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Offline kippaxvilla2

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Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
« Reply #600 on: March 27, 2023, 12:12:17 PM »
The cost of living the international break has made us Cashless
A cash withdrawal ironically would not have done so.

Last thing we need atm.

He'll have a late fitness cheque

Noted.

At least its not a BACS injury.

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Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
« Reply #601 on: March 27, 2023, 01:48:20 PM »
The cost of living the international break has made us Cashless
A cash withdrawal ironically would not have done so.

Last thing we need atm.

He'll have a late fitness cheque

Noted.

At least its not a BACS injury.
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Must be difficult for him being injured on top of being refused in shops

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Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
« Reply #602 on: March 27, 2023, 01:48:22 PM »
Really pissed off with this, he was great against Bournemouth and Chelsea have plenty of pace in the side.

We usually get fucked by international breaks, one way or the other.

I'm curious how well Cash was prepared for the international, as a calf strain so early on at 9 minutes is usually self-inflicted due to a lack of stretching and warm-up. What's going on there?
Lost in translation?

The most common causes of calf strains, by a huge degree, are to do with planting your heel and either having your carry you over it or trying to turn whilst you still have that forward momentum. I haven't seen what happened to Cash but if it looks like either of those then it has nothing to do with stretching or warming-up.

Also just to be clear when did you study physiotherapy? I'm about 24 years on from the year I did at uni (before switching degree) and I'm far from an expert but I picked up enough to know basics (and then my own knee and ankle problems mean I know loads more about those). I ask because you speak with such conviction about things like this so I'd like to know if you have any actual expertise or if you are, as with other topics, just making it up.

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Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
« Reply #603 on: March 27, 2023, 02:06:02 PM »
Well, I'm more familiar with horse physiology than human physiology, but I'm well-versed in several areas of these things not an expert but high end competence, and the muscle injury was most likely caused by the weights or type of training they were doing in the Poland camp, which was different from Villa, and then adapting caused an issue that was aggravated by playing.

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Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
« Reply #604 on: March 27, 2023, 02:07:11 PM »
Well, I'm more familiar with horse physiology than human physiology, but I'm well-versed in several areas of these things not an expert but high end competence, and the muscle injury was most likely caused by the weights or type of training they were doing in the Poland camp, which was different from Villa, and then adapting caused an issue that was aggravated by playing.

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He's having a mare.

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Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
« Reply #605 on: March 27, 2023, 02:08:50 PM »
Well, I'm more familiar with horse physiology than human physiology, but I'm well-versed in several areas of these things not an expert but high end competence, and the muscle injury was most likely caused by the weights or type of training they were doing in the Poland camp, which was different from Villa, and then adapting caused an issue that was aggravated by playing.

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"Most likely". Stop making stuff up, FFS!

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Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
« Reply #606 on: March 27, 2023, 02:18:17 PM »
Well, I'm more familiar with horse physiology than human physiology, but I'm well-versed in several areas of these things not an expert but high end competence, and the muscle injury was most likely caused by the weights or type of training they were doing in the Poland camp, which was different from Villa, and then adapting caused an issue that was aggravated by playing.

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"Most likely". Stop making stuff up, FFS!

Think you need to view his posts with more equinimity.

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Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
« Reply #607 on: March 27, 2023, 02:28:07 PM »
Well, I'm more familiar with horse physiology than human physiology, but I'm well-versed in several areas of these things not an expert but high end competence, and the muscle injury was most likely caused by the weights or type of training they were doing in the Poland camp, which was different from Villa, and then adapting caused an issue that was aggravated by playing.

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"Most likely". Stop making stuff up, FFS!

Think you need to view his posts with more equinimity.

The ataraxy will grow.

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Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
« Reply #608 on: March 27, 2023, 02:50:37 PM »
Well, I'm more familiar with horse physiology than human physiology, but I'm well-versed in several areas of these things not an expert but high end competence, and the muscle injury was most likely caused by the weights or type of training they were doing in the Poland camp, which was different from Villa, and then adapting caused an issue that was aggravated by playing.

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"Most likely". Stop making stuff up, FFS!

Think you need to view his posts with more equinimity.

The ataraxy will grow.

That horse has bolted.  Its not the mane reason for the injury though.

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Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
« Reply #609 on: March 27, 2023, 03:12:17 PM »
Well, I'm more familiar with horse physiology than human physiology, but I'm well-versed in several areas of these things not an expert but high end competence, and the muscle injury was most likely caused by the weights or type of training they were doing in the Poland camp, which was different from Villa, and then adapting caused an issue that was aggravated by playing.

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"Most likely". Stop making stuff up, FFS!

Think you need to view his posts with more equinimity.

The ataraxy will grow.

That horse has bolted.  Its not the mane reason for the injury though.

Who the fuck does he think he is?

