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Title: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: alanclare on November 10, 2021, 07:20:07 AM
What a brilliant tale he has to tell.

Matty Cash: ‘I’ve got relations in Poland but I’ve never been there’
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/nov/09/matty-cash-relations-in-poland-but-never-been-aston-villa-full-back?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Title: Re: Matts Cash - Polish international
Post by: Nunkin1965 on November 10, 2021, 07:44:15 AM
Brilliant story.
I can't wait to see him play and I'm sure his really positive contribution to the team is only going to help him on the international stage.
Title: Re: Matts Cash - Polish international
Post by: darren woolley on November 10, 2021, 11:24:34 AM
Great story he deserves this chance.














Title: Re: Matts Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on November 10, 2021, 02:54:34 PM
He'll no doubt get his head turned and will be angling for a move to Gornik Zabrze in no time.
Title: Re: Matts Cash - Polish international
Post by: dcdavecollett on November 11, 2021, 01:25:59 AM
As part of the deal, will they have to play a friendly at Villa Park, like in 1971?
Title: Re: Matts Cash - Polish international
Post by: Small Rodent on November 11, 2021, 09:58:33 AM
He'll no doubt get his head turned and will be angling for a move to Gornik Zabrze in no time.

Gornik present a goat to the visiting team each game.

Title: Re: Matts Cash - Polish international
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on November 11, 2021, 10:01:59 AM
Happy Narodowe Swieto Nieplodleglosc, Matty
Title: Re: Matts Cash - Polish international
Post by: WarszaVillan on November 11, 2021, 10:28:15 AM
He could join the fash about to traditionally cause havoc in the capital city.
Title: Re: Matts Cash - Polish international
Post by: Small Rodent on November 11, 2021, 11:18:26 AM
He could join the fash about to traditionally cause havoc in the capital city.

My Polish relations seem to think Kacper Kozlowski will be the next big thing in attacking midfield, a bit Smith-Rowe. Is it them just being Pogon Szczecin fans and bigging him up? Is it worth Cash getting "in his ear"?
Title: Re: Matts Cash - Polish international
Post by: rougegorge on November 11, 2021, 12:52:13 PM
If he plays, I wonder if Poland will be using the long throw tactic?
Title: Re: Matts Cash - Polish international
Post by: Richard E on November 11, 2021, 12:53:43 PM
Happy Narodowe Swieto Nieplodleglosc, Matty

That's easy for you to say.
Title: Re: Matts Cash - Polish international
Post by: WarszaVillan on November 11, 2021, 03:39:00 PM
He could join the fash about to traditionally cause havoc in the capital city.

My Polish relations seem to think Kacper Kozlowski will be the next big thing in attacking midfield, a bit Smith-Rowe. Is it Thema just being Pogon Szczecin fans and bigging him up? Is it worth Cash getting "in his ear"?

Haven't seen much of him but I've heard the same. He's still very young.
Title: Re: Matts Cash - Polish international
Post by: Small Rodent on November 11, 2021, 05:17:20 PM
He could join the fash about to traditionally cause havoc in the capital city.

My Polish relations seem to think Kacper Kozlowski will be the next big thing in attacking midfield, a bit Smith-Rowe. Is it Thema just being Pogon Szczecin fans and bigging him up? Is it worth Cash getting "in his ear"?

Haven't seen much of him but I've heard the same. He's still very young.

Has a few caps already at 19.
Title: Re: Matts Cash - Polish international
Post by: Sexual Ealing on November 11, 2021, 05:25:12 PM
He could join the fash about to traditionally cause havoc in the capital city.

My Polish relations seem to think Kacper Kozlowski will be the next big thing in attacking midfield, a bit Smith-Rowe. Is it them just being Pogon Szczecin fans and bigging him up? Is it worth Cash getting "in his ear"?

I hope his mother has been giving him intensive lingo lessons if that's going to work!
Title: Re: Matts Cash - Polish international
Post by: SaddVillan on November 12, 2021, 09:11:04 PM
Matteusz Cashkowski on for Poland - 63rd minute
Title: Re: Matts Cash - Polish international
Post by: Nunkin1965 on November 12, 2021, 09:15:21 PM
Brilliant. Nice one Matts.
Title: Re: Matts Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 12, 2021, 09:15:35 PM
My Polish relations seem to think Kacper Kozlowski will be the next big thing in attacking midfield, a bit Smith-Rowe.

Has been linked with Dundee in the past.
Title: Re: Matts Cash - Polish international
Post by: FatSam on November 12, 2021, 09:18:28 PM
Andorra had a player sent off in the 1st minute according to BBC scores. I need to know more about that.
Title: Re: Matts Cash - Polish international
Post by: john e on November 12, 2021, 09:22:21 PM
Andorra had a player sent off in the 1st minute according to BBC scores. I need to know more about that.

The Andorian Vinny Jones
Title: Re: Matts Cash - Polish international
Post by: SaddVillan on November 12, 2021, 10:27:03 PM
Andorra had a player sent off in the 1st minute according to BBC scores. I need to know more about that.

Ball played up to the Andorran centre forward after about 20 seconds.

He elbowed the Polish centre half slap bang in the face before the ball had even arrived. Straight red.

Think he'd been taking inspiration after watching  a video of Peter Withe v Barca - Super Cup Final 2nd Leg!
Title: Re: Matts Cash - Polish international
Post by: Small Rodent on November 12, 2021, 10:47:12 PM
My Polish relations seem to think Kacper Kozlowski will be the next big thing in attacking midfield, a bit Smith-Rowe.

Has been linked with Dundee in the past.

We should swoop when he is over the EU embargo age. People are likening him to their next big player In Lewandowski hushed tones.
Title: Re: Matts Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 11, 2022, 11:47:34 AM
He insists on getting yellow cards every match
Nice assist for Coutinho vs Leeds but I do wonder if we should Cash in to Athletico Madrid
I think he's very decent and improved even jf lacks a bit of composure and discipline but if we get £40m I would sell
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on February 11, 2022, 12:39:16 PM
Supposed strong links with Atleti in January. The great summer sell-off; him, Mings, McGinn, Luiz. In the words of Kevin Rowland "For God sake, burn it down!" or indeed Edywn Collins a couple of years later, "Rip it up and start again".
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on February 11, 2022, 12:47:02 PM
Supposed strong links with Atleti in January. The great summer sell-off; him, Mings, McGinn, Luiz. In the words of Kevin Rowland "For God sake, burn it down!" or indeed Edywn Collins a couple of years later, "Rip it up and start again".

In the words of Kiri Te Kanawa, "Don't go breaking my heart"
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Tayls_7 on February 11, 2022, 01:01:43 PM
Supposed strong links with Atleti in January. The great summer sell-off; him, Mings, McGinn, Luiz. In the words of Kevin Rowland "For God sake, burn it down!" or indeed Edywn Collins a couple of years later, "Rip it up and start again".

In the words of Kiri Te Kanawa, "Don't go breaking my heart"

When did she say that?  :o
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: TelfordVilla on February 11, 2022, 01:06:38 PM
I thinkbthat was Kiki dee
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: TelfordVilla on February 11, 2022, 01:06:54 PM
I think that was Kiki dee
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on February 11, 2022, 01:12:43 PM
Supposed strong links with Atleti in January. The great summer sell-off; him, Mings, McGinn, Luiz. In the words of Kevin Rowland "For God sake, burn it down!" or indeed Edywn Collins a couple of years later, "Rip it up and start again".

In the words of Kiri Te Kanawa, "Don't go breaking my heart"

When did she say that?  :o

When she heard it on the radio
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on February 11, 2022, 01:35:53 PM
“Don’t go breaking my heart.”
“There’s something I’ve been meaning to tell you.”
Title: Re: Matts Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on February 11, 2022, 02:58:53 PM
He insists on getting yellow cards every match
Nice assist for Coutinho vs Leeds but I do wonder if we should Cash in to Athletico Madrid
I think he's very decent and improved even jf lacks a bit of composure and discipline but if we get £40m I would sell

He has 6 yellow cards in 22 league appearances this season and had 6 in 28 last. So less than 1 in 4 overall.

