Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on February 08, 2014, 07:29:40 PM
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It's highly likely that I won't be getting a season ticket in 2014-15 for the first time in around 16 years. What with the demise of the printed H&V fanzine (no requirement to sell any more), viagogo and the current cheap deal offers by the club I might as well do it on a single match basis thus saving money. Plus I won't have any wasted tickets when I go off on holiday. The insipid home performances I've witnessed over the last few seasons are also a factor.
Can't wait for 'the' telephone call...
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Excellent news! You're notoriously unlucky, so you jacking it in is bound to coincide with a rebuilt midfield firing us along wih sexy football.
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It's highly likely that I won't be getting a season ticket in 2014-15 for the first time in around 16 years. What with the demise of the printed H&V fanzine (no requirement to sell any more), viagogo and the current cheap deal offers by the club I might as well do it on a single match basis thus saving money. Plus I won't have any wasted tickets when I go off on holiday. The insipid home performances I've witnessed over the last few seasons are also a factor.
Can't wait for 'the' telephone call...
I am doing the same £13 pound tickets including booking fee on Viagogo is the way to go.
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Can't wait for 'the' telephone call...
Don't answer it. I didn't answer it.
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Excellent news! You're notoriously unlucky, so you jacking it in is bound to coincide with a rebuilt midfield firing us along wih sexy football.
2017-18.
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Sadly I feel the same Legion and I will miss where I sit but am just sick of seeing away teams taking the piss (and their fans)
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And to add I love the Villa but games like the West Brom one don't make up for far too many like today
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Sadly I feel the same Legion and I will miss where I sit but am just sick of seeing away teams taking the piss (and their fans)
Their fans were singing "How shit are you we lose every week".
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Sadly I'm planning on not renewing either.
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I probably won't be renewing. A large reason is H&V, as i'm nearly always skint selling the fanzine helped pay for it. Without that it gets harder to justify the expense. I'm also completely fed up of games being moved for TV. How crap we are doesn't really factor into it.
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Yes, the games being moved for TV is also an issue for me.
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I always feel like I can't be bothered with it anymore, but something in the back of my kind always thinks "what if next season is where we turn brilliant and win something???".
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I'm moving to London next month so that'll be it for me after 10 straight years. I can barely summon up the enthusiasm to travel 3 miles to watch us these days, let alone 100. Even if I wasn't moving I'd probably only pick a handful of games.
If we got rid of Lambert I would reconsider but that seems very unlikely at this point.
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The only reason that I'd renew is so that I can guarantee sitting next to the people around me. If it wasn't for the familiar friendly faces who become friends over the last few years then it would have been even more depressing.
Lambert staying is enough to put anyone off.
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Excellent news! You're notoriously unlucky, so you jacking it in is bound to coincide with a rebuilt midfield firing us along wih sexy football.
Innit
Anyone else and I'd have shrugged it off, but as it's Legion, I've just booked a hotel room for Cup Final weekend.
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I WILL be renewing.
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Last time I renewed was back in 77/78 when I had a standing season ticket for the Holte end. ;)
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On a practical level I don't need to renew again and as a "protest" I won't - tickets readily available on Viagogo from those mugs (me) who get ST's and there is little chance of a Cup Final appearance soon.
Stourbridge won 4-1 today - I'm just a gloryhunter
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This is why I questioned why we still get 36000 for home games. We are not warranting much more than 28000 at the moment, with most of them being mugs like me.
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I always feel like I can't be bothered with it anymore, but something in the back of my kind always thinks "what if next season is where we turn brilliant and win something???".
That kind of happened to me, I packed up in 99 then we got to fa cup final. Then in 2009 I stopped again and they got to the 2010 final, sadly they lost both
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All the people I used to go with have stopped going (I must change my deodorant) and I've begun to wonder why I bother when it's not enjoyable, but if I didn't go I'd only be glued to the radio/internet wanting to know what was happening for the whole 90 minutes so I will doubtless still be there next year.
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The reason we are all debating this is the desperate fair we are served up every time we go.
A half decent home record we could probably all accept but it's been absolutely dreadful for 3 seasons and it's getting worse.The only influence we have is not renewing our ST or for those who pay on the day to stay away.i don't want to do that as I love the Villa,but when it looked like Lerner might keep McLeish on and the ticket office were phoning us I made it clear that I would only renew when he'd gone.It has now got to the same stage with Lambert.
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The reason we are all debating this is the desperate fair we are served up every time we go.
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Sums it up for me too. Son now working most Saturadys and its easy to get tickets if we want to go to a midweek or Sunday game. There are better things I can spend £1000 on (plus the parking / holte suite entrance fees / food / wasted bets on top).
I'll still go but at least it'll be on my terms.
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For me, giving up my season ticket was the beginning of the end. The matches I went to became less and less until none at all. When you haven't already paid you're much less obliged to go. I save a lot of money. I still watch every game live sitting in my front room. On the off chance of us reaching the FA cup final I know I will raid the savings to pay a tout or beg a ticket on social internet sites.
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I used to really look forward to games, having a few pints etc... now it feels like a chore. I'm also reluctant to go at times. It's just how depressing everything to do with Villa has become. We're really fading into a mediocre club.
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I still enjoy the walk from the car park, seeing the stadium in the distance, buying the fanzine, love going through the turnstile up the steps till the inside of VP comes into view, players warming up, having a chat about how today could be different, we then kick off and the reality clicks in.
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I still enjoy the walk from the car park, seeing the stadium in the distance, buying the fanzine, love going through the turnstile up the steps till the inside of VP comes into view, players warming up, having a chat about how today could be different, we then kick off and the reality clicks in.
I'm sure there's plenty like you Steve who love the whole pre-match ritual. The club should sell tickets based around "the Match Day Experience" without having to watch the game, something like a sporting version of the Black Country Museum.
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I still enjoy the walk from the car park, seeing the stadium in the distance, buying the fanzine, love going through the turnstile up the steps till the inside of VP comes into view, players warming up, having a chat about how today could be different, we then kick off and the reality clicks in.
Only said this yesterday. Went into the Holte and had a couple of pints, watched the second half of the Sky game. Chatted and then took my seat 15 mins before ko.
Always sit and take in this wonderful stadium and remember the great times I have had - that's the problem though, it's all memories.
Then the match starts and spoils it.
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My nipper not renewing so that means i won't either - can't be arsed the fare served up is absolute garbage. I missed the Arsenal, Swansea and Sheff Utd games due to my bad knee
and i didn't miss it, watched the 2 x PL games on TV/ Live stream and i think that is what i will do in the future....damn sight cheaper as well.
I think i have had a ST for just over 40 years so will be a wrench especially the pre & post match ales and chat.....
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I still enjoy the walk from the car park, seeing the stadium in the distance, buying the fanzine, love going through the turnstile up the steps till the inside of VP comes into view, players warming up, having a chat about how today could be different, we then kick off and the reality clicks in.
Same for me. Can't be bothered with the Norwich game now (don't like the late kick off time for a start) and not sure on the Chelsea game even though I have tickets.
There is no real incentive to go other than loyalty really.
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It's the TV for me. There is no point me having a ST as I live too far away and work regular weekends. I had pencilled in the Norwich and Chelsea games with my Son but moved day and time so I cannot go. That really p***es me off as watching on TV is not quite the same (although the frustration always surfaces!).
I would love to have a ST and it one of things I may get when I retire!
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It's a funny business being a football supporter. I can perfectly understand people getting fed up and deciding that there are better ways to spend their time and money and yet at the same time 'fair-weather fan' is a grievous insult and "only sing when you're winning" is heard every week up and down the country.
As I said I understand it and no criticism is implied but it just goes to show what a complex relationship we have with the game in general and our club in particular.
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It's a funny business being a football supporter. I can perfectly understand people getting fed up and deciding that there are better ways to spend their time and money and yet at the same time 'fair-weather fan' is a grievous insult and "only sing when you're winning" is heard every week up and down the country.
As I said I understand it and no criticism is implied but it just goes to show what a complex relationship we have with the game in general and our club in particular.
No criticism taken Chris - it reminds me of my first love, the one you think is The One - even today 40 years later I sometimes wonder what it would have been like to spend my life with her and I have a real heartache - I think this is how I will eventually experience the Villa - looking at the results and wondering what it might be like to be there - and then realise they've lost at home again...
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It's a funny business being a football supporter. I can perfectly understand people getting fed up and deciding that there are better ways to spend their time and money and yet at the same time 'fair-weather fan' is a grievous insult and "only sing when you're winning" is heard every week up and down the country.
As I said I understand it and no criticism is implied but it just goes to show what a complex relationship we have with the game in general and our club in particular.
It's a fair point but in this day and age where football tickets now cost more than a tenner it's justifiable for people not to be questioned if they decide not to blindly fork out.
How many games in the last three season at home can you say genuinely were worth the admission price? WBA the other week was one but I'm struggling to get over five so eventually people's patience would be wearing thing.
Our attendances have held up remarkably well I think. Not sure what our lowest attendance has bene so far in the league but it's stayed around 36k for most of this season.
That said I do think Norwich will be pretty low, low 30s.
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Attendances have been remarkable considering the tripe served up. This is largely due to relatively cheap tickets (ticket deals for multiple matches) but primarily because we must have a large season ticket holding compared with previous seasons. I'm guessing but this was probably due to the again relative good form at home post Christmas last year and the belief we had turned the corner and this season would be a continuation of better fortunes.
This has not been realised and season ticket sales will dramatically fall for next season. Should we both be in the PL next year expect the attendance to be around 27k. I just don't think the club realise this as they seem to be in another world when they talk about performances and results (Faulkner and Lambert).
