the Brentford forward, there.
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Just in. I take it we have been the usual rabble?
Yep. Awful.
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El Khazi does everything right up until the final ball. Shite.
His crossing generally is very poor.
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How many times has one of our players taken the ball past one of their players this game?
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Let off again.
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Yikes.
Okay, one big miss all.
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El khazi robbed easily for the umpteenth time
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El Khazi again.
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Super Paul's Rural Army have equalised against Derby. Let's take advantage...
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So lightweight in the challenge. Easily pushed off the ball. No chance of the play-offs - forget it, we're not good enough.
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Gifting them the ball to set them up for a chance. I can’t believe this is the same team that tore apart Derby and Boro, minus a couple of injuries
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If ypu ever wanted a vision of what Maupay would look like once we'd bought him, there it was.
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Dear lord.
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Jesus fuck.
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Haysus - we are pegged down
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Second best in yet another game.
On a positive, in 50 years I've never seen a game where we have dropped below second.
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2 passes and we give them the ball
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Their player just fucking walzed past Hourihane in that passage of play. He really is a wanker.
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Holy Guacamole
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That’s 3 let offs
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Cunning play by Hot Lips to chicken out of the tackle safe in the knowledge that they would fuck it up.
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Sub the fucker
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Fuck me. How are we still level?
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El Khazi might be shit but that wasn’t a penalty.
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El Ghazi is woeful
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Elmo for Adomah.
Yeah, reckon that'll fix it.
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He needs to use these subs to change the formation, this doesn't work. Hasn't for weeks.
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Good save. We seem determined to lose this
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Shambolic. Chasing shadows ...
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We should really be getting stuffed here but for better finishing by them.
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Bringing Elmo on before Kodja oh dear
Come on green
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We are utter, utter shit
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We got Whelen. No worries
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El Ghazi looked like he just didn't fancy playing any more.
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Positive changes.
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El Ghazi looked like he just didn't fancy playing any more.
My take too
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Not sure Sawyers would have improved us. Maupy and Watkins both look decent though.
Pleased with that substitution, El Ghazi has been lazy and off form.
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Albert and El Ghazi off. Morley and Withe unavailable so we have to make do with Green and Elmo.
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Even Tammy is off
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El Ghazi looked like he just didn't fancy playing any more.
Ditto Kodja the last game
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Bringing Elmo on before Kodja oh dear
Come on green
After Fridays performance, I ain’t surprised.
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Tammy having a stinker.
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El Ghazi looked like he just didn't fancy playing any more.
Injured according to the beeb
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I just realised Whelan is on the pitch.
I've only watched the second half, but genuinely not noticed him till now.
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Brentford always play good football against us maybe we should go after their manager
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El Ghazi looked like he just didn't fancy playing any more.
Injured according to the beeb
Bruised his vagina, the wanker.
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El Ghazi looked like he just didn't fancy playing any more.
Injured according to the beeb
Bruised his vagina, the wanker.
Ha !
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Reckon in about 15 mins Kodja on for Hause and Elmo drop to full back
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Has Smith come for a 0-0?
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Hourihane nearly made a tackle then.
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Hourihane nearly made a tackle then.
You sure it wasn’t Hause?
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Hourihane nearly made a tackle then.
Lost count of the number of tackles he has lost tonight.
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Ffs just for a second I thought the signal was gonna go.
Then it came back 😢
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Hourihane nearly made a tackle then.
Lost count of the number of tackles he has lost tonight.
To be fair, he hasn’t lost many.
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Prays for 0-0.
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Brentford look like a team full of lively, creative, energetic players.
We look like a bunch of old blokes from the local boozer having a go at it.
Just so fucking dreadful.
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I dream of villa playing football like Brentford do
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Brentford look like a team full of lively, creative, energetic players.
We look like a bunch of old blokes from the local boozer having a go at it.
Just so fucking dreadful.
It’s gone full circle so quickly.
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I dream of villa playing football like Brentford do
For about five games we did do!
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I dream of Jeannie
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Hourihane nearly made a tackle then.
Lost count of the number of tackles he has lost tonight.