I'd rather keep him, he's improving and doing a good job. However, I think the noise suggests he may go, if that's the case, then £40m seems like a good price.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 11, 2022, 03:11:27 PM
It's his diving in that most terrifies me. Snappy in the tackle but liable for free kicks and needless pens
 However under Gerrard or Simone He's only going to get better..
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on February 11, 2022, 03:21:34 PM
It's his diving in that most terrifies me. Snappy in the tackle but liable for free kicks and needless pens
 However under Gerrard or Simone He's only going to get better..

He's given away 1 penalty this season. Same as another 50 players, including Konsa, Mings, Targett and Hause. He's conceded 24 fouls, and is ranked equal 23rd in the Premier League list for that, second for Villa behind McGinn who has conceded 31.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: algy on February 12, 2022, 09:17:24 AM
Supposedly looking at Noussair Mazraoui (Ajax right back) who's out of contract in the summer.

I like Matty Cash, he's not a player I'd put down in the 'to sell' list - I think he suits the way we play now, and I love an attacking fullback. But if it's along the lines of "swap him for this right back who Barcelona (apparently) want and £40m" then I might be persuaded of the merits ...
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 26, 2022, 07:08:15 PM
Well done Cash. Good shooting at goal and honourable shout out to his team mate perhaps something has been encouraged by his international management and players to get the message out for all polish international to have that as it's the case that Poland are to boycott World Cup play-off against Russia and that there is a Polish national player in Ukraine at this moment
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on February 27, 2022, 09:21:57 AM
A great goal by Cash! Shame he got booked by a jobsworth. I'd have been more impressed if the ref had gone over to Cash and just pointed at the message Cash was displaying in support. Still reading the room and common sense are not strengths of the modern day referee.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on February 27, 2022, 09:25:55 AM
A great goal by Cash! Shame he got booked by a jobsworth. I'd have been more impressed if the ref had gone over to Cash and just pointed at the message Cash was displaying in support. Still reading the room and common sense are not strengths of the modern day referee.

I don't think he had any choice. It might have been a nice thought for players to be allowed to show their support this weekend without fear of getting booked.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Chris Smith on February 27, 2022, 09:31:15 AM
A great goal by Cash! Shame he got booked by a jobsworth. I'd have been more impressed if the ref had gone over to Cash and just pointed at the message Cash was displaying in support. Still reading the room and common sense are not strengths of the modern day referee.

I don't think he had any choice. It might have been a nice thought for players to be allowed to show their support this weekend without fear of getting booked.

I was impressed by Gerrard taking ownership of that, saying it was down to him and that he had no criticism of Cash.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: VILLA MOLE on February 27, 2022, 09:53:04 AM
Referees miss things in games ,  this would have been a good opportunity for him to have missed this one maybe
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on February 27, 2022, 10:08:56 AM
A great goal by Cash! Shame he got booked by a jobsworth. I'd have been more impressed if the ref had gone over to Cash and just pointed at the message Cash was displaying in support. Still reading the room and common sense are not strengths of the modern day referee.

I don't think he had any choice. It might have been a nice thought for players to be allowed to show their support this weekend without fear of getting booked.

It would be nice if the FA rescinded his card given they relaxed the restriction on political messages this weekend.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: itbrvilla on February 27, 2022, 10:22:45 AM
What was the message?  Something to do with Ukraine invasion?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Chris Smith on February 27, 2022, 10:25:14 AM
What was the message?  Something to do with Ukraine invasion?

A message to a Polish teammate who is currently in Ukraine.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: algy on February 27, 2022, 08:06:41 PM
What was the message?  Something to do with Ukraine invasion?

A message to a Polish teammate who is currently in Ukraine.
There's a photo at the top of the Guardian match report: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/feb/26/brighton-aston-villa-premier-league-match-report

Tomasz Kedziora
+ Family
Stay strong my bro
♥️
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Lizz on February 27, 2022, 09:19:55 PM
Missed this last night.

https://twitter.com/theJeremyVine/status/1497890486085951488

Matty Cash features in it.



Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Villa Lew on March 04, 2022, 10:59:56 AM
Daily Mail are saying Matty may be a target for Atletico Madrid.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: lovejoy on March 04, 2022, 11:26:57 AM
Has his yellow been rescinded?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on March 04, 2022, 11:30:24 AM
Daily Mail are saying Matty may be a target for Atletico Madrid.

He'd do a Trippier at best...be happy to go somewhere "exotic", a nice signing-on fee and posh house in Las Rozas, learn a few (17) words of Spanish, and then give-up after a year, joining Palace the following summer.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brend'Watkins on March 04, 2022, 11:40:42 AM
A great goal by Cash! Shame he got booked by a jobsworth. I'd have been more impressed if the ref had gone over to Cash and just pointed at the message Cash was displaying in support. Still reading the room and common sense are not strengths of the modern day referee.

I don't think he had any choice. It might have been a nice thought for players to be allowed to show their support this weekend without fear of getting booked.

I was impressed by Gerrard taking ownership of that, saying it was down to him and that he had no criticism of Cash.

He might have been less dismissive of it had Cash picked up a 2nd yellow and we finished with a different result.  The same applies to supportive comments on here. As I've said previously, I agree totally with his heartfelt message of support.  Had he kept an arm in a sleeve his message would have been the exact same and no booking.  Shirt over his head, same message and no booking. Shirt removed, the ref has no option.  So don't give him an option.  And I know in the whole scheme of things a booking, a goal or even the match itself is of no importance in comparison to what's going on. However, if we are to play a competitive game then we play it competitively and that means keeping our discipline too to avoid needless bookings.   
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 04, 2022, 11:56:14 AM
Has his yellow been rescinded?

Yellows never are.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on March 04, 2022, 12:02:46 PM
Has his yellow been rescinded?

Yellows never are.

Which is a bit mad when you think about it, given they accumulate into bans.

A wrong is a wrong, regardless to the punishment given out at the time. It's obviously just because the FA can't be arsed with the extra work.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Bad English on March 04, 2022, 12:32:15 PM
I still want to know what that black bra thing is that he and others are sporting these days.

First it was wristbands, then gloves, after that snoods, now they are wearing dumpling holders.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 04, 2022, 12:36:30 PM
I still want to know what that black bra thing is that he and others are sporting these days.

First it was wristbands, then gloves, after that snoods, now they are wearing dumpling holders.

I think they hold the things that monitor heart rate and other fitness data.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Scott Nielsen on March 04, 2022, 12:50:40 PM
I still want to know what that black bra thing is that he and others are sporting these days.

First it was wristbands, then gloves, after that snoods, now they are wearing dumpling holders.

I think they hold the things that monitor heart rate and other fitness data.

Yeah, it's a GPS vest.

The vest is designed to hold a pod between the shoulder blades that contains a GPS, an accelerometer and a magnetometer. Combined they capture over 1250 data points per second to measure how much and how hard the players are working with insight into data such as total distance, top speed, number of sprints, sprint distance, power, load, intensity, heatmap and more.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: nordenvillain on March 04, 2022, 12:52:25 PM
What was the message?  Something to do with Ukraine invasion?

A message to a Polish teammate who is currently in Ukraine.
There's a photo at the top of the Guardian match report: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/feb/26/brighton-aston-villa-premier-league-match-report

Tomasz Kedziora
+ Family
Stay strong my bro
♥️
I must have missed us signing this Damian Martinez that The Guardian had playing in goal for us last Saturday.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 04, 2022, 03:08:28 PM
What was the message?  Something to do with Ukraine invasion?

A message to a Polish teammate who is currently in Ukraine.
There's a photo at the top of the Guardian match report: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/feb/26/brighton-aston-villa-premier-league-match-report

Tomasz Kedziora
+ Family
Stay strong my bro
♥️
I must have missed us signing this Damian Martinez that The Guardian had playing in goal for us last Saturday.

That's actually his first name. When you see the Argentina team sheet it's almost always D.Martinez
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: RamboandBruno on March 04, 2022, 10:10:46 PM
A great goal by Cash! Shame he got booked by a jobsworth. I'd have been more impressed if the ref had gone over to Cash and just pointed at the message Cash was displaying in support. Still reading the room and common sense are not strengths of the modern day referee.

