Quote from: ChicagoLion on April 08, 2022, 10:50:21 PMQuote from: Beard82 on April 08, 2022, 10:38:19 PMQuote from: ChicagoLion on April 08, 2022, 10:33:29 PMQuote from: john e on April 08, 2022, 06:47:49 PMIf our medium term aim is to break into the top 6we will need2 central defenders2 midfielders one being a CDM1 forward preferably goalscoringimoI think this is pretty accurate and why I think Top 6 is unlikely.Maybe, but maybe in the medium term 1 or 2 of those can be filled with homegrown talent, which maybe makes it less unlikely ? Or maybe thats wishful thinkingIt’s the wishful thinking that keeps you going.Getting youngsters to transition to the PL level is one thing, but for them to be PL elite level is pretty rare. Our last in a generation fucked off up the M6.So not exactly corporation omnibus frequency.Hopefully they will be more frequent - Ramsey for his age is the better than any other 20 year old villa player I have seen for since probably Barry. Think some of those on Loan could be pretty special. It’s a difficult path to walk in terms of blooding them
Quote from: Beard82 on April 08, 2022, 10:38:19 PMQuote from: ChicagoLion on April 08, 2022, 10:33:29 PMQuote from: john e on April 08, 2022, 06:47:49 PMIf our medium term aim is to break into the top 6we will need2 central defenders2 midfielders one being a CDM1 forward preferably goalscoringimoI think this is pretty accurate and why I think Top 6 is unlikely.Maybe, but maybe in the medium term 1 or 2 of those can be filled with homegrown talent, which maybe makes it less unlikely ? Or maybe thats wishful thinkingIt’s the wishful thinking that keeps you going.Getting youngsters to transition to the PL level is one thing, but for them to be PL elite level is pretty rare. Our last in a generation fucked off up the M6.So not exactly corporation omnibus frequency.
Quote from: ChicagoLion on April 08, 2022, 10:33:29 PMQuote from: john e on April 08, 2022, 06:47:49 PMIf our medium term aim is to break into the top 6we will need2 central defenders2 midfielders one being a CDM1 forward preferably goalscoringimoI think this is pretty accurate and why I think Top 6 is unlikely.Maybe, but maybe in the medium term 1 or 2 of those can be filled with homegrown talent, which maybe makes it less unlikely ? Or maybe thats wishful thinking
Quote from: john e on April 08, 2022, 06:47:49 PMIf our medium term aim is to break into the top 6we will need2 central defenders2 midfielders one being a CDM1 forward preferably goalscoringimoI think this is pretty accurate and why I think Top 6 is unlikely.
If our medium term aim is to break into the top 6we will need2 central defenders2 midfielders one being a CDM1 forward preferably goalscoringimo
Quote from: robleflaneur on April 09, 2022, 12:44:28 AMQuote from: Risso on April 08, 2022, 11:24:31 AMFix the midfield, and the defence will look better. Mings is a very good defender most of the time, but the more pressure he’s under, the more chance he has to drop a bollock. We need to keep the ball much, much better than we do, with McGinn usually being the chief culprit in giving it away. Selling Konsa would be madness.This.Yep I strongly agree with this. I think there’s some good players in the squad - including midfielders - but they do not suit Gerrard’s 4321. Change two of the three midfielders and I reckon the rest will improve.
Quote from: Risso on April 08, 2022, 11:24:31 AMFix the midfield, and the defence will look better. Mings is a very good defender most of the time, but the more pressure he’s under, the more chance he has to drop a bollock. We need to keep the ball much, much better than we do, with McGinn usually being the chief culprit in giving it away. Selling Konsa would be madness.This.
Fix the midfield, and the defence will look better. Mings is a very good defender most of the time, but the more pressure he’s under, the more chance he has to drop a bollock. We need to keep the ball much, much better than we do, with McGinn usually being the chief culprit in giving it away. Selling Konsa would be madness.
If McGinn plays further up the pitch, he will have to weigh in with his fair share of goals and assists, I wonder if we have better players at the club who already play that role, or if McGinn can adapt his game to the level that Gerrard wants. That DCM role is absolutely key to what we achieve next season.
That Haaland looks decent, we should go for him
Not wishing to be controversial for the sake of it but I see it exactly the oppositeall our central defenders are so poor with the ball with no composure that they automatically put more pressure on the midfield players, midfield is having to drop back pick up the ball do the work that a decent ball playing central defender could be doingThey are so slow and ponderous, There can’t be a player in the premiership that has passed the ball back to the goalkeeper more than Konsa, For me playing the ball out from our first third is our biggest weakness atm, It’s agonising to watch at timesIn summary fix the central defence and the midfield will look a lot better
Quote from: john e on April 09, 2022, 10:11:39 AMNot wishing to be controversial for the sake of it but I see it exactly the oppositeall our central defenders are so poor with the ball with no composure that they automatically put more pressure on the midfield players, midfield is having to drop back pick up the ball do the work that a decent ball playing central defender could be doingThey are so slow and ponderous, There can’t be a player in the premiership that has passed the ball back to the goalkeeper more than Konsa, For me playing the ball out from our first third is our biggest weakness atm, It’s agonising to watch at timesIn summary fix the central defence and the midfield will look a lot betterThe central defenders aren't as poor on the ball as McGinn is. He made at least 3 absolute kamikaze passes yesterday, he's atrocious. When the team lined up, Luiz was sitting just in fron the of the back four, with Ramsey and McGinn a lot more advanced in a sort of 'V' formation. McGinn was atrocious though. He's slow, clearly overweight and he does nothing of note at all. Gives the ball away, doesn't create much and doesn't score goals.
Yes sorry John, I've clearly ignored McGinn getting into double figures every year to make a point.