Crest Review

[Smirker]

Can someone explain why the star is on our badge is ‘so shit’ ?
I can’t for the life of me understand why so many are offended by it.

- It implies we're not going to win it again as to do so would mean changing the crest again

- No big club does it

- It's lopsided

- It reeks of an inferiority complex and, 'can you believe we won something once?' which is smalltime

- Its an imitation of something done in continental Europe for domestic honours which again makes us look smalltime

[Smirker]

If we must have a star, why don’t we just do the same as the England kit, have one embroidered above the badge in the same colour of the shirt, so it’s subtle and leaves the badge clutter free.

Or just do what genuinely big clubs do and not permanently change the badge to honour one trophy win.

[andyh]

I suppose the star discussion is all about opinions.
I wonder if Juve or Bayern Munich fans have the same discussions about their stars ?

[edgysatsuma89]

They at least do it the right way.

[andyh]

I am sure there is a reason why are star is incorporated rather than above.
Either way, personally, I like it.
It shows we are in an exclusive group that most fans would give their eye teeth to be in.

There are clubs here ‘cough - arsenal’ who still can’t have one 😂

[pauliewalnuts]

I suppose the star discussion is all about opinions.
I wonder if Juve or Bayern Munich fans have the same discussions about their stars ?

They aren’t incorporated into their badges though, they’re displayed above, and are worn according to rules set by their national FAs.

So Bayern’s badges don’t refer to European Cups, they refer to 20 bundesliga titles, each badge represents five titles.

I can’t remember the Italian set up but am pretty sure theirs refer to championships won, too. If you google the Juventus badge and see it in any context other then on players shirts and kit, there are no stars. 

The only reason I know (or think I know) this is from the last time there was an argument on here about it.

[Smirker]

I suppose the star discussion is all about opinions.
I wonder if Juve or Bayern Munich fans have the same discussions about their stars ?

As I said, those countries have a ruling domestically where every five leagues gives you a star and all the clubs do it. Five or ten, can't remember. But it isn't the same as what we've done where we've took it upon ourselves to shoehorn one in. I wish people could understand the difference.

I would have zero objection to it if say, the Champions League introduced a similar thing where every win means you have a star above your crest, so when we play CL games we'd have the star. But actually changing your crest to replicate that look, just no.

[edgysatsuma89]

I suppose the star discussion is all about opinions.
I wonder if Juve or Bayern Munich fans have the same discussions about their stars ?

As I said, those countries have a ruling domestically where every five leagues gives you a star and all the clubs do it. Five or ten, can't remember. But it isn't the same as what we've done where we've took it upon ourselves to shoehorn one in. I wish people could understand the difference.

I think Andy understands the difference, he just still likes having the star there to represent our European win. I completely disagree with him and I agree that it does feel a bit "small-time".

[Smirker]

I am sure there is a reason why are star is incorporated rather than above.
Either way, personally, I like it.
It shows we are in an exclusive group that most fans would give their eye teeth to be in.

There are clubs here ‘cough - arsenal’ who still can’t have one 😂

Arsenal could put a gold star in for their unbeaten league seasonnd then say the same thing to us. That'd be smalltime too.

[KRS]

I wouldn’t be so opposed to the star being on the badge if was incorporated in to the design centrally/symmetrically so it doesn’t look like a cat playing with a ball…as such, it’s totally crap. We don’t need to have (part of) our honours list on the badge or shirt, so why not just have it on the back of the neck if it needs to be featured on the shirt…or even better, not at all.

[Smirker]

Nobody who is pro-star has ever been able to explain why we shouldn't also have another 7 for our leagues and 7 for our FA Cups, and another 5 for the League Cups.

If you think it'd be stupid to do that, then logically it is also stupid to do it for the European Cup.

[Sexual Ealing]

I don't care about the star.

There, I've had my say.

[Monty]

Nobody who is pro-star has ever been able to explain why we shouldn't also have another 7 for our leagues and 7 for our FA Cups, and another 5 for the League Cups.

If you think it'd be stupid to do that, then logically it is also stupid to do it for the European Cup.

It's the Biggest Cup. The club equivalent of the World Cup. The number of clubs that can boast to have won it is considerably lower than for the FA Cup or what have you.

There isn't a standardised use of the star in football heraldry, but that one star represents the fact that Villa aren't just some common-or-garden relatively successful English club like Everton, but are in fact genuine members of the elite.

[Smirker]

Nobody who is pro-star has ever been able to explain why we shouldn't also have another 7 for our leagues and 7 for our FA Cups, and another 5 for the League Cups.

If you think it'd be stupid to do that, then logically it is also stupid to do it for the European Cup.

It's the Biggest Cup. The club equivalent of the World Cup. The number of clubs that can boast to have won it is considerably lower than for the FA Cup or what have you.

There isn't a standardised use of the star in football heraldry, but that one star represents the fact that Villa aren't just some common-or-garden relatively successful English club like Everton, but are in fact genuine members of the elite.

If we truly were we wouldn't need to tell anyone.

Biggest cup is subjective anyway. And it's only been going since the 50s, the FA Cup is the oldest in the world. So there's that.

(Obviously I do think Villa are an elite club, I'd just like us to act like one.)

[Monty]

Subjective maybe, but I mean...I think considering the FA Cup bigger is a radically niche view!