I don't think he had any choice. It might have been a nice thought for players to be allowed to show their support this weekend without fear of getting booked.

I was impressed by Gerrard taking ownership of that, saying it was down to him and that he had no criticism of Cash.

He might have been less dismissive of it had Cash picked up a 2nd yellow and we finished with a different result.  The same applies to supportive comments on here. As I've said previously, I agree totally with his heartfelt message of support.  Had he kept an arm in a sleeve his message would have been the exact same and no booking.  Shirt over his head, same message and no booking. Shirt removed, the ref has no option.  So don't give him an option.  And I know in the whole scheme of things a booking, a goal or even the match itself is of no importance in comparison to what's going on. However, if we are to play a competitive game then we play it competitively and that means keeping our discipline too to avoid needless bookings.   
Brendan, we need to sit down and have a massive drink and work this out 😂
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 06, 2022, 04:05:17 PM
I though Cash was excellent yesterday. As energetic and full of running and getting forward as usual, but the quality of his final ball was much, much better.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 06, 2022, 07:07:21 PM
A great goal by Cash! Shame he got booked by a jobsworth. I'd have been more impressed if the ref had gone over to Cash and just pointed at the message Cash was displaying in support. Still reading the room and common sense are not strengths of the modern day referee.

I don't think he had any choice. It might have been a nice thought for players to be allowed to show their support this weekend without fear of getting booked.

I was impressed by Gerrard taking ownership of that, saying it was down to him and that he had no criticism of Cash.

He might have been less dismissive of it had Cash picked up a 2nd yellow and we finished with a different result.  The same applies to supportive comments on here. As I've said previously, I agree totally with his heartfelt message of support.  Had he kept an arm in a sleeve his message would have been the exact same and no booking.  Shirt over his head, same message and no booking. Shirt removed, the ref has no option.  So don't give him an option.  And I know in the whole scheme of things a booking, a goal or even the match itself is of no importance in comparison to what's going on. However, if we are to play a competitive game then we play it competitively and that means keeping our discipline too to avoid needless bookings.   

Wasn't that the reason SG apologised. He'd received updated guidelines from the FA and failed to pass them on to the team. Either that or he didn't expect us to score.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: robleflaneur on March 06, 2022, 07:10:11 PM
His best game for us.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Steve67 on March 06, 2022, 08:17:31 PM
He was fantastic yesterday.  Lovely cut back to Danny Ings for his goal.  Agree about the final ball generally.  In the running for overall man of the match when there were very few who in any way disappointed.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ian. on March 10, 2022, 10:19:14 PM
What a performance tonight. That was one of the best full back performances I’ve seen in a long time. Clearances, tackles, driving runs, assist and a goal. He’s some player, no wonder Madrid want him.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Aldridge Villa on March 10, 2022, 10:24:49 PM
Madrid may want him but I’ll be surprised if he goes.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: nigel on March 10, 2022, 10:27:43 PM
He’s certainly stepped up a level the past few games.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 10, 2022, 10:28:46 PM
Madrid may want him but I’ll be surprised if he goes.

So would I, he'd miss Ollie's Sunday roast lunches.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 10, 2022, 11:00:29 PM
Absolutely reborn. We have now two superb full backs that join the attack and are a genuine threat, while being defensively sound. You can see why Atletico want him.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 10, 2022, 11:17:12 PM
Absolutely reborn. We have now two superb full backs that join the attack and are a genuine threat, while being defensively sound. You can see why Atletico want him.

They can get stuffed, he's going nowhere.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dave on March 10, 2022, 11:19:04 PM
Arguably the form player in the whole league at the moment.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: astonvilla82 on March 10, 2022, 11:44:47 PM
And Poland must be very very happy
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 10, 2022, 11:48:19 PM
He's so good, Poland's next opponents aren't even bothering to turn up.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on March 11, 2022, 07:14:17 AM
Cash is playing really well at the moment and contributing significantly at both ends of the pitch. Targett was our most improved player last season. I'm beginning to wonder if Cash is this season.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: darren woolley on March 11, 2022, 07:16:16 AM
He was brilliant again and another goal from the Polish Cafu.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on March 11, 2022, 07:16:57 AM
Post match interview he was fiifmijf about how good Coutinho is. There's no way he's leaving us this summer, the way he's playing.

He really throws his all in to everything he does, I like him a lot.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: algy on March 11, 2022, 07:41:35 AM
Post match interview he was fiifmijf about how good Coutinho is. There's no way he's leaving us this summer, the way he's playing.

He really throws his all in to everything he does, I like him a lot.
I'm not sure what fiifmijf is, but it sounds dirty as fuck. Which is exactly how someone should describe that performance from both Phil & Cashski.

Atletico Madrid can want him, he's not going anywhere.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on March 11, 2022, 09:06:29 AM
Jesus. I really need to spell check. Giggling. Giggling.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 11, 2022, 09:09:16 AM
Jesus. I really need to spell check. Giggling. Giggling.

Fiifmijf is a brilliant word though, it needs to become part of the everyday H&V lexicon.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on March 11, 2022, 09:25:35 AM
Jesus. I really need to spell check. Giggling. Giggling.

Fiifmijf is a brilliant word though, it needs to become part of the everyday H&V lexicon.

If you actually say it, then it is one of those things you say when lost for words.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 11, 2022, 11:03:36 AM
Our "shit Jack Grealish" has now got more goals and assists than the actual Jack Grealish.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: garyellis on March 11, 2022, 11:08:16 AM
He has been superb last 2 games.
Both defensively and attacking wise.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Duncan Shaw on March 25, 2022, 04:46:23 PM
Just having a look and read about potential line-ups for England this weekend.  I suspect Matty would have been making his England debut this weekend had he not made the choice to go with Poland.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 25, 2022, 09:10:56 PM
And then, if he played out of his skin every game, he might have won a second cap in about 2027. I think he's made the right choice.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 26, 2022, 11:27:33 AM
Yes and Big nose would’ve been saying he needs to be playing for Citeh or Chelsea to stand any real chance and that he will struggle to oust Paul Parker.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Cliftonville Villlain on March 26, 2022, 03:37:10 PM
Wouldn't want any of our players anywhere near that set-up whilst that twat's in charge. A Polish legend in the making. Keep it up Matt.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: algy on March 27, 2022, 01:01:12 PM
And then, if he played out of his skin every game, he might have won a second cap in about 2027. I think he's made the right choice.
Yep, agree entirely. He wasn't involved in the England U21 setup, and hasn't played in the Champions League. Those are the 2 main criteria for Southgate it seems, and I'm struggling to think of a period of time when that's not been broadly true in the past.

It's a no-brainer for me - legend with Poland or maybe - if he's lucky - a squad player for England. But more likely one of the obscure players who has a couple of caps to their name, and folk use as an example of how shit England were at the time.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: darren woolley on March 27, 2022, 02:47:56 PM
I hope Matty Cash and Poland beat Sweden to reach the World Cup that would be brilliant for him.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: nigel on March 27, 2022, 08:13:59 PM
I hope Matty Cash and Poland beat Sweden to reach the World Cup that would be brilliant for him.

Agree
The more Villa players on show the better
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Small Rodent on March 31, 2022, 10:13:32 AM
I watched on Polish TV and he joined in the national anthem with gusto. Also in the post-game dressing room celebrations he appeared to fit in very well and knew all the Polish singalong football songs. Looks a happy player.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: astonvilla82 on March 31, 2022, 11:07:48 AM
Wouldn't want any of our players anywhere near that set-up whilst that twat's in charge. A Polish legend in the making. Keep it up Matt.
agreed
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on March 31, 2022, 11:19:56 AM
Saw the highlights, he got a  cross or two in for Lewandowski. Cash must pinch himself, he's started serving Gods like Coutinho and Lew in recent times.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Richard E on April 04, 2022, 06:31:57 PM
He’s signed a contract extension.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on April 04, 2022, 06:37:06 PM
Aston Villa is delighted to announce Matty Cash has signed a contract extension with the club.

