The January New Manager Warchest Transfer Thread

[Clark W Griswold]

This time last year Suarez was scoring 11 goals in 9 games in La Liga.

It all depends on the player, some remain fresher than others. Young has been fine when called upon this season. Zola was the best player on the park one afternoon at VP when he was 36. Giggs and Sheringham still had something to offer at 40. Pires was clearly over the hill at 37. At the moment Suarez is still very good.

[CT Villan]

In my experience living on a Spanish speaking island in Tenerife it is perfectly acceptable to say "Hola Moreno" (hello black guy) to a black, mixed race or darker skinned person. It is a friendly and acceptable greeting. But in the case of Suarez back in the day he didn't use the term "Moreno" he used the term "Negrito" which doesn't need much translating even if you aren't familiar with the Spanish language.

But isn't '-ito' used in Spanish to indicate affection, it certainly is in my family. Not sure if it's still derogatory with Negrito though.

[ChicagoLion]

Has even 1 reliable source been quoted regarding the Suarez connection?

[Monty]

I have it on good authority from an Argentinian friend that 'negrito' over there isn't exactly super-classy, but really doesn't sound like it does in English. That obviously speaks to structural racism issues in those countries, and I've read some points of view that say they wish people paid more attention to language like this, as it reflects those inequalities and lasting bigotries (especially in Brazil, which let's-not-forget abolished slavery in 1888!). But before issuing blanket condemnations of one culture based on my own I'd rather pause and ask if I'm missing something.

In short, I've read a bunch of people's views on either side on this subject, all from over there, and I'd rather listen to them rather than butting in.

Not that I want Suarez, I think he's not at all the front-foot high-energy forward for the system Gerrard's building. I think it would be a bit jobs-for-the-boys, not to mention a bit of a 'Stevie's Liverpool Tribute Act' vibe which would make me be sick out of my eyes.

[Drummond]

Has even 1 reliable source been quoted regarding the Suarez connection?

Yes

[chrisw1]

I have it on good authority from an Argentinian friend that 'negrito' over there isn't exactly super-classy, but really doesn't sound like it does in English. That obviously speaks to structural racism issues in those countries, and I've read some points of view that say they wish people paid more attention to language like this, as it reflects those inequalities and lasting bigotries (especially in Brazil, which let's-not-forget abolished slavery in 1888!). But before issuing blanket condemnations of one culture based on my own I'd rather pause and ask if I'm missing something.

In short, I've read a bunch of people's views on either side on this subject, all from over there, and I'd rather listen to them rather than butting in.

Not that I want Suarez, I think he's not at all the front-foot high-energy forward for the system Gerrard's building. I think it would be a bit jobs-for-the-boys, not to mention a bit of a 'Steven's Liverpool Tribute Act' vibe which would make me be sick out of my eyes.

Good post Monty, on both issues.

[Risso]

I have it on good authority from an Argentinian friend that 'negrito' over there isn't exactly super-classy, but really doesn't sound like it does in English. That obviously speaks to structural racism issues in those countries, and I've read some points of view that say they wish people paid more attention to language like this, as it reflects those inequalities and lasting bigotries (especially in Brazil, which let's-not-forget abolished slavery in 1888!). But before issuing blanket condemnations of one culture based on my own I'd rather pause and ask if I'm missing something.

In short, I've read a bunch of people's views on either side on this subject, all from over there, and I'd rather listen to them rather than butting in.

Not that I want Suarez, I think he's not at all the front-foot high-energy forward for the system Gerrard's building. I think it would be a bit jobs-for-the-boys, not to mention a bit of a 'Steven's Liverpool Tribute Act' vibe which would make me be sick out of my eyes.

You'll get nowhere with nuanced posts like that!

[paul_e]

We have an argentinian guy at work (who's lived in Germany for years) so I asked what he thought of that article and he said he would've sided with Suarez over it when he first came to Europe but now he wouldn't say anything like that. I suspect suarez probably feels the same.

[Mister E]

According to the Sky Spanish football expert - Suarez could be on his way to us as he has cannot get a game for his current club
He was asked what type of player that Villa would be getting, the expert replied -
That Suarez is not the player you remember at Liverpool and he does not do a lot of running but if put the ball in the box for him he will score goals.

isn't that what Ings it's supposed to do?

[Toronto Villa]

After the misery we have all enjoyed I’ll take being sick from the Liverpool love in to score goals, win a lot of games and get into Europe again. We can then find the new Suarez and other top players. The Stevie G glow of "come join me" wears off if we are arsing around 10th again so let’s take some short term high quality fixes, possible vomit inducing Kop love in and get ourselves in a better spot to push on.

[Chris Smith]

I agree with Monty and suspect (and hope) that is this is all just agent inspired touting of a player looking for a move.

[frank black]

I agree with Monty and suspect (and hope) that is this is all just agent inspired touting of a player looking for a move.

And maybe leaks on our side to make us look like a great place to be for good players that we are after this window

[Footy-Vill]

Are Villa the Club that registered 30m interest in Bissoma?
The much coveted DM.

[Rigadon]

After the misery we have all enjoyed I’ll take being sick from the Liverpool love in to score goals, win a lot of games and get into Europe again. We can then find the new Suarez and other top players. The Steven glow of come join me for wears off if we are arising around 10th again so let’s take some short term possible vomit inducing Kop love in and get ourselves in a better spot to push on.

That's it for me too.  It's undoubted that Gerrard has a lure that wasn't here before under Dean (which is not a criticism of him in any way), but Coutinho is his mate as is Suarez I'm guessing.  I'm totally fine with Gerrard using his illustrious patting career while great players he played with are still kicking footballs.  Once that ship's sailed, we need to be in Europe (ideally the CL) and a genuine draw in our own right for world class players, and to get there we will need as many great players as we can get regardless of resale value.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Are Villa the Club that registered 30m interest in Bissoma?
The much coveted DM.

I thought the same. From the way we do business I wouldn't be surprised.