Summer 2024 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc.

[Drummond]

We were very good at conserving energy last season. We needed to be given the dearth of depth in the squad (and the injuries). If we get all these players, we can play at a higher intensity for longer as we'll have the depth to change things without as big a drop off in quality.

[Olneythelonely]

I think there’s a degree of recency bias and also a natural desire to think things are positive for us when it comes to Doug leaving. When he was playing his best role, he was absolutely sensational and vital to our brilliant first half of the season.

And after Kamara was out, he was mostly rubbish. I'm sorry, but he was. I'm not sure that a player whose form depends so much on another player is that irreplaceable. I love Doug, and wish he was staying, but I also think it's good business and I'd much rather sell him than Martinez, Watkins or Ramsey.

Same here.

But is it good business for £17m and two inexperienced and unheralded players few of us had heard of last week? Seems not to me, if the reported deal is true

Isn’t the reported deal £25m + the two players? It only takes both to become worth £25m for it to be a pretty good deal. It doesn’t take that much to reach that valuation these days and I’d back Unai to improve both of them.

[ozzjim]

But is it good business for £17m and two inexperienced and unheralded players few of us had heard of last week? Seems not to me, if the reported deal is true

Well that remains to be seen, there's no way of answering that until we see what the players are like on the pitch. If they're in any way as good as Rogers, then yes. And also if this is the most realistic way of achieving his full value, because nobody else is prepared to pay the full asking price in cash, then also yes.

Like I said, we are on the riskier side of this deal, but could end up on the better side. Doug was poor last 3 months of the season without question. If we can improve the squad and replace Doug later this summer we will have done well.

[Risso]

We were very good at conserving energy last season. We needed to be given the dearth of depth in the squad (and the injuries). If we get all these players, we can play at a higher intensity for longer as we'll have the depth to change things without as big a drop off in quality.

We'll need to as well, because we'll have to play a stronger team at a higher intensity in the Champions League compared to the Europa Conference.

[Risso]

As an aside, it's good to see Emery really getting going with shaping the squad in his own style. He's done brilliantly, mostly with players from previous managers. Imagine how good he'll be when he gets more players he's chosen.

[SoccerHQ]

As it stands I think Tielemans basically steps up as Luiz replacement and then we have Barkley as cover for him.

Might work, might not.

I think Barrenechea is a really interesting link given he's a pure DM and we certainly need to sign one to cover the first half of next season with Kamara out.

With his age he's someone to develop but not sure he's quite ready to step in and play DM in CL.

[ozzjim]

As it stands I think Tielemans basically steps up as Luiz replacement and then we have Barkley as cover for him.

Might work, might not.

I think Barrenechea is a really interesting link given he's a pure DM and we certainly need to sign one to cover the first half of next season with Kamara out.

With his age he's someone to develop but not sure he's quite ready to step in and play DM in CL.

if he does he'll be worth £50m by Christmas and probably sold on next summer!

[paul_e]

As it stands I think Tielemans basically steps up as Luiz replacement and then we have Barkley as cover for him.

Might work, might not.

I think Barrenechea is a really interesting link given he's a pure DM and we certainly need to sign one to cover the first half of next season with Kamara out.

With his age he's someone to develop but not sure he's quite ready to step in and play DM in CL.

Before I start I apologise that this is gonig to be a post for the stats geeks.

Given how we play Emery places a lot of value on 'progression' with players like Rogers, JJ and Torres carrying the ball forward a lot and Luiz and McGinn trying to spring quick attacks with aggressive passing. This is the key to our slow, slow, slow, pounce style.

Barrenechea was one of the most successful players in Serie A last season in playing progressive passes (and was incredibly high if you focus on younger players) but he's doing it from a base of being a much more aggressive ball winner than Luiz. This doesn't take into account the quality of the passing, assists or goals but it does show that he's a good fit to do the job we were asking Luiz to once Kamara got injured.

I think he looks (on paper and in highlights) like a perfect Emery midfielder and I think he could become a surprisingly important player for us very quickly. I also think this is probably the same sort of analysis they did on Rogers.

As i said last night now I've looked at them both I'm not sure why McKennie was ever ahead of this guy as he looks much more suited to us and the premier league.

[Sexual Ealing]

As it stands I think Tielemans basically steps up as Luiz replacement and then we have Barkley as cover for him.

Might work, might not.

I think Barrenechea is a really interesting link given he's a pure DM and we certainly need to sign one to cover the first half of next season with Kamara out.

With his age he's someone to develop but not sure he's quite ready to step in and play DM in CL.

Before I start I apologise that this is gonig to be a post for the stats geeks.