Jurgen Clop?

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Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
« Reply #610 on: March 27, 2023, 03:15:57 PM »
Well, I'm more familiar with horse physiology than human physiology, but I'm well-versed in several areas of these things not an expert but high end competence, and the muscle injury was most likely caused by the weights or type of training they were doing in the Poland camp, which was different from Villa, and then adapting caused an issue that was aggravated by playing.

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Again, a calf strain from a change in training would be highly unlikely unless the medical team/coaching are utterly incompetent because your calf is one of the more difficult muscles to overwork in that way.

Muscle issues from excessive training are normally in the back, neck, hamstrings or triceps. Most other muscle issues (especially if they occur during exercise) are more impact/stress related, as above calf are particularly vulnerable to the same stresses as ankles so it's sharp stops/turns which puts excessive force on the achilles and calf.

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Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
« Reply #611 on: March 27, 2023, 03:16:14 PM »
So many posts get a bite!

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Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
« Reply #612 on: March 27, 2023, 04:08:11 PM »
Well, I'm more familiar with horse physiology than human physiology, but I'm well-versed in several areas of these things not an expert but high end competence, and the muscle injury was most likely caused by the weights or type of training they were doing in the Poland camp, which was different from Villa, and then adapting caused an issue that was aggravated by playing.

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Again, a calf strain from a change in training would be highly unlikely unless the medical team/coaching are utterly incompetent because your calf is one of the more difficult muscles to overwork in that way.

Muscle issues from excessive training are normally in the back, neck, hamstrings or triceps. Most other muscle issues (especially if they occur during exercise) are more impact/stress related, as above calf are particularly vulnerable to the same stresses as ankles so it's sharp stops/turns which puts excessive force on the achilles and calf.
Well actually yes however that's general terms and we are dealing with a footballer so that's the context and therefore it's conceivable that he overworked his calf, and we all know injury can occur from overuse.
Calf injuries are common amoung footballers as you have to take the context
A proper warm-up and regime pre match must take place to help reduce an injury happening . To me, it's telling it was less than 10 minutes in the game and injured.
And if there was an issue that first arose in training, it's not that it's incompetence by Poland, but a different program was implemented or that Cash could have misunderstood given it was by Polish instruction.
Anyway, let us await the published results of the scan and what grade tear it is.

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Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
« Reply #613 on: March 27, 2023, 04:10:06 PM »
Well, I'm more familiar with horse physiology than human physiology, but I'm well-versed in several areas of these things not an expert but high end competence, and the muscle injury was most likely caused by the weights or type of training they were doing in the Poland camp, which was different from Villa, and then adapting caused an issue that was aggravated by playing.

I claim my 5 pounds in Cash!
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"Most likely". Stop making stuff up, FFS!

Think you need to view his posts with more equinimity.

The ataraxy will grow.

That horse has bolted.  Its not the mane reason for the injury though.

Who the fuck does he think he is?

Jurgen Clop?

Neigh chance!

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Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
« Reply #614 on: March 27, 2023, 04:20:46 PM »
Well, I'm more familiar with horse physiology than human physiology, but I'm well-versed in several areas of these things not an expert but high end competence, and the muscle injury was most likely caused by the weights or type of training they were doing in the Poland camp, which was different from Villa, and then adapting caused an issue that was aggravated by playing.

I claim my 5 pounds in Cash!
Thank You.

Again, a calf strain from a change in training would be highly unlikely unless the medical team/coaching are utterly incompetent because your calf is one of the more difficult muscles to overwork in that way.

Muscle issues from excessive training are normally in the back, neck, hamstrings or triceps. Most other muscle issues (especially if they occur during exercise) are more impact/stress related, as above calf are particularly vulnerable to the same stresses as ankles so it's sharp stops/turns which puts excessive force on the achilles and calf.

It's conceivable that he overworked his calf, and we all know injury can occur from overuse.
A proper warm-up and regime pre match must take place to help reduce an injury happening . To me, it's telling it was less than 10 minutes in the game and injured.
And if there was an issue that first arose in training, it's not that it's incompetence by Poland, but a different program was implemented or that Cash could have misunderstood given it was by Polish instruction.
Anyway, let us await the published results of the scan and what grade tear it is.

conceivable maybe but highly unlikely. My point really is that, as often happens with you, you've ignored a simple and far more likely explanations to create a theory that lets you push an agenda. Easily the most likely explanation here is that he turned sharply, felt some discomfort and when it didn't go after a little while he signalled to the bench and they took him off as a precaution to avoid more serious damage. It's most likely he'll be out for around 2 weeks and will be back for Newcastle with Forest probably coming slightly too soon but still a possibility.

I've seen nothing to suggest it's a tear though, everything I've seen online suggests a strain which the Polish team have already had checked before sending him back to the club.

 


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