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It is astonishing that we average 36k after the crap served up at home in the previous 4 calendar years. Utter shite for the large part. Even O'Neills last match was a turgid 1-0 loss to Blackburn
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I travelled down yesterday for the game..got in the pub for about.12 and when it came to 200pm i found myself for the first time ever not bothering to go, and i stayed in the pub and watched the Rugby instead..and for the first time ever i didnt miss being there.My apathy is more to do with football in general and not us being crap,but i have already decided that i wont be renewing again.
Again like others il pick my games next season when the tickets are value for money, and maybe if i go to less games, i might look forward to going to Villa Park again and not see it as a chore.
Id never thought id have a life without football everyweek, but its now a sport ive fallen out of love with.
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Excellent news! You're notoriously unlucky, so you jacking it in is bound to coincide with a rebuilt midfield firing us along wih sexy football.
Innit
Anyone else and I'd have shrugged it off, but as it's Legion, I've just booked a hotel room for Cup Final weekend.
Where is the 2016 Champions League final?
I will renew. I take my son and this is only my third year of having a season ticket again after a fifteen year gap due to having jobs where I had to work weekends.
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I've banged on about this many times before, but the club really needs to start looking after season ticket holders when games are live on the box. My suggestion would be some kind of rebate off the following season's season ticket for every live home tv game we've made the effort to changes our plans for and still attend - when the increasingly more attractive and cheaper option is to watch in the warmth of a pub or your living room.
Clubs take in a fortune from TV and it's time some of this was diverted to the fans for playing their part in the show.
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Me and my brother have been going for 5 years straight and now we're packing it in. It is a chore now, and a lot of the time I am genuinely embarrassed by how we play. I only live 15 minutes away as well, but I'm done.
I still know a few season ticket holders who don't go to away games, so I'll just use their numbers and go to 5/6 away games. I much prefer away games. It's all a bit shit isn't it?
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I plan to renew but next season is the last chance under this regime.
If we are still woeful at home by way of style of football and results, I'll be packing in my ST until Lerner goes and probably just go to the odd game here and there.
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It's highly likely that I won't be getting a season ticket in 2014-15 for the first time in around 16 years. What with the demise of the printed H&V fanzine (no requirement to sell any more), viagogo and the current cheap deal offers by the club I might as well do it on a single match basis thus saving money. Plus I won't have any wasted tickets when I go off on holiday. The insipid home performances I've witnessed over the last few seasons are also a factor.
Can't wait for 'the' telephone call...
I know the feeling, said to my brother that I'd be more likely to renew if we get relegated I think, at least it would be a bit of a change. Our seasons feel monotonous at that moment, always crap at home and trying to cling to Premier League survival. We are not Coventry City.
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One of the reasons i have always had a season ticket is because of us reaching a cup final and being sure of a ticket. Now we don't even bother to compete in either cup as in Lambert's words it is "a distraction" So i will not be renewing
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Wonder if they will drop the price if we go down being as they have a habbit of releasing prices very early.
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It's highly likely that I won't be getting a season ticket in 2014-15 for the first time in around 16 years. What with the demise of the printed H&V fanzine (no requirement to sell any more), viagogo and the current cheap deal offers by the club I might as well do it on a single match basis thus saving money. Plus I won't have any wasted tickets when I go off on holiday. The insipid home performances I've witnessed over the last few seasons are also a factor.
Can't wait for 'the' telephone call...
I know the feeling, said to my brother that I'd be more likely to renew if we get relegated I think, at least it would be a bit of a change. Our seasons feel monotonous at that moment, always crap at home and trying to cling to Premier League survival. We are not Coventry City.
Would you bother if we went down and kept Lambert in charge considering his record with us vs lower division teams?
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It's highly likely that I won't be getting a season ticket in 2014-15 for the first time in around 16 years. What with the demise of the printed H&V fanzine (no requirement to sell any more), viagogo and the current cheap deal offers by the club I might as well do it on a single match basis thus saving money. Plus I won't have any wasted tickets when I go off on holiday. The insipid home performances I've witnessed over the last few seasons are also a factor.
Can't wait for 'the' telephone call...
I know the feeling, said to my brother that I'd be more likely to renew if we get relegated I think, at least it would be a bit of a change. Our seasons feel monotonous at that moment, always crap at home and trying to cling to Premier League survival. We are not Coventry City.
Would you bother if we went down and kept Lambert in charge considering his record with us vs lower division teams?
Hehe
Better than if it was O'Leary, who would be claiming "we can't compete with the Yeovil's of this world".
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It's a slippery slope....I gave up about eight years ago, fed up with TV schedules/SKY. The realities of the distance and family life played a part too. My wife gave up her Bolton season ticket at the same time, not too painful you'd think, but she'd had for the best part of thirty years.
I now make it to a handful of games every season. I had the pleasure of Swansea at home this season, last season I saw Wigan at home, both over Christmas. Both games were absolute eye watering dross, that poor I couldn't even muster anger.
It hurts like hell - the longing to bottle time - especially the match day ritual, meeting up with friends, memories of the old Trinity down the years.....but watching those two 'matches' convinced me that feeling slightly out of place at a home game means I'm free, I've managed to kick the habit. Almost.
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It's a slippery slope....I gave up about eight years ago, fed up with TV schedules/SKY. The realities of the distance and family life played a part too. My wife gave up her Bolton season ticket at the same time, not too painful you'd think, but she'd had for the best part of thirty years.
I now make it to a handful of games every season. I had the pleasure of Swansea at home this season, last season I saw Wigan at home, both over Christmas. Both games were absolute eye watering dross, that poor I couldn't even muster anger.
It hurts like hell - the longing to bottle time - especially the match day ritual, meeting up with friends, memories of the old Trinity down the years.....but watching those two 'matches' convinced me that feeling slightly out of place at a home game means I'm free, I've managed to kick the habit. Almost.
The constant changing of dates and kick off times was the main reason I gave my season ticket up too- working shifts it became no longer worth the money as I couldn't get to certain games and to be honest I have great respect for those who have had to put up every game with what we've dished up at home under lambert especially .
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Frightening stuff but only to be expected. I remember hearing someone saying about 20 years ago that clubs would eventually have to pay fans to attend a game to create an atmosphere and you do wonder sometimes if that might come to fruition one day! I've always been amazed so many people turn up at lots of grounds in the Premier League considering 9/10ths of the division hasn't a hope of really winning anything. It's just a case of who can buy the league now and the skills of managers in putting together a decent team don't really come into it any more - long gone are the days when the likes of Ipswich, ourselves, Southampton, Leeds, West Brom, Nottingham Forest et al could mount a challenge at the top end of the table. I know it's absolute madness to want to see us relegated but I can see the temptation of the 'big club in the Championship' and the excitement of taking lots of fans to away games etc. It would actually (and bizarrely) rekindle my desire to go. And yes, I know we might do a Wolves or a Leeds or a Forest but I just crave some bloody excitement, anything to relieve the tedium of where we are now. I used to love the swashbuckling style of the team back in the day and the huge followings away from home and I think I'd almost swap that now for this meaningless crap we are mired in. Plus we might get rid of 'our' (hardly) don't care owner and can't manage manager
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I think our support is pretty poor in comparison to clubs of a similar size, who have been infinetly less successful than we have over the past 50 years, such as Man City and Newcastle.
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240 mile round trip for our home games is becoming very boring and depressing as we know that when we get there we are likely to stink Villa Park out...and I have been saying for a couple of seasons that a spell in the Championship would do us as fans some good, rekindle the flame for the team and the club....UTV
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It wouldn't do me, you or anybody else at Villa Park any good dropping into the Mickey Mouse leagues.
Not that we will mind.
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Eastie, I know, I'm not sure how my match going friends keep up the enthusiasm.
The arc of decline is steep, in such stark contrast to teams of the past, all with their strengths and weaknesses - but at least offering some great players, with spirit, entertainment and skill.
Perhaps those who see only a few games in flesh can offer a little perspective compared to those having their souls sucked every week. I'll always be proud to be Villa and am a positive supporter, but the quality on the pitch is so poor. At the Wigan game last Christmas I thought I'd entered an Villa Park in an alternative universe.
Agreed about the poor support City and Newcastle comparisons. I wonder why? Is it just in Brummies nature? Are fans from East Manchester or Newcastle more Parochial? Or less socially mobile?
Totally agree with Richard, in terms of fun and excitement in the modern game. Bottom line is competition.....we can't compete with the SKY 4/5 and that's that. I wish they would feck off to a glory hunters super league and let the rest of us try and WIN something. Obviously, not going to happen, but we can dream.
UTV
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It wouldn't do me, you or anybody else at Villa Park any good dropping into the Mickey Mouse leagues.
Not that we will mind.
your right, we won't go down.
....but it would be great to actually have a chance of winning something :)
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What's the point of winning something that is completely irrelevant?
It's like the rest of the 100 or 200 metres sprint field entering a Primary School sports day just to win something, as they will never beat Bolt.
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I said I wouldn't renew last season. I did. I've said many times (usually coming out of Villa Park) that I wont renew this season. I probably will though. While my old man is fit enough to climb the Witton Lane stairs I will keep going because I enjoy the matchday and his company. Just wish the Villa would put a smile on our faces more often.
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Giving the Norwich game a miss, just apathetic about things even though it's a very important game now.
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I think our support is pretty poor in comparison to clubs of a similar size, who have been infinetly less successful than we have over the past 50 years, such as Man City and Newcastle.
Really?
The truly staggering amount of dross that has been served up at Villa Park over the last few years and we still manage to regularly get crowds of over 35k. I'd say that was pretty remarkable support.
