Loanwatch 2023/24

[paul_e]

Anyone know how Morgan Sanson is getting on?

9 starts and 2 sub appearances out of 11, for Nice who are top of the table. You'd therefore assume he's doing quite well.

Solid ratings on whoscored and sofascore as well but no goals or assists.

[AV84]

Anyone know how Morgan Sanson is getting on?

9 starts and 2 sub appearances out of 11, for Nice who are top of the table. You'd therefore assume he's doing quite well.

Solid ratings on whoscored and sofascore as well but no goals or assists.

Nice have only scored 13 goals all season, which is half as many as the 2nd place team. But they've only conceded 4, so I guess they're quite solid defensively.

[eamonn]

I still want him back.

[Risso]

Anyone know how Morgan Sanson is getting on?

9 starts and 2 sub appearances out of 11, for Nice who are top of the table. You'd therefore assume he's doing quite well.

Solid ratings on whoscored and sofascore as well but no goals or assists.

Seems he's doing more of the Kamara role there than the Luiz one.

[coreyfeldman]

I still want him back.

Based on what? Sanson seems like someone who got better the more he didn't play for us.

Clearly not suited to prem imo

[eamonn]

I like his technique, he's comfortable with the ball and would offer more than the Donk and perhaps an inconsistent Tielemans when we want to give Luiz, Kamara or McGinn a breather.

Unlikely to happen at this stage, I know. He needed to/wanted proper game-time.
If Nice maintain their impressive start, we should at least get something half-decent for him in the summer.

[coreyfeldman]

I like his technique, he's comfortable with the ball and would offer more than the Donk and perhaps an inconsistent Tielemans when we want to give Luiz, Kamara or McGinn a breather.

Unlikely to happen at this stage, I know. He needed to/wanted proper game-time.
If Nice maintain their impressive start, we should at least get something half-decent for him in the summer.

Tielemans has been more than decent in his last few outings and shown much more than sanson ever did for us. He was here for ages and no manager ever fancied him, or played him and nor did he take any opportunity so let's move on eh

[dcdavecollett]

Sanson played for Nice against Montpelier (0-0) tonight.

[pablo_picasso]

I like Sanson & think there is a decent player in him, but I don't think he will ever show that at Villa. He will move permanently back to France soon, I would imagine.

Hopefully we don't just continue to loan him out until his contract ends & then end up getting fuck all for him.

French clubs piss me off with that. They charge us the earth when English clubs come calling for their players, (see Guendouzi as a prime example), but as soon as they want one of our players, they refuse to pay what the player is deemed worth & we end up having to loan out the player over & over & take a loss on the player.

Personally, I would rather we sold him for peanuts to a Championship club, rather than give in to the way some European clubs want to do business.

Especially as they then cry about the amount English clubs spend, after THEY charge us the earth for players they then ask for peanuts from another European country outside of England.

£40+ mil they wanted from us for Guendouzi.

They gave him to Lazio for £22m...

[dcdavecollett]

Levelling up, innit?

[Dave]

According to whom?

[pablo_picasso]

According to whom?

It was reported quite a lot during the summer.

I think the basis for a lot of the multiple copy & paste job articles came from L'equipe.

But I did get the amount wrong.

It was reported as €40m.

Not £40m.

So thats £35m for Villa versus £22m for Lazio...

So my point remains.

Obviously, there are no official figures, unless its Galatasaray trying to show their fans what a great deal they negotiated.

But the multiple reports during the summer pretty much quote the amounts above...

[Dave]

There were loads of reports, followed afterwards by their chairman saying we'd never bid for him in the first place.

So while one could say "well, we didn't bid because we wouldn't offer what they were asking", it does cast a little bit of doubt on all those reports that were oh so sure we were trying to buy him.

[pablo_picasso]

There were loads of reports, followed afterwards by their chairman saying we'd never bid for him in the first place.

So while one could say "well, we didn't bid because we wouldn't offer what they were asking", it does cast a little bit of doubt on all those reports that were oh so sure we were trying to buy him.

Didn't he say that in January?

But hey, you might be right & I might be wrong.

I don't think my overall point about European clubs charging Prem clubs more than other European clubs is incorrect though...

[AV82EC]

There were loads of reports, followed afterwards by their chairman saying we'd never bid for him in the first place.

So while one could say "well, we didn't bid because we wouldn't offer what they were asking", it does cast a little bit of doubt on all those reports that were oh so sure we were trying to buy him.

Didn't he say that in January?

But hey, you might be right & I might be wrong.

I don't think my overall point about European clubs charging Prem clubs more than other European clubs is incorrect though...

You are correct in that we get charged more but there’s a rather large element in that all PL clubs are considerably richer than all but a handful of clubs in Europe and they’re invariably keen buyers of talent and the market dictates that that means we’ll pay more. It might seem unfair but when our economic power is being used to buy all the talent it can surely be no surprise the owners of said talent will want a premium?