The right-back joined Villa in September 2020 and has enjoyed 60 appearances to date, scoring three goals and registering six assists.

Cash’s first strike came against Everton at Villa Park earlier this season, before netting further Premier League goals against Brighton & Hove Albion and Leeds United.

The 24-year-old, who was voted as the club’s Player of the Month for March, made his international debut for Poland in November and last week helped secure qualification for the 2022 World Cup in Qatar.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dave P on April 04, 2022, 06:37:29 PM
Great news.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LukeJames on April 04, 2022, 06:39:13 PM
Awesome news, that Atletico link must have gave him something to seriously consider so this is a massive plus.

5 year extension if anybodys wondering, it doesn't seem to say in the press release.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Aldridge Villa on April 04, 2022, 06:44:09 PM
Excellent news. Needed cheering up post Dingle debacle and this fits the bill.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on April 04, 2022, 06:48:30 PM
Very good news.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on April 04, 2022, 07:10:56 PM
Fantastic news, I didn't expect this post from the summer 2022 transfers thread to be right quite so soon ...

Of course you can never say never but I don't think Cash will want to move this summer but a link like this is a perfect way for his agent to push up his demands for a new contract.

For me it never felt like one that would happen and was just about getting him a contract that reflects a top half premier league fullback rather than someone who had just made the step up from the championship.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Taylor on April 04, 2022, 07:11:11 PM
Yes. This has cheered me right up. Seems to love it here, and a brilliant player.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 04, 2022, 07:13:44 PM
Good news and all that, but I can't help feeling that the article misses off a fairly key piece of information.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 04, 2022, 07:14:31 PM
Ah, LukeJames has provided the information I was after. Many thanks.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: N'ZMAV on April 04, 2022, 07:16:49 PM
bosha
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ChicagoLion on April 04, 2022, 07:19:12 PM
Great, really coming on as a player.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: bilsim on April 04, 2022, 07:24:18 PM
Great news, probably my player of the season this far
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: N'ZMAV on April 04, 2022, 07:24:46 PM
Great news, probably my player of the season this far
Not much competition for that award, but you're right - he's had a good season.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PaulWinch again on April 04, 2022, 07:26:39 PM
Good news.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on April 04, 2022, 08:16:01 PM
Excellent news.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Beard82 on April 04, 2022, 08:35:09 PM
Great News - and great coup,  I would imagine Champions League football in Madrid would be quite a pull

Well done all
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on April 04, 2022, 08:52:06 PM
Great news, has been playing well this year and seems a very likeable bloke.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: RamboandBruno on April 04, 2022, 08:54:39 PM
Just told my 12 year old as thats always my yardstick, bearing in mind Konsa has been his favourite player even when Grealish was here pulling up trees. He says its brilliant news and i agree, a player that is only going to get better for us. As much as i love him bombing forwards, theres nothing quite like a Cash whole hearted crunching tackle.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 04, 2022, 09:35:31 PM
Good news. I think Cash has had a good season and can still improve.

Who knows how genuine the Atletico Madrid interest was but that's another good tying down of key player in our line up.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on April 04, 2022, 09:49:58 PM
Will set him up for life, that. A bit generous, he still needs to learn to cross a ball consistently well and his positional sense at times is ballways. I guess under Gerrards system he'll have his work cut-out getting up and down the flank. If he manages that, he'll have earned his cash.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Scott Nielsen on April 05, 2022, 04:08:26 AM
Good news. He's not perfect but he's learning. More importantly, one of very few players that comes across as a fighter.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: sid1964 on April 05, 2022, 06:45:03 AM
I like Cash but I am surprised it is a 5 year deal - thought it would be a maximum of 3 years

I would imagine that Kesler will be off on loan again next season

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: darren woolley on April 05, 2022, 08:11:30 AM
I'm so pleased he's signed a new contract with us it's well deserved.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Axl Rose on April 05, 2022, 08:23:35 AM
I'm so pleased he's signed a new contract with us it's well deserved.

This.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ROBBO on April 05, 2022, 11:06:36 AM
Little bit puzzled in that I like him as a player but one assett he hasn't got is crossing the ball. Wouldn't you think that if we need him to play as a wing back extra hours should be spent on a skill that is lacking. If he does practice crossing it doesn't show.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on April 05, 2022, 12:43:39 PM
Little bit puzzled in that I like him as a player but one assett he hasn't got is crossing the ball. Wouldn't you think that if we need him to play as a wing back extra hours should be spent on a skill that is lacking. If he does practice crossing it doesn't show.

Didn't he start out as a winger as well?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: exigo on April 05, 2022, 01:20:36 PM
Little bit puzzled in that I like him as a player but one assett he hasn't got is crossing the ball. Wouldn't you think that if we need him to play as a wing back extra hours should be spent on a skill that is lacking. If he does practice crossing it doesn't show.

Thing is, we're not really set up for crosses. Which is why we score goals like he set up for Coutinho at Leeds, and Ings at home to Southampton. Don't care what his crossing is like when his cutbacks are yielding goals.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ROBBO on April 06, 2022, 01:45:46 AM
I take your point but he has to supply both or defenses will automatically structure for the cut back, he has to be able to do both.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: robleflaneur on April 06, 2022, 02:21:23 PM
I take your point but he has to supply both or defenses will automatically structure for the cut back, he has to be able to do both.
Fantastic news.
With cutbacks,the attacker has usually got round the back of the defence and it's more difficult trying to track the cross and their opponents.It's easier to follow the ball and attackers when they are facing the crosser.
With Coutinho,Buendia and two excellent full backs,I'm surprised we don't use the tactic more often.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on April 06, 2022, 06:12:07 PM
Nice touch from Fred Guilbert on Cash's Insta, considering he's effectively his understudy: "Well done Cashy, love it".
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Mellin on April 07, 2022, 09:37:31 PM
I love him. The missus loves him more. Great news.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: chrisw1 on April 12, 2022, 11:53:19 AM
Are we going to talk about this?  Ruptured MCL and out for the season.


(https://i.ibb.co/891Rb5d/cash.jpg) (https://ibb.co/891Rb5d)





