Unai Emery

[Footy-Vill]

The only concern I have at the moment is playing out from the back against a hard press. We got away with it at tottenham because it was very much a slow press.

As you say harder challenges to come but I’m sure that will be something Emery will continue to work on. It’s a fundamental of football now so the players who struggle will be replaced over time.

Yes, for this reason, I believe Kamara at centre back is a possibility in the future, but only when we have all the necessary ball-playing and possession-based players in midfield.
I brought up this point in the Kamara thread but it seemed lost on some and didn't seem to follow that I was saying he could play there and it's where I think he'd be most comfortable , not that he should right now.
The wonderful think is he is a player that can recieve the ball and retain it and Emery would want more players like this.

Nothing was lost on anybody. People just had a different opinion to you. This is a forum. It happens…

Yes, I understand about that whole viewpoint thing and people differ.
However, I haven't heard a lot of opinions to the discussion regarding how effective Kamara would be as a centre half in Emery's system. He would be fantastic. Do you agree or disagree that he wouldn't make a decent centre back? Nobody was ready to consider or respond but instead create a narrative about daft nonsense claiming I was suggesting moving him into defense right now! Or just ho on about him as a midfielder.
I do wonder if people are even aware he's a midfielder and a defender.

Actually, so it was lost by some because you and others believed I was saying Kamara should be playing centre back at this time. It was the mistake by yourselves, and many seemed to think that was the only thing that was being said. Though i'm sure your'll understand that happens as you say its a forum.

I stand by my assertion that he would make a great centre half and that he possesses all the necessary qualities.
That struck me as more of a standalone entity than in the whole concept of team line up right now.

And it's interesting that people are seeing how we play out from the back here on Emery's thread, which is exactly part of the message in the discussion I tried to open up about Kamara playing at centre back and clearly wasnt understood by you and others due to the responses given.

[AV82EC]

Obviously it’s early days, & I don’t want to get carried away only for Villa to spectacularly break my heart again, as per the norm, but he really does look like he knows what he is doing. It’s fabulous to see tactics. It’s incredible to see an actual team. And this is with another persons squad. I’m trying to imagine what it’s like with his own players… Only time will tell if this positivity lasts, but early on, he looks like an actual football manager…

The important bit is when he cocks it up which he invariably will, they all do, he isn’t lambasted immediately.

[Footy-Vill]

Obviously it’s early days, & I don’t want to get carried away only for Villa to spectacularly break my heart again, as per the norm, but he really does look like he knows what he is doing. It’s fabulous to see tactics. It’s incredible to see an actual team. And this is with another persons squad. I’m trying to imagine what it’s like with his own players… Only time will tell if this positivity lasts, but early on, he looks like an actual football manager…

The important bit is when he cocks it up which he invariably will, they all do, he isn’t lambasted immediately.

Okay, Picasso. You're not familiar with Emery and his accomplishments?
Well, he's proven, so I'm not in the camp of questioning him with 'early days' talk or other statements like he looks like an actual football manager, as I was very familiar with Emery before he came to Villa.

However, because this is a forum like you had to tell me??, there will be differing points of view or a lack of awareness at times like on your or others' part about Emery as a football manager. He is well-known in football. So rest assured that he will only benefit us.
He has my full support with his systems, lineups, and whatever he chooses.

Pablo, have a happy new year!
With this guy, yes the FA Cup is a real possibility.

[pablo_picasso]

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The only concern I have at the moment is playing out from the back against a hard press. We got away with it at tottenham because it was very much a slow press.

As you say harder challenges to come but I’m sure that will be something Emery will continue to work on. It’s a fundamental of football now so the players who struggle will be replaced over time.

Yes, for this reason, I believe Kamara at centre back is a possibility in the future, but only when we have all the necessary ball-playing and possession-based players in midfield.
I brought up this point in the Kamara thread but it seemed lost on some and didn't seem to follow that I was saying he could play there and it's where I think he'd be most comfortable , not that he should right now.
The wonderful think is he is a player that can recieve the ball and retain it and Emery would want more players like this.