He hasn't lost one. He hasn't made one either but that's splitting hairs.
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I dream of Villa playing football.
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I couldn't stand Bruceball but some of the recent performances, including this one, are worse if anything. There's a fair bit of hoofing going on. A lot of them don't seem interested in making an effort. I do wonder if maybe they just don't like Smith.
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****** Hourihane
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Nearly.
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You wankstain Hourihane.
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Fuck off
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Good run and pass from Elmo.
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I dream of villa playing football like Brentford do
Well let's hope so seeing as the bloke who helped create it is now with us. We are lumbered with dinosaur players and you can see what inventive coaching and player acquisition can look like. Smith needs to ensure he doesn't fall into the trap of having to buy players of a certain price or type because he now is at a bigger club with a bigger budget. Brentford is proof it can be done on a much smaller financial plan.
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Fuck off!!!! Fuck.
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Sleeping coach? We need a football coach! Bag of fucking shit!
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Hourihane HAD to do better there
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2 best chances of the night.
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Elmo sums up Aston Villa.
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I couldn't stand Bruceball but some of the recent performances, including this one, are worse if anything. There's a fair bit of hoofing going on. A lot of them don't seem interested in making an effort. I do wonder if maybe they just don't like Smith.
There have been many times I have not liked my bosses (apart from Dave, he's ace) but I have always done my job to the very best of my ability.
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That's a fucking pen. Here we go again.
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That is yet another penalty we haven't been given.
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Comical trying play out of defense
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That was superb goalkeeping.
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Finally some pressure.
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Looked like a penalty to me
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Not a pen for me. Tammy left his leg there looking for it.
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Minimal contact.
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No penalty.
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Penalty all day
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Pen all day.
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Commentator talking some amount of pish. "Yes he does catch him but it's not a penalty" because... reasons.
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Not a penalty for me -Abraham chose to fall over.
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Not a pen for me. Tammy left his leg there looking for it.
On first viewing I thought it was, but seeing the replays, I don't think it was.
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Just saw replay from a different angle - should have been given
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He's quite right to go down if someone makes contact with him in the area. Abraham's reaction is irrelevant. He gets kicked. Penalty.
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I couldn't stand Bruceball but some of the recent performances, including this one, are worse if anything. There's a fair bit of hoofing going on. A lot of them don't seem interested in making an effort. I do wonder if maybe they just don't like Smith.
There have been many times I have not liked my bosses (apart from Dave, he's ace) but I have always done my job to the very best of my ability.
Yes but you're not a footballer Leeg. They're a "special" breed and it's not unknown for them to the opposite.
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I don't think it was a pen, but the ref hasn't given him anything all game and a fair others have been fouls. The one on Green a little later was a definite foul though.
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He's quite right to go down if someone makes contact with him in the area. Abraham's reaction is irrelevant. He gets kicked. Penalty.
You’ve been listening to Jermaine Jenus.
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Elphick has been solid tonight
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I couldn't stand Bruceball but some of the recent performances, including this one, are worse if anything. There's a fair bit of hoofing going on. A lot of them don't seem interested in making an effort. I do wonder if maybe they just don't like Smith.
There have been many times I have not liked my bosses (apart from Dave, he's ace) but I have always done my job to the very best of my ability.
Yes but you're not a footballer Leeg. They're a "special" breed and it's not unknown for them to the opposite.
Fair point. Player power.
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Commentator talking some amount of pish. "Yes he does catch him but it's not a penalty" because... reasons.
Because it's a contact sport and not all contact is a foul.
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s
Not a pen for me. Tammy left his leg there looking for it.
On first viewing I thought it was, but seeing the replays, I don't think it was.
Same for me
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I can see why Kodjia wants to get out if he can't get a game when we need a goal.
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Yes but you're not a footballer Leeg.
Nor are half of our players.
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Was not a pen.
Hologram should have scored.
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Not a penalty for me -Abraham chose to fall over.
You can fuck off n'all.
I'm joking!
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If you make contact and don't get the ball, it's a foul. And it isn't a contact sport, with the exception of shoulder charges.
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Careful player.....don’t fall over by Mings.
