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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on February 11, 2014, 03:18:36 PM
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Tuesday 11th Feb 2014 KO 7.45pm (thread available @6.45pm when teams are announced)
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Ron Vlaar starts. #AVFCLIVE #CardiffCity
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Guzan Bacuna Vlaar (c) Baker Bennett Bertrand Westwood Albrighton Delph Benteke Agbonlahor
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Guzan Bacuna Vlaar (c) Baker Bennett Bertrand Westwood Albrighton Delph Benteke Agbonlahor.
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subs: Steer El Ahmadi Sylla Helenius Holt Clark Weimann
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4-4-2 - Bennett and Alby on the wings?
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So is that Bennett in midfield? And baker ahead of Clark?
That team looks shit, I have to say.
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Different
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Clark dropped and Baker kept? weird. Haven't seen 4-4-2 for a while, I do worry that we chop and change formation too much but I am delighted to see Vlaar back. Come on Villa we need a win.
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Happy with that starting line up - now have a go from the first whistle .
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Having seen the two teams surely surely we can win this one?
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So is that Bennett in midfield? And baker ahead of Clark?
That team looks shit, I have to say.
The Baker thing terrifies me, but at least Vlaar is in there.
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Maybe Bertrand in midfield actually?
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I think we've got a set up that works away from home - the 433 or 4312
I'm not sure why we've changed it here. I think we'll be reliant on the front two today
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I've often thought last season that Bennett should be given a try on the left side of midfield so will be interesting to see how he does .
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Maybe Bertrand in midfield actually?
I'm hoping Bennett, because we'll need Betrand covering Baker. I actually think Bennett is useful going forward, so maybe midfield might be a better role for him. Albrighton needs to follow up his performance from Saturday and everyone else needs to be a fuck load better.
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Anybody know the Cardiff team please ?
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Anybody know the Cardiff team please ?
Marshall; Theophile-Catherine, Caulker (C), Turner, John; Zaha, Mutch, Medel, Noone; Campbell, Jones.
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.@CardiffCityFC XI: Marshall; Theophile-Catherine, Caulker (C), Turner, John; Zaha, Mutch, Medel, Noone; Campbell, Jones. #CARAVL
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I am excited by that, apart from baffled by Baker ahead of Clark. Looks like a balanced 442. Lowton not in the squad, for why??
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Maybe Clark has a minor knock so not risking him from the start? Especially with Ron's issues.
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Anybody know the Cardiff team please ?
Marshall; Theophile-Catherine, Caulker (C), Turner, John; Zaha, Mutch, Medel, Noone; Campbell, Jones.
Thank you. Come on you Lions !
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I expect this to finish 6-4,which teams wins I dunno.
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I am excited by that, apart from baffled by Baker ahead of Clark. Looks like a balanced 442. Lowton not in the squad, for why??
I think Mr Lowton's days are numbered.
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I've often thought last season that Bennett should be given a try on the left side of midfield so will be interesting to see how he does .
I have also wanted too see how that would work out, as he is good on the ball. Maybe it will not work, but then at least it has been tried. But will it be Bertrand in midfield instead, perhaps ? I would prefer Bennett in midfield, but lets see.
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Is Gardner ever gonna get a chance?
Not saying he's the saviour but can he be any worse than any of our current central midfield options (apart from Delph, obviously)?
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Happy to see Bennett starting. I sure hope Helenius can get some time today. God knows he has waited long enough.
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Our starting line-up looks stronger than theirs.
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If we win this evening, PWS is in charge of these threads until we are mathematically safe from relegation.
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We are going to bitch slap them back to the lower leagues. UTV
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I am excited by that, apart from baffled by Baker ahead of Clark. Looks like a balanced 442. Lowton not in the squad, for why??
I think Mr Lowton's days are numbered.
A bit risky not to have him on the bench, but maybe Lowton has an injury ? I could not imagine Holt, Weimann and Helenius all being used as subs, so why 3 strikers ? But Lowton really has been disappointing lately, so perhaps rather Sylla as a makeshift rigth back, if needed. And rather see Helenius than Holt, but that is a different story...
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In other good news, Lambo is taking the squad to Spain for a warm weather training break after tonight. This time last year, they needed that but did not get it, seemingly because the club would not fund it.
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I see lamberts taking them away to the Mediterranean this weekend - lets hope they win and earn the treat.
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Yup. Still scared shitless. Not sure I can watch. Gonna go and do work. See you on the other side.
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Our starting line-up looks stronger than theirs.
On paper. Knowing Villa, they will boost the uncertain reputations of Zaha and Jones.
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He changes a formation when it works, Away. Keeps a formation when it doesn't work, Home. He truly baffles me with his thinking. Lets just get a win.
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In other good news, Lambo is taking the squad to Spain for a warm weather training break after tonight. This time last year, they needed that but did not get it, seemingly because the club would not fund it.
I don't believe for a second that the club wouldn't fund it - more likely the manager didnt suggest it.
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Just had another hail storm
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Maybe Clark has a minor knock so not risking him from the start? Especially with Ron's issues.
My guess is that it's specifically to deal with Kenwyne Jones's height.
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That line-up should give us more width at least. Get decent deliveries into Benteke and he'll score goals.
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It's when you look at that line up, you realise how unlikely pre season predictions that we might compete with the likes of Newcastle, Everton and even Southampton are.
Still could win this one though. I'm just very surprised baker is in - though Clark has been off colour of late I think baker has been worse. Perhaps it's all about kenwynne jones
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I'm going for a 3-2 win to us gabby first scorer, I'm that confident I've put a whole pound on it 100-1
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I think we'll win this one. Pace and width. Come on villa, give us something to smile about!
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It's when you look at that line up, you realise how unlikely pre season predictions that we might compete with the likes of Newcastle, Everton and even Southampton are.
Still could win this one though. I'm just very surprised baker is in - though Clark has been off colour of late I think baker has been worse. Perhaps it's all about kenwynne jones
I normally think we'll finish top six for about a week and a half, then top eight for the next couple of months, then top twelve for a few weeks after that, then we'll be relegated for sure during Christmas and a month or two after, and end up thinking that there are, after all, thank god, three teams worse than us in the league
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Ron Vlaar starts. #AVFCLIVE #CardiffCity
Who's Clive? he sends hundreds of tweets
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So is that Bennett in midfield? And baker ahead of Clark?
That team looks shit, I have to say.
Shit hot you mean. Marcy Marc is gonna have a field day. Fill yer boots son (and Bentekkers/Gabs' too).
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Everyone knows that this is live on BT Sport, right?
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Ron Vlaar starts. #AVFCLIVE #CardiffCity
Who's Clive? he sends hundreds of tweets
It's Aston Villa Fan Clive.
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Maybe Clark has a minor knock so not risking him from the start? Especially with Ron's issues.
My guess is that it's specifically to deal with Kenwyne Jones's height.
Things must be bad if Villa are setting up to desk specifically with Kenwyne Jones.
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Maybe Clark has a minor knock so not risking him from the start? Especially with Ron's issues.
My guess is that it's specifically to deal with Kenwyne Jones's height.
Things must be bad if Villa are setting up to desk specifically with Kenwyne Jones.
100% agree. We should be cupboarding him.
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Everyone knows that this is live on BT Sport, right?
Right off tut pub.
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I'd rather we kept him in our locker.
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Everyone knows that this is live on BT Sport, right?
It's much better watching on here! You don't get the full wrap around doom and gloom on BT Sport
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We've played a straight 442 a few times under lambert and every time has been awful as far as I can remember. Though it looked good twice when we changed to 442 v west ham.
But our away formation was working. We played brilliantly v Liverpool and then have played a different way in the subsequent two away games. And played the same way at home v west ham when it always looked likely to be the wrong choice
I just don't get it. Feel free to rub my nose in it if I've got this wrong by the end of the game!
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Bloody autocorrect.
Desk = deal
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For an attacker I always thought he was a little bit stationery really.
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Have the players been throwing darts at a pic of rat faced Ole, who refused to join our mighty club but agreed to join the bluebirds no redbirds er we just shamelessly take Tan's money and do his wacky things.
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Everyone knows that this is live on BT Sport, right?
It's much better watching on here! You don't get the full wrap around doom and gloom on BT Sport
Ray Stubbs does induce suicidal thoughts, though!
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I for some reason really want Bennett to succeed, I hope he has free reign on the wing rather than worrying about Cardiff.
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I for some reason really want Bennett to succeed, I hope he has free reign on the wing rather than worrying about Cardiff.
