Pau Torres

[DrGonzo]

Call for the ball, deal with it.  Should have been left for Torres to thrash into the North Stand. 

[kippaxvilla2]

There have not been too many Villa player In recent years who have been linked to Real Madrid - so he must be doing something right!

today probably isn't a great day for bigging up Real Madrid

Ashley Westwood was once linked. No sorry I meant Ashley Cole.

[Somniloquism]

I thought Torres was poor against PSG and I’d have Mings over him every time.

Poor in what way? The Emi not dealing with the ball, or the other 93 minutes he did no wrong and should have had two assists if Asensio had finished?

[PaulWinch again]

Yeah dreadful….

[VillaTim]

Across the 2 legs we didn't defend well enough . 5 goals conceded it's hard to win with those stats . That's not just on Torres though it was a collective thing.

[OCD]

Reflected our season really...conceded too many and wasn't as clinical as we needed to be.

[ChicagoLion]

We seem to concede less with Mings in the team.

[Somniloquism]

We do but then we also haven't played PSG with Mings in the team. As pointed out there is some consideration that MAYBE Mings might or might not  have prevented the first goal at VP, doubt very much on the second though. And in the first leg the argument could be we might not have conceded as many chances to PSG (29) with Mings in the side, but then the other side of that is we must have defended well enough to concede only three with two being world class unstoppable strikes.

[andyh]

I thought Torres was poor against PSG and I’d have Mings over him every time.

Poor in what way? The Emi not dealing with the ball, or the other 93 minutes he did no wrong and should have had two assists if Asensio had finished?

Ahhhh, those Torres blinkers in operation again (not having a go at the poster)

For some reason people won’t see that he gives the ball away nearly as often as he makes his passes.
He was caught in possession a few times the other night and made some very poor decisions .

I do like Torres, but he is certainly not the impeccable defender that some make him out to be.

[LeeB]

I thought Torres was poor against PSG and I’d have Mings over him every time.

Poor in what way? The Emi not dealing with the ball, or the other 93 minutes he did no wrong and should have had two assists if Asensio had finished?

Ahhhh, those Torres blinkers in operation again (not having a go at the poster)

For some reason people won’t see that he gives the ball away nearly as often as he makes his passes.
He was caught in possession a few times the other night and made some very poor decisions .

I do like Torres, but he is certainly not the impeccable defender that some make him out to be.

Yeah, Emery must be a fool.

[Villafirst]

In a straight choice between the two, I'd prefer Tyrone in defence. He's more forceful, and not a bad passer of the ball. Hopefully he plays tomorrow to mark Isak.

[PaulWinch again]

I thought Torres was poor against PSG and I’d have Mings over him every time.

Poor in what way? The Emi not dealing with the ball, or the other 93 minutes he did no wrong and should have had two assists if Asensio had finished?

Ahhhh, those Torres blinkers in operation again (not having a go at the poster)

For some reason people won’t see that he gives the ball away nearly as often as he makes his passes.
He was caught in possession a few times the other night and made some very poor decisions .

I do like Torres, but he is certainly not the impeccable defender that some make him out to be.

Yeah, Emery must be a fool.

Indeed and it’s like some have forgot we just beat arguably the best team in Europe from 2-0 down. Pau was key to that.

[PaulWinch again]

I think the Torres “blinkers” invert the other way. Because he’s not a blood and thunder defender some make out he’s hopeless. He really isn’t - is he perfect physically in terms of aerial duels? No, but his all round game is key to us and he’s not the bad defender some make out.

[Gareth]

I think the Torres “blinkers” invert the other way. Because he’s not a blood and thunder defender some make out he’s hopeless. He really isn’t - is he perfect physically in terms of aerial duels? No, but his all round game is key to us and he’s not the bad defender some make out.

Spot on Paul

They all have their attributes and their faults…having 4 centre halves who you can pair as horses for courses is the ideal.  Would I have wanted to see Ty on the ball with Dembele pressing at pace absolutely not but it doesn’t mean i think he is anything other than a key member of our squad

[VillaTim]

I think the Torres “blinkers” invert the other way. Because he’s not a blood and thunder defender some make out he’s hopeless. He really isn’t - is he perfect physically in terms of aerial duels? No, but his all round game is key to us and he’s not the bad defender some make out.

And Mings distribution isn't as bad as some make out . Agree with your point also about Mings being the better defender . We won't win trophies with a leaky defence .