Loanwatch 2023/24

[DrGonzo]

At 23 the thought is probably that he won't be ready for the Prem for another year or two and that is too long.  There may well be a buy back/sell on clause, or both.  It's probably best for the player though, a settled situation at a good club will allow him to develop without the constant switching of coaching and playing styles.  I wish the lad all the best and hope he scores a consolation goal to make it 1-5 at the weekend.

[Mister E]

At 23 the thought is probably that he won't be ready for the Prem for another year or two and that is too long.  There may well be a buy back/sell on clause, or both.  It's probably best for the player though, a settled situation at a good club will allow him to develop without the constant switching of coaching and playing styles.  I wish the lad all the best and hope he scores a consolation goal to make it 1-5 at the weekend.

Reminds me a little of the Jonathan Hogg experience: Azaz is clearly a decent Championship player but has probably passed the age where we'd spend more time on his development. However, it's not inconceivable that he might join a club that then gets promoted and he proves himself to be a reliable if unspectacular player in said team.

[Matt C]

Well, we’ve definitely recalled him from his loan at Plymouth according to his own posts on social so he’s going somewhere. Not sure how comfortable I am in a world where “Footy Insider” is accurate though.

[jwarry]

Well, we’ve definitely recalled him from his loan at Plymouth according to his own posts on social so he’s going somewhere. Not sure how comfortable I am in a world where “Footy Insider” is accurate though.

https://x.com/argyle/status/1742621988286308517?s=46&t=bVpftFYUKG9FXkQ-mcgjPw

[Smithy]

If it's £2.5m as reported, then I think it's a lowball offer, but I can only assume the club either really needs the FFP help for a January signing (which would be surprising), or they simply don't think he's going to be worth much more than he currently is.

I hope there is some sort of sell-on clause involved, because if he continues being a goal-scoring midfielder at the top end of the Championship, he'll be worth a lot more than £2.5m in a year or two.

[paul_e]

If it's £2.5m as reported, then I think it's a lowball offer, but I can only assume the club either really needs the FFP help for a January signing (which would be surprising), or they simply don't think he's going to be worth much more than he currently is.

I hope there is some sort of sell-on clause involved, because if he continues being a goal-scoring midfielder at the top end of the Championship, he'll be worth a lot more than £2.5m in a year or two.

Looks like the contraxt extension in the summer was only for a year so the offer reflects the fact that he could go on a free in a few months.

[Risso]

If it's £2.5m as reported, then I think it's a lowball offer, but I can only assume the club either really needs the FFP help for a January signing (which would be surprising), or they simply don't think he's going to be worth much more than he currently is.

I hope there is some sort of sell-on clause involved, because if he continues being a goal-scoring midfielder at the top end of the Championship, he'll be worth a lot more than £2.5m in a year or two.

Looks like the contraxt extension in the summer was only for a year so the offer reflects the fact that he could go on a free in a few months.

It runs until 2025, so a year and a half.

[paul_e]

If it's £2.5m as reported, then I think it's a lowball offer, but I can only assume the club either really needs the FFP help for a January signing (which would be surprising), or they simply don't think he's going to be worth much more than he currently is.

I hope there is some sort of sell-on clause involved, because if he continues being a goal-scoring midfielder at the top end of the Championship, he'll be worth a lot more than £2.5m in a year or two.

Looks like the contraxt extension in the summer was only for a year so the offer reflects the fact that he could go on a free in a few months.

It runs until 2025, so a year and a half.

then £2.5m is ridiculously low, the contract was the only thing I could see to justify it.

[AV84]

Could there be add ons to that? They get promoted we get another million. I'd hope a sell on clause too. Maybe that's the only way Middlesbrough could afford it?

[pablo_picasso]

Carrick has stated that Azaz should be available to play against us on Sat...

There are a couple of small details to tie up & he will be a Boro player soon.

[itmustbe_it is!]

Carrick has stated that Azaz should be available to play against us on Sat...

There are a couple of small details to tie up & he will be a Boro player soon.

Nailed on to score then

[pablo_picasso]

Azaz has joined Boro for an "undisclosed fee".

If he went for anything under £10M, without a buy-back & sell on fee, then whoever did the negotiating needs shooting into the centre of the sun.

But as we don't know the details, (wonder why?), I will just wish the kid good luck & hope that he develops & we get a shitload of cash out of his development at a later date...


Moving on, Ben Chrisene has joined Blackburn on loan until the end of the season...

[PeterWithesShin]

A few million profit after being here two and a half years and never threatening to be near the first team. Decent business and I doubt we'll be lamenting him leaving. That said, good luck to him for the future.

[OCD]

End of the day, the market decides a player's value. You can point to examples of what other players went for but there was a buyer prepared to meet the asking price. If there was someone offering £10m, we wouldn't be entertaining offers of £2.5m. We recruited a player without paying a fee for him, he's been out on loan pretty much the whole time so won't have paid much in way of salary and then sold him for a couple of million. And we've probably got some clauses that cover us in the event that he develops further.

[SaddVillan]

Moving on, Ben Chrisene has joined Blackburn on loan until the end of the season...

Considered to be a rising star until he knackered a medial ligament when on loan at Kilmarnock last January, so he's lost 12 months of development.

This could be a great opportunity for him to show  Unai that he's worth bringing into the first team squad next season as backup to Moreno - if we decide to sell Digne.