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Offline Footy-Vill

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #390 on: August 26, 2022, 01:27:02 PM »
This season
2 starts each

1 goal each in the league (Ings also 1 in the cup)
Assists. Watkins 2 vs Ings 0

XG Ings 0.52 Vs Watkins 0.87

Shots per 90:
Ings 3.8 vs Watkins 1.8

Shots in the penalty zone per 90:
Ings 3.23 vs Watkins 1.76

« Last Edit: August 26, 2022, 01:32:47 PM by Footy-Vill »

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #391 on: August 26, 2022, 08:16:34 PM »
As West Ham play 3 at the back is SG more likely to play Ings and Watkins together to occupy their defence.

Bailey then in for the Arsenal and Man City matches as a support.
With Ings and Watkins rotated for them.
Is that what others thinking Gerrard will do?

« Last Edit: August 26, 2022, 08:26:30 PM by Footy-Vill »

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #392 on: August 26, 2022, 09:52:36 PM »
As West Ham play 3 at the back is SG more likely to play Ings and Watkins together to occupy their defence.

Bailey then in for the Arsenal and Man City matches as a support.
With Ings and Watkins rotated for them.
Is that what others thinking Gerrard will do?



They've only played 3 at the back once, the rest of the time it's been a flat back four. Last time out against Brighton they played their usual 4-2-3-1, with Rice and Soucek as the pivots and Bowen, Benrahma and Fornals as the attacking three behind Antonio.

The big worry as usual is just how shitty our midfield is. If we go 4-3-3 with the midfield 3 including Ramsey and McGinn, we'll lose.

We need to match them up, 4-2-3-1, and decide between either Watkins OR Ings.


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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #393 on: August 26, 2022, 09:53:35 PM »
Is there a double pivot in there, anywhere?

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #394 on: August 26, 2022, 09:54:12 PM »
McGinn is bound to start.

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #395 on: August 26, 2022, 10:11:40 PM »
Is there a double pivot in there, anywhere?

What's with the piss taking?

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #396 on: August 26, 2022, 10:17:55 PM »
Is there a double pivot in there, anywhere?

What's with the piss taking?

How is that piss taking?

Have I missed something?

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #397 on: August 26, 2022, 10:18:35 PM »
Is there a double pivot in there, anywhere?

What's with the piss taking?

Dear me. Sense of humour failure, Mr. Touchy? Chill a bit.

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #398 on: August 26, 2022, 10:20:07 PM »
Is there a double pivot in there, anywhere?

What's with the piss taking?

How is that piss taking?

Have I missed something?

It's not piss-taking at all. It's just something I don't really understand so I'm trying to be a little light-hearted about it.

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #399 on: August 26, 2022, 10:21:31 PM »
Is there a double pivot in there, anywhere?

What's with the piss taking?

Dear me. Sense of humour failure, Mr. Touchy? Chill a bit.

I'm perfectly chilled, I'm just asking a direct question. You made a point of referencing the double box I referenced last night too. I'm wondering if I'm missing something?

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #400 on: August 26, 2022, 10:23:19 PM »
I don't understand that, either.

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #401 on: August 26, 2022, 10:26:37 PM »
It's not piss-taking at all. It's just something I don't really understand so I'm trying to be a little light-hearted about it.

That's the double pivot.

*nods knowingly*


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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #402 on: August 26, 2022, 10:32:11 PM »
4222 creates consistent boxes of players to press the opposition all over the pitch. It's a high energy formation as a result. I think West Ham are at their weakest when you narrow them up and overrun them with numbers in these central spaces (based on their 2 home defeats). The base of the midfield (the double pivot) in Kamara and Luiz would combine with the pair of 10s in Pip and Emi to press or alternatively the later with the forwards, or one of the pivot and a full back etc etc. You have to be able to switch play and be high energy etc.

Was just a musing, it won't happen.

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #403 on: August 26, 2022, 10:47:33 PM »
Does it mean your full backs have to be pretty damn good?

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Re: Watkins, Ings, both or neither?
« Reply #404 on: August 26, 2022, 10:53:12 PM »
We have good full backs and they'd be free to get on the gallop as they both do now.

 


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