Nothing was lost on anybody. People just had a different opinion to you. This is a forum. It happens…

Yes, I understand about that whole viewpoint thing and people differ.
However, I haven't heard a lot of opinions to the discussion regarding how effective Kamara would be as a centre half in Emery's system. He would be fantastic. Do you agree or disagree that he wouldn't make a decent centre back? Nobody was ready to consider or respond but instead create a narrative about daft nonsense claiming I was suggesting moving him into defense right now! Or just ho on about him as a midfielder.
I do wonder if people are even aware he's a midfielder and a defender.

Actually, so it was lost by some because you and others believed I was saying Kamara should be playing centre back at this time. It was the mistake by yourselves, and many seemed to think that was the only thing that was being said. Though i'm sure your'll understand that happens as you say its a forum.

I stand by my assertion that he would make a great centre half and that he possesses all the necessary qualities.
That struck me as more of a standalone entity than in the whole concept of team line up right now.

And it's interesting that people are seeing how we play out from the back here on Emery's thread, which is exactly part of the message in the discussion I tried to open up about Kamara playing at centre back and clearly wasnt understood by you and others due to the responses given.

Just because people disagree with you does not mean that they “don’t understand”. I understand what you said. I can read. People are aware he can play there, I said he has done for Marseille in the other thread. So it’s not a unique quick thinking genius on your part. He has played there, he has done ok there, but he is better in CDM. Do I think he would do a good job there? Probably. But I think he would do a better job exactly where he is. The discussion is ongoing. The only problem is, you think that you are on some other level of thinking when other people say “no, it’s not the best thing for either him or the club to put our best CDM since Boateng into a different position. Now or in the future. It took us long enough to find this CDM.” If we want to play out from the back, then we should leave Kamara exactly where he is & purchase a CB that is capable of playing out from the back. Because either way, we have to purchase somebody. Another search for a top quality reasonably priced CDM if we move Kamara. Or a ball playing CB if we leave Kamara where he is. This discussion & these points have already been had & been made in the other thread. Running away & claiming nobody understands you is not a part of any element of discussion. You did not discover the fact that Kamara can & has played at CB. So stop saying that nobody understood what you were saying.

[pablo_picasso]

Obviously it’s early days, & I don’t want to get carried away only for Villa to spectacularly break my heart again, as per the norm, but he really does look like he knows what he is doing. It’s fabulous to see tactics. It’s incredible to see an actual team. And this is with another persons squad. I’m trying to imagine what it’s like with his own players… Only time will tell if this positivity lasts, but early on, he looks like an actual football manager…

The important bit is when he cocks it up which he invariably will, they all do, he isn’t lambasted immediately.

Okay, Picasso. You're not familiar with Emery and his accomplishments?
Well, he's proven, so I'm not in the camp of questioning him with 'early days' talk or other statements like he looks like an actual football manager, as I was very familiar with Emery before he came to Villa.

However, because this is a forum like you had to tell me??, there will be differing points of view or a lack of awareness at times like on your or others' part about Emery as a football manager. He is well-known in football. So rest assured that he will only benefit us.
He has my full support with his systems, lineups, and whatever he chooses.

Pablo, have a happy new year!
With this guy, yes the FA Cup is a real possibility.

I know of his previous accomplishments. But none of those have been made at Villa & I have been a Villa fan long enough to never expect things to go well. We have a long & sorry history of building up expectations only to destroy our hearts with spectacular failure. Which is why I am a little tentative with any positive expectations.

[Footy-Vill]

Obviously it’s early days, & I don’t want to get carried away only for Villa to spectacularly break my heart again, as per the norm, but he really does look like he knows what he is doing. It’s fabulous to see tactics. It’s incredible to see an actual team. And this is with another persons squad. I’m trying to imagine what it’s like with his own players… Only time will tell if this positivity lasts, but early on, he looks like an actual football manager…

The important bit is when he cocks it up which he invariably will, they all do, he isn’t lambasted immediately.