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I think our support is pretty poor in comparison to clubs of a similar size, who have been infinetly less successful than we have over the past 50 years, such as Man City and Newcastle.
Really?
The truly staggering amount of dross that has been served up at Villa Park over the last few years and we still manage to regularly get crowds of over 35k. I'd say that was pretty remarkable support.
Taking 2000 up to Newcastle for a Sunday lunchtime live on TV is pretty good support in my opinion.
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The early bird prices for season tickets lasted all of one year.
Christ knows what the board are going to do.I can't read them.
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I think our support is pretty poor in comparison to clubs of a similar size, who have been infinetly less successful than we have over the past 50 years, such as Man City and Newcastle.
Really?
The truly staggering amount of dross that has been served up at Villa Park over the last few years and we still manage to regularly get crowds of over 35k. I'd say that was pretty remarkable support.
Taking 2000 up to Newcastle for a Sunday lunchtime live on TV is pretty good support in my opinion.
Yes it was, many fans having to get up at 6am on a Sunday morning. I know there were free coaches but it's still a fantastic effort.
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The fans at this club are a huge asset to aston villa - the fans will be here long after randy, lambert and faulkner have gone - it is time for aston villa to give the fans a team worthy of this great club.
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The current regime is not capable of it though eastie.
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The current regime is not capable of it though eastie.
Lambert is not capable of it , with the finances of around £20m per summer many managers would have assembled a better squad though and got players playing to a system that worked - he has had more than enough chances and still seems tactically inept - time to get rid and put Sid in charge until the summer and then bring in someone like koeman.
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I think our support is pretty poor in comparison to clubs of a similar size, who have been infinetly less successful than we have over the past 50 years, such as Man City and Newcastle.
Really?
The truly staggering amount of dross that has been served up at Villa Park over the last few years and we still manage to regularly get crowds of over 35k. I'd say that was pretty remarkable support.
Well poor us ah? "The football is shite, its not fair Tom".
Put it into context; Newcastle recently averaged around 13000 more than that in the second division, Man City averaged that in the 3rd division just under 15 years ago, having spent the previous who knows how many years completely in the shadow of their neighbours. I wonder how fond they were of their football while they were sinking through the leagues?
We sit with so many advantages; we are located in one of the biggest urban conurbations in the UK, with an ability to draw support from several million people, with easy access to a few million more around that. We’re comfortably the biggest club for 80 to 100 miles in any direction, yet our home support has only ever been meh.
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And yet what have got to show for it a nice stadium?
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City averaged 28K in division 3. They went 18 years without managing an average of 30K.
Newcastle were 43K in div 2.
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City averaged 28K in division 3. They went 18 years without managing an average of 30K.
Newcastle were 43K in div 2.
The Gerodies managed to average more than our ground holds, despite being utter bobbins for large parts of the past 50 years. Man City pulled in just shy of 7k fans less than we currently manage. I accept that I hadn't accurately reported the figures, but I don't see how that changes the thrust of the argument.
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I can remember going to Geordie land,i don't think there was 20,000 there.
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The current regime is not capable of it though eastie.
Lambert is not capable of it , with the finances of around £20m per summer many managers would have assembled a better squad though and got players playing to a system that worked - he has had more than enough chances and still seems tactically inept - time to get rid and put Sid in charge until the summer and then bring in someone like koeman.
Not sure about Koeman tbh. But someone with a far better knowledge of the top flight game, be it from the Prem or other European leagues would be an advantage.
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The fact Newcastle fans were tied into multiple year season tickets probably helped. I can't remember the exact details but I was talking to a Newcastle fan at the time and he said their crowds were guaranteed to hold up well because of it.
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I can remember going to Geordie land,i don't think there was 20,000 there.
25 years ago maybe, back when attendances were low everywhere. They've been there a while now though. Whether they capitalised on good Sky coverage or not, they have been packing out their place for 20 years, stuck by them through a relegation and had 50,000 turn up for an early kick-off after losing 4 on the bounce.
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City averaged 28K in division 3. They went 18 years without managing an average of 30K.
Newcastle were 43K in div 2.
The Gerodies managed to average more than our ground holds, despite being utter bobbins for large parts of the past 50 years. Man City pulled in just shy of 7k fans less than we currently manage. I accept that I hadn't accurately reported the figures, but I don't see how that changes the thrust of the argument.
And we averaged 4K more than City did when we were in Div 3.
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And in between that time we had our most successful period as a club, we were relegated and what has happened since? Only once we have topped 40k on average in how many decades?
Lets be clear, my argument is that we're a much bigger and historically important club than Man City, but our home support is ordinary at best.
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Lets not forget that the city of Newcastle has only one team with a very large catchment area.
Birmingham on the other hand...................................Has only one team with a very large catchment area ;D
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Didn't Newcastle have a rennaisance in the 90s but in the late 80s/early 90s their crowds were less than 10k? I mean they were Birmingham City standard. We were singing the old "where were you when you were shit" chant at them.
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They averaged 17k a few seasons before getting into the top flight the year after football was invented.
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And were looking like staying that way until Wor Kev appeared and suddenly more than 10K never missed a game Jawdees suddenly remembered the way to the ground overnight.
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They averaged 17k a few seasons before getting into the top flight the year after football was invented.
Between the Keegan era's things dropped off significantly.
He was like the pied piper.
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It still remains one of few towns / cities where near enough everyone supports their local team. Burnley is another of them.
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It still remains one of few towns / cities where near enough everyone supports their local team. Burnley is another of them.
I suppose it helps that there's only one football club in Newcastle though.
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It still remains one of few towns / cities where near enough everyone supports their local team. Burnley is another of them.
I suppose it helps that there's only one football club in Newcastle though.
They could always support Man Utd or Chelsea. It doesn't stop millions of others.
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It still remains one of few towns / cities where near enough everyone supports their local team. Burnley is another of them.
I suppose it helps that there's only one football club in Newcastle though.
They could always support Man Utd or Chelsea. It doesn't stop millions of others.
They don't have so much of a cosmopolitan population in newcastle as many cities do - many pass their love of the toon through the generations - there are quite a few Geordies in the midlands and a lot came down from the colliery villages to work in the mines and stayed.
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It still remains one of few towns / cities where near enough everyone supports their local team. Burnley is another of them.
I suppose it helps that there's only one football club in Newcastle though.
They could always support Man Utd or Chelsea. It doesn't stop millions of others.
They don't have so much of a cosmopolitan population in newcastle as many cities do - many pass their love of the toon through the generations - there are quite a few Geordies in the midlands and a lot came down from the colliery villages to work in the mines and stayed.
A lot of Geordie coal miners moved to Staffordshire in the mid Eighties because it was the only place they could get pit work. Littleton pit in Rugely was mostly Geordies at that time.
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It still remains one of few towns / cities where near enough everyone supports their local team. Burnley is another of them.
I suppose it helps that there's only one football club in Newcastle though.
They could always support Man Utd or Chelsea. It doesn't stop millions of others.
They don't have so much of a cosmopolitan population in newcastle as many cities do - many pass their love of the toon through the generations - there are quite a few Geordies in the midlands and a lot came down from the colliery villages to work in the mines and stayed.
A lot of Geordie coal miners moved to Staffordshire in the mid Eighties because it was the only place they could get pit work. Littleton pit in Rugely was mostly Geordies at that time.
Many came down to the warwickshire area in the thirties for the mines too including my grandparents.
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I travel to Villa from south Northants (Towcester), a round trip of 130 miles, plus tickets, plus parking, programme, a copy of H&V etc etc. With three wins so far this season and not much more last season, it isn't the matchday experience I was quite offered by the General!! I once was a season ticket holder and would absolutely consider buying a new one. But the club is just so unattractive with the crap football and shocking excuses from the most unimaginative Manager that I have seen since Billy McBingo all those years ago. I will not purchase a season ticket next season. I live in an area where Man Utd, Liverpool and the two north London clubs are well supported. Villa just are not taken seriously. This is most depressing and I want the club to change this image.
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I'll still renew because what else could I be doing on a Saturday/Sunday afternoon, Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday evening? ........oh hang on a minute
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I'll renew, although if the fuckers but the prices up after the garbage we've witnessed this season I will be exceptionally annoyed.
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It still remains one of few towns / cities where near enough everyone supports their local team. Burnley is another of them.
I suppose it helps that there's only one football club in Newcastle though.
I've always thought that that "one city, one club" as some type of arse kissing myth. I work up in that area every 5 weeks, I have lots of clients in the North East. It takes about twenty-odd minutes drive from Newcastle to Sunderland. Even shorter from other so called Geordie strongholds such as the Whitley Bay/Tynemouth area.
Hardly stuck out in the middle of nowhere like, Plymouth or even Norwich.
Geordie propaganda.
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It still remains one of few towns / cities where near enough everyone supports their local team. Burnley is another of them.
I suppose it helps that there's only one football club in Newcastle though.
I've always thought that that "one city, one club" as some type of arse kissing myth. I work up in that area every 5 weeks, I have lots of clients in the North East. It takes about twenty-odd minutes drive from Newcastle to Sunderland. Even shorter from other so called Geordie strongholds such as the Whitley Bay/Tynemouth area.
Hardly stuck out in the middle of nowhere like, Plymouth or even Norwich.
Geordie propaganda.
How about Burnley then, being as Newcastle doesn't get your approval?
