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Author Topic: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?  (Read 44094 times)

Offline Holte L2

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Re: Watkins, Ings or both?
« Reply #375 on: July 23, 2022, 03:21:26 PM »
Could the vote include the option for neither?
That would get my vote.

Neither gets my vote too.

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Re: Watkins, Ings or both?
« Reply #376 on: July 23, 2022, 03:22:37 PM »
Poll reset and updated.

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Re: Watkins, Ings or both?
« Reply #377 on: July 23, 2022, 03:34:12 PM »
No votes for either at the moment!

Both were poor first half, with Ings especially anonymous.

Offline Rigadon

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #378 on: July 23, 2022, 08:09:48 PM »
I like both players.  If I had to choose one to keep it'd owe Watkins for his work rate.  But neither are good enough for where we are supposed to be headed. 

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #379 on: July 23, 2022, 08:10:52 PM »
If we do keep one / both of them, we must stop trying to play them at the same time. 

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #380 on: July 23, 2022, 08:19:40 PM »
I’d be so tempted to try Archer from the start, he just looks in form and ready to go. It might make these two step up as well.

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #381 on: July 23, 2022, 08:26:49 PM »
I can’t fault Watkins’ work rate. He is a trier. Ball control and shots on target are not as good as they should be though. Ings, i think he’s a better footballer but he’s never as involved.  It’s like trying to chose which is the best looking identical twin.

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #382 on: July 23, 2022, 10:38:17 PM »
Watkins shouldn’t be written off. He didn’t have a great season, but I still think he’s a good player.

Also wasn’t Ings first season at Southampton not all that? And then he had a great second season.

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #383 on: July 23, 2022, 10:56:23 PM »
Ings and Watkins can't both have a great season, it'll be one or the other if we're lucky. 90% of the time they play together we look shite as a team, so I'm hoping Gerrard doesn't keep forgetting this fact.

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #384 on: July 23, 2022, 11:13:15 PM »
I can’t fault Watkins’ work rate. He is a trier. Ball control and shots on target are not as good as they should be though. Ings, i think he’s a better footballer but he’s never as involved.  It’s like trying to chose which is the best looking identical twin.
That’s easy - it’s the one with the lowest standards

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #385 on: July 24, 2022, 12:51:19 AM »
With the use of five substitutions this season, I think both are, at best, impact subs.

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #386 on: July 24, 2022, 12:52:39 AM »
We looked far more dangerous when both were off the pitch.

Offline Goldie.7

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #387 on: July 24, 2022, 01:19:19 AM »
Voted Neither. No pace vs no control equals no thanks.

Ings looks nowhere near fit enough to me and Watkins final third control is consistently disastrous. As seen here: https://streamable.com/zct73w

I mean what is he even trying to do there? Nope!




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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #388 on: July 24, 2022, 01:57:33 AM »
I like Ollie, but if he's going to play, it has to be as a lone striker.

Ings just doesn't fit in a two with Ollie. He may well fit in a two with another striker, however.

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #389 on: August 14, 2022, 07:56:00 AM »
They performed admirably as a duo and individually against Everton.
Perhaps when we play a back three, Gerrard will use a diamond formation with both of them starting up top.
Or maybe it's the home matches where he favours them both.
Will monitor this to see what SG likes doing.

After the game, he mentioned how Ings had been isolated at times the previous week. So versus Everton Watkins had been a huge help not only by setting up the goal but also by all the running off the ball and helping press the opposition high up the field.

Great tactics by Gerrard and in the attacking sense worked well. With Ings getting goal by assist from Watko

 


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