Yes, same here, induces exactly the same feelings in me. I felt a bit sorry for him last season though he did some idiotic things on occasions
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Right. Tandoori mixed grill on the way. Let's turn these over.
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Lambo: Vlaar key, tight hamstring last Saturday, more liberated away, hard to explain home form, league is tight but we are equipped to win matches, we want to win and increase the gap. (Nothing new, because Ray Stubbs was interviewer...)
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Right. Tandoori mixed grill on the way. Let's turn these over.
Make sure you turn the prawns regularly. The chicken can be left for longer.
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I think Baker is in ahead of Clark to deal with Jones. Can see why else he would pick him out of the two.
Bennett's selection is a strange one, but Noone has been one of their better players so maybe it's to cut him out.
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I for some reason really want Bennett to succeed, I hope he has free reign on the wing rather than worrying about Cardiff.
Agree, Bennett will be a good player in the future. Froggy on WM tonight said he thinks Bennett will end up as a winger with his pace and crossing ability. Richard Sneekes really rates him too. I tend to listen to ex-pros more than opinions on here. They've played at professional level.
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As they are ex-pros they would have.
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Daveeeed says we are shit at home because the villa fans are too demanding.
Nice of him to blame fans, who in the main, are pretty blameless.
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For an attacker I always thought he was a little bit stationery really.
He is a bad photocopy of Emile.
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Im ok with it , just prefer clark in
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C'mon lads, lets get at them from the first whistle like the lives of your loved ones depended on it and don't stop until the very last whistle. "Earn" all that money you get and for a full 90 minutes for once....do it for us.
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Daveeeed says we are shit at home because the villa fans are too demanding.
Nice of him to blame fans, who in the main, are pretty blameless.
He did just say that, even though he played for Newcastle and Spurs. L'idiot..
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Perhaps they were professional mud wrestlers. Reverence for has beens is part of the regime of punditocracy in football.
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Come on you Villa boys. Don't be suckers no more.
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Paul Lambert looks like he's aged 10 years in the last 15 months!
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Perhaps they were professional mud wrestlers. Reverence for has beens is part of the regime of punditocracy in football.
Hopefully not male prostitutes.
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Paul Lambert looks like he's aged 10 years in the last 15 months!
I feel like I've aged 10 years in the last 15 weeks.
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come on Marc . Do the bizz ;)
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Come on, Villa, we can do this!!
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Win Villa please.
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Is it snowing in Birmingham?
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come on Villa
Ive been excepted for a loan for a new car
I feel a good vibe
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Come on, FFS, let's have something to smile about.
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Cardiff have a very attacking line-up, lets hope they're more vulnerable on the counter
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Press the ball please Villa.
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Please win, Villa. Please....
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should be a booking
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Much again. 2 bookings not given.
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should be a booking
Yep, how is that not a yellow?
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Gary McAllister knows even less about Villa than when he was the manager.
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should be a booking
Yep, how is that not a yellow?
And Delph to go in late and get one anytime now.
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I guarantee Alby will get an assist tonight
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this on the radio lads?
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Nearly back home. Win you bastards. That is all.
By the way, I think we will.
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Pretty good start.
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Ah Baker giving away a stupid foul.
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Bennett & Bertrand definitely doubling up on Noone. Agree that Mutch is out to injure Delph.
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Quite often in the press, I see our away kit referred to as horrible, but i have to say, I quite like it.
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and it nearly led to trouble.
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Albrighton's looking sharp again
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Alrighton looking good.
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Alrighton looking good.
Agreed.
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On the radio they confirmed the Bitter Birds are still nil nil. Probably because it's an 8pm kick off. Knobbers.
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Albrighton also looking pretty sharp.
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Good try Delph
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Supermarc just needs to focus on hitting his target man, having started as well as he finished on Saturday.
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wants to be passing ;)
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Alby sounds like he's started well.
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Started brightly.
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Dangerous tackle from Baker.
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Great break
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Was worried about Delph saw him limping, he's OK then?
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Dangerous tackle from Baker.
Excellent tackle from Baker
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I wish Baker would watch the man not the ball.
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Dangerous tackle from Baker.
Ha ha ha
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Quite often in the press, I see our away kit referred to as horrible, but i have to say, I quite like it.
What have the press ever known? That kit is magnificent. My wife tells me.
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Sounds like guzan saved us.
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Evening chaps, hows it been ?
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fcuk close
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Fucking hell defence sliced open and Guzan saves us. Then they hit the bar, fucking sort it out Villa.
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cardiff hit woodwoek twice
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Shit the bed
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Craig Noone is ripping us a new arse hole
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Hit the woodwork twice. Jeeze sort it out
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Lucky escape - saved by the post
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Fucking wakey wakey Villa.
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Who is marking & tracking Zaha?!
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Jesus wept
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Midfield has to close opposition down better around the box.
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Post. Bar. Dear me.
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Take it it's not been good then?
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Weather the storm.
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we are the Keystone Cops and I claim my prize.
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on their forum their just as depressed fans are saying this isn't going to be their night.
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Take it it's not been good then?
We've looked bright and have been the better team, except for a couple of minutes ago when we tried our best to let them score.
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oo-er
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The fucking ball bounces right back off Benteke all to often. That last time, to compound things, he tried to recover and Delph tripped him!
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Who is marking & tracking Zaha?!
lowton ;)
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Chaotic defending again?
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Bacuna v Zaha. Terrifying.
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come on villa go at them
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The only consolation I am taking from this start is that we generally do weather the storm and then break and score.
Clutches straws
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Take it it's not been good then?
We actually had a good spell but Cardiff have dominated the midfield last few minutes, we look outnumbered and outmaneuvered in there.
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Take it it's not been good then?
We actually had a good spell but Cardiff have dominated the midfield last few minutes, we look outnumbered and outmaneuvered in there.
Can't we just hoof it over the midfield?
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"You can see the game plan from both managers, though, get the ball wide and let the wingers try to win it for them"
First time that's been said about Lambo for a while.
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"You can see the game plan from both managers, though, get the ball wide and let the wingers try to win it for them"
First time that's been said about Lambo for a while.
It's also not the Cardiff game plan.
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Stating the bleedin obvious but we need something out of this...
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We do have a habit of making even the shittest of teams look like Barcelona.
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It's the wide players running across our midfield that's causing us problems. And the fact they want the loose balls more
Our defence looks very square, except when baker is three yards behind vlaar.
It is hard to see what Bennett is going to provide that Weimann couldn't, unless he's going to get a good cross into the box. He is definitely capable of that, but we'll need to get him in the right positions
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We're losing every defensive battle here. Baker is a bit lucky to get away with a penalty shout there and Bacuna keeps getting done Zaha.
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Nathan Baker is not good enough. Could quite easily have been a penalty.
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I've seen them given. We look fairly dangerous on the break but still dodgy at the back
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Baker is such a liability. I can't believe he started ahead of Clark. Alby looks bright though
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Amazing how many pundits talk about Benteke's loss of form earlier in the season and put it down to everything other than his injury and the fall out from it.
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Clear penalty. Phew!
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Can't see us lasting till half time without letting at least one in.
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Wakey wakey Bennett
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Looking back that should have been a pen, Baker really has to do a lot lot better.
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Yeh that was a pen. Baker . .
Gabby and Bennett - what was that?
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looked a pen and ref was right there
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One of these days, Baker is going to snap someone's ribs in half going in like that.
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And guess what we lack in this match? An experienced centre back and number 10, to give the team control. Why don't the people who get players in transfer windows see what we see?
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My BT Sport stream is worse than an illegal internet stream
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We need someone to kick Zaha.
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It's far too easy for them to play balls through us and get crosses in.
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We're getting progressively worse.
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Noone is dominating our midfield.
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We're playing like villa used to under mon. But we don't generally have the players we did then.
We could win this if we get the breaks, but i think it is dependent on getting the breaks. Our shape looks very wonky. We seem to have two left backs in the side but a massive gap there half the time
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We're getting progressively worse.
It's like we popped some pills before the start and they're starting to kick in now.
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We need someone to kick Zaha.
Nathan 'Leg' Baker
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sometimes when I play games, I deliberately "hobble" myself to make things more of a challenge. Play call of duty just using a shotgun, play single handed backhands only in tennis, try and only score from headers on FIFA etc.
I think Lambert picks Baker for a similar reason.
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Zaha has decided to run this match. And Villa have decided to let him.
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The squad that Lambert built isn't worth 50p. This is crap again against another bottom 3 side.
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Noone is dominating our midfield.
No-one is in ours.
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We look sloppy going forward and at the back here.