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Boro losing, come on villa 89th whelan winner
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There is no excuse for this utter shit
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I can see why Kodjia wants to get out if he can't get a game when we need a goal.
After his last "performance" ?
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I can see why Kodjia wants to get out if he can't get a game when we need a goal.
Too lazy, doesn’t track back
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Hause is awful.
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They do like a dive this Brentford lot.
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Mings groin injury
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I’m in full agreement with you Risso 😉
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Mings is a man mountain.
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All our players can trap the ball thirty yards.
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Hourihane is a waste of a shirt - prances round doing sod all.
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If you make contact and don't get the ball, it's a foul. And it isn't a contact sport, with the exception of shoulder charges.
Eh? Since when? Where does it say that in the laws of the game? If it isn't a contact sport then every tackle, and every aerial challenge, every shielding of the ball would be a foul.
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They do like a dive this Brentford lot.
Alf Titmus warned us.
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That's was fucking shameful from Hologram on the far touchline then, looked like he was going over to ask for a fucking autograph.
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This is not good. Still, there's another 4 minutes until we wake up.
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Holigram keeps raising his arm for no apparent reason
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I think Hause has been ok, given he's a centre back. He's been better than anything I've seen from Taylor for months.
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We needed a Gayle ,he would have conned the ref for sure
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We look like a team who plays a division below Brentford.
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Referee a big fan of Rollerball.
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There is no excuse for this utter shit
You mean apart from a bang average and totally unbalanced squad that Bruce left us with?
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I can see why Kodjia wants to get out if he can't get a game when we need a goal.
Too lazy, doesn’t track back
I want him up front and the midfield and defenders to look after that. I get forwards have a defensive responsibility but the main reason they are on is to score goals.
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Holigram keeps raising his arm for no apparent reason
Jogging behind everything... Crap
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Nice bit of casual jogging for a through ball by Hourihane
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Been dreadful to watch. No pace, no urgency, no tempo, lacking basic passing ability.
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This is not good. Still, there's another 4 minutes until we wake up.
Agreed, we will win 3-0
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Hourihane is a waste of a shirt - prances round doing sod all.
His efforts at defending today have been shocking.
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If you make contact and don't get the ball, it's a foul. And it isn't a contact sport, with the exception of shoulder charges.
Eh? Since when? Where does it say that in the laws of the game? If it isn't a contact sport then every tackle, and every aerial challenge, every shielding of the ball would be a foul.
Shielding the ball is legal. Swinging a leg and missing the ball, and kicking a player, isn't.
It was a penalty.
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I think Hause has been ok, given he's a centre back. He's been better than anything I've seen from Taylor for months.
100% agreed.
We certainly haven't been weakened.
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I think Hause has been ok, given he's a centre back. He's been better than anything I've seen from Taylor for months.
To be fair he’s settled down a bit after a torrid first half
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Kalinic best game for us
that’s the only positive I can find so far
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When I was a kid going down the Villa I don’t remember pleading with the ref to blow his whistle so we could ‘achieve ‘ a draw against Brentford
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Our basic ball control is abysmal.
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I wish everyone would just lay off Hourihane.
He takes all the free kicks and corners doesn’t he? What the fuck more do you want.
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Nice bit of casual jogging for a through ball by Hourihane
The Brentford players didnt worry about tracking him
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Nice bit of casual jogging for a through ball by Hourihane
Playing with 10 men
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When I was a kid going down the Villa I don’t remember pleading with the ref to blow his whistle so we could ‘achieve ‘ a draw against Brentford
I think that's new to us all.
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Holigram keeps raising his arm for no apparent reason
Jogging behind everything... Crap
It's what he does best
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I wish everyone would just lay off Hourihane.
He takes all the free kicks and corners doesn’t he? What the fuck more do you want.
Quite Andy. I went in for a tackle last Tuesday and broke my foot, so I don't blame him for not wanting to try it.
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Kalinic best game for us
that’s the only positive I can find so far
Yes, I was thinking that, he looks like he might be settling down a bit.
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Kalinic best game for us
that’s the only positive I can find so far
To be fair centre backs have done well. And Whelan hasnt totally messed up
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Kodjia for Hourihane so we still have 10 men.