(https://i.ibb.co/568mgcp/mee.jpg) (https://ibb.co/568mgcp)
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: rougegorge on April 12, 2022, 12:04:09 PM
That was a reckless challenge despite getting the ball.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: thick_mike on April 12, 2022, 12:08:51 PM
Yes, I thought it was very similar to Mee’s challenge on Wes.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Scott Nielsen on April 12, 2022, 12:10:29 PM
Terrible challenge. If that had been done to a Villa-player we'd be outraged.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: RamboandBruno on April 12, 2022, 02:14:21 PM
Mee didnt get anywhere near the ball from memory. It was a tough challenge from Cash, he seem to me to win the ball cleanly with his right foot, with the rest of him catching Doherty. Its tough on Doherty and i hope it doesn’t impact on him long term, but i’m really not sure its a disgraceful challenge from Cash, it was tough tackle.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on April 12, 2022, 02:17:35 PM
it was poor but nowhere near the level of the mee one.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: chrisw1 on April 12, 2022, 03:02:32 PM
it was poor but nowhere near the level of the mee one.
Look at the two stills above Paul, they're virtually identical.  And there was plenty of force too, the only real difference is that Doherty's leg didn't get caught up in the same way Wesleys did.  His only mitigation is that from a wider angle you can see Cash just changes angle slightly to get the ball with his right foot, so arguable it was less pre-meditated than Mee's looked.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Mister E on April 12, 2022, 03:08:05 PM
it was poor but nowhere near the level of the mee one.
Look at the two stills above Paul, they're virtually identical.  And there was plenty of force too, the only real difference is that Doherty's leg didn't get caught up in the same way Wesleys did.  His only mitigation is that from a wider angle you can see Cash just changes angle slightly to get the ball with his right foot, so arguable it was less pre-meditated than Mee's looked.
Both were horrible, seen in hindsight.
With Mee, the ball is at chest height when the challenge comes in, and Wesley's right leg is straight and caught between both of Mee's legs. Cash's challenge is for the ball and doesn't appear to be a scissor-challenge (I may be wrong on that; doesn't look it in the picture nor did it look so live).
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: chrisw1 on April 12, 2022, 03:32:43 PM
it was poor but nowhere near the level of the mee one.
Look at the two stills above Paul, they're virtually identical.  And there was plenty of force too, the only real difference is that Doherty's leg didn't get caught up in the same way Wesleys did.  His only mitigation is that from a wider angle you can see Cash just changes angle slightly to get the ball with his right foot, so arguable it was less pre-meditated than Mee's looked.
Both were horrible, seen in hindsight.
With Mee, the ball is at chest height when the challenge comes in, and Wesley's right leg is straight and caught between both of Mee's legs. Cash's challenge is for the ball and doesn't appear to be a scissor-challenge (I may be wrong on that; doesn't look it in the picture nor did it look so live).
With Mee the ball was on the floor and he won it.  He then sythed through Wesley just like Cash wins the ball and sythes through Doherty.  I don't see the difference.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: nick harper on April 12, 2022, 05:30:21 PM
The excessive force against a planted leg is very similar. Neither were given as a foul and both players would argue they were only looking at the ball, but it’s the height they arrive at as the knee takes the full impact.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Mister E on April 12, 2022, 06:01:20 PM
it was poor but nowhere near the level of the mee one.
Look at the two stills above Paul, they're virtually identical.  And there was plenty of force too, the only real difference is that Doherty's leg didn't get caught up in the same way Wesleys did.  His only mitigation is that from a wider angle you can see Cash just changes angle slightly to get the ball with his right foot, so arguable it was less pre-meditated than Mee's looked.
Both were horrible, seen in hindsight.
With Mee, the ball is at chest height when the challenge comes in, and Wesley's right leg is straight and caught between both of Mee's legs. Cash's challenge is for the ball and doesn't appear to be a scissor-challenge (I may be wrong on that; doesn't look it in the picture nor did it look so live).
With Mee the ball was on the floor and he won it.  He then sythed through Wesley just like Cash wins the ball and sythes through Doherty.  I don't see the difference.
You may be right about the Mee scenario, Chris; I was there but it was a long time ago.
I wasn't trying to justify either tackle.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Russ aka Big Nose on April 12, 2022, 06:49:42 PM
It was a very poor tackle and merited a yellow card.

It wasn't as bad as the Mee tackle, but that is no mitigation. Neither is the claim I have seen from a few Villa fans on Twitter saying, "Cash got the ball!"

That has been irrelevant for some time as if a challenge has excessive force or endangers an opponent, then the culprit is guilty of serious foul play.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Exeter 77 on April 12, 2022, 07:03:25 PM
I didn’t think it was as bad as Alan Hutton on Shane Long a few years ago.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on April 12, 2022, 07:10:32 PM
it was poor but nowhere near the level of the mee one.
Look at the two stills above Paul, they're virtually identical.  And there was plenty of force too, the only real difference is that Doherty's leg didn't get caught up in the same way Wesleys did.  His only mitigation is that from a wider angle you can see Cash just changes angle slightly to get the ball with his right foot, so arguable it was less pre-meditated than Mee's looked.

Looking at stills adds nothing, for example look at the Mings on Saka one where 2 different still images completely change how it looks.

Instead watch  both tackles on video at full speed and they're very different.

For me Cash caught him with his trailing leg whereas Mee scissored his leg, neither are great but the latter is far more reckless.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Goldenballs on April 12, 2022, 07:36:44 PM
To me it was clear that Mee intended to do that to Wes, he could've got to the ball quicker but slowed so he could clatter through Wes.

Doesn't look like Cash set out to deliberately hurt him, but it's a bad challenge very similar to what Mee did.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: aj2k77 on April 12, 2022, 08:22:09 PM
I must be blind, it wasn't a scissor tackle and he won the ball fairly in my eyes.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: brontebilly on April 12, 2022, 08:26:46 PM
Cash has that kind of scissor kick tackle style. It's not very brave or clever (a sharp forward can mug him easily as they know Cash likes going to ground). But the masses lap it up.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ads on April 12, 2022, 09:18:54 PM
A player winning the ball is now lapped it up? Football snobbery or what.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: chrisw1 on April 12, 2022, 11:12:29 PM
Cash clearly scissors him in exactly the same way Mee did.  The tackles are virtually identical.  What replays are you watching?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on April 13, 2022, 05:28:28 PM


For me Cash caught him with his trailing leg whereas Mee scissored his leg, neither are great but the latter is far more reckless.

That's how I saw it as well. It looked like a hard but fair tackle watching it at the game. As you say, he goes in hard with his main leg, then catches him with trailing leg. With Mee on Wesley, he goes in with all his weight on Wesley's knee with both legs at the same time. I don't quite agree that the stills add nothing, I think they make Mee's look much worse, which it was.

https://wittyfutty.com/2020/01/video-ben-mee-horror-tackle-that-injured-wesley-for-the-rest-of-the-season/
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: chrisw1 on April 13, 2022, 05:35:49 PM
This really is tinted specs stuff.  Mee's left leg is bent, as is Cash's.  The only real difference is Mee came more from behind & side and Cash more from the front & side.

You really think there's a discernable difference between these two stills?  Both players are high, have legs either side of the attacker, their left leg bent and their bollocks at or above knee height.  If you do, I doubt many non-Villa fans will agree.


(https://i.ibb.co/BwJhZLC/cash.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BwJhZLC)

(https://i.ibb.co/Jm7scVX/mee.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Jm7scVX)


Either way, we arguing about which shit stinks most here.  They are both terrible challenges which caused season ending injuries.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on April 13, 2022, 06:11:50 PM
There's a huge difference. If you look at the videos of the two incidents. Matt Cash is almost at a standstill, and sort of tries to swipe the ball away from Doherty. Ben Mee is running in at full pelt. Even then, Doherty plays on for another 15 minutes before going off.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ads on April 13, 2022, 06:15:27 PM
Cash made a firm and legal challenge. He didn't go into hurt the player and it was unfortunate that Doherty got injured. It happens sometimes. Son's nothing challenge on Gomez for example, it's a contact sport with risk.

I wouldn't want Cash to avoid hitting a Leicester player next week comprehensively because he made a firm and legitimate tackle that had an unfortunate consequence that put a player out for a month.

Mee's challenge was designed to injure, as he had done before.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: rougegorge on April 14, 2022, 02:53:26 PM
There's a huge difference. If you look at the videos of the two incidents. Matt Cash is almost at a standstill, and sort of tries to swipe the ball away from Doherty. Ben Mee is running in at full pelt. Even then, Doherty plays on for another 15 minutes before going off.
If that is someone almost at a standstill, I wouldn't like to be on the end of Cash's full pelt. Just because Doherty played on for a while doesn't mean anything.

Both were bad tackles.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on April 14, 2022, 03:49:05 PM
There's a huge difference. If you look at the videos of the two incidents. Matt Cash is almost at a standstill, and sort of tries to swipe the ball away from Doherty. Ben Mee is running in at full pelt. Even then, Doherty plays on for another 15 minutes before going off.
If that is someone almost at a standstill, I wouldn't like to be on the end of Cash's full pelt. Just because Doherty played on for a while doesn't mean anything.

Both were bad tackles.

I don't think anyone is disputing that the Cash one wasn't a bit rough (I certainly expected him to get booked for it) but comparing it to the Mee one is silly and I can only assume it's because are forgetting just how poor that tackle was (and how fucked up the laws are that saw him not even concede a free kick).


That said if you or chris can show me an image of Dohertys knee and ankle bent like this, or with Dohertys foot trapped underneath Cash's arse, than I'll change my mind:


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EksgQa5XIAAoQXa.jpg)


If not then maybe you need to appreciate that the 2 challenges are on very different places on the scale.


As way of acknowledgement I think that image is one of the worst I've ever seen in sport and should've resulted in an immediate review of the laws.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: chrisw1 on April 14, 2022, 04:40:54 PM
I don't think the fact that Wesleys leg was planted at the moment of impact and Doherty rode it better (but still incurred a major injury) has any relevance to the nature of the challenge.  The point I make is both challenges were largely the same - same height, high speed & force, legs scissoring the oponent - and the level of injury inflicted it is more down to luck than judgment. 