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We've disintegrated.
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Yet again we concede possession from a throw in
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We sound awful now.
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were so poor at times
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Jesus Christ, Villa.
What is happening? Get a fucking grip again.
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On the bright side this could be our bad half and we might have our 15 minute spell of football in the second half.
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fuck me can't rad catch today...thats twice
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FFS Villa, get a fucking grip before we concede.
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Sorry, but are slowly becoming shambolic here.
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They're going to score.
I smell a Baker own goal. It's been a while
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Baker and Guzan fucked up there and Vlaar saved us. This is not good enough, we're offering very little going forward and look all over the place at the back.
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We are all over the place. Shocking.
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How was that not off side?
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Surely that's an absolute mile offside?
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Joke of a defence
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Surely that's an absolute mile offside?
Which one?
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We could have avoided this pressure by passing to each other. Comical at times.
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I got here late, so it's probably been said. Isn't Baker in front of Bertrand no different from TSM playing Hutton in midfield? Only he was scared of Bale - who have Cardiff got that's scary?
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It's just awful, awful.
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We are playing a team in the bottom three and are hanging on. Fuck me we are shit...
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I got here late, so it's probably been said. Isn't Baker in front of Bertrand no different from TSM playing Hutton in midfield? Only he was scared of Bale - who have Cardiff got that's scary?
Sorry Bennett, not Baker.
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OGS is talking tacticspeak to Theophile there.
Any minute soon, Lambo is going to walk up and down, clapping his hands quickly, and shouting "come on, come on"
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Mutch hamstring blessing. Until Villa make this Molde kid sub an instant star.
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Really poor stuff yet again :(
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On the bright side this could be our bad half and we might have our 15 minute spell of football in the second half.
oh yes Lamberst brilliant half time talks ;(
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We could have avoided this pressure by passing to each other. Comical at times.
Pass? snigger....
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This is really poor at the moment.
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I got here late, so it's probably been said. Isn't Baker in front of Bertrand no different from TSM playing Hutton in midfield? Only he was scared of Bale - who have Cardiff got that's scary?
Noone.
See what I did there?
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OGS is talking tacticspeak to Theophile there.
Any minute soon, Lambo is going to walk up and down, clapping his hands quickly, and shouting "come on, come on"
"Go again! Go again!"
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Bacuna is out of position, Vlaar is commanding as ever, Bertrand doing ok. Baker and Bennett responsible for too many balls flying around at random, suicidal angles. Signs of players that simply aren't good enough for this level...
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Poor again so far.
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Bennett offering just short of fuck all in midfield.
I think, if Wiemann is awake today, then his presence and energy is a better option.
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KEA for Bennett for me. 433 or 4312. Let's get a grip in midfield. Let's close them down better. Let's not leave bacuna one v one against zaha
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OGS is talking tacticspeak to Theophile there.
Any minute soon, Lambo is going to walk up and down, clapping his hands quickly, and shouting "come on, come on"
Don't forget the shout of 'GO AGAIN'.....
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God, fucking awful passing, just awful
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Fucking pass the football.
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We are SO poor in midfield it's embarrassing at times.
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I don't blame him for trying Bennett on the left of mf. A number of us have thought he's worth a go there.
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Bennett offering just short of fuck all in midfield.
I think, if Wiemann is awake today, then his presence and energy is a better option.
WTF is Bennett doing in midfield??? I mean, I know we're short of quality in there but jesus wept.
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We just look so piss poor at the basics.
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Started well but the outnumbering in midfield has started to tell. Also, Cardiff, when they get the ball in midfield, what's that 'moving' thing their players do? It's weird.
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please excite me Villa
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We are losing virtually every individual battle.
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Well so far we have been shit
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Lambert is doing his nut at least. Bennett has been poor. Luna would do more!
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please excite me Villa
You want the moon on a stick.
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Started well but the outnumbering in midfield has started to tell. Also, Cardiff, when they get the ball in midfield, what's that 'moving' thing their players do? It's weird.
Also passing to a team mate...
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This is mirroring the West Ham game. We can't keep hold of the ball and we're giving away corner after corner.
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Not so much offside as in his own postcode...
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Get Baker off and Clark on.
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KEA for Bennett for me. 433 or 4312. Let's get a grip in midfield. Let's close them down better. Let's not leave bacuna one v one against zaha
We know we've got real problems if the answer is KEA!
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First 8 or 9 minutes, we did well.
Since then we have looked second best by some distance.
WTF is wrong with Lambert? Is this what he actually wants?
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I don't blame him for trying Bennett on the left of mf. A number of us have thought he's worth a go there.
i think he will be good there but not first game back from 4 months out.
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After a season and a half and all the signings this is where we are. Struggling against fellow relegation strugglers.
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Started well but the outnumbering in midfield has started to tell. Also, Cardiff, when they get the ball in midfield, what's that 'moving' thing their players do? It's weird.
Also passing to a team mate...
Sorry, I don't understand what you said. Was it Hungarian? Circa 1953?
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Get Baker off and Clark on.
Yep.
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So, hit the woodwork twice, pen turned down, goal ruled out.
And we're much much better away.
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Big let off there. Hopefully it will wake us up but right now there only looks to be one team that were newly promoted and in the relegation zone.
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Good passage of work all instigated by Delph
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Westwood needs to actually do something.
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KEA for Bennett for me. 433 or 4312. Let's get a grip in midfield. Let's close them down better. Let's not leave bacuna one v one against zaha
We know we've got real problems if the answer is KEA!
and Luna ;)
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The 442 isn't working. It was to begin with
A goal is coming here isn't it? We need to change the pattern of the game. Shuffling it wide for Alby to float a cross in from half way through their half every five minutes isn't working. And gabby and benteke aren't holding it up well enough
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Westwood needs to actually do something.
Is he playing tonight? I genuinely didn't know.
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Terrible Baker out of position again.
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At the moment, we are a disaster waiting to happen.
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Every loose ball falls for Cardiff. It really isn't good enough. Benteke and Gabby need to hold the ball up more.
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So, hit the woodwork twice, pen turned down, goal ruled out.
And we're much much better away.
Before today we were 10th in the "away matches only" table, so I think that horse bolted a long time ago.
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Westwood needs to actually do something.
To be fair he does point a lot
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We look like a fucking pinball machine. Every time the ball touches one of us it flies off at pace at an angle you couldn't have predicted.
There is no game plan here. I guarantee if you put a 1st division side out there tonight there still would be more shape to their game and at least the tiniest idea of what each player is expected to do.
Our 11 look headless.
We need a leader. Even if we go on to win tonight, this and this whole 20 months reign has been shambolic.
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The 442 isn't working. It was to begin with
A goal is coming here isn't it? We need to change the pattern of the game. Shuffling it wide for Alby to float a cross in from half way through their half every five minutes isn't working. And gabby and benteke aren't holding it up well enough
Absolutely right. Benteke and Gabby have both been shite so far tonight and we are getting outplayed in midfield.
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Westwood needs to actually do something.
To be fair he does point a lot
We've not had a natural pointer since the absolute world class pointing duo which was Zat Knight and NRC. The pointing spine of the team.
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Westwood needs to actually do something.
Is he playing tonight? I genuinely didn't know.
It's difficult for him to give our play any tempo when the ball is spending most of its time about 5 metres above his head, floated forward by Baker or the FBs towards Benteke...
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kea was excellent at anfield. He's our best player at winning the ball in the opponents half
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we are the only team who can make Kenny Jones look like Drogba
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We are getting the run around by fucking Cardiff.
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I just don't get it.
Whatever your stance on Lambert, why are we talking to him about a new contract when he's got 18 months left and we are this shit?
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Far too many last ditch clearances and challenges needed by villa.
All the momentum and confidence is with Cardiff.
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We are losing virtually every individual battle.
It is so depressing to watch
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My river thing has flooded. I shall watch the thread.
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I just don't get it.
Whatever your stance on Lambert, why are we talking to him about a new contract when he's got 18 months left and we are this shit?
Amen, brother.
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It would be nice to see the occasional contribution to the Villa team from Westwood. He truly is one of the most anonymous Villa players ever.
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Why do we always defend like we are defending a 1-0 lead in the last 5 minutes of an FA Cup semi? It's desperate stuff, constantly.
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Westwood needs to actually do something.
Is he playing tonight? I genuinely didn't know.
It's difficult for him to give our play any tempo when the ball is spending most of its time about 5 metres above his head, floated forward by Baker or the FBs towards Benteke...
Oh, absolutely. I just didn't know he was playing.