Okay, Picasso. You're not familiar with Emery and his accomplishments?
Well, he's proven, so I'm not in the camp of questioning him with 'early days' talk or other statements like he looks like an actual football manager, as I was very familiar with Emery before he came to Villa.

However, because this is a forum like you had to tell me??, there will be differing points of view or a lack of awareness at times like on your or others' part about Emery as a football manager. He is well-known in football. So rest assured that he will only benefit us.
He has my full support with his systems, lineups, and whatever he chooses.

Pablo, have a happy new year!
With this guy, yes the FA Cup is a real possibility.

I know of his previous accomplishments. But none of those have been made at Villa & I have been a Villa fan long enough to never expect things to go well. We have a long & sorry history of building up expectations only to destroy our hearts with spectacular failure. Which is why I am a little tentative with any positive expectations.

How can he make any accomplishments at Villa though if he has only managed less than a handful of matches? 
Can only judge him based on his prior successes; it seemed to me that you weren't familiar with him by the way you initially write about him.

All points now have been taken into consideration and understood with reference , including on our club's expectations, so I can see why you or anyone else might be wary of a new manager. even if you still don't understand my BK principles and ideas, I'd like to think in time you can see how talented Emery is as a coach is.

But accept that it is only results and performances that can define this.

[pablo_picasso]

I will see how talented he is for Villa if & when he shows me at Villa. I expect nothing. I hope for everything. The truth will probably fall somewhere in-between. As for the “understanding” thing again, that is showing me that you have nothing else to add to the discussion regarding the counter points made to your “BK principles & ideas”.

[Dante Lavelli]

it's great to have a manager that is actually using coaching and tactics to win games and improve players.

It's been years since we could say this.

Feels great doesn’t it.  Add in the generosity and ambition of our owners too and… dammit, it’s the hope that kills you!

[olaftab]

I am going to wait till end of Feb before praising Unai. He's done ok but I am still fuming about 4-2 loss at OT.

[Luffbralion]

I like absolutely everything I've seen so far from Unai....apart from that shiny coat.

[Brazilian Villain]

I like absolutely everything I've seen so far from Unai....apart from that shiny coat.

It's not great, is it? He must have got in the sales on www.seandyche.com.

[Dante Lavelli]

How are we lining up with/without the ball? 

On the TV graphics they suggest we’re playing 442 but neither McGinn or Buendia strike me wide players in a traditional 442, plus Bailey is arguably a winger rather than a striker.

[clash city rocker]

I like absolutely everything I've seen so far from Unai....apart from that shiny coat.

It's not great, is it? He must have got in the sales on www.seandyche.com.

If he keeps getting results he could turn up in an old cement bag for all I care.

[RamboandBruno]

While waiting for the last 3 subs to come on, he had a full tactical discussion with Mings (from distance), and you could see this was something planned and discussed at training, as Mings walked away with nods and full understanding of who was going where and for why.

It has been so long since I've seen this in game management that I can't remember who was the last manager able to do this?

Not everything he does will work, but with his record to date, there should be more success than failure.

Looking forward to the next few years with U.E. in charge.

I love the fact that he was making changes here there and everywhere in the last 20-25 mins, some forced through injury some not and i didn’t have a scooby doo what he was doing. But unlike some of our other managers and notably the last one, Unai completely does know what his doing and what he wants from his tweaks to formation and player changes. Conte makes a change to change the course of the game, Unai negates immediately with an unexpected substitution (Cash for Bailey) he’s a chess master.
We have a manager that knows far more than us and it feels great. 

[ChicagoLion]

How are we lining up with/without the ball? 

On the TV graphics they suggest we’re playing 442 but neither McGinn or Buendia strike me wide players in a traditional 442, plus Bailey is arguably a winger rather than a striker.

They showed a graphic on MOTD 2 which showed pretty much 442 but with SJM and Buendia pretty narrow/ inverted.