I've not particular desire to hang Cash out to dry, but in my opinion it is highly hypocrytical to have slagged of Mee for two years and then brush off a spookily similar challenge by our own player. 
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on April 14, 2022, 05:21:00 PM
I don't think the two tackles are remotely similar. That's not rose-tinted spectacles, I just don't think they are.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on April 14, 2022, 05:30:06 PM
https://streamable.com/fgv3ig
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on April 14, 2022, 06:50:26 PM
I don't think the two tackles are remotely similar. That's not rose-tinted spectacles, I just don't think they are.

Agreed, and if you watch the videos of both back-to-back I don't see how you could see it any other way. I think Cash could easily have been booked for his (given the Mings booking against Arsenal nothing would surprise me any more).
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on April 14, 2022, 06:53:55 PM
I don't think the two tackles are remotely similar. That's not rose-tinted spectacles, I just don't think they are.

Agreed, and if you watch the videos of both back-to-back I don't see how you could see it any other way. I think Cash could easily have been booked for his (given the Mings booking against Arsenal nothing would surprise me any more).

If you look at the video link above (and that's how I saw it in real time from The Trinity) you can see he runs towards Doherty, checks his pace, then sort of tries to hook his right leg round round to clear the ball away. It didn't look that bad at that time, and neither Doherty or his team mates really reacted. The fact that Doherty is now out for the season doesn't make it anywhere near as bad as Mee's. He also might have made it worse by playing on for 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: RamboandBruno on April 14, 2022, 07:00:18 PM
The more i look back at it, the less i see it as a terrible tackle, a bit like my starting position on Saturday as one of the masses lapping it up!! As i said earlier in the thread i feel for Doherty though.
Stills tell only a partial story at a fixed moment in time, but if we’re using stills to compare, Mee is nowhere near the ball, whereas the ball isnt in the Cash still as he won it cleanly and knocked it out for a throw.

Its a really difficult one in general though as i love a really strong tackle, as we saw on Saturday with both Mings and Cash it can help drive a team on, but sometimes without intention players get hurt. If we want to avoid that altogether then fine, the games heading that way anyway.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on April 14, 2022, 07:19:13 PM
I don't think the two tackles are remotely similar. That's not rose-tinted spectacles, I just don't think they are.

Agreed, and if you watch the videos of both back-to-back I don't see how you could see it any other way. I think Cash could easily have been booked for his (given the Mings booking against Arsenal nothing would surprise me any more).

If you look at the video link above (and that's how I saw it in real time from The Trinity) you can see he runs towards Doherty, checks his pace, then sort of tries to hook his right leg round round to clear the ball away. It didn't look that bad at that time, and neither Doherty or his team mates really reacted. The fact that Doherty is now out for the season doesn't make it anywhere near as bad as Mee's. He also might have made it worse by playing on for 15 minutes.

I'm sure I said this earlier but, at risk of repeating, the big difference is the angle they're coming from, Cash stretches for a ball in front of Doherty but the follow-through sees him off his feet and he catches him with the back foot but I don't think there was any intent in it, he's just making sure he puts the ball out (but it is clumsy).

The Mee tackle was from an angle where he must've known, as soon as he went off his feet, that he would be clearing out Wesley, there was no other option once he went in as he did. In fact, given the battering Wesley had been giving him all game, I'm absolutely certain that he saw it as an opportunity to 'even things up'. I don't think he wanted to injure him to the extent he did but I do think he absolutely intended to flatten him.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ads on April 14, 2022, 08:25:38 PM
https://streamable.com/fgv3ig

Perfectly fine challenge, that if he didn't make, he'd be deservedly roasted alive for. He has to make it.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: colin69 on April 14, 2022, 08:58:43 PM
https://streamable.com/fgv3ig

Perfectly fine challenge, that if he didn't make, he'd be deservedly roasted alive for. He has to make it.

100%
I didn’t think it was a bad tackle on Saturday and I still don’t.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ads on April 14, 2022, 09:00:42 PM
Let's not judge a tackle by its outcome. The very worst injury I've ever seen in football with David Busst was an utterly innocuous collision. One of the worst injuries for a Villa player was a nothing clash with the Ipswich keeper.

Then you have dirty players like Mee or Brown who try and break legs and ruin careers. There's a huge difference and trying to lump them all in because Doherty was unfortunately injured is a deficient analysis.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Scott Nielsen on April 15, 2022, 07:19:23 AM
https://streamable.com/fgv3ig

Perfectly fine challenge, that if he didn't make, he'd be deservedly roasted alive for. He has to make it.

100%
I didn’t think it was a bad tackle on Saturday and I still don’t.

Agreed. Having seen the video I have revised my first opinion.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: nigel on April 15, 2022, 11:12:43 AM
https://streamable.com/fgv3ig

That’s a perfect look at it, and exactly how I saw it.
Cash is almost stationary when he makes the tackle.
Mee was steaming in at an uncontrollable level.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: OCD on April 15, 2022, 11:48:17 AM
If that's a foul, we might as well make it a non-contact sport. The ball's there to be won, he wins it cleanly and then there's contact. I loved it and his gesture afterwards tbh.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on April 15, 2022, 12:20:44 PM
When Cash wins the ball, his left leg is planted behind him. As he hooks his right leg round to kick the ball away, Doherty's forward motion takes him between Cash's legs. Neither Doherty or his team mates makes a big deal about it at all.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: chrisw1 on April 15, 2022, 04:14:17 PM
When Cash wins the ball, his left leg is planted behind him. As he hooks his right leg round to kick the ball away, Doherty's forward motion takes him between Cash's legs. Neither Doherty or his team mates makes a big deal about it at all.
I’m sorry but this is absolute bollocks.  If you watch the close up side view you can see Cash knocks him about 3 ft through the air into touch.  Watch where his arse starts and ends up.  I get you don’t want to crucify our own player but this is delusional
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ads on April 15, 2022, 04:49:52 PM
There's nothing wrong with the tackle. I didn't think there was live and don't think there is now on the replay. Absolutely fine. People are seeing things that aren't there.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on April 15, 2022, 06:02:29 PM
When Cash wins the ball, his left leg is planted behind him. As he hooks his right leg round to kick the ball away, Doherty's forward motion takes him between Cash's legs. Neither Doherty or his team mates makes a big deal about it at all.
I’m sorry but this is absolute bollocks.  If you watch the close up side view you can see Cash knocks him about 3 ft through the air into touch.  Watch where his arse starts and ends up.  I get you don’t want to crucify our own player but this is delusional

You're the one who's delusional. Everybody else seems to be able to see the tackle for what it was. Ever considered applying for a job at Stockley Park?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on April 15, 2022, 06:43:38 PM
There's nothing wrong with the tackle. I didn't think there was live and don't think there is now on the replay. Absolutely fine. People are seeing things that aren't there.

Exactly. Spurs player lost control of the ball, Cash puts it out of play. Spurs player falls over and makes a meal of it.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Mister E on April 15, 2022, 06:53:28 PM
https://streamable.com/fgv3ig
Perfectly fine challenge, that if he didn't make, he'd be deservedly roasted alive for. He has to make it.
Seeing this here confirms what I saw in the ground: a good defensive tackle.
New Years Day 2020 at Burnley I saw an assault on Wesley.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: nigel on April 15, 2022, 09:09:59 PM
There's nothing wrong with the tackle. I didn't think there was live and don't think there is now on the replay. Absolutely fine. People are seeing things that aren't there.

Exactly. Spurs player lost control of the ball, Cash puts it out of play. Spurs player falls over and makes a meal of it.

In fairness we know he didn’t make a meal of it, he was genuinely hurt.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: DrGonzo on April 15, 2022, 09:47:09 PM
Regardless of the unfortunate outcome, nobody wants to see players injured, Cash had every right to make the challenge.  If he hadn't he'd have been castigated.  It was timed to perfection, he arrived and cleared the ball out of play.  In any other era of the game this would not be a discussion.  Doherty's injury is sad but you can't remove the tackle from the game or it'll turn into netball.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on April 15, 2022, 10:28:18 PM
There's nothing wrong with the tackle. I didn't think there was live and don't think there is now on the replay. Absolutely fine. People are seeing things that aren't there.