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I haven't missed a single home game - league or cup - since 1992, when I started taking my eldest son to games, but my patience has been stretched to breaking point with the dross currently being served up at Villa Park. Renewing next season will depend on two things - whether the friends I've sat with for years in the Upper Holte renew, and whether Paul Lambert has been relieved of his duties. If either of those scenarios happens I'll renew; if neither happens I'll be off. I'd miss my mates, I'd miss the best approach to a ground in football past Aston Hall with the Holte End emerging through the trees, I'd miss being part of something bigger than my day-to-day humdrum life. I wouldn't miss the crushing disappointment at the standard of football being served up by the greatest name in world football, I wouldn't miss the mumbling myopia of a manager clearly out of his depth, and I wouldn't miss being messed about by Sky and BT Sport moving kick-offs to silly o'clock every week to satisfy the armchair army. As others have said, going to games used to be a huge buzz, now it's a chore, or just another fix for a junkie who no longer gets any high from the drug.
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I think our support is pretty poor in comparison to clubs of a similar size, who have been infinetly less successful than we have over the past 50 years, such as Man City and Newcastle.
Really?
The truly staggering amount of dross that has been served up at Villa Park over the last few years and we still manage to regularly get crowds of over 35k. I'd say that was pretty remarkable support.
Well poor us ah? "The football is shite, its not fair Tom".
Put it into context; Newcastle recently averaged around 13000 more than that in the second division, Man City averaged that in the 3rd division just under 15 years ago, having spent the previous who knows how many years completely in the shadow of their neighbours. I wonder how fond they were of their football while they were sinking through the leagues?
We sit with so many advantages; we are located in one of the biggest urban conurbations in the UK, with an ability to draw support from several million people, with easy access to a few million more around that. We’re comfortably the biggest club for 80 to 100 miles in any direction, yet our home support has only ever been meh.
Your Tom Ross reference is pretty pathetic, so I'll be the better man and let that go.
Do you think home performances have been good over the last few seasons? Or that the fans should swallow any old shite and keep paying through the nose for the privilege?
My point is that a hell of a lot of people are doing just that. We have turned into perennial relegation candidates, and are still attracting large home crowds, who have in particular been very patient with Lambert.
Newcastle's support is not really a fair comparison to draw. We are the biggest club within the 80 to 100 mile radius that you suggest, but Newcastle are the ONLY club within 25-30 miles in that region. Football in general is also probably viewed with less apathy up there.
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My last ST was under McLeish.
Not seen anything to make me want to go back.
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I think our support is pretty poor in comparison to clubs of a similar size, who have been infinitely less successful than we have over the past 50 years, such as Man City and Newcastle.
Really?
The truly staggering amount of dross that has been served up at Villa Park over the last few years and we still manage to regularly get crowds of over 35k. I'd say that was pretty remarkable support.
Well poor us ah? "The football is shite, it's not fair Tom".
Put it into context; Newcastle recently averaged around 13000 more than that in the second division, Man City averaged that in the 3rd division just under 15 years ago, having spent the previous who knows how many years completely in the shadow of their neighbours. I wonder how fond they were of their football while they were sinking through the leagues?
We sit with so many advantages; we are located in one of the biggest urban conurbations in the UK, with an ability to draw support from several million people, with easy access to a few million more around that. We’re comfortably the biggest club for 80 to 100 miles in any direction, yet our home support has only ever been meh.
Your Tom Ross reference is pretty pathetic, so I'll be the better man and let that go.
Do you think home performances have been good over the last few seasons? Or that the fans should swallow any old shite and keep paying through the nose for the privilege?
My point is that a hell of a lot of people are doing just that. We have turned into perennial relegation candidates, and are still attracting large home crowds, who have in particular been very patient with Lambert.
Newcastle's support is not really a fair comparison to draw. We are the biggest club within the 80 to 100 mile radius that you suggest, but Newcastle are the ONLY club within 25-30 miles in that region. Football in general is also probably viewed with less apathy up there.
And we're the only club of any consequence in the West Midlands, without a serious local competitor since the late 1970'/early 1980s, sitting in one of the most densely populated regions in the UK, with the potential to draw support from surrounding counties for miles and miles in any direction. Kenwright was spot on when he said that the Villa have the most advantageous position in terms of support base compared to anybody in the country.
I understood your point completely and rebutted it previously. There is no explanation as to why smaller clubs, with less advantageous circumstances drew bigger support through vastly rougher times than we currently do when either poor, or successful for that matter.
We have mediocre home support, there is no other way of swinging it.
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Last week, I plucked up the courage to ask my son if he wanted to renew again next year - I had been dreading asking him as I genuinely feared he would say 'No' - and I love doing the father/son thing at the Villa with him that my dad did (and still does) with me.
He's 11 now and has had a season ticket bought from the day he was born - to guarantee his seat in between me and my Dad (his Grandad) - for when he was finally old enough to start coming to matches (aged 4 onwards).
My first seven seasons were 74/75 to 80/81 - what a team we had then. Gray, Little, Gidman, Mortimer,Cowans, Shaw, Withe - legends.
His first seven have seen us try and reach the Champions League in 2008/9, two wembley appearances under MON - then 4 years of the worst football and complete tediousness at home (albeit sprinkled with the odd Arsenal (a) win).
After a while he said - 'I'll have one - as long as we stay up'.
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Newcastle's support is not really a fair comparison to draw. We are the biggest club within the 80 to 100 mile radius that you suggest, but Newcastle are the ONLY club within 25-30 miles in that region. Football in general is also probably viewed with less apathy up there.
I agree with the point you make, I'm amazed that Villa still get so many at home but there is another city 10 miles away with a football team.
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Who also have significantly larger attendances than we do.
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Who also have significantly larger attendances than we do.
Although is that not at least partly down to the number of freebies they dole out?
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Who also have significantly larger attendances than we do.
Although is that not at least partly down to the number of freebies they dole out?
Yes. And they are the only team within a 10 mile radius.
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Hasn't the whole Villa and their attendances compared to other teams been done a few times now?
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Hasn't the whole Villa and their attendances compared to other teams been done a few times now?
No, never. Is Prince William a Villa fan?
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I've just checked Wikipedia and the population of Tyneside (i.e. excluding Wearside) is about 830,000. That's a lot of people for one football club.
As much as we like to disparage our neighbours, the truth is we share the West Midlands conurbation with several other big clubs (I'm thinking Wolves, West Brom, Blues and to a lesser extent Coventry). Not all of these rivals might get big attendances, but plenty of people still align themselves with them, rather than Villa. I think our crowds have held up really well over the last few years, given the dross we've been served up.
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My last ST was under McLeish.
Not seen anything to make me want to go back.
Me also, and gave up after 26 consecutive years as a ST holder.
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bham has the youngest population structure of any European city. 40% under 25. a major opportunity to grow our fan base and attendences. current form not helping matters though
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Hasn't the whole Villa and their attendances compared to other teams been done a few times now?
Yep. Not sure how to do links but i did a bit of brief research on it here -
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The away fans are and always have been brilliant - they're representing the club more than the team, in lots of ways.
At home, the manager and the team are representing the fans and they're not doing it anywhere near well enough.
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Hasn't the whole Villa and their attendances compared to other teams been done a few times now?
Yep. Not sure how to do links but i did a bit of brief research on it here - Brief is an understatement.
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Hasn't the whole Villa and their attendances compared to other teams been done a few times now?
Yep. Not sure how to do links but i did a bit of brief research on it here -
Brief is an understatement.
Click the link.
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What link?
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What link?
Quote from: Ad@m on October 29, 2012, 01:57:27 PM
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What link?
Quote from: Ad@m on October 29, 2012, 01:57:27 PM
Does this clarify things?
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There is no link.
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Am I missing something here? Apart from a clickable link, obviously.
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What link?
Quote from: Ad@m on October 29, 2012, 01:57:27 PM
Does this clarify things?
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Can you see it now?
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What about this...
http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=48144.msg2162912#msg2162912 (http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=48144.msg2162912#msg2162912)
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Ah. Gotcha.
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Oh dear
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I always feel like I can't be bothered with it anymore, but something in the back of my kind always thinks "what if next season is where we turn brilliant and win something???".
That's why we all bother in the first place.
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I'm moving to London next month so that'll be it for me after 10 straight years. I can barely summon up the enthusiasm to travel 3 miles to watch us these days, let alone 100. Even if I wasn't moving I'd probably only pick a handful of games.
If we got rid of Lambert I would reconsider but that seems very unlikely at this point.
living in London provides plenty of away games right on your doorstep. You can get absolutely twatted and then wobble home on public transport. It's great being a villa fan in London !!
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I had a season ticket pretty much constantly from 1996 until the day Lambert started.
Then I jacked it in.
Going to Villa Park isn't fun anymore. Simple as that.
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Missed the two calls from the ticket office last night so they are after me!
Decided to check out availability for tickets and possible costs just using Viagogo for the last 5 matches in the Upper Holte middle three sections.
I pay £27 a match to sit there - I can have a range of seats until the end of the season for £20 in that area.
So I can register my discontent, still support the Villa and save a minimum £133 next season.
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Missed the two calls from the ticket office last night so they are after me!
Decided to check out availability for tickets and possible costs just using Viagogo for the last 5 matches in the Upper Holte middle three sections.
I pay £27 a match to sit there - I can have a range of seats until the end of the season for £20 in that area.
So I can register my discontent, still support the Villa and save a minimum £133 next season.
Does that £20 include viagogo's eye-watering fees?
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Missed the two calls from the ticket office last night so they are after me!
Decided to check out availability for tickets and possible costs just using Viagogo for the last 5 matches in the Upper Holte middle three sections.
I pay £27 a match to sit there - I can have a range of seats until the end of the season for £20 in that area.
So I can register my discontent, still support the Villa and save a minimum £133 next season.