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Get the fucking ball to Alby!
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I don't think it matters what formation we play or who Lambert puts where, this squad is not good enough.
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It would be nice to see the occasional contribution to the Villa team from Westwood. He truly is one of the most anonymous Villa players ever.
He's like a Poundland Sidwell.
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So, hit the woodwork twice, pen turned down, goal ruled out.
And we're much much better away.
Before today we were 10th in the "away matches only" table, so I think that horse bolted a long time ago.
*watches solitary crumb of comfort wiped off table*
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We haven't looked like scoring at all yet, but look like conceding a ton
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You see I think that Delph and Westwood have got the skills to get more of a hold of midfield
But not playing this 442. There aren't enough options for them.
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I just don't get it.
Whatever your stance on Lambert, why are we talking to him about a new contract when he's got 18 months left and we are this shit?
Yep.
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So, hit the woodwork twice, pen turned down, goal ruled out.
And we're much much better away.
Before today we were 10th in the "away matches only" table, so I think that horse bolted a long time ago.
Doesn't change the fact that we are much better away - mostly because we're horrible at home.
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oh bennett nOOOOO
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we are the only team who can make Kenny Jones look like Drogba
What The Small Faces drummer?
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Whatever happened to Aston Villa ..!!
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Better from bennett.
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How did all that bollocks about Lambert being an innovative, forward-thinking, modern football coach start?
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I just don't get it.
Whatever your stance on Lambert, why are we talking to him about a new contract when he's got 18 months left and we are this shit?
are we ?
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So, hit the woodwork twice, pen turned down, goal ruled out.
And we're much much better away.
Before today we were 10th in the "away matches only" table, so I think that horse bolted a long time ago.
*watches solitary crumb of comfort wiped off table*
;D
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I'm really not liking Bacuna at right back.
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Surely 442 should be tried at home not away where we have actually been picking up points.
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Whatever happened to Aston Villa ..!!
Hired a succession of shite managers and the owner doesn't have the balls to sort out another one.
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Shitty shite crosses....its fucking easy, a cross is a lofted fucking pass and they can't even do that. Terricle bunch of players, what the fuck are they practising....fifa 14?????
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Whatever happened to Aston Villa ..!!
Well Doug Ellis fell out with Ron...
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Westwood's passing, pressing and basically everything has been terrible.
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Stop giving the fuckin ball away!!
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How did all that bollocks about Lambert being an innovative, forward-thinking, modern football coach start?
I think he edited his own page on Wiki
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Fuckin Westwood giving the ball away again!
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Westwood's passing, pressing and basically everything has been terrible.
And yet he has started every single game for which he has been available, apparently.
Mind boggling.
The kid is having a tough time of it this season but gets picked every single fecking week.
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Better again.
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No doubt Lambert thinks we've been fantastic this half.
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Headless chickens have a better plan than villa...
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We've been poor everywhere, but we've been absolutely atrocious in centre mid. A terrible half Villa and we're lucky not to be losing.
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Yet again the constant changing of shape means a team that struggles to pass the ball anyway . .
And benteke nearly scores. Sort of
I'd still change it though.
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No surprise at all.....garbage
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HT
Bayern Munich 0 Villa 0
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No doubt Lambert thinks we've been fantastic this half.
No doubt about that whatsoever.
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Benteke is a passenger
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Bloody painful first half. We're a crap team. Thank god it's still 0-0.
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Well let's hope that was our shit half. We are fucked if it was our good one.
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Please dear God make it stop.
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I simply don't understand how the confidence and ability demonstrated against Arsenal and Liverpool albeit for 45 minutes simply hasn't been built on. The longer it goes the more like strangers we look. I really want Lambert to succeed but fuck me, this is gash so far.
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I'm a Westwood fan but he's been very poor again this match. Not that he's helped out at all in any way by our Stone Age tactics and set-up.
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I'm not missing much then?
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Started well then fell apart. Not good enough.
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Not sure anyone (still) knows what they're doing.
Gabby has done fuck all and as for Westwood, what does he have to do to be dropped?
Personally, I'd bring Weimann on for Gabby and Clark in for Westwood in midfield.
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Like watching paint, that's already dry.
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I saw the last 15 minutes were we that bad all half?
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Headless chickens have a better plan than villa...
Think that's a bit unfair - it implies we have a semblance of a plan that gives headless chickens a starting point
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Decent 5 minutes at the start followed by more turgid, directionless, dross. Lucky to go in 0-0 against the bottom of the league.
Lambert needs to change the formation, take Benett off and replace him with Weimann and hope we get a couple on the break.
I really hope we can avoid an early goal in the 2nd half.
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Well let's hope that was our shit half. We are fucked if it was our good one.
I pray to McGrath that your first sentence is the correct one.
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We just don't look like a team, do we?
We look like a defence, a couple of strikers, and a bit of a random mess in the middle.
There never seems to be any shape to us, does there?
It really is absolute gash. I've always thought the major problem is the squad isn't good enough - and that is one of the problems - but really, what do they do in training? Do they work on things like movement or possession? Do we work on our passing?
We struggle to complete throw-ins, let alone passes, so fuck knows what he's working on at BMH.
Oh well, another two or three years on the contract, so we'd better get used to this shit.
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Awful from us but it's 0-0 so Lambert won't make any changes.
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No doubt Lambert thinks we've been fantastic this half.
No doubt about that whatsoever.
watching him, and hearing him on the pitch mic on my feed 3-4 times, he was far from happy. He is not enjoying this anymore than us
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Fuck sake we are shit.2nd from bottom newly promoted team and they have a better CM than is.
Bennett has been poor going forward and gets in Bertrands way going backwards.They have the smarter movement upfront and Zaha though raw shows glimpes he could rip us apart.
Lucky to go in even at half time
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I'm having to base it purely on radio commentary but it sounded like anything decent we did came from Alby or Bennett out wide. So get the fucking ball to them rather than hoofing it towards Benteke.
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Christ - I hope that wasn't our 'good' half...........
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I saw the last 15 minutes were we that bad all half?
First 8 or 9 minutes we looked competent.
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If the same 11 are sent out second half in the same formation then I really don't see how anyone can defend Lambert.
I said before the game that it is a strange choice to change formation away, when we have been poor-ish and yet stick to the same old same old at home where we have been atrocious.
Too many of Lamberts decisions make no sense.
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They've sussed were suspect to pace at the back, but we're one pass away from scoring. Bizarre - can only get better...
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I saw the last 15 minutes were we that bad all half?
Worse. Some comedy defending but overall just clueless, weak and shit.
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I'm a Westwood fan but he's been very poor again this match. Not that he's helped out at all in any way by our Stone Age tactics and set-up.
Oh please! He plays like this every single game! He's an appalling footballer who is out of his depth in the PL.
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We are currently playing worse than one of the main contenders to get relegated. I think I might go to bed and hope that I find out in the morning that we have turned things round and salvaged a draw at least..
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The fundamental basics of playing football escape this team and therefore its utterly incompetent & shameful coaching and management team. My half drunk smelly Sunday morning veterans team who had been in the curry house earlier until 2am had five times more tactical nous.
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OGS has sussed Lamberts tactics out and we're too predictable. We don't have any intuitive player to open them up. Tekkers and Gabby are shackled most of the time.
We look more likely to concede than score.
Who was saying on the pre match thread they were shit, well Villa are unable to break them down so far, still a rousing half time Lambert talk should ensure two quick goal s in the second half.....
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45 minutes you'll never get back. And on that note, goodnight Villa, I'm switching off BT Sport and watching re runs of Two And A Half Men instead because frankly, you bore me.
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We just don't look like a team, do we?
We look like a defence, a couple of strikers, and a bit of a random mess in the middle.
There never seems to be any shape to us, does there?
It really is absolute gash. I've always thought the major problem is the squad isn't good enough - and that is one of the problems - but really, what do they do in training? Do they work on things like movement or possession? Do we work on our passing?
We struggle to complete throw-ins, let alone passes, so fuck knows what he's working on at BMH.
Oh well, another two or three years on the contract, so we'd better get used to this shit.
We are all over the place, no semblance of a system, no defensive cohesion. Without Vlaar we'd be losing.
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I'm a Westwood fan but he's been very poor again this match. Not that he's helped out at all in any way by our Stone Age tactics and set-up.
Oh please! He plays like this every single game! He's an appalling footballer who is out of his depth in the PL.
I thought he was our best player last Saturday - at least passing the ball and not hiding...
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We just don't look like a team, do we?
We look like a defence, a couple of strikers, and a bit of a random mess in the middle.
