Crest Review

[Richard E]

Subjective maybe, but I mean...I think considering the FA Cup bigger is a radically niche view!

I dunno. Real Madrid and Bayern Munich see themselves as elite clubs but neither have ever won the FA Cup.

[Toronto Villa]

The FA cup is important in England and to us old fuckers because of our history in it, and the fact we haven’t won it in forever. To footballers, managers, coaches, certainly the newer generation of football followers around the globe, and for the revenues it generates, the CL is by far the biggest competition in club football in the world.

[The Edge]

Can someone explain why the star is on our badge is ‘so shit’ ?
I can’t for the life of me understand why so many are offended by it.

- It implies we're not going to win it again as to do so would mean changing the crest again

- No big club does it

- It's lopsided

- It reeks of an inferiority complex and, 'can you believe we won something once?' which is smalltime

- Its an imitation of something done in continental Europe for domestic honours which again makes us look smalltime

I agree with all of that and I feel the same about the banners on the North Stand with the commentary of our goal scored by Peter Withe. To me it's all a bit small-time and implies that we don't think we will ever win it again.

[Richard E]

We probably won’t.

[pauliewalnuts]

True, but we should at least pretend to believe we can.

[Monty]

I'm not massively pro-star even, I just don't get the antipathy.

[KevinGage]

The solution to this - as it was when the discussion first came up in the Lerner era - is to have a star above the round badge. The one that faces the correct way.

Celtic and various others have done it and they are no lesser clubs for it.

But apparently there is some poxy rule from the FA/ PL or whoever preventing this. Good to see they've got their priorities straight.

FWIW, I never minded the latter day Ellis badge from 1992 onwards - particularly the early incarnations. It looked at its best in that 1992/3 season and when it was set within a larger shield in the 1995/6 season and 1997/98 on the Reebok kits. Regal, almost. 

It was only when we started dicking about with it in the noughties that it started to look like a dog's dinner.

[Toronto Villa]

I'm not massively pro-star even, I just don't get the antipathy.

Yep. I’m the same.

[pauliewalnuts]

The solution to this - as it was when the discussion first came up in the Lerner era - is to have a star above the round badge. The one that faces the correct way.

Celtic and various others have done it and they are no lesser clubs for it.

But apparently there is some poxy rule from the FA/ PL or whoever preventing this. Good to see they've got their priorities straight.

FWIW, I never minded the latter day Ellis badge from 1992 onwards - particularly the early incarnations. It looked at its best in that 1992/3 season and when it was set within a larger shield in the 1995/6 season and 1997/98 on the Reebok kits. Regal, almost. 

It was only when we started dicking about with it in the noughties that it started to look like a dog's dinner.

What Celtic and Rangers do is completely different, though, so not sure the 'no lesser club for it' thing really comes into it, they wear stars above their badges.

Like you said, we're not allowed to, so we shoehorn one in to the actual badge, which is then smaller than the ones clubs wear above theirs, so has the dual effect of forcing the EC win in as part of the badge in a 'we'll never do this again, do we tell you often enough that we won the big cup once?' way, whilst also looking shit because nobody else knows what it is, and it's too small to have any meaning.

I'm not rabidly annoyed about it, my preference is not to wear it, but what I don't like so much is the wider question around how much we go on and on about having won the European Cup, like it's Solihull Moors winning a PL championship or something miraculous.

Yeah, I am proud of it, yeah it was great, yeah it's an important part of our history, but if we're a big club like we always say we are, there's a point it gets embarassing to hear that "we even conquered Europe in 1982" line every 30 seconds. It was 42 years ago now.

[edgysatsuma89]

We just need the lion inside one massive star.

[Toronto Villa]

We just need the lion inside one massive star.

Facing the right way. Whatever that is.

[edgysatsuma89]

We just need the lion inside one massive star.

Facing the right way. Whatever that is.

In a hammock, looking up.

[Simon Page]

I don't care about the star.

There, I've had my say.

You tease.

Everyone, Ealing's mock-up and 12,000-word rationale incoming.

[Sexual Ealing]

I don't care about the star.

There, I've had my say.

You tease.

Everyone, Ealing's mock-up and 12,000-word rationale incoming.

Guido Fawkes exclusive: Semi-Acknowledged Aston Villa Poster in Badge Star Counterfactual - "it's a bit Muslim, isn't it?" says fearless hairy teller-like-it-is.

[Toronto Villa]

Our crests on the shirt through the years since 1957

https://x.com/dave_hitchman/status/1789693736198267296?s=46