Does that £20 include viagogo's eye-watering fees?
No - are they £7:30 odd then?
Genuine question
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For some reason the fees vary. Anything from about £4 up to £8.
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Missed the two calls from the ticket office last night so they are after me!
Decided to check out availability for tickets and possible costs just using Viagogo for the last 5 matches in the Upper Holte middle three sections.
I pay £27 a match to sit there - I can have a range of seats until the end of the season for £20 in that area.
So I can register my discontent, still support the Villa and save a minimum £133 next season.
Does that £20 include viagogo's eye-watering fees?
No - are they £7:30 odd then?
Genuine question
The additional charges are normally around 25/30% on Viagogo so you're probably looking at £5 or £6 in additional cost on a £20 ticket.
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Missed the two calls from the ticket office last night so they are after me!
Decided to check out availability for tickets and possible costs just using Viagogo for the last 5 matches in the Upper Holte middle three sections.
I pay £27 a match to sit there - I can have a range of seats until the end of the season for £20 in that area.
So I can register my discontent, still support the Villa and save a minimum £133 next season.
Does that £20 include viagogo's eye-watering fees?
No - are they £7:30 odd then?
Genuine question
The additional charges are normally around 25/30% on Viagogo so you're probably looking at £5 or £6 in additional cost on a £20 ticket.
Ta for that Ad@m - £18 seat costing £22:50(ish) then in Lower Holte/Trinity.
Half-season ticket if we are looking good and still in the cup is a goer (do I now count as a glory hunter?)
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There's not much to look forward to next season given the way we have recently crumbled. Inconsistent, occasional glimpses are insufficient for me. 10 home league losses? Not exactly inspiring, is it?
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There's not much to look forward to next season given the way we have recently crumbled. Inconsistent, occasional glimpses are insufficient for me. 10 home league losses? Not exactly inspiring, is it?
The sad thing is Leeg some of us only want a decent display, not even wins!
I said before the Stoke match if we played a bit I would renew for next season, you know the rest.
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I must have ticked a box somewhere for no communication. I never get any chasing calls from the club.
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Can't believe what ive done...ive renewed for next season...mind you £321 for P8 is a bit if a bargain..whatever league we are in!
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Can't believe what ive done...ive renewed for next season...mind you £321 for P8 is a bit if a bargain..whatever league we are in!
How come you've got a ST in P8 for £321 when we have to pay £335!?
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Can't believe what ive done...ive renewed for next season...mind you £321 for P8 is a bit if a bargain..whatever league we are in!
How come you've got a ST in P8 for £321 when we have to pay £335!?
I'm guessing Villa Cash...
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Can't believe what ive done...ive renewed for next season...mind you £321 for P8 is a bit if a bargain..whatever league we are in!
How come you've got a ST in P8 for £321 when we have to pay £335!?
I'm guessing Villa Cash...
Ah, yes. Using this season's Villa Cash would probably make that about right,
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I have stated this before those who have season tickets are now subsidising part time attendees like me (who are happy to sit out the 'big games').
This to me does not seem fair and wasn't the case before that Viggag tie in.
Season ticket holders of >= 5 consecutive years should have a 25% discount.
Those with ST for 2-4 years should have a 20% discount.
Those with an ST this season should have a 10% discount.
The club are shooting themselves in the foot by increasing STs prices
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Can't believe what ive done...ive renewed for next season...mind you £321 for P8 is a bit if a bargain..whatever league we are in!
I've renewed. Unfortunately that's just the way it is.
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Can't believe what ive done...ive renewed for next season...mind you £321 for P8 is a bit if a bargain..whatever league we are in!
Yes..had £13 left on Villa cash...i wasnt going to get one..but you can't turn that offer down.
How come you've got a ST in P8 for £321 when we have to pay £335!?
I'm guessing Villa Cash...
Ah, yes. Using this season's Villa Cash would probably make that about right,
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Just wondering whether to send Nicola Keye my refusal letter now or wait to see how many matches we actually lose at home in the full season
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Can't believe what ive done...ive renewed for next season...mind you £321 for P8 is a bit if a bargain..whatever league we are in!
How come you've got a ST in P8 for £321 when we have to pay £335!?
He bought the same seat as you thanks to Villa's new "get to know your fellow fans, trail standing scheme".
He will be standing in front of you.
Good news is you will both likely get the same entertainment value.
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Just wondering whether to send Nicola Keye my refusal letter now or wait to see how many matches we actually lose at home in the full season
If you want to send a letter why not send it to the right person? I'm going to assume your reasons for not renewing have nothing to do with anything Nicola Keye has done.
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Ticket Office must like me, either that or they like an ear bending - 2 calls enquiring if I will
renew in L6 - the first call lasted upwards of 10mins (I wonder if anyone listened to the recording?)
the second was short and to the point ......'you already aked ad it's no'
In between time I emailed CEO Faulkner and followed it up with hand delivered letter (heart felt
and not abusive) to which Nicola keye spoke with me by phone explaining Faulkner 'doesn't do replies'
Yesterday the club begging letter was delivered by postie (bluenose Ron Green ex Walsall gk)
I haven't decided what to do with it yet
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After about 23 years I will not be renewing. I now have a job which involves working most Saturday/Sundays.
Would I have renewed if I didn't now work weekends ? Probably.
Would I have taken a job five years ago which meant missing the Villa ? Probably not.
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Me and Mrs HV will also not be renewing.
There are several reasons;-
1. SKY - moving all the games around
2. Value for money - why buy a Season Ticket when I can buy tickets for £12 viagogo
3. Cost ( Season Ticket + 260 mile round trip, programme, food etc) it is a costly day out
4 Time - It is an all day affair for us
5 Missed games -I have a job which involves a great deal of European travel which means I often miss the midweek games as I am not here.
6 Enjoyment. - I really don't enjoy going to Villa Park any more. I much prefer gong to away games
7 The way our club is being run
8. The complete lack of ambition
9 The premiere league 4 teams in with a chance, the next one doomed to the Crap Cup in Europe, the rest trying to avoid relegation. No thanks !
10. Crap football
What will I miss:-
1.The biggest thing I will miss is the people I have sat close to for a long time. We have all travelled together, without them I feel I would have had enough long before!
2 Crap football ;-)
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Just wondering whether to send Nicola Keye my refusal letter now or wait to see how many matches we actually lose at home in the full season
If you want to send a letter why not send it to the right person? I'm going to assume your reasons for not renewing have nothing to do with anything Nicola Keye has done.
Because she's the person who wrote to me as Head of Consumer Sales
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1 moved for BT Sport:
Sat Aug 23- Newcastle (H) - 12.45pm
5 moved for Sky:
Sat Sep 13 - Liverpool (A) - 5.30pm
Sat Oct 4 - Man City (H) - 5.30pm
Mon Oct 27 - QPR (A) - 8pm
Sun Nov 2 - Tottenham (H) - 4pm
Mon Nov 24 - Southampton (H) - 8pm
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1 moved for BT Sport:
Sat Aug 23- Newcastle (H) - 12.45pm
5 moved for Sky:
Sat Sep 13 - Liverpool (A) - 5.30pm
Sat Oct 4 - Man City (H) - 5.30pm
Mon Oct 27 - QPR (A) - 8pm
Sun Nov 2 - Tottenham (H) - 4pm
Mon Nov 24 - Southampton (H) - 8pm
This is what pisses me off......i swore to myself that i would not renew for this coming season but what happens when they go on general release i collapse like a pack of cards
and buy one admittedly not my old seat but a cheaper one saving me £100...then this list comes out and 4 home games already down for TV...oh why did i bother.
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Bugger with QPR. Half days needed now.
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Blimey, six early Villa games moved for television! Getting us out of the way early so they don't have to watch the same end of season shit that we do!!
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A shame that our first home game has been moved to a 1245 start, which is an atmosphere killer.
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I understand that nobody wants to be going to Villa Park on a Sunday or Monday night, but I actually really like 5:30 kick offs. Can get in the boozer for the early kick off, watch the scores roll in then the atmosphere in the ground is usually better because most people are pretty licked or on the way ...
12:45 on a Saturday is the worst though, no doubt.
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Me and Mrs HV will also not be renewing.
There are several reasons;-
1. SKY - moving all the games around
2. Value for money - why buy a Season Ticket when I can buy tickets for £12 viagogo
3. Cost ( Season Ticket + 260 mile round trip, programme, food etc) it is a costly day out
4 Time - It is an all day affair for us
5 Missed games -I have a job which involves a great deal of European travel which means I often miss the midweek games as I am not here.
6 Enjoyment. - I really don't enjoy going to Villa Park any more. I much prefer gong to away games
7 The way our club is being run
8. The complete lack of ambition
9 The premiere league 4 teams in with a chance, the next one doomed to the Crap Cup in Europe, the rest trying to avoid relegation. No thanks !
10. Crap football
What will I miss:-
1.The biggest thing I will miss is the people I have sat close to for a long time. We have all travelled together, without them I feel I would have had enough long before!
2 Crap football ;-)
And does Southampton on a Monday night help or hinder you, HV?
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Bugger with QPR. Half days needed now.
The game will revert to Saturday (not sure what KO time) if either or both teams are in the Fourth Round of the League Cup, making it more difficult to plan for.
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The 2 main reasons I didn't renew this season are cost (the biggest factor) and i'm fed up of all the fannying around with fixtures getting moved.
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This fixture bollocks winds me up every time. I won't descend into the same strop as always. Suffice to say, TV twatting about with games is blight on every supporter who wants to watch a game, at a sensible hour, each weekend.