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I wish everyone would just lay off Hourihane.
He takes all the free kicks and corners doesn’t he? What the fuck more do you want.
Quite Andy. I went in for a tackle last Tuesday and broke my foot, so I don't blame him for not wanting to try it.
You'll still do a job left-back.
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Genius Hutton.
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Come on Kodj, show the haters how it's done.
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Kalinic best game for us
that’s the only positive I can find so far
Can you wait until full-time for comments like these, please?
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Jimmy danger on for hologram
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McGinn has been awful tonight. Not for want of effort, but still, really bad game for him.
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And you’re probably just as mobile as Hourihane.
Commiserations by the way.
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I can the villa winning this one late on!
Decent subs !
Up the villa
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We look nothing like a top 6 team.
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I swear Hourihane is the source of our problem. We’re basically playing a man short in midfield every flipping game!
If Whelan keeps his place when Jack is back, and it’s Hourihane that makes way, you watch the results and performances start to come.
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Genius Hutton.
It made me burst out laughing it was that bad.
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Given the abject nature of the performance over 90 mins, I would very much take a smash and/or grab here right now
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Firmly cementing our place as a bang average Championship side here.
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I wish everyone would just lay off Hourihane.
He takes all the free kicks and corners doesn’t he? What the fuck more do you want.
Quite Andy. I went in for a tackle last Tuesday and broke my foot, so I don't blame him for not wanting to try it.
Don't go in half arsed with your eyes closed was the early advice given to me. Give it the full George Curtis, then you will break your leg instead.
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Positives from tonight.
We have looked ‘generally’ quite solid in the centre of the back line.
The goalie has looked very competent.
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McGinn has been awful tonight. Not for want of effort, but still, really bad game for him.
It has been possibly his worst game for us, but I have some sympathy given what he has to work with. If you're a Brentford player and you make a run just about anywhere on the pitch you have at least two or three teammates to pass to. If a Villa player makes a fifteen yard run the other players use it as an excuse to get their breath back and have a bit of a point.
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Fucking hell McGinn.
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Fucking hell McGinn.
Aaargh!!!
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Worried with McGinn. Knackered? Disillusioned?
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Positives from tonight.
We have looked ‘generally’ quite solid in the centre of the back line.
The goalie has looked very competent.
Your fault
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We'll one day win a game again. Who knows when where or how, but it'll happen.
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So poor on each flank.
Or rather, wank flanks.
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McGinn has been awful tonight. Not for want of effort, but still, really bad game for him.
He's doing all the work. Supported by fucking imbeciles for the most part. It's no wonder why he's deteriorated a little in performance and he's likely knackered too.
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Worried with McGinn. Knackered? Disillusioned?
I’m starting to think that all the running around and enthusiasm masks the fact that he’s not that great a player
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I'm not keen on this tactic of giving them as long as they want on the edge of our box.
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They've had 21 (twenty one) shots.
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Worried with McGinn. Knackered? Disillusioned?
I’m starting to think that all the running around and enthusiasm masks the fact that he’s not that great a player
Nonsense.
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Kodjia doing same as Hou, not pressing, not defending
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There we go.
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That was abysmal from McGinn. We have applied a few promising breaks last 10 mins with poor passes.
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Bye bye
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Oh for cock's sake.
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Useless ******.
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And one that counts.
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He's a good player made to look better by the idiots around him
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Fuck sake
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It had to be that twat didn’t it.
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Just pathetic.
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There we go. Fuck this, Villa. Fuck this.
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Bollocks. Maupay
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See you all in August.
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And relax
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Got just what we deserved
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If you make contact and don't get the ball, it's a foul. And it isn't a contact sport, with the exception of shoulder charges.
Eh? Since when? Where does it say that in the laws of the game? If it isn't a contact sport then every tackle, and every aerial challenge, every shielding of the ball would be a foul.
Shielding the ball is legal. Swinging a leg and missing the ball, and kicking a player, isn't.
It was a penalty.
