UEFA Europa Conference League - Alkmaar, Legia and Zrinjski

[Clampy]

Xg is just a load of bollocks.

[trinityoap]

Are there any stats for rolling your sleeves up or looking people in the eye?

[Risso]

Xg is just a load of bollocks.

The probability of you saying that was 0.82

[pauliewalnuts]

Xg is just a load of bollocks.

I don't think it's a load of bollocks, but I do think that, as with all data measures, it is not so much what it measures, it is about how it is interpreted.

In this case of this video it is being seen as an ultimate form of truth.

For example, the guy just sees matches where we score more than our XG and then declares that means we were 'lucky', then applies the same evaluation to half a dozen other matches.

[Ads]

0.6 against Man United. I felt Bailey and Ramsey's goals were ones that ought to have been taken and they duly were. There's nothing wrong with XG, but all the methodology behind it, doesn't alter the subjective nature of it.

[pablo_picasso]

Xg is just a load of bollocks.

I don't think it's a load of bollocks, but I do think that, as with all data measures, it is not so much what it measures, it is about how it is interpreted.

In this case of this video it is being seen as an ultimate form of truth.

For example, the guy just sees matches where we score more than our XG and then declares that means we were 'lucky', then applies the same evaluation to half a dozen other matches.

All it means is that their xG prediction was wrong & he is using that shitty data to push his agenda...

[aldridgeboy]

I’ve never understood Xg. Or even see the point.
While I’m at it , I’ve never seen the point in Rugby, when they put the number of “ phases“. on the screen

5th phase. So what ? Let me know when they’ve scored.

[pauliewalnuts]

I’ve never understood Xg. Or even see the point.
While I’m at it , I’ve never seen the point in Rugby, when they put the number of “ phases“. on the screen

5th phase. So what ? Let me know when they’ve scored.

I've never seen the point in Rugby.

[paul_e]

I’ve never understood Xg. Or even see the point.
While I’m at it , I’ve never seen the point in Rugby, when they put the number of “ phases“. on the screen

5th phase. So what ? Let me know when they’ve scored.

I've never seen the point in Rugby.

Naughty!

The number of phases is relevant because play becomes less structured as the number of phases increases. It's not a particularly important stat but it can explain why a winger ends up one-on-one with a prop, for example.

[Clampy]

I’ve never understood Xg. Or even see the point.
While I’m at it , I’ve never seen the point in Rugby, when they put the number of “ phases“. on the screen

5th phase. So what ? Let me know when they’ve scored.

I've never seen the point in Rugby.

I've only been through it on the train.

[LeeB]

He described Spurs away as one of the 'lucky' games.

We controlled that match from start to finish. Not much luck about that.

That was the one that stood out for me, with only the Leeds game at home where I thought we had a bit of luck on the balance of the game.

[ChicagoLion]

I’ve never understood Xg. Or even see the point.
While I’m at it , I’ve never seen the point in Rugby, when they put the number of “ phases“. on the screen

5th phase. So what ? Let me know when they’ve scored.

I've never seen the point in Rugby.

I've only been through it on the train.

Wise.

[algy]

Are there any stats for rolling your sleeves up or looking people in the eye?

This is really where xG falls down, it's doesn't hold a candle against rSU, LitE or the little known yN (Yeah no)

Having analysed all* of our games, we had a high rSU under Bruce but low LitE. Gerrard increased LitE dramatically, but our rSU dropped off a cliff. The key thing with Emery is he runs long, intensive sessions where players have to continually roll their sleeves up whilst looking him in the eye until Emery says "Yeah no" at them.

With some of the best rSU, LitE and yN stats in the league, it's absolutely no surprise that we've gone rocketing up the table.



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[Sexual Ealing]

This data is meaningless unless we know whether players have their boots on. All I've ever asked is that they put their boots on. You can't ask more, or less, than that.

[algy]

This data is meaningless unless we know whether players have their boots on. All I've ever asked is that they put their boots on. You can't ask more, or less, than that.

That's true, it's easy to overlook xBO (expected boots on). The best players in the world always have an xBO of close to 2.0, and it's really the level our players need to hit too.