Player Discipline, Bookings and Suspension

[curiousorange]

I wonder if it's the concentration and demands that means we get so many Yellow Cards as petulance and silly fouls creep in possible as a psychological release.

No, it's incompetent refereeing.

[paul_e]

4 yellow cards today v Luton Bailey, Luiz, Zaniolo, Rogers.
Means we have join second most yellow cards of 73 with Sheffield Utd Chelsea only team more with 79.
I wonder if it's the concentration and demands that means we get so many Yellow Cards as petulance and silly fouls creep in possible as a psychological release.

There's also the factor in of Martinez getting cards for time wasting luckily not booked today and will avoid 2 match suspension through yellow cards . Only a sending off would mean any suspension now. But he does overdo it at times and is most booked keeper for antics.

After 27 matches with the threshold of 10 yellows to 32 games players that get 10 bookings upto , and including, the 32nd game of the season will be suspended for two games

Yellow Cards Count and potential to be serve suspension with 5 games to go.

7:Luiz, McGinn (Kamara)

6 Cards:
Cash
Zaniolo

5 Cards :
Konsa
Digne

Not much point including Kamara on the list and why do you feel th eneed to single out Martinez, it's a really weird obsession you have.

[Footy-Vill]

After 27 matches with the threshold of 10 yellows to 32 games players that get 10 bookings upto , and including, the 32nd game of the season will be suspended for two games

Yellow Cards Count and potential to be serve suspension with 5 games to go.

7:Luiz, McGinn (Kamara)

6 Cards: Cash and Zaniolo (very suspicious the Italian bookings)

5 Cards :Konsa, Digne

[Footy-Vill]

I wonder if it's the concentration and demands that means we get so many Yellow Cards as petulance and silly fouls creep in possible as a psychological release.

No, it's incompetent refereeing.

Douglas Luiz kicking ball away today and not for first time.
Booked for dissent on occasions
Cash , Kamara and McGinn doing careless fouls and Zaniolo and Duran showing dissent as well as time wasting and also by Martinez tells a different story.
Be fair.
Have to see things right even if we do support the squad and players.

[Footy-Vill]

I let Watkins off and Bailey as they are clearly working for the team though there have been unfair occasions where they and other Villa players have been cautioned I don't see them as major discipline issues. Bailey has improved like everything about him as has Watkins.

Tielemans and Digne are another one who can do silly fouls though.

[Risso]

That's good of you.

Martinez has been booked once in ten games.

[curiousorange]

No more than any other team. At least two of our bookings today were nowhere near the threshold I'd expect for a booking.

[Footy-Vill]

That's good of you.

Martinez has been booked once in ten games.

No more than any other team. At least two of our bookings today were nowhere near the threshold I'd expect for a booking.

73 bookings so it's joint second most actually
One of chief reason started this thread as seen it as an issue actually.
Foresight

[curiousorange]

That's good of you.

Martinez has been booked once in ten games.

No more than any other team. At least two of our bookings today were nowhere near the threshold I'd expect for a booking.

73 bookings so it's joint second most actually
One of chief reason started this thread as seen it as an issue actually.
Foresight

But we're back to the question of how many of those bookings were because they met the threshold for a booking. If you're going to have a go at us for getting too many bookings, I'd rather discuss why other teams who seem to get away with so many bookable offences (like Luton's Mengi, to pick an example from very recent memory) are able to play the ref so much better than we can.

[Dave]

Zaniolo (very suspicious the Italian bookings)

*raises eyebrow*

[Footy-Vill]

4 yellow cards today v Luton Bailey, Luiz, Zaniolo, Rogers.
Means we have join second most yellow cards of 73 with Sheffield Utd Chelsea only team more with 79.
I wonder if it's the concentration and demands that means we get so many Yellow Cards as petulance and silly fouls creep in possible as a psychological release.

There's also the factor in of Martinez getting cards for time wasting luckily not booked today and will avoid 2 match suspension through yellow cards . Only a sending off would mean any suspension now. But he does overdo it at times and is most booked keeper for antics.

After 27 matches with the threshold of 10 yellows to 32 games players that get 10 bookings upto , and including, the 32nd game of the season will be suspended for two games

Yellow Cards Count and potential to be serve suspension with 5 games to go.

7:Luiz, McGinn (Kamara)

6 Cards:
Cash
Zaniolo

5 Cards :
Konsa
Digne

Not much point including Kamara on the list and why do you feel th eneed to single out Martinez, it's a really weird obsession you have.

We all saw Oliver have a word with Martinez in the first half too no avail.
If that was an opposing goal keeper we too would be disgruntled.
Oliver in awe of him as are many it's an advantage to us he's a player who can take liberties due to his high status . There are other players who get away with things at other clubs so we can say Martinez played at his own pace but getting warnings early on and having a bit of time waste at one and even two nil wasn't great
That's just how I see it.

[Steve67]

Really doesn't help with overzealous referees who seem to favour the other side and give them everything they ask for, every time one of them gets the slightest nudge. 

[curiousorange]

I'm mildly stunned you can't see that Martinez is actually treated as if he's a yellow card in waiting, so much more than any other keeper. Yes, he's a noticeable presence but it's because he's been given a reputation since the World Cup that he gets noticed, not usually because he's doing anything against the rules

[paul_e]

We all saw Oliver have a word with Martinez in the first half too no avail.
If that was an opposing goal keeper we too would be disgruntled.
Oliver in awe of him as are many it's an advantage to us he's a player who can take liberties due to his high status . There are other players who get away with things at other clubs so we can say Martinez played at his own pace but getting warnings early on and having a bit of time waste at one and even two nil wasn't great
That's just how I see it.

Oliver havign a word with him was taking the piss. I guarantee if you timed how long keepers take to clear the ball and compare that to how long Martinez had taken with his kicks before Oliver spoke to him there would be no significant difference. Why would he even have been trying to waste time with so much of the game to go and when we were totally dominant?

I'm mildly stunned you can't see that Martinez is actually treated as if he's a yellow card in waiting, so much more than any other keeper. Yes, he's a noticeable presence but it's because he's been given a reputation since the World Cup that he gets noticed, not usually because he's doing anything against the rules

This sums it up.

[itbrvilla]

I'm mildly stunned you can't see that Martinez is actually treated as if he's a yellow card in waiting, so much more than any other keeper. Yes, he's a noticeable presence but it's because he's been given a reputation since the World Cup that he gets noticed, not usually because he's doing anything against the rules

I saw a table and he's mid table