There never seems to be any shape to us, does there?
It really is absolute gash. I've always thought the major problem is the squad isn't good enough - and that is one of the problems - but really, what do they do in training? Do they work on things like movement or possession? Do we work on our passing?
We struggle to complete throw-ins, let alone passes, so fuck knows what he's working on at BMH.
Oh well, another two or three years on the contract, so we'd better get used to this shit.
The squad is shit.
The set up is just as bad.
Who's fault is it?
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How we doing?
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Need to do the better second half.
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I'm a Westwood fan but he's been very poor again this match. Not that he's helped out at all in any way by our Stone Age tactics and set-up.
Oh please! He plays like this every single game! He's an appalling footballer who is out of his depth in the PL.
I disagree. I'm sorry every time someone disagrees with you that you vent forth some Ohing and Ahing ejaculation like a swooning Dame in a Regency novel.
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We need to be a million times better in the second half. We have massively rode our luck.
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45 minutes you'll never get back. And on that note, goodnight Villa, I'm switching off BT Sport and watching re runs of Two And A Half Men instead because frankly, you bore me.
I've only just got in, I thought it was on SKY and was in two minds about watching it. Reading the reviews here plus the fact I haven't got BT Sport has made my mind up for me thank God.
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Poor, very poor. So much bad decision making going on out there, there's been so many options for a good pass or through ball and every time it just gets pinged backwards instead. I have to think this is more because of the tactics and coaching by Lambert and co rather than the players. Good to see we are playing with a bit of width today, but does everything have to go down the f'ing wing, we've had a few through balls available with Gabby or Benteke sat on the last man, and then pinged it out to the wing. Can't we vary our play.
Benteke has had a couple of chances and should have done better.
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Our central midfield is not good enough to go with just 2 against any team in this league. Get 3 in there asap.
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And I turned to my brother on Saturday and said, "We need to change this. This is where we need a Plan B."
Which was of course to concede two in as many minutes... Can see that happening again!
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we are the only team who can make Kenny Jones look like Drogba
We actually are, arent we ! And Noone and Zaha are Robben and Ribery. Well, not quite, but why are we always so far away from the opponent with the ball ? Bacuna should be more aggressive against Zaha, too often he lets him control the ball. And why do they win every loose ball ? It is as if our players do not anticipate where the ball will be end, or do not believe they can win it. That is not acceptable. Gabby has been really poor and the hoofing to Benteke does not work at all. Pass the ball and let Albrighton hit crosses, some of them have been quite decent, especially the last one.
But I think we should switch to 4-3-3 and put Gabby on the left, then try Bennett as left midfield/winger in another game later.
Oh, and we keep giving the ball away at throw-ins as always..
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Even average players at this level should be able to do the basics...pass..move..pick players up..etc..Ours cant seem to though.
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I'm a Westwood fan but he's been very poor again this match. Not that he's helped out at all in any way by our Stone Age tactics and set-up.
Oh please! He plays like this every single game! He's an appalling footballer who is out of his depth in the PL.
I thought he was our best player last Saturday - at least passing the ball and not hiding...
His forte - sideways and backward passing. He is NOT a PL footballer.
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And I turned to my brother on Saturday and said, "We need to change this. This is where we need a Plan B."
Which was of course to concede two in as many minutes... Can see that happening again!
I said to villajk and DC5 that it can't get any worse. I hid my face in my hood for a good 10 minutes afterwards.
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Our central midfield is not good enough to go with just 2 against any team in this league. Get 3 in there asap.
Exactly hence why we usually play 3 there.No decent supply to forwards Benteke either gets the ball deep or on his head compare that to service Jones is getting...
So frustrating and frankly looking at us we are most definitely candidates to go down
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Westwood is not a holding mid, he needs energy around him. How Sylla delph and Westwood have not been given a run of games with sylla holding and tackling like last season is beyond me.
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Our is one of the worst if not the worst in the league, it just offers fuck all. Delph can be good individually, but as a unit they are terrible.
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Arguably the finest training facilities in the country, and this is the result of all that lavish expense. A team with no composure, no quality and no guts. Even this team are better than this. Lambert, sort it out or do the right thing, admit you're out of your depth, and walk.
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We definitely need to get three in the middle. That could be Weimann playing behind benteke with gabby wide, or it could be kea. But it needs to be one of them cos Cardiff have been a fair bit better than us
Why oh why oh why can't we try and get a consistent shape to our play? It really can't help with the passing not to have that automatic feel for where your teammates are
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I blame the environment agency.
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Arguably the finest training facilities in the country, and this is the result of all that lavish expense. A team with no composure, no quality and no guts. Even this team are better than this. Lambert, sort it out or do the right thing, admit you're out of your depth, and walk.
Not a prayer. Currently discussing pay rise.
Fucking pathetic management, that.
I honestly would like the whole lot of them to fuck off. What a bunch of amateurs.
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I blame the environment agency.
I'm blaming Pickles (the fat Tory, not the World Cup finding dog).
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I'm a Westwood fan but he's been very poor again this match. Not that he's helped out at all in any way by our Stone Age tactics and set-up.
Oh please! He plays like this every single game! He's an appalling footballer who is out of his depth in the PL.
I disagree. I'm sorry every time someone disagrees with you that you vent forth some Ohing and Ahing ejaculation like a swooning Dame in a Regency novel.
Keep on deluding yourself mate. You've been doing it since Lambert took over.
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OK, reading the comments I take it we are doing badly.
I have a 40 minute drive ahead, hoping for good news when I reach my destination.
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We'll all be eating our words when we smash five in this half.
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Arguably the finest training facilities in the country, and this is the result of all that lavish expense. A team with no composure, no quality and no guts. Even this team are better than this. Lambert, sort it out or do the right thing, admit you're out of your depth, and walk.
Wishful thinking maz , sadly he is entrenched here .
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Our is one of the worst if not the worst in the league, it just offers fuck all. Delph can be good individually, but as a unit they are terrible.
We all hope the experiment would succeed but the sad fact is that right now we've got far too many players who aren't good enough to pull on the claret and blue of Villa. In fact a lot aren't good enough to put on the claret and blue of Burnley. Some of these players are just incredibly poor. In addition we've got a manager who just isn't and never, ever, will be Villa level. The only way Lambert and some of these players will ever be good enough for Villa is if we become a Championship club, which would appear to be Lerners Baldrickesque, cunning plan.
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Reminds me of The Blackadder quote when he asks Captain Plum
'Crew M'lord. What crew?'
Lambert being Tom Baker character and us lot being the Blackadder.
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I'm a Westwood fan but he's been very poor again this match. Not that he's helped out at all in any way by our Stone Age tactics and set-up.
Oh please! He plays like this every single game! He's an appalling footballer who is out of his depth in the PL.
I disagree. I'm sorry every time someone disagrees with you that you vent forth some Ohing and Ahing ejaculation like a swooning Dame in a Regency novel.
Keep on deluding yourself mate. You've been doing it since Lambert took over.
Both of you wind it in right now.
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El Ahmadi for Bennett is the change he needs to make. Revert to 4-3-3. I just hope he doesn't wait until we're 1-0 down to do it.
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Turn up in the second half Villa, you were fucking embarrassing in the first half.
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Take off Bennett and bring on KEA. At the very least he's a midfielder.
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I'm struggling to understand why we are so poor tonight.
We know we can't break down teams who park the bus, like West Ham on Saturday, but Cardiff are coming onto us, leaving space and gaps all over the place.
But we can't/ don't know how to exploit that.
I think it boils down to the fact that we just do not have any quality in the team.
Yes, there is effort but there is a massive void when it comes to quality.
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I'm a Westwood fan but he's been very poor again this match. Not that he's helped out at all in any way by our Stone Age tactics and set-up.
Oh please! He plays like this every single game! He's an appalling footballer who is out of his depth in the PL.
I disagree. I'm sorry every time someone disagrees with you that you vent forth some Ohing and Ahing ejaculation like a swooning Dame in a Regency novel.
Keep on deluding yourself mate. You've been doing it since Lambert took over.
If you're suggesting that Monty is somehow overly pro-Lambert, you clearly don't read what he writes.
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Reminds me of The Blackadder quote when he asks Captain Plum
'Crew M'lord. What crew?'
Lambert being Tom Baker character and us lot being the Blackadder.
I often imagine Lamberts pre match tactics talks being something akin to General Melchet.
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There is 0 chance that Lerner is sitting in his bunker somewhere watching this shit week after week and thinking ''Gee, I see where this is going, this guy needs a damn payrise''.