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Goes towards vindicating my decision not to renew. I'll pick and choose matches and any special offers taking my Grandson with me.
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Goes towards vindicating my decision not to renew. I'll pick and choose matches and any special offers taking my Grandson with me.
My sentiment entirely - however I will not be taking your Grandson obviously :)
This news on top of the announcement of the Adidas deal for ManUre just reinforces my current outlook on the Premier League - The "Bigger " clubs will continue to get bigger whilst we will end up with the other bottom feeders scraping to stay in the "Big League"
VCTM jnr is gutted that we have not renewed but I just couldn`t put myself through all that crap again - poor football, constantly changing fixtures to placate TV, stupid KO times and a squad of underperforming overpaid "players" that I am no longer able to connect with - as previosly stated I have fallen out with the game rather than the Villa.
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I hate the way the OS announces these changes as if it's some sort of exciting news.
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I hate the way the OS announces these changes as if it's some sort of exciting news.
do they? The first sentence is:
Six of Villa's Barclays Premier League games have been chosen for live TV coverage.
Seems quite straightforward and to the point to me
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do they?
Yes
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QPR on a Monday night just has horrible away defeat written all over it. Have a better feeling for that game if it's on a Saturday for some reason.
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The 2 main reasons I didn't renew this season are cost (the biggest factor) and i'm fed up of all the fannying around with fixtures getting moved.
I'm getting very frustrated with all these changes. Am I allowed to moan about this or will I get moderated ;-)
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The 2 main reasons I didn't renew this season are cost (the biggest factor) and i'm fed up of all the fannying around with fixtures getting moved.
I'm getting very frustrated with all these changes. Am I allowed to moan about this or will I get moderated ;-)
As I understand the H&V universe, Silhillvilla, everybody moans about fixture changes.
You are allowed.
You may still get moderated, though.
Ooooooh. (Hashtag bit of a thrill)
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Can't believe what ive done...ive renewed for next season...mind you £321 for P8 is a bit if a bargain..whatever league we are in!
I've renewed. Unfortunately that's just the way it is.
I love sitting in P8 it's a great view for the money.
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I still think Legion is far too young to be a grandad.
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do they?
Yes
Oh they do that do thay?
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The 2 main reasons I didn't renew this season are cost (the biggest factor) and i'm fed up of all the fannying around with fixtures getting moved.
I'm getting very frustrated with all these changes. Am I allowed to moan about this or will I get moderated ;-)
It's ok now you are in an unholy alliance.
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I still think Legion is far too young to be a grandad.
I'm 43. Practically ancient.
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I plan to be still making babies at that age.
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I've just turned 43 and there is definitely lead in my pencil.
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43 lulz you are mega old!
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43 old? There should be plenty of pencil hardness left at that age - 9H at least.
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43 lulz you are mega old!
Ads.....it's 43 lulz you is well old innit....or so I've been told by the kidz....
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43 old? There should be plenty of pencil hardness left at that age - 9H at least.
Lulz, people past 40 can't have sex silly. Their hips would break and it would be minging too.
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43 lulz you are mega old!
Ads.....it's 43 lulz you is well old innit....or so I've been told by the kidz....
Sayfe.
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43 lulz you are mega old!
Ads.....it's 43 lulz you is well old innit....or so I've been told by the kidz....
Sayfe.
8) 8) = too cool....
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43 old? There should be plenty of pencil hardness left at that age - 9H at least.
Lulz, people past 40 can't have sex silly. Their hips would break and it would be minging too.
With age comes experience, laddie.
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Not sure how accurate this is, but apparently we've sold 9,000 season tickets compared to last season's 17,000...
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Can't be true...source?
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We'd sold 6000 in May, 3000 over the next two months isn't very many.
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Well I renewed. This season may kill me.
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Looking on Oddschecker I see we are between 16/5 to as low as 2/1 to go down. The only ones shorter priced than us are Hull, Albion and the three promoted clubs.
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Looking on Oddschecker I see we are between 16/5 to as low as 2/1 to go down. The only ones shorter priced than us are Hull, Albion and the three promoted clubs.
Sunderland haven't signed anyone of note, they'll be down there again. Swansea aswell. After that I'm struggling.
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Looking on Oddschecker I see we are between 16/5 to as low as 2/1 to go down. The only ones shorter priced than us are Hull, Albion and the three promoted clubs.
Sunderland haven't signed anyone of note, they'll be down there again. Swansea aswell. After that I'm struggling.
I agree with you about Swansea and would throw Albion and Burnley into the mix too. Sunderland's record under Poyet was vey impressive. I think they had one point when he took over and he kept them up and got them to a cup final. Although I agree with you their squad on paper doesn't look hugely impressive.
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Looking on Oddschecker I see we are between 16/5 to as low as 2/1 to go down. The only ones shorter priced than us are Hull, Albion and the three promoted clubs.
Sunderland haven't signed anyone of note, they'll be down there again. Swansea aswell. After that I'm struggling.
Swansea seem to be applying the Ellis theory of managing history to Laudrup's squad and airbrushing it out of existence as quickly as possible.
According to reports over here, even Michu is lined up for a move back to Spain.
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I think Michu is in 'advanced talks' with Napoli over a 'loan move with a view to a permanent transfer'. Two wonderfully modern football phrases in one sentence.
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What are Swansea thinking of letting Michu go, unless they're worried about his injury problems? The only other two decent players they have are Ben Davies (who I think is very under rated) and Bony. They might be in trouble next season.
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Michu's gone to Napoli on loan for the season. Very odd. If they sell Bony too they'll definitely struggle. I have to say, there's something about Gary Monk that I don't like. Can't put my finger on it.
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There has been a lot of media talk about Michu being more interested in engineering a move than actually playing football last season and question marks about how injured he really was on occasions.
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Looking on Oddschecker I see we are between 16/5 to as low as 2/1 to go down. The only ones shorter priced than us are Hull, Albion and the three promoted clubs.
Sunderland haven't signed anyone of note, they'll be down there again. Swansea aswell. After that I'm struggling.
And the leading Sack Race odds are: 4/1 Alan Irvine, 6/1 Alan Pardew, 6/1 Sam Allardyce, 6/1 Harry Redknapp, 12/1 Paul Lambert, 14/1 Garry Monk
16/1 Nigel Pearson, 16/1 Ronald Koeman, 25/1 Gus Poyet
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Looking on Oddschecker I see we are between 16/5 to as low as 2/1 to go down. The only ones shorter priced than us are Hull, Albion and the three promoted clubs.
Sunderland haven't signed anyone of note, they'll be down there again. Swansea aswell. After that I'm struggling.
And the leading Sack Race odds are: 4/1 Alan Irvine, 6/1 Alan Pardew, 6/1 Sam Allardyce, 6/1 Harry Redknapp, 12/1 Paul Lambert, 14/1 Garry Monk
16/1 Nigel Pearson, 16/1 Ronald Koeman, 25/1 Gus Poyet
I wouldn't mind a reverse forecast on Irvine and Monk.
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Are they out and about yet ? ( Season tickets) ??? - if anyone on here actually buys ST's or goes to games !
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Looking on Oddschecker I see we are between 16/5 to as low as 2/1 to go down. The only ones shorter priced than us are Hull, Albion and the three promoted clubs.
Sunderland haven't signed anyone of note, they'll be down there again. Swansea aswell. After that I'm struggling.
I agree with you about Swansea and would throw Albion and Burnley into the mix too. Sunderland's record under Poyet was vey impressive. I think they had one point when he took over and he kept them up and got them to a cup final. Although I agree with you their squad on paper doesn't look hugely impressive.
Ah I've already included the promoted three in the down there stakes. I think QPR and Leicester will stay up though.
Bottom 6/7 looking to me promoted three, us, Albion, Sunderland, Swansea.
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Looking on Oddschecker I see we are between 16/5 to as low as 2/1 to go down. The only ones shorter priced than us are Hull, Albion and the three promoted clubs.
Sunderland haven't signed anyone of note, they'll be down there again. Swansea aswell. After that I'm struggling.
I agree with you about Swansea and would throw Albion and Burnley into the mix too. Sunderland's record under Poyet was vey impressive. I think they had one point when he took over and he kept them up and got them to a cup final. Although I agree with you their squad on paper doesn't look hugely impressive.
Wigan always used to end the seasons in storming form beating the top teams which lead everyone to think they'd kick on the next season. They didn't, Sunderland will be down there once again.
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Looking on Oddschecker I see we are between 16/5 to as low as 2/1 to go down. The only ones shorter priced than us are Hull, Albion and the three promoted clubs.
Sunderland haven't signed anyone of note, they'll be down there again. Swansea aswell. After that I'm struggling.
I agree with you about Swansea and would throw Albion and Burnley into the mix too. Sunderland's record under Poyet was vey impressive. I think they had one point when he took over and he kept them up and got them to a cup final. Although I agree with you their squad on paper doesn't look hugely impressive.
Ah I've already included the promoted three in the down there stakes. I think QPR and Leicester will stay up though.
Bottom 6/7 looking to me promoted three, us, Albion, Sunderland, Swansea.
Just because Crystal Palace went on a decent run in the second half of the season, I don't see that making them suddenly immune to a relegation battle. They wouldn't be the first team to look relatively solid in their first season and then drop like a stone.
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Pulis teams just don't get relegated though, same principle with West Ham.
Both will probably flirt with the bottom 3 for a bit but they'll both win 9 or 10 home games which is generally enough as then you only need 1 or 2 away wins and bingo you're safe.
I've actually forgot to include a team I've actually tipped to go down...Hull. Overachieved last season and we've seen before decent teams knackered from playing in the Europa league.