Exactly. Spurs player lost control of the ball, Cash puts it out of play. Spurs player falls over and makes a meal of it.

In fairness we know he didn’t make a meal of it, he was genuinely hurt.

Was his first concern getting medical assistance or rolling around and looking up to see if the ref was going to book/send Cash off? He landed awkwardly on his arse and later realised he'd twisted his knee.

Now the Ashley Young challenge I'll give you, that was more 49/51.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: nigel on April 16, 2022, 09:41:51 AM
There's nothing wrong with the tackle. I didn't think there was live and don't think there is now on the replay. Absolutely fine. People are seeing things that aren't there.

Exactly. Spurs player lost control of the ball, Cash puts it out of play. Spurs player falls over and makes a meal of it.

In fairness we know he didn’t make a meal of it, he was genuinely hurt.

Was his first concern getting medical assistance or rolling around and looking up to see if the ref was going to book/send Cash off? He landed awkwardly on his arse and later realised he'd twisted his knee.

Now the Ashley Young challenge I'll give you, that was more 49/51.

I didn’t think there was anything wrong with the tackle at the time, and nothing I’ve seen has changed. For me it was perfectly timed.
At the time I thought Doherty was making the most of it, too, but certainly looked troubled when he was back up. I’m sat a the back of the North, so didn’t see any sneaky looks at the ref.

The thing that probably narked me more was we didn’t concentrate any attacks down that side when he, to me anyway, was clearly struggling.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on May 11, 2022, 03:58:09 PM
Improved so much but does need composure there was an excellent opportunity for him to delivery a cross when he wildly shot or crossed over far too hard and wayward.

On many plus sided Matty Cash was able to make some good movement into the box on the wide right with some excellent control and we have generally seen he does have the ability to pick out players which I think has improved to Gerrards coaching.
Key component in our system and hope he can improve in his diving in for penalties and cards but he very made for the attacking full back as was a flying attacking player before he converted to being a right back.
Well done to the season Matty Cash.
Couple games left but he's up there with best and or most improved player.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on May 11, 2022, 05:14:09 PM
That shot last night I didn't begrudge him, given the bollocks the forwards had made of every chance they'd been given.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on May 11, 2022, 05:41:41 PM
That shot last night I didn't begrudge him, given the bollocks the forwards had made of every chance they'd been given.
That's a point!
Though may have to wonder if he meant to cross or shoot!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: darren woolley on May 13, 2022, 08:22:21 AM
Congratulations Matty well deserved award last night.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: AGRIPPA on May 13, 2022, 09:14:20 AM
Congratulations Matty well deserved award last night.

Who won the others??
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: dave shelley on May 13, 2022, 09:39:19 AM
Congratulations Matty well deserved award last night.

Who won the others??

All winners listed on the official site.  avfc.co.uk
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 13, 2022, 10:15:21 AM
Congratulations Matty well deserved award last night.

Judging by the clip on Twitter he looked a bit emotional when it was announced, seemed to mean a lot to him.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 13, 2022, 12:06:55 PM
Congratulations Matty well deserved award last night.

Judging by the clip on Twitter he looked a bit emotional when it was announced, seemed to mean a lot to him.

Apparently it was some sort of phone filter orchestrated by some jokester called John McGinn
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ad@m on May 22, 2022, 06:12:29 PM
Two goals at his door today.

He's gone as far as he can with us. His delivery in the final 3rd and his defending just aren't good enough for how Gerrard wants us to play.

After DCM, right back is the next priority for me.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Small Rodent on May 22, 2022, 06:14:09 PM
Two goals at his door today.

He's gone as far as he can with us. His delivery in the final 3rd and his defending just aren't good enough for how Gerrard wants us to play.

After DCM, right back is the next priority for me.

Ha ha ha
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: rob_bridge on May 22, 2022, 06:27:23 PM
Really good and probbaly the only first teamer who improved this season.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: N'ZMAV on May 22, 2022, 06:28:44 PM
had a good season - he switched off a bit today after we went two nil up - but he wasn't the only one
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on May 22, 2022, 06:32:09 PM
Two goals at his door today.

He's gone as far as he can with us. His delivery in the final 3rd and his defending just aren't good enough for how Gerrard wants us to play.

After DCM, right back is the next priority for me.

I'd politely suggest that it might be for you but almost certainly won't be for Gerrard.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: WarszaVillan on May 22, 2022, 06:35:31 PM
The most improved aspect of this season was Matty's hair. An exposed bald patch early doors; struggled with a hair band for a few weeks; but came strong at the end of the season with some flowing locks. Put in some more hard work over the summer and he'll be challenging Barnet next season.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ChicagoLion on May 22, 2022, 06:37:10 PM
The amount of times he was bypassed today was embarrassing.
All over the place defensively
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ad@m on May 22, 2022, 06:40:41 PM
Really good and probbaly the only first teamer who improved this season.

Jacob Ramsey says hello.

What's he improved out of interest? Because it's not his crossing or defending.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: brontebilly on May 22, 2022, 06:46:00 PM
Could do with attaching some wing mirrors to his hair piece. Cancelo made the same mistake for Cash's goal.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 22, 2022, 07:07:51 PM
Matty Cash has had a brilliant season. The fact that only one poster sees it otherwise sums it up.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ad@m on May 22, 2022, 07:33:03 PM
Matty Cash has had a brilliant season. The fact that only one poster sees it otherwise sums it up.

I'm genuinely intrigued as to why you think so.

Sure, he runs around a lot and he puts the occasional crunching tackle in, but against Burnley on Thursday every time he got the ball in an advanced position he hit the first defender and today he was at fault for two of their goals.

Digne has shown us what top class full back looks like and if we're serious about Europe Matty Cash isn't going to get us there.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 22, 2022, 07:36:33 PM
He's good defensively, and excellent going forward. You seem to be in a minority of one in thinking that he needs replacing.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ian. on May 22, 2022, 07:37:45 PM
He’s ace and well deserved our player of the year. A very good full back in both ends of the pitch.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Rudy65 on May 22, 2022, 07:40:25 PM
He's good defensively, and excellent going forward. You seem to be in a minority of one in thinking that he needs replacing.
Still v erratic. Dives in too much and gets turned easily. Had improved though and a great goal today. His crossing isn’t up to John Gidman’s standard and Digne is far better. Keep unless Madrid offer silly money
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ad@m on May 22, 2022, 07:41:48 PM
To be clear, I'm not talking about getting rid of him. He's fine as a back up, but DCM and the full backs are the most important roles in Gerrard's system and Cash isn't good enough for our ambitions.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ads on May 22, 2022, 08:51:32 PM
Excellent full back. Looking forward to a full season with both him and Digne bombing on and being all action with the benefit of that elusive defensive midfielder ghats so vital when your full backs are kamikaze high.

He's come on massively again this season and comfortably one of our better players.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 22, 2022, 08:52:27 PM
To be clear, I'm not talking about getting rid of him. He's fine as a back up, but DCM and the full backs are the most important roles in Gerrard's system and Cash isn't good enough for our ambitions.

Cash is easily good enough for our ambitions. He's the best right back we have had at least since Barrett and maybe since we won the European Cup. He will be first choice next season and deservedly so.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 22, 2022, 09:13:49 PM
Agreed - he’s a proper modern full back and he’s getting better.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: adrenachrome on May 22, 2022, 09:19:10 PM
He was supporters' player of the season, wasn't he?
Mind you, Stewart Downing won it once.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 22, 2022, 09:22:48 PM
Stewart Downing was our best player in 2010/11 so deserved to win it. He's still a twat, obviously.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Nii Lamptey on May 22, 2022, 09:44:56 PM
To be clear, I'm not talking about getting rid of him. He's fine as a back up, but DCM and the full backs are the most important roles in Gerrard's system and Cash isn't good enough for our ambitions.

Cash is easily good enough for our ambitions. He's the best right back we have had at least since Barrett and maybe since we won the European Cup. He will be first choice next season and deservedly so.