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Arguably the finest training facilities in the country, and this is the result of all that lavish expense. A team with no composure, no quality and no guts. Even this team are better than this. Lambert, sort it out or do the right thing, admit you're out of your depth, and walk.
Not a prayer. Currently discussing pay rise.
Fucking pathetic management, that.
I honestly would like the whole lot of them to fuck off. What a bunch of amateurs.
Agreed. Which is why the only hope I now see for Aston Villa is a takeover. It doesn't matter how much money will be made available again, it won't be used intelligently or effectively.
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I don't know. Every time I get some excitement and belief about a game this happens.
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Take off Bennett and bring on KEA. At the very least he's a midfielder.
I'm not sure I'd agree with your assessment of KEA there mate! ;)
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This side will be relegated, if Lambert cannot pull something out we will dive into the bottom three we are that bad.Westwood is shit, sorry but he is but tonight he has a lot of mates.
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Looks like it's the same line up
Hope I'm wrong but I think it's a big mistake. Cardiff's ascendancy was growing and growing. What was our best chance? Benteke header blocked?
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I'm a Westwood fan but he's been very poor again this match. Not that he's helped out at all in any way by our Stone Age tactics and set-up.
Oh please! He plays like this every single game! He's an appalling footballer who is out of his depth in the PL.
I disagree. I'm sorry every time someone disagrees with you that you vent forth some Ohing and Ahing ejaculation like a swooning Dame in a Regency novel.
Keep on deluding yourself mate. You've been doing it since Lambert took over.
If you're suggesting that Monty is somehow overly pro-Lambert, you clearly don't read what he writes.
Wind it in now.
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"Relegation rivals." Cries. Again.
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Lambert's settled for a draw :P
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We played well at Liverpool, playing 4-3-3 why aren't we doing that here?
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Benteke's layoffs are really poor.
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I'm a Westwood fan but he's been very poor again this match. Not that he's helped out at all in any way by our Stone Age tactics and set-up.
Oh please! He plays like this every single game! He's an appalling footballer who is out of his depth in the PL.
I disagree. I'm sorry every time someone disagrees with you that you vent forth some Ohing and Ahing ejaculation like a swooning Dame in a Regency novel.
Keep on deluding yourself mate. You've been doing it since Lambert took over.
If you're suggesting that Monty is somehow overly pro-Lambert, you clearly don't read what he writes.
Wind it in now.
No, YOU wind it in just like PWS has requested.
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Lambert's settled for a draw :P
I'd take that if I'm being honest.
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At least the Bitters went one down on the stroke of HT.
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We go again. No subs.
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I'm a Westwood fan but he's been very poor again this match. Not that he's helped out at all in any way by our Stone Age tactics and set-up.
Oh please! He plays like this every single game! He's an appalling footballer who is out of his depth in the PL.
I disagree. I'm sorry every time someone disagrees with you that you vent forth some Ohing and Ahing ejaculation like a swooning Dame in a Regency novel.
Keep on deluding yourself mate. You've been doing it since Lambert took over.
If you're suggesting that Monty is somehow overly pro-Lambert, you clearly don't read what he writes.
Wind it in now.
What on earth are you on about? Genuinely, I don't have a clue what you're getting at.
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Gabby and benteke have both been awful. Not great service and even worse touch
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McAllister (or is it McCallister?) saying how we need to stop our long diagonal balls to Benteke. Everyone can see it.
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goood little move
albrighton good
westwood poor again
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I'm a Westwood fan but he's been very poor again this match. Not that he's helped out at all in any way by our Stone Age tactics and set-up.
Oh please! He plays like this every single game! He's an appalling footballer who is out of his depth in the PL.
I disagree. I'm sorry every time someone disagrees with you that you vent forth some Ohing and Ahing ejaculation like a swooning Dame in a Regency novel.
Keep on deluding yourself mate. You've been doing it since Lambert took over.
If you're suggesting that Monty is somehow overly pro-Lambert, you clearly don't read what he writes.
I was going to say.
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McAllister (or is it McCallister?) saying how we need to stop our long diagonal balls to Benteke. Everyone can see it.
Even Gary McAllister.
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Nice play from Albrighton.
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This is better; we are creating space and moving for each other...
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Westwood....
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Haven't really paid a great deal of attention tonight, but I'm not surprised to see we're aiming for second best again.
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How we doing?
A bit better start to the 2nd half.
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McAllister (or is it McCallister?) saying how we need to stop our long diagonal balls to Benteke. Everyone can see it.
Yep, except the person who matters.
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Unable to keep possession, bloody useless
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I'm a Westwood fan but he's been very poor again this match. Not that he's helped out at all in any way by our Stone Age tactics and set-up.
Oh please! He plays like this every single game! He's an appalling footballer who is out of his depth in the PL.
I disagree. I'm sorry every time someone disagrees with you that you vent forth some Ohing and Ahing ejaculation like a swooning Dame in a Regency novel.
Keep on deluding yourself mate. You've been doing it since Lambert took over.
If you're suggesting that Monty is somehow overly pro-Lambert, you clearly don't read what he writes.
Wind it in now.
What on earth are you on about? Genuinely, I don't have a clue what you're getting at.
Seems you are as clueless as the people running our club...
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Look on the bright side...I bet their fans will be gutted if they don't beat us...Laughable...Cardiff gutted they can,t beat us.
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One of those game we'll be shocked if we score.
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One thing I have noticed is, our away support is near silent.
If he loses the away support, he's going to find it difficult to win them back.
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If we're gonna score it's going to come from out wide. Come on for feck sake!
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Alby has rediscovered his crossing hasn't he? Loving his enthusiasm and determination
They're defending benteke in the box very well
I think we really do need to try and win this though, given our upcoming fixtures and home form, this is one of our more winnable remaining games.
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Come on - a lucky 1-0 will do.
Sounds utterly shit reading this though. I am wondering whether to watch any of the many TV games coming soon
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I'd bring Gabby off for Weimann and take Bennett off for El-Ahmadi and go for 4-3-3.
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It will help us today that they've got two bobbins strikers up front. Jones is a poor player.
(Cue him scoring now).
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Has Gabby done anything tonight yet?
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Wow, playing thru the midfield there. It can be done...
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Got to be the most misguided 'wind it in' comment I've ever read.
Also, we're shit. As per.
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Delph, with better players around him, would be considerably better than he already is.
As it is, he's inevitably surrounded by joke options.
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I have really tried to support and be positive about our manager. I don't want us to be a club that sacks manager after manager but fuck me Lambert...
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started the same as first half
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Bit of pressure here. Better start.
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Yes, good start to the second half, certainly better.
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You have to sympathise with Lerner: not since ITV forked out all that money for Friends Reunited just before Facebook took off has so much been laid out for so little return.
But sympathies aside, I wish he'd do one.
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Has Gabby done anything tonight yet?
Nope, same as Saturday.
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I wouldn't have any problems with Lambert being sacked. He's had enough time to show he's not up to the job. But he's as likely to get sacked as we are to see Messi sign for us over the summer.
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We have produced barely anything.
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Lambert appears to have done the chest-pumping humming thing from Wolf of Wall Street as his half time team talk.
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You have to sympathise with Lerner: not since ITV forked out all that money for Friends Reunited just before Facebook took off has so much been laid out for so little return.
Truly the football equivalent of Murdoch paying $600m for MySpace.
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If we don't score in this first 10 minutes we'll fade and let in one goal
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I've lost count the amount of times Westwood has lost the ball.
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Has Gabby done anything tonight yet?
Nope, same as Saturday.
But he's undroppable
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You have to sympathise with Lerner: not since ITV forked out all that money for Friends Reunited just before Facebook took off has so much been laid out for so little return.
But sympathies aside, I wish he'd do one.
I don't care who we bring in as manager as long as we have this owner we will struggle. We have been on a downward spiral for years and that is the fault of Randy.
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mcallister
they have to keep calm and try and play their football
what f**king football
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Why can we only play long passes? you need movement and short passing to create chances.
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I think Westwood has started the second half well
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mcallister
they have to keep calm and try and play their football
what f**king football
He should manage us.
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Is this a friendly
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Has Gabby done anything tonight yet?
Nope, same as Saturday.
But he's undroppable
Drop him for whom though?
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Great shot then of the Brains Trust staring forlornly into the middle distance.
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That was better Westwood, quick short passes. Much better, try more of that.
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Has Gabby done anything tonight yet?
Nope, same as Saturday.
But he's undroppable
Drop him for whom though?
Holt...
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Looking better Villa.