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Still be early to tip the bottom three as the transfer market is just kicking into gear.I certainly think we will be there or thereabouts for the drop.I don't see how we will turn our horrendous form from the end of last season around without more quality added to squad,should be lose Vlaar we will be in big trouble.
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Could see West Ham struggling oddly, just don't think Big Sam's recent signings have been that good, at best they are a mid-table team, but if teams improve around them they could be down there this season. Their home form could be key, sometimes Upton Park can be a very tricky away ground, others it plays into the away teams hands with the fans putting added pressure on the Hammers.
I think two of the three promoted sides might stay up, which means we are hoping for someone from the likes of Swansea, West Brom or Sunderland to hit the buffers.
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Still be early to tip the bottom three as the transfer market is just kicking into gear.I certainly think we will be there or thereabouts for the drop.I don't see how we will turn our horrendous form from the end of last season around without more quality added to squad,should be lose Vlaar we will be in big trouble.
We have three new signings, three of the bomb squad back in the fold and the return to fitness of Okore, N'Zogbia, Kozak and Benteke. Obviously people will have different opinions as to the quality of a few of those players but we certainly have a stronger squad. Also, the Culverhouse and Karsa situation has been sorted. I am not going to pretend I am wildly optimistic but I think we have some basis for a little bit of optimism.
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Looking on Oddschecker I see we are between 16/5 to as low as 2/1 to go down. The only ones shorter priced than us are Hull, Albion and the three promoted clubs.
Sunderland haven't signed anyone of note, they'll be down there again. Swansea aswell. After that I'm struggling.
And the leading Sack Race odds are: 4/1 Alan Irvine, 6/1 Alan Pardew, 6/1 Sam Allardyce, 6/1 Harry Redknapp, 12/1 Paul Lambert, 14/1 Garry Monk
16/1 Nigel Pearson, 16/1 Ronald Koeman, 25/1 Gus Poyet
Monk is super value at that price, he looks miles out of his depth.
A takeover and Lambert is gone. West Ham will keep Allardyce until they move into the new stadium.
Wonder what club Moyes will be in the hotseat in by Xmas?
Fulham at 10/1 look good value to win the second tier.
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Looking on Oddschecker I see we are between 16/5 to as low as 2/1 to go down. The only ones shorter priced than us are Hull, Albion and the three promoted clubs.
Sunderland haven't signed anyone of note, they'll be down there again. Swansea aswell. After that I'm struggling.
And the leading Sack Race odds are: 4/1 Alan Irvine, 6/1 Alan Pardew, 6/1 Sam Allardyce, 6/1 Harry Redknapp, 12/1 Paul Lambert, 14/1 Garry Monk
16/1 Nigel Pearson, 16/1 Ronald Koeman, 25/1 Gus Poyet
Monk is super value at that price, he looks miles out of his depth.
A takeover and Lambert is gone. West Ham will keep Allardyce until they move into the new stadium.
Wonder what club Moyes will be in the hotseat in by Xmas?
Fulham at 10/1 look good value to win the second tier.
Yeah think Swansea could regret that change in the long term. Still think it will be awhile before we see Moyes back in Football, unless its taking Hansen's job at BEEB. Don't think any of us can predict Lambert's future right now. It looks like he is on burrowed time, but who knows how long this take over will take, and if we have a decent start then he may still have a future.
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@MatKendrick: Luna, Tonev & Carruthers are the notable absentees from the #avfc squad in Texas. And Vlaar, of course, who is having a well-earned rest. And Robinson.
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Looking on Oddschecker I see we are between 16/5 to as low as 2/1 to go down. The only ones shorter priced than us are Hull, Albion and the three promoted clubs.
Sunderland haven't signed anyone of note, they'll be down there again. Swansea aswell. After that I'm struggling.
And the leading Sack Race odds are: 4/1 Alan Irvine, 6/1 Alan Pardew, 6/1 Sam Allardyce, 6/1 Harry Redknapp, 12/1 Paul Lambert, 14/1 Garry Monk
16/1 Nigel Pearson, 16/1 Ronald Koeman, 25/1 Gus Poyet
Monk is super value at that price, he looks miles out of his depth.
A takeover and Lambert is gone. West Ham will keep Allardyce until they move into the new stadium.
Wonder what club Moyes will be in the hotseat in by Xmas?
Fulham at 10/1 look good value to win the second tier.
Yeah think Swansea could regret that change in the long term. Still think it will be awhile before we see Moyes back in Football, unless its taking Hansen's job at BEEB. Don't think any of us can predict Lambert's future right now. It looks like he is on burrowed time, but who knows how long this take over will take, and if we have a decent start then he may still have a future.
"burrowed time" Commence gags based on rabbits, carrots, maybe badgers.
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@MatKendrick: Luna, Tonev & Carruthers are the notable absentees from the #avfc squad in Texas. And Vlaar, of course, who is having a well-earned rest. And Robinson.
Should we have a one big tour thread or are we having separate pre/match/post-combos for each of the US games?
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The 'USA Tour Thread' might be a good starting place Mr Sox.
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Just got my tickets sorted for the Newcastle game, Holte L5, got me excited for the new season already ;)
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Got my tickets sorted for the Walsall friendly. Family outing with my wife, son and daughter. Big event as it is usually just my son and I that go to games. He loves going to Walsall due to the McDonalds being a stone's throw from the ground.
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Got my tickets sorted for the Walsall friendly. Family outing with my wife, son and daughter. Big event as it is usually just my son and I that go to games. He loves going to Walsall due to the McDonalds being a stone's throw from the ground.
I too really enjoy the Walsall friendlies, always take a huge following and we get to see at least 3 or 4 Villa goals. Been the last two years but haven't been able to this year - no money being a broke student and can't convince my usual party to come with me.
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Got my tickets sorted for the Walsall friendly. Family outing with my wife, son and daughter. Big event as it is usually just my son and I that go to games. He loves going to Walsall due to the McDonalds being a stone's throw from the ground.
I too really enjoy the Walsall friendlies, always take a huge following and we get to see at least 3 or 4 Villa goals. Been the last two years but haven't been able to this year - no money being a broke student and can't convince my usual party to come with me.
The Newcastle tickets were Viagogo "free" I take it. ;)
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Got my tickets sorted for the Walsall friendly. Family outing with my wife, son and daughter. Big event as it is usually just my son and I that go to games. He loves going to Walsall due to the McDonalds being a stone's throw from the ground.
I too really enjoy the Walsall friendlies, always take a huge following and we get to see at least 3 or 4 Villa goals. Been the last two years but haven't been able to this year - no money being a broke student and can't convince my usual party to come with me.
The Newcastle tickets were Viagogo "free" I take it. ;)
Haha, I always have money aside for the prem games! Just not quite wealthy enough to justify shelling out on a friendly.
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The 'USA Tour Thread' might be a good starting place Mr Sox.
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Just spotted your sly comment Mr Shin. I'll have you know that my post on here was what inspired the setting up of the Tour Thread.
Is a long walk back from Stoke, you know..............
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Can't believe what ive done...ive renewed for next season...mind you £321 for P8 is a bit if a bargain..whatever league we are in!
I've renewed. Unfortunately that's just the way it is.
I love sitting in P8 it's a great view for the money.
That's one of the major reasons I renewed, good place to sit.
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I defy anybody to post a more boring piece of trivia than this. Got my four Walsall tickets in the post today. Four adult tickets (although one should have been a junior ticket but my wife messed up when she ordered them). Two of them are smaller than the other two. Nothing missing, they all have the same information on and the perforations are there for the bit that you give up and the bit that you keep, but two different sizes. Boring but true.
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That is more interesting that the Taylor snooze fest.
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I defy anybody to post a more boring piece of trivia than this. Got my four Walsall tickets in the post today. Four adult tickets (although one should have been a junior ticket but my wife messed up when she ordered them). Two of them are smaller than the other two. Nothing missing, they all have the same information on and the perforations are there for the bit that you give up and the bit that you keep, but two different sizes. Boring but true.
Not nearly as boring as that but on my last trip back I ordered three adults and two children tickets. Stupid as my son is 4. Anyway, my nephew couldn't go because he was sick at the Ruskin Hall so I had to call his mom to pick him up. The other adult was in cornwall or something and my son was poorly too. So I went alone, my dad stayed with my nephew and came after we had scored (v Swansea) and I gave the other adult ticket to Legion.
Me and lee were enthusing about how great we were playing when some bloke turned round looking at us as if it was our first game. We qualified it be comparing it to the Shit 90 minutes against palace. Turned from a crap start to a crap end. Sorry, not nearly as boring Damo.
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Has anyone had their ST packs through yet ?
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Nope.
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Has anyone had their ST packs through yet ?
Yep, mine arrived yesterday.
It contained a new ST Card. I wasn't expecting that.
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Nope.
Me neither. My postman is a nose so I don't trust him.
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I defy anybody to post a more boring piece of trivia than this. Got my four Walsall tickets in the post today. Four adult tickets (although one should have been a junior ticket but my wife messed up when she ordered them). Two of them are smaller than the other two. Nothing missing, they all have the same information on and the perforations are there for the bit that you give up and the bit that you keep, but two different sizes. Boring but true.
Not nearly as boring as that but on my last trip back I ordered three adults and two children tickets. Stupid as my son is 4. Anyway, my nephew couldn't go because he was sick at the Ruskin Hall so I had to call his mom to pick him up. The other adult was in cornwall or something and my son was poorly too. So I went alone, my dad stayed with my nephew and came after we had scored (v Swansea) and I gave the other adult ticket to Legion.