Ah so it is a contact sport after all? e didn;t swing a leg and he barely touched him. Abraham could have stayed on his feet and played the ball, he chose to go down. Many refs fall for it, some don't. But it's not in the laws of the game as far as I am aware that mere contact equals a foul. It's thinking like yours that is ruining the game. It leads to players going down at the merest touch and worse all this "initiating contact" by forwards before they throw themselves to the ground. Like that Swansea "penalty" against Whelan in the Cup. Sure there was contact but only because the Swansea forward threw himself into Whelan's path. It's bollocks
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Dean Smith looks stunned. He also looks massively out of his depth.
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Season over.
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They deserve that. Fuck sake.
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Well there you go. Can't say it hasn't been coming.
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Elphick
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Absolute dross.
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Shower of Shite
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Poor from Elphick
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See you all in August.
Yep. After all this is the most exciting division to be in.
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Which twat slides in? Was that Elphick?
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Nothing less than we deserved all game
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What the fuck kind of tackle was that from Mings!?
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So the 3-3 comeback was no sort of turning point at all then. Who could have guessed.
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And there's your basic Elphick problem.
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See you all in August.
Yep. After all this is the most exciting division to be in.
How far away from the relegation places are we?
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Awful defending by Elphick.
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Can’t say it’s undeserved - Well played Brentford.
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We are going to be fucked by the boggies on Saturday.
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How fucking stupid are our players
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Jeaus Chriat piss fucki g poor
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God, I hate this fucking sport.
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Ha ha the Scottish SNAFU
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Thanks season 2018/19 and goodnight. Don’t lose to Blose or Albion and plan for next year.
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Rubbish. Got what we deserved.
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Dean Smith looks stunned. He also looks massively out of his depth.
Does that mean you want him out?
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Which twat slides in? Was that Elphick?
Yup
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Just fuck off all of them. Useless ******.
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Waiting until 31st January to sign a midfielder, and then signing one who has been injured all season, was absolutely fucking stupid and could end up costing Smith his job.
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Made a mug of both centre halves . Season over.
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Dean Smith looks stunned. He also looks massively out of his depth.
Absolutely
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Jeaus Chriat piss fucki g poor
Superbly put.
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And there's your basic Elphick problem.
Yes that was poor but lay off him and Mings , probably best centre half duo this season and have had to save more attacks than we’d like but look what’s in front of them
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And there's your basic Elphick problem.
its been like the Alamo all night, the defense has been hammered, that what happens when you are tired.
It was a stupid lunge but we got what we deserve here fuck all.
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Fucking shite.
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Well. We need a more intelligent rebuild. Here's to next season. Thanks for the company everyone, up the Villa.
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Waiting until 31st January to sign a midfielder, and then signing one who has been injured all season, was absolutely fucking stupid and could end up costing Smith his job.
Not to mention the decent left back we needed
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Dean Smith looks stunned. He also looks massively out of his depth.
I can't help hearing a sense of smugness there.....or is that just me?
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It’s all far too happy clappy, none of them twats give a fuck
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And there's your basic Elphick problem.
Yes that was poor but lay off him and Mings , probably best centre half duo this season and have had to save more attacks than we’d like but look what’s in front of them
He's done ok, but he is basically slow with poor technique.
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mingin result
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Showed what a piss poor transfer window we had. Apart from Mings maybe.
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Dean Smith looks stunned. He also looks massively out of his depth.
I can't help hearing a sense of smugness there.....or is that just me?
It’s just you.
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Made a mug of both centre halves . Season over.
I don’t think you can blame the centre halves today to be honest. It’s that useless powderpuff midfield that’s the problem and the lack of any threat
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Dean Smith looks stunned. He also looks massively out of his depth.
I can't help hearing a sense of smugness there.....or is that just me?
Think it's you spoiling for an argument
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Dean Smith looks stunned. He also looks massively out of his depth.
I can't help hearing a sense of smugness there.....or is that just me?
Possibly just you. I think he makes a fair point.
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Smith has made us worse than we were under Bruce.
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Waiting until 31st January to sign a midfielder, and then signing one who has been injured all season, was absolutely fucking stupid and could end up costing Smith his job.