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cardiff are rubbish to be fair
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Just watched a shot of Ian Culverhouse. Totally disinterested and blowing bubbles with gum. Get the fcuk out of my club you tw*t. W*nker. At least Lambert was watching proceedings.
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Great shot then of the Brains Trust staring forlornly into the middle distance.
Best quote of the night...
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We're getting on top here, because we're passing short. LEARN LAMBERT!
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May be my internet connection, but the BT Sport picture is static more often than not.
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Good spell this half
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You have to sympathise with Lerner: not since ITV forked out all that money for Friends Reunited just before Facebook took off has so much been laid out for so little return.
But sympathies aside, I wish he'd do one.
I don't care who we bring in as manager as long as we have this owner we will struggle. We have been on a downward spiral for years and that is the fault of Randy.
Lerner's main fault is he's employed piss poor managers. They've had the money, just not used it well enough
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Take Gabby off please for Weimann.
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I would certainly look at putting Holt up front with Benteke and putting Gabby on the left. There has been some decent service tonight, but nobody attacking the ball in the middle.
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Better Villa. Lets have a goal.
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Come on, Villa, we're the better side this half.
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May be my internet connection, but the BT Sport picture is static more often than not.
No thats us...
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May be my internet connection, but the BT Sport picture is static more often than not.
Same here. It's just like their ad
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Another decent chance from a good move
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lay it to benteke you plonk
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Just square it Bacuna, for fucks sake.
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I'm thinking of breaking into Bodymoor Heath and adding a sticker with "YOU'RE HAVING A LAUGH" after the PL on Lambert's tracksuit.
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Fuck sake Bacuna. That should have been a Benteke goal!
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Great move. Unlucky.
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Cardiff look like they've settled for a point. Bacuna instantly looks more effective when getting forward...We look like we've gone 3-5-2...
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Short passing creates it again though, but Bacuna was far too selfish.
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Benteke is making no effort to attack half chances. May as well get Holt on for him, KEA for Bennett, go 433.
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Cardiff are as brittle as us. We can beat them.
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I like the way alby is playing, though this match has been a bit of a microcosm of his career
Start really well, full of pace and enthusiasm, then get found out a bit and start running into blind alleys because there's not enough variety to his game.
Bacuna should have crossed there. Better half though, no question. But Bennett still doing nowt
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Defence much better this half.
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cardiff are down
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This is the point in a game where you need to be able to bring on someone when you're on top to create the scoring opportunity. We only have huffers and puffers.
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Cardiff are as brittle as us. We can beat them.
The obvious conclusion to that is we can also lose to them.
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Gabby will score.
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We need to win this game.
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Benteke is making no effort to attack half chances. May as well get Holt on for him, KEA for Bennett, go 433.
He is playing like someone who don't give a shit.
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Cardiff look like they've settled for a point. Bacuna instantly looks more effective when getting forward...We look like we've gone 3-5-2...
Um, not from where I'm sitting! Our defence is as square as it gets.
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Just watched a shot of Ian Culverhouse. Totally disinterested and blowing bubbles with gum. Get the fcuk out of my club you tw*t. W*nker. At least Lambert was watching proceedings.
I noticed that, except Lambert's look was utter bafflement. The pair are clueless and careless.
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This game is absolutely there for the taking if we want it. Or if we know how to take it.
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If we had kozak i could consider him for benteke. But not holt
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We need to score while we're on top.
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where the f**k is Whittingham
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Are Gabby and Benteke carrying injuries?
Both looked po on Saturday and are both lacking something tonight as well.
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Bennett out of position.
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We're doing much better. I'd like Weimann coming off the left flank instead of Bennett
And we've definitely got scope to concede
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Cardiff look like they've settled for a point. Bacuna instantly looks more effective when getting forward...We look like we've gone 3-5-2...
Um, not from where I'm sitting! Our defence is as square as it gets.
No you're right. That was just Bacuna getting forward a bit. He still looks most effective further up the field...
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There are only 6 points between us.
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We just badly lack quality, we should but I can't see us winning this.
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Fuck me, he barley touched him.
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The service has been there. Benteke and Agbonlahor just aren't firing. Weimann has to come on.
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FFS Benteke
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Should've shot first time.
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Good block but Benteke was burying them last season
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FFS Benteke
On reviewing, a bit harsh
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Too slow tekkers
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Gabby and Benteke have been really poor.
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Bacuna - just fuck off
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Weimann for Bennett.
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Weimann on. Come on Villa we can win this!
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this is painful, they are shit and we ain't much better.
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Weimann on in left midfield?
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Can we please stop blasting over when we have 7 oayers waiting for a cross! ARRGHHH! Use your fucking heads!
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Good
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Should've shot first time.
Not enough on the pass but great move. We're on top and Weimann's on. We need goals and we need them sharpish.
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Weimann coming on I think
We're doing much better but they're defending the box very well
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We are well on top here, but we need to open them up and stick it right up them.
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Yes...good substitution...I guess we'll go 4-3-3 now?
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Franco Baresi is having a good game. Oh sorry, I meant it's Ben Turner.
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We are well on top here, but we need to open them up and stick it right up them.
Agreed. This is there for the taking we are smashing them atm.
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Turner has been excellent for them.
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Coaching for a multi million pound salary means waving your hands palms up shouting Come On. In a padded jacket. To whom should I send my CV and covering letter?
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Franco Baresi is having a good game. Oh sorry, I meant it's Ben Turner.
He looks quite good.
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Uh oh, stream death.
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On the plus side, it's a relief to see OGS doesn't have the Midas touch.
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Their defence much quicker to the ball than Villa
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Turner has been brilliant for them
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We are well on top here, but we need to open them up and stick it right up them.
Bacuna's quality is sometimes just nowhere to be seen.
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Coaching for a multi million pound salary means waving your hands palms up shouting Come On. In a padded jacket. To whom should I send my CV and covering letter?
I dunno. Somewhere in America isn't it?
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gaabby so poor
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Gabby - what the fuck??!?!?
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FFS Gabby couldn't trap a bag of cement at the minute
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Gabby has been fucking atrocious.
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Gabby and Benteke have been shit.
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Even though we're much improved this half, Benteke doesn't look like he's fully there.
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Our defence is so shaky, one bit of pressure and they are all over the place.
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two championship sides they both look
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On the BBC sports page, there's a rather angry looking photo of Big Sam.
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Fucking hell gabby. A half decent touch and we're in there
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Westwood slow on the break there.
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Holt could win us a match like this, more likely than Benteke. Until Baker or Bennett slip up and lose it for us.
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I think we've missed our chance now.
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Just the sense of a momentum shift. Arrest it Villa.
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"We're not very good." Repeat ad nauseum.
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I think we've missed our chance now.
I'm thinking of going for a goal shit.
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I just cant see us keeping a clean sheet.
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How are we not beating rubbish like these?
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Baker. What a lump. How a professional footballer can have no footballing skills in beyond me.
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Vlaar limping. Hamstring again?
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two championship sides they both look
Even Yoda thinks we're down!
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We're running out of steam and giving the ball away too much, are we going to lose by a late goal
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Every time we have a throw in we'd be better off letting them have it cos we just play ourselves into trouble
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I think we've missed our chance now.
I'm thinking of going for a goal shit.
Hope your aim is better than these fuckers...
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Coaching for a multi million pound salary means waving your hands palms up shouting Come On. In a padded jacket. To whom should I send my CV and covering letter?
Do you think FIFA experience would help? I've won the quadruple on world class...
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If this season goes tits up I fear for us in the championship.
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Unlucky Delph.
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gabbys fucking touch is awful
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Fucking Marshall saves them.
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Gabby - you useless fucker.
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deflection made it harder
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Great shot Delph. Good save
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Gabby - what's going on with your first touch??!
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If this season goes tits up I fear for us in the championship.
This isn't a squad you would bet on coming straight back up...
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That would have been dead spawny. Good save though.
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Is there a delay on BT Sport? The play sometimes seems to be behind what Ian Dowie's saying on Sky.
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We have been the only team in it in the second half.
I still suspect 85 minutes onwards we'll be hanging on for grim life, though
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Great save... git.
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I have been following the thread; I am waiting for "Bollocks!"
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Great save from Delph
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Our throw ins are like scotlands line outs....shit
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Lambert just been off for a shit.
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mcallister
Villa have been excellent
is he lamberts best mate
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What don't we play like this for a while game?
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Just fucking win Villa.
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Again. Baker. What a non-footballer. How can you not kick it forward or to a team mate. Ever.