Me and lee were enthusing about how great we were playing when some bloke turned round looking at us as if it was our first game. We qualified it be comparing it to the Shit 90 minutes against palace. Turned from a crap start to a crap end. Sorry, not nearly as boring Damo.
Don't put yourself down. My story was the most boring but yours was more long winded and confusing. At some point in reading it I forgot my own name and lost the will to live. ;)
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I fell into a coma reading both posts...;)
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I fell into a coma reading both posts...;)
I love it when threads go off on a tangent. Welcome to the incredibly boring story thread.........
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Has anyone had their ST packs through yet ?
Yep, mine arrived yesterday.
It contained a new ST Card. I wasn't expecting that.
Nobody expects a new ST card.
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I see Man City are buying more players. It's a joke. Football is a joke. I hate it. I've given my ST up. What's the point of a team like us when football is all about winning? We're never going to spend the money they do. Liverpool are spending it like it's going out of fashion as well.
Dull. Dull. Dull. This may well be the season I watch the least amount of football.
Now, where's the ticket office number for the Hull game...
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Has anyone had their ST packs through yet ?
Yep, mine arrived yesterday.
It contained a new ST Card. I wasn't expecting that.
Nobody expects a new ST card.
Most don't even want one.
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Has anyone had their ST packs through yet ?
Yep, mine arrived yesterday.
It contained a new ST Card. I wasn't expecting that.
Nobody expects a new ST card.
Most don't even want one.
Villa ST or STD? Tough call.
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I see Man City are buying more players. It's a joke. Football is a joke. I hate it. I've given my ST up. What's the point of a team like us when football is all about winning? We're never going to spend the money they do. Liverpool are spending it like it's going out of fashion as well.
Dull. Dull. Dull. This may well be the season I watch the least amount of football.
Now, where's the ticket office number for the Hull game...
Does Villa/Hull really class as Football though?
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Still not had our ST's through ? May call the TO tomorrow .
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Haven't had mine yet either. They were supposed to be sent by beginning of August IIRC. If mine hasn't turned up by next weekend I'll give them a call. Anyone know how many we've sold so far?
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Still not had our ST's through ? May call the TO tomorrow .
Why? The season's still three weeks away and we don't play at home until the week after.
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My ST came through today
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My ST came through today
Mine has too.
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My ST came through today
Mine has too.
Ditto for ours. On the one hand I am looking forward to it getting going again then on the other realising it signifies the impending end of Summer.
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My ST came through today
Mine has too.
Ditto for ours. On the one hand I am looking forward to it getting going again then on the other realising it signifies the impending end of Summer. :-[
And the impending start of a new season.
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Can you all hurry up and sell them cheap on Viagogo please...
;-)
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My ST came through today
Mine has too.
Mine hasn't. I have however had a personal letter from David Cameron today requesting that my wife and I complete the two questionnaires enclosed and return them in the pre paid envelope. The letter states that the two questionnaires are identical but we should each give own own opinions so that he can understand what our priorities and concerns and concerns are. I completed the questionnaire with my name on. It would have helped if there had actually been another one enclosed in my wife's name. Actually it wouldn't have made a difference. She wouldn't have given a toss.
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Vanishing spray. In the PL. From now. Watch Chelsea ignore it and get all up in the ref's face on the subject.
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Vanishing spray. In the PL. From now. Watch Chelsea ignore it and get all up in the ref's face on the subject.
I can imagine the ref drawing a line and then drawing numerous new lines as he continues to back up from the Chelsea players. It will look like a railway track by the time he's done.
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First ground it is used to spray a massive cock on the pitch?
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Vanishing spray. In the PL. From now. Watch Chelsea ignore it and get all up in the ref's face on the subject.
I can imagine the ref drawing a line and then drawing numerous new lines as he continues to back up from the Chelsea players. It will look like a railway track by the time he's done.
Yep, then John Terry will behave how his Dad taught him near railway tracks: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2582828/I-smash-head-black-c-What-John-Terrys-father-allegedly-said-train-station-cleaner-threatening-bottle.html
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First ground it is used to spray a massive cock on the pitch?
Loftus Road has more than one candidate to have it squirted at him!
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First ground it is used to spray a massive cock on the pitch?
John Terry?
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Jul 30th 2014 .
Am. My ST arrived .
Pm . Chesterfield 3-1 Villa.
Hoping not an ominous portent.
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Jul 30th 2014 .
Am. My ST arrived .
Pm . Chesterfield 3-1 Villa.
Hoping not an ominous portent.
You're an ominous portent.
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Mine arrived yesterday morning. In the afternoon I saw a magpie walking under a ladder carrying a dead lion cub while liaising with a black cat who was soiling an abandoned Villa scarf.
Hopefully not an ominous portent.
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Mine came yesterday morning and I opened it while Katie Perry gave me a blow job.
I think we're going to win the league.
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Mine came yesterday....nothing to report..
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On a positive note , there was a picturesque postcard in the ST wallet , an aerial landscape of VP which would appear to have been shot from the scaffold around Aston church spire.
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Got mine a few days ago.
We go again.
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Got mine this morning and off to Walsall next week.
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I very reluctantly renewed, and a month on I'm really not confident this season. The useless owners/management have made a complete hash of it since 2010, and there's no sign of the situation improving any time soon. I fear by the time Lerner sells it'll be too late and we'll be in deep trouble. Just for once, why can't they give us some positive news with a marquee signing? - it's always negative......
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Sticking to my guns. Will be at the Parma game with most of my girls football team then going to the Stoke away fixture with PWS and UK Redsox.
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2 of mine came today - but no badge - which it made out last year you get one every year?
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Sticking to my guns. Will be at the Parma game with most of my girls football team then going to the Stoke away fixture with PWS and UK Redsox.
Just read the start of this thread along with this last page, can't be arsed to trawl through the lot; have you renewed?
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No.
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Sticking to my guns. Will be at the Parma game with most of my girls football team then going to the Stoke away fixture with PWS and UK Redsox.
Another shit result at the Britannia then!
My ticket arrived this morning.
Cheers Leeg! :-(
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STs arrived today. Club have skimped on "freebies" this season a bit.
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STs arrived today. Club have skimped on "freebies" this season a bit.
AVTV code is plastic and fixture list on thin card/paper, slightly bizarre?
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I remember when having a season ticket meant access to all games home and away in every competition, Steve Stride coming round your house to serenade you with his guitar, a trip in Doug's Roller (It wasn't like a trip in Jimmy's Roller, Doug just wanted you to tell him what a fantastic bloke he was for ten minutes - it was a short trip because he always had an eye on the petrol bills) and they put a Hollywood style gold star in the place where you stood on The Holte. They just don't care about the fans these days.
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Have all ST holders received their pack???
As i haven't received anything yet, i thought that may be to me changing to a cheaper seat this season and caused
a delay, more and more people are confirming on here that their's have arrived.
Am i alone!!!!
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Have all ST holders received their pack???
As i haven't received anything yet, i thought that may be to me changing to a cheaper seat this season and caused
a delay, more and more people are confirming on here that their's have arrived.
Am i alone!!!!
Got mine over a week ago - they're probably relying on second class post now....
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Mine arrived a week ago. As said above, many of the frills have gone, we got a postcard, a sticker for the seat, fixture list, might be a key ring aswell, will double check.
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They put a bit of effort into the kids ones. My son got a hat, claret and blue laces for his football boots and a pretty comprehensive wall chart for the season. They usually send them out a smart personalised poster at some point in the season too.
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I got a nice postcard of Villa Park.
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I got a nice postcard of Villa Park.
Yes I liked that picture, the only thing spoiling it was the Doug Ellis (Witton Lane) Stand looking a bit naff.
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Have all ST holders received their pack???
As i haven't received anything yet, i thought that may be to me changing to a cheaper seat this season and caused
a delay, more and more people are confirming on here that their's have arrived.
Am i alone!!!!
Got mine but heard a bloke moaning on the train about not having received it so I don't think it's just you.
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I'm sure this isn't an original thought, but I think we'll be starting the season without a single player who scored more than 5 goals last season?
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I'm sure this isn't an original thought, but I think we'll be starting the season without a single player who scored more than 5 goals last season?
*consults Four Four Two* Weimann and Bacuna both scored 5 in the league last season.
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Mine arrived a week ago. As said above, many of the frills have gone, we got a postcard, a sticker for the seat, fixture list, might be a key ring aswell, will double check.
Think the sticker's for a car window rather than a seat - would be back-to-front on seat. And by displaying it in your car window Noses and Boggies know which car to scratch.
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From the OS a couple of days ago
The new season is nearly here and soon so will your season ticket welcome pack!
Our packs containing your new season card and a wealth of important information have already started to arrive on doormats.
The packs include your new season card as well as news on Villa Cash and access information for our in-house club television channel AVTV.
If yours hasn't arrived yet, don't worry!
They should be landing these next two weeks ahead of the coming campaign.
However, if you have not received your season ticket pack after your post has arrived on Thursday August 14 please contact the Consumer Sales department on 0800 612 0970.
At this point, we'll arrange for a replacement for you.
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Excellent news! You're notoriously unlucky, so you jacking it in is bound to coincide with a rebuilt midfield firing us along with sexy football.
Innit
Anyone else and I'd have shrugged it off, but as it's Legion, I've just booked a hotel room for Cup (Semi-)Final weekend.
You couldn't make it up.
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Excellent news! You're notoriously unlucky, so you jacking it in is bound to coincide with a rebuilt midfield firing us along wih sexy football.
Innit
Anyone else and I'd have shrugged it off, but as it's Legion, I've just booked a hotel room for Cup Final weekend.