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Re: Crest Review
« Reply #1395 on: March 24, 2023, 05:22:15 PM »
As for the left/right lion, it’s the shock to the system. It’s not something that we associate with. We weren’t consulted about it. No one even prepared the fanbase for this possibility. From memory, the fan survey that we did only mentioned whether the lion needed to look detailed or plain. My understanding of it that the modern way of thinking is that facing right is ‘forward’, thus matching the buttons on your remote control. The heraldic principles, that the badge is based on, go out of the window. Anyway enough chit-chat, I thought I’ll look at examples the lion through time with what is available. Note that some of the 1887 team had the Birmingham Coat of Arms on the shirt. Its only until 1973 that the club consistently used a same lion on shirts, programmes and club correspondence.


Did the fanbase really need to be prepared for it? It's not like it makes a difference to any of our lives.

I'm still dealing with the shock of it all. The change in direction of the lion caused me to break out in hives, endiure sleepness nights, turn to opioids for a short time. I felt alone. Villa hadn't prepared me for this decision. I will bounce back. I have faith in myself and those around me to come out of this crisis.

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Re: Crest Review
« Reply #1396 on: March 24, 2023, 05:40:23 PM »
As for the left/right lion, it’s the shock to the system. It’s not something that we associate with. We weren’t consulted about it. No one even prepared the fanbase for this possibility. From memory, the fan survey that we did only mentioned whether the lion needed to look detailed or plain. My understanding of it that the modern way of thinking is that facing right is ‘forward’, thus matching the buttons on your remote control. The heraldic principles, that the badge is based on, go out of the window. Anyway enough chit-chat, I thought I’ll look at examples the lion through time with what is available. Note that some of the 1887 team had the Birmingham Coat of Arms on the shirt. Its only until 1973 that the club consistently used a same lion on shirts, programmes and club correspondence.


Did the fanbase really need to be prepared for it? It's not like it makes a difference to any of our lives.
To be fair until recently we had "prepared" as a motto ...

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Re: Crest Review
« Reply #1397 on: March 24, 2023, 05:40:40 PM »
As for the left/right lion, it’s the shock to the system. It’s not something that we associate with. We weren’t consulted about it. No one even prepared the fanbase for this possibility. From memory, the fan survey that we did only mentioned whether the lion needed to look detailed or plain. My understanding of it that the modern way of thinking is that facing right is ‘forward’, thus matching the buttons on your remote control. The heraldic principles, that the badge is based on, go out of the window. Anyway enough chit-chat, I thought I’ll look at examples the lion through time with what is available. Note that some of the 1887 team had the Birmingham Coat of Arms on the shirt. Its only until 1973 that the club consistently used a same lion on shirts, programmes and club correspondence.


I realised when I saw this that I’ve actually already adjusted to the right facing lion and now the left facing ones look wrong!

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Re: Crest Review
« Reply #1398 on: March 24, 2023, 05:59:33 PM »
Some weird looking lions there.

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Re: Crest Review
« Reply #1399 on: March 24, 2023, 06:03:51 PM »
If it helps, the Fédération Française de Football has had its 'cock' logo dressing both left and right over the years. And Les Bleus have won two world cups and were within the width of Dibu's shinbone of winning a third.

Yeah but they lost. Losers!

Bad ain't bitter, just disappointed.

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Re: Crest Review
« Reply #1400 on: March 24, 2023, 06:16:10 PM »
I realised when I saw this that I’ve actually already adjusted to the right facing lion and now the left facing ones look wrong!

Agreed, most people will just get used to it. Looking at those previous badges the new one is the best of them as I much prefer its darker colours and minimal use of yellow. The one thing I would change is that some of the previous lions had a more aggressive, attacking posture whereas the new one looks like he's Morris dancing.

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Re: Crest Review
« Reply #1401 on: March 24, 2023, 06:16:25 PM »
I’ve tried to form an opinion on Liongate but I’m clearly not a serious enough fan because I just can’t find it in myself to care.

I think their movies are usually pretty good.

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Re: Crest Review
« Reply #1402 on: March 24, 2023, 06:19:59 PM »
I realised when I saw this that I’ve actually already adjusted to the right facing lion and now the left facing ones look wrong!

Agreed, most people will just get used to it. Looking at those previous badges the new one is the best of them as I much prefer its darker colours and minimal use of yellow. The one thing I would change is that some of the previous lions had a more aggressive, attacking posture whereas the new one looks like he's Morris dancing.

I like it.


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Re: Crest Review
« Reply #1403 on: March 24, 2023, 06:24:17 PM »
It reminds me of Peter Crouch doing his 'Robot' dance whilst being attacked by a large bee.

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Re: Crest Review
« Reply #1404 on: March 24, 2023, 06:51:33 PM »
As for the left/right lion, it’s the shock to the system. It’s not something that we associate with. We weren’t consulted about it. No one even prepared the fanbase for this possibility. From memory, the fan survey that we did only mentioned whether the lion needed to look detailed or plain. My understanding of it that the modern way of thinking is that facing right is ‘forward’, thus matching the buttons on your remote control. The heraldic principles, that the badge is based on, go out of the window. Anyway enough chit-chat, I thought I’ll look at examples the lion through time with what is available. Note that some of the 1887 team had the Birmingham Coat of Arms on the shirt. Its only until 1973 that the club consistently used a same lion on shirts, programmes and club correspondence.


Did the fanbase really need to be prepared for it? It's not like it makes a difference to any of our lives.

Tell that to the bloke I used to work with who had the 'old' lion tattooed 18 inches tall on his back! That's one hell of an expensive alteration.

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Re: Crest Review
« Reply #1405 on: March 24, 2023, 06:57:58 PM »
All of this assumes that everyone wants to wear the current crest, whatever that may be.
As long as I can remember I've worn a pin badge with the old round design.

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Re: Crest Review
« Reply #1406 on: March 24, 2023, 07:16:01 PM »
Imagine the internet being around in ‘85 when Henson dropped the logo from the shirt. I loved that kit as a ten year old kid but I guess their was many a raised eyebrow.

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Re: Crest Review
« Reply #1407 on: March 24, 2023, 07:27:34 PM »
Imagine the internet being around in ‘85 when Henson dropped the logo from the shirt. I loved that kit as a ten year old kid but I guess their was many a raised eyebrow.

I had the full kit in yellow, wore it with pride all around L'Estartit on holiday after relegation.

Got a few strange looks as a 40 year old 2016.

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Re: Crest Review
« Reply #1408 on: March 24, 2023, 08:43:54 PM »
Imagine the internet being around in ‘85 when Henson dropped the logo from the shirt. I loved that kit as a ten year old kid but I guess their was many a raised eyebrow.

I had the full kit in yellow, wore it with pride all around L'Estartit on holiday after relegation.

Got a few strange looks as a 40 year old 2016.
Ha!

You got me for a minute. I knew you wasn’t 40 when we was originally relegated in that kit.

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Re: Crest Review
« Reply #1409 on: March 24, 2023, 10:02:57 PM »
The Queen faced left, and the King faces right. Maybe our future king had a word....

 


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