That's a ridiculous thing to say. Do you think that's how it works? It's widely known that we have a whole network of people tasked with improving the squad. It's not Sunday league football.
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Made a mug of both centre halves . Season over.
I don’t think you can blame the centre halves today to be honest. It’s that useless powderpuff midfield that’s the problem and the lack of any threat
Agreed only so long you can hold out. McGinn aside midfield is awful.
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Made a mug of both centre halves . Season over.
I don’t think you can blame the centre halves today to be honest. It’s that useless powderpuff midfield that’s the problem and the lack of any threat
Totally, ineffective midfield, ineffective team.
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With the loan players we are going to lose and with the exception of Grealish, Kallinic, and McGinn, I am really struggling to convince my self that ANY of the fuckers in that squad tonight should still be here next season.
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Dean Smith looks stunned. He also looks massively out of his depth.
I can't help hearing a sense of smugness there.....or is that just me?
So, you agree with his points, but think he's enjoying Smith looking massively out of his depth?
I think it's just you.
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Made a mug of both centre halves . Season over.
I don’t think you can blame the centre halves today to be honest. It’s that useless powderpuff midfield that’s the problem and the lack of any threat
Agreed only so long you can hold out. McGinn aside midfield is awful.
McGinn very poor tonight.
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I would rather we just play the kids for the rest of the season than watching that shower of shit.
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Dean Smith looks stunned. He also looks massively out of his depth.
I can't help hearing a sense of smugness there.....or is that just me?
It’s just you.
ok.....Smith out then.... pretty much done with this forum on a match day now. Maybe I'm in a minority but I want to feel some Villa love and support, not this constant negativity. Just makes it all worse. See you all at Wembley for the playoff final - #stillbelievetillmathematicallyimpossibelbecauseitjustmakesmefeelbetter
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With the loan players we are going to lose and with the exception of Grealish, Kallinic, and McGinn, I am really struggling to convince my self that ANY of the fuckers in that squad tonight should still be here next season.
Can't disagree with that.
I'd be disappointed if any of them were still here.
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Waiting until 31st January to sign a midfielder, and then signing one who has been injured all season, was absolutely fucking stupid and could end up costing Smith his job.
That's a ridiculous thing to say. Do you think that's how it works? It's widely known that we have a whole network of people tasked with improving the squad. It's not Sunday league football.
Really The Edge? That window amateur hour
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With the loan players we are going to lose and with the exception of Grealish, Kallinic, and McGinn, I am really struggling to convince my self that ANY of the fuckers in that squad tonight should still be here next season.
Agree. We have some real dross on our books. Sloppy Dross with no sense of urgency. Our players are not of the required standard.
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I am so angry
Pathetic doesnt come close
Dean Smith, I was so for you but this is going nowhere
Shit performances from average players... this is worse than DOL
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How have we gone from having the best squad in the division to this rag-tag bunch of fuckers
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Too many old players. We need a younger fitter squad. Dean needs time to build his own squad.
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We need to dig up the Kryptonite buried under Bodymoor Heath sharpish.
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Got what we deserved nothing.Smith sadly seems out of his depth
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Towards the end of the ninety minutes I was getting ready to post how we had been second best but at least our keeper had a good game and kept a clean sheet.
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Very worrying since Christmas, the last 2 games have really been disappointing - I enjoyed the come back on Friday, but we had played shocking all night, followed by tonight. Think you have to give Smth a pre season and transfer window, but I think its fair to ask some questions of him, its a shocking run against mainly teams lower than us in the table. Thought Andre green has been really poor in the last 2 performances, delivery again tonigt very poor... Season over
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How have we gone from having the best squad in the division to this rag-tag bunch of fuckers
Good point. Everyone was saying we had the best squad in the league a while back. As you say wtf happened?
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If Hourihane had scored we would have won.
Whatever else you say that's true.
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A poor player is a poor player. There is nothing the manager can do about that. We have poor players who are lazy, unmotivated and ungenuine. The manager can do something about that. It is what managers are paid to do.
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Got what we deserved nothing.Smith sadly seems out of his depth
He successfully managed one championship side enough to attract our attentions, and now he's managing another championship side, where's the big step up in that?