Given how we play Emery places a lot of value on 'progression' with players like Rogers, JJ and Torres carrying the ball forward a lot and Luiz and McGinn trying to spring quick attacks with aggressive passing. This is the key to our slow, slow, slow, pounce style.

Barrenechea was one of the most successful players in Serie A last season in playing progressive passes (and was incredibly high if you focus on younger players) but he's doing it from a base of being a much more aggressive ball winner than Luiz. This doesn't take into account the quality of the passing, assists or goals but it does show that he's a good fit to do the job we were asking Luiz to once Kamara got injured.

I think he looks (on paper and in highlights) like a perfect Emery midfielder and I think he could become a surprisingly important player for us very quickly. I also think this is probably the same sort of analysis they did on Rogers.

As i said last night now I've looked at them both I'm not sure why McKennie was ever ahead of this guy as he looks much more suited to us and the premier league.

McKennie thought it was a queue for the buffet.

[LeeB]

Christ, I wish I was as fat as McKennie.

I reckon the real reason he's not coming is because he came on here looking to gauge our thoughts, and is now heading to Dundee, barefooted, with ranch sauce dribbling down his chin.

[Sexual Ealing]

Christ, I wish I was as fat as McKennie.

I reckon the real reason he's not coming is because he came on here looking to gauge our thoughts, and is now heading to Dundee, barefooted, with ranch sauce dribbling down his chin.

Nonsense. They discovered an ankle injury when they were turning him over in bed, having previously thought he didn't have any.

[jwarry]

The thing is all of these proposed deals are about generating cash before the end of the month.  We may not like what we are hearing but if bu the end of the month we have managed not to break PSR then as far as I can see next month we are into a new accounting period and I’m guessing Unai will be given millions to spend.  We just need to sit tight and sweat out June and then enjoy the ride in July ………….. he said fingers crossed!

[OCD]

As it stands I think Tielemans basically steps up as Luiz replacement and then we have Barkley as cover for him.

Might work, might not.

I think Barrenechea is a really interesting link given he's a pure DM and we certainly need to sign one to cover the first half of next season with Kamara out.

With his age he's someone to develop but not sure he's quite ready to step in and play DM in CL.

Before I start I apologise that this is gonig to be a post for the stats geeks.

Given how we play Emery places a lot of value on 'progression' with players like Rogers, JJ and Torres carrying the ball forward a lot and Luiz and McGinn trying to spring quick attacks with aggressive passing. This is the key to our slow, slow, slow, pounce style.

Barrenechea was one of the most successful players in Serie A last season in playing progressive passes (and was incredibly high if you focus on younger players) but he's doing it from a base of being a much more aggressive ball winner than Luiz. This doesn't take into account the quality of the passing, assists or goals but it does show that he's a good fit to do the job we were asking Luiz to once Kamara got injured.

I think he looks (on paper and in highlights) like a perfect Emery midfielder and I think he could become a surprisingly important player for us very quickly. I also think this is probably the same sort of analysis they did on Rogers.

As i said last night now I've looked at them both I'm not sure why McKennie was ever ahead of this guy as he looks much more suited to us and the premier league.

I don't think he was on the table as an option. There's mentions of Motta wanting to have a good look at him in pre-season so he's clearly quite well thought of. They've only put him on the table because of the McKennie situation and not wanting the Luiz deal to collapse.

[OCD]

The thing is all of these proposed deals are about generating cash before the end of the month.  We may not like what we are hearing but if bu the end of the month we have managed not to break PSR then as far as I can see next month we are into a new accounting period and I’m guessing Unai will be given millions to spend.  We just need to sit tight and sweat out June and then enjoy the ride in July ………….. he said fingers crossed!

None of us know our PSR position but even if we were on the wrong side of it, you don't even need to generate cash. It's book value you need.

[Clark W Griswold]

I think there’s a degree of recency bias and also a natural desire to think things are positive for us when it comes to Doug leaving. When he was playing his best role, he was absolutely sensational and vital to our brilliant first half of the season.

And after Kamara was out, he was mostly rubbish. I'm sorry, but he was. I'm not sure that a player whose form depends so much on another player is that irreplaceable. I love Doug, and wish he was staying, but I also think it's good business and I'd much rather sell him than Martinez, Watkins or Ramsey.

I’d sooner keep Doug than Ramsey but that’s because Ramsey is always fecking injured. Agree with you completely on the other 2 though. I also think that the £20m plus 2 players that was talked about last week is fine, the other 2 must be worth £45m so £65m for a player that won’t sign a new contract isn’t too bad. You’d hope for £80-£85 ideally but like others have said, if Unai does his usual magic with the two new players it’ll look like a good deal in hindsight.