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Lambert just been off for a shit.
we played ok when he was shitting
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Coaching for a multi million pound salary means waving your hands palms up shouting Come On. In a padded jacket. To whom should I send my CV and covering letter?
Do you think FIFA experience would help? I've won the quadruple on world class...
Certainly. Lambo does not even know any 4 syllable words.
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Is Delph mixed race (Asian & black?)
Not that it matters, just struck me he looks a bit Asian.
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Come on villa, one goal will win this.
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We have been good in the second half. We've been thwarted by some very good defending and some poor choices. But we've been the better side by some distance. Just need that one chance
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Coaching for a multi million pound salary means waving your hands palms up shouting Come On. In a padded jacket. To whom should I send my CV and covering letter?
Do you think FIFA experience would help? I've won the quadruple on world class...
Certainly. Lambo does not even know any 4 syllable words.
Technically, he thinks 'wegoagain' is a single word.
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Good to see Cardiff can pass like Villa
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Gabby you twat.
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fuck offf gabby
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Gabby you fucking useless bastard, Benteke put it on a plate.
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Gabby FFS!!!!
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fuck, hit it....
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first time you fucking mug
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GET THAT USELSS TWAT OFF. GABBY IS FUCKING SHIT.
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Mahoosive wide open spaces between our lines. Sheesh. Monty must be burying his head in his hands.
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Shit Gabby
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Oh FFS. HAD TO SCORE.
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Coaching for a multi million pound salary means waving your hands palms up shouting Come On. In a padded jacket. To whom should I send my CV and covering letter?
Do you think FIFA experience would help? I've won the quadruple on world class...
Certainly. Lambo does not even know any 4 syllable words.
Technically, he thinks 'wegoagain' is a single word.
There you go again defending Lambert.
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why the fuck didnt he hit it -
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FFS Gabby. How much time do you need
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I can't work out what our formation is now. We're just looking like an amorphous blob. An amorphous blob that keeps lumping diagonal crosses forward to no-one in particular...
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Is Delph mixed race (Asian & black?)
Not that it matters, just struck me he looks a bit Asian.
So what? Why post something like that? What exactly does it matter?
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Dude in the Villa end there with a fantastic Kid 'n Play fro
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Just absolutely terrible.
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Oh for fuck sake Gabby!
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Fuck me Gabby, that was atrocious
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Just fucking win Villa.
Not with finishing like that. Twatting hell gabby
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why do you need to control it
hit it you brainless plonker
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Jesus Christ gabby that's shocking. That had to be a goal. That was the chance. And that's why you're not an England player, even though I love you
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Gabby for England!
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The last thing I want is Gabby taken off because he is getting into those positions. He's been poor in terms of his decision making but he's been a threat. It will come good. Have faith.
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FFS Gabby. How much time do you need
I think that was it....
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That was the chance. Think we should have taken Gabby off. Straight swap for Weimann.
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cows arse and banjo come to mind
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Lad in the crowd then clearly mouthed 'WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT' ;D
Fuck me that was shit.
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Nice cross ryan
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Weiman should've shot.
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10 minutes, COME ON VILLA FFS
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Is Delph mixed race (Asian & black?)
Not that it matters, just struck me he looks a bit Asian.
So what? Why post something like that? What exactly does it matter?
Something like what? Off topic? Why not?
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There's gonna be a late goal in this.
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Whats going on with these forwards, don't they want to shoot
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west ham are winning
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ONG
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why we cant beat these
west ham 1 norwuci 0
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Our front 2 have had enough opportunity to win this comfortably. Benteke and Gabby look half soaked.
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Chance after chance.
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FOR FUCKS SAKE!!
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Spammers winning...
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Weimann should have lobbed that
Delph and especially Westwood have been great in this second half, even though I'm sure most people will completely ignore westwood's contribution
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Is Delph mixed race (Asian & black?)
Not that it matters, just struck me he looks a bit Asian.
So what? Why post something like that? What exactly does it matter?
Something like what? Off topic? Why not?
What does the colour of his skin matter?
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West Ham 1 Norridge 0
Above us now. Shows how mental the bottom half of the table is.
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The ineptitude at the business end of the pitch is jaw dropping. From both sides, thankfully.
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cardiff dont do clean sheets
until they paly Villa
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Benteke has played like the bassist in the Wailers playing in a Jamaican beach bar after a day long smoking session. Surely, Holt is there for occasions like this.
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Frustrating aint the word...
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I can't watch these last 5 mins.
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Is Delph mixed race (Asian & black?)
Not that it matters, just struck me he looks a bit Asian.
So what? Why post something like that? What exactly does it matter?
Something like what? Off topic? Why not?
What does the colour of his skin matter?
I'm not talking about the colour of his skin I'm talking about his ethnicity.
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Happy with a point?
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I would have put holt on for him half hour ago.
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We're in the shit now Wet Spam are winning if we lose this
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Cardiff are shit and we cant beat them...
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Is Delph mixed race (Asian & black?)
Not that it matters, just struck me he looks a bit Asian.
So what? Why post something like that? What exactly does it matter?
Something like what? Off topic? Why not?
What does the colour of his skin matter?
I'm not talking about the colour of his skin I'm talking about his ethnicity.
He 'looks a bit Asian'.
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Benteke has played like the bassist in the Wailers playing in a Jamaican beach bar after a day long smoking session. Surely, Holt is there for occasions like this.
I'd be willing to bet that the Family Man would have put in a better shift than Benteke tonight.
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Cardiff are shit and we cant beat them...
We can, just seemingly can't be arsed to put the ball in the net. Fuckers.
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He 'looks a bit Asian'.
Yeah...
If you've took my post as racist then I apologise cos it isn't meant to be. Don't see the issue with what I've posted tbh?
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Turner deserved motm
We've lacked the cutting edge and I think we really could have done with three points today
But lets not lose it stupidly now
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Benteke has played like the bassist in the Wailers playing in a Jamaican beach bar after a day long smoking session. Surely, Holt is there for occasions like this.
I'd be willing to bet that the Family Man would have put in a better shift than Benteke tonight.
Behind his man all night
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Gabby and Benteke have been utter shit tonight.
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Is Delph mixed race (Asian & black?)
Not that it matters, just struck me he looks a bit Asian.
So what? Why post something like that? What exactly does it matter?
Something like what? Off topic? Why not?
What does the colour of his skin matter?
I'm not talking about the colour of his skin I'm talking about his ethnicity.
Race? I thought such notions had been put to bed in the Seventies. What races are there apart from "human"?
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Cardiff are shit and we cant beat them...
We can, just seemingly can't be arsed to put the ball in the net. Fuckers.
Enough chances to win the next three games.
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got to be winning this
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none of our boys want to hit the back of the net tonight
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Soooo close
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I have and apology accepted.
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What save ffs.
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Fucking AAARRRGGGHH!!!!
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fuckk what a save
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Fucking hell, how did Marshall save that.
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What a save! Unlucky Weimann.
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How did he save that?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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It's. just. not. happening. this. evening.
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What a fucking save
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On a day when plenty of service is put into the area the strikers have a shit day.
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That goalie knew FUCK ALL about that. Nothing.
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keeper has kept cardiff in this big time
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we've given it everything and we've been done by a combination of shit finishing and an inspired keeper
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How the fuck did that bit go in
Wonderful save
Benteke hasn't been great but he's been a lot better than gabby
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How the hell did Marshall save the Delph and Weimann shots?
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thats it
two poor teams
should have taken our chances esp Gabbys
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Have to say that's a blinding save. Fooker.
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poor result
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Post match please folks.
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Race? I thought such notions had been put to bed in the Seventies. What races are there apart from "human"?
Dunno? I'm part Mexican. Wouldn't have an issue with someone saying I looked it.
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we've given it everything and we've been done by a combination of shit finishing and an inspired keeper
If that's limit of what we have to give then we're fucked. The skill level was abysmal.
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Race? I thought such notions had been put to bed in the Seventies. What races are there apart from "human"?
Dunno? I'm part Mexican. Wouldn't have an issue with someone saying I looked it.
You are confusing nationality with race. We are all the same : human race. There is only one.
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Race? I thought such notions had been put to bed in the Seventies. What races are there apart from "human"?
Dunno? I'm part Mexican. Wouldn't have an issue with someone saying I looked it.
You are confusing nationality with race. We are all the same : human race. There is only one.
Yeah I know what you're saying, just don't see why it's such an issue I asked about his ethnicity. I've apologised in case my post was taken as insinuating there is a point behind my question other than mere curiosity. It's not an issue at all.