Ahem... Phone's ringing. Mark Delaney wants a word!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PeterWithe on May 22, 2022, 09:49:06 PM
Earl Barrett was a better defender but wasn’t anywhere near Marty Cash going forward, in fact I can’t imagine anyone who’d seen them play thinking he was.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: villadelph on May 23, 2022, 12:09:57 AM
Most minutes played in the league by an outfield player this year.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: OCD on May 23, 2022, 12:13:17 AM
I can see him scoring more goals from Digne crosses next season.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: SoccerHQ on May 23, 2022, 12:31:28 AM
The amount of times he was bypassed today was embarrassing.
All over the place defensively

That's what Man. City do, they create overloads for fun if FBs are exposed.

First goal he should've done better getting caught under the cross, third was a goal Man. City score 40 times a season, robotic in how they score that goal time and again.

I think he's had a good season on the whole. Still rash at times but really if people want a world class FB then you're looking at 50m + given that's what some of the top sides spend on them and we're miles off that level currently.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: tomd2103 on May 23, 2022, 12:32:12 AM
Easy to forget that he has only been playing full-back for a few seasons.  I think he has improved again this season and looks an established top flight player now. 
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 23, 2022, 12:35:52 AM
To be clear, I'm not talking about getting rid of him. He's fine as a back up, but DCM and the full backs are the most important roles in Gerrard's system and Cash isn't good enough for our ambitions.

Cash is easily good enough for our ambitions. He's the best right back we have had at least since Barrett and maybe since we won the European Cup. He will be first choice next season and deservedly so.

Ahem... Phone's ringing. Mark Delaney wants a word!

Would take Cash ahead of Delaney, though that's partly because Delaney was unlucky with injuries. Fingers crossed Cash hasn't had too many problems so far.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: nigel on May 23, 2022, 10:15:47 AM
Both Cash and Digne are good defenders who are great at getting forward, but, there’s always a trade off with the way you want your fullbacks to play.

Matt Targett, for instance, is a better defender than both Cash and Digne, but not as effective going forward.

Although there probably is, I can’t think of a fullback who is wonderful at both.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on May 23, 2022, 10:25:33 AM
Two goals at his door today.

He's gone as far as he can with us. His delivery in the final 3rd and his defending just aren't good enough for how Gerrard wants us to play.

After DCM, right back is the next priority for me.

I'd politely suggest that it might be for you but almost certainly won't be for Gerrard.

Quite. He's POTY for a reason.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: RamboandBruno on May 23, 2022, 10:26:45 AM
Matty Cash, is generally excellent, one of the best full backs in the division, thats it.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on May 23, 2022, 10:30:54 AM
Both Cash and Digne are good defenders who are great at getting forward, but, there’s always a trade off with the way you want your fullbacks to play.

Matt Targett, for instance, is a better defender than both Cash and Digne, but not as effective going forward.

Although there probably is, I can’t think of a fullback who is wonderful at both.

Andy Robertson and Reese James?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on May 23, 2022, 10:36:49 AM
Both Cash and Digne are good defenders who are great at getting forward, but, there’s always a trade off with the way you want your fullbacks to play.

Matt Targett, for instance, is a better defender than both Cash and Digne, but not as effective going forward.

Although there probably is, I can’t think of a fullback who is wonderful at both.

Andy Robertson and Reese James?

Yes, and they're both candidates for the best in the world in their position.

Matty Cash is fucking ace, picking him out for criticism is a strange hill to die on
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on May 23, 2022, 11:11:00 AM
Both Cash and Digne are good defenders who are great at getting forward, but, there’s always a trade off with the way you want your fullbacks to play.

Matt Targett, for instance, is a better defender than both Cash and Digne, but not as effective going forward.

Although there probably is, I can’t think of a fullback who is wonderful at both.

Andy Robertson and Reese James?

Yes, and they're both candidates for the best in the world in their position.

Matty Cash is fucking ace, picking him out for criticism is a strange hill to die on

Certainly is. I'm not sure how we'd go about replacing him without spending a stupid amount of money. And why we'd want to. He's doing really well.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 23, 2022, 11:23:33 AM
I’m not having that Targett is a better defender than Digne either.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on May 23, 2022, 11:39:07 AM
I’m not having that Targett is a better defender than Digne either.

Digne is more consistent. Targett either seemed to be very good in defence, or absolutely terrible. There were games where he wouldn't give a flying winger a sniff, but also matches where he'd get turned inside out for 90 minutes.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: astonvilla82 on May 23, 2022, 12:17:53 PM
Always the defence getting stick because the Muppets in front can't do there job
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: chrisw1 on May 23, 2022, 12:21:39 PM
I thought Digne finished the season brilliantly, he's absolute class and his delivery is outstanding.

Cash is all action, gets forward well and mostly defends ok.  Unfortunately his delivery still tends to be poor and he lacks composure when he gets into the box.  His header yesterday was brilliant though and I still think he's a very useful player who will hopefully continue to get better.  For the first time in a very long time I am happy enough with our fullbacks.  And with KKH to come hopefully we are covered at rightback for a while yet.  With that said, if an excellent opportunity became available, I wouldn't be entirely against upgrading him - it's such a key position for the way we want to play.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Smithy on May 23, 2022, 12:25:58 PM
I’m not having that Targett is a better defender than Digne either.

It's easier to defend when your first instinct is always a defensive one, or when you stay back with a 'none shall pass' attitude to the whole thing.  Digne is a different sort of player to Targett, always looking to get forward and attack, which means that he's going to get exposed from time to time.  That's the trade-off you make.  But I don't think Targett is a noticeably better defender, all other things being equal.

To be honest, I absolutely loved both his and Cash's contribution for the first goal.  Both full-backs bombing on, one with a great cross, one getting ahead of his opposite full-back for the finish.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: nigel on May 23, 2022, 02:31:43 PM
I’m not having that Targett is a better defender than Digne either.

Only my observation, mate.
Digne, after a slowish start (which I didn’t have an issue with. New player settling in) finished the season excellently.
Targett, for me and a fair few more, is a better defender, but, as Risso says he was pretty inconsistent.

Out of the two I would have Digne every time.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ads on May 23, 2022, 09:26:48 PM
Something a bit naughty about your left back cutting a ball back from the byline for your right back to head home.

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: OCD on May 23, 2022, 09:37:44 PM
With Barber and Patterson we're very good at full-back at youth level too. Then there's KKH on loan to come back who's done well.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 23, 2022, 09:40:29 PM
I’m not having that Targett is a better defender than Digne either.

Only my observation, mate.
Digne, after a slowish start (which I didn’t have an issue with. New player settling in) finished the season excellently.
Targett, for me and a fair few more, is a better defender, but, as Risso says he was pretty inconsistent.

Out of the two I would have Digne every time.

Yeah sorry not a direct response to your view. Agree Digne is top class and will be a big player for us.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: itbrvilla on May 24, 2022, 09:28:55 AM
Matty was at University of Warwick yesterday doing some promo work.  45 mins in hair and make up apparently!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: nigel on May 24, 2022, 09:52:25 AM
I’m not having that Targett is a better defender than Digne either.

Only my observation, mate.
Digne, after a slowish start (which I didn’t have an issue with. New player settling in) finished the season excellently.
Targett, for me and a fair few more, is a better defender, but, as Risso says he was pretty inconsistent.

Out of the two I would have Digne every time.

Yeah sorry not a direct response to your view. Agree Digne is top class and will be a big player for us.

Not a problem 👍
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: brontebilly on May 24, 2022, 04:07:04 PM
Matty was at University of Warwick yesterday doing some promo work.  45 mins in hair and make up apparently!

Superglue required for his hair anyway!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on May 24, 2022, 06:36:21 PM
Another one unconvinced by Cash. I think, like McGinn, he gets a bit of leeway cos of his top attitude.
But he's still got a lot to learn on keeping his shape defensively and not diving-in so much (which he has improved at) and with getting a half-decent cross in more than once in a blue moon. He needs pressure for his place, I don't want him playing every minute of the season cos there's no competition for him.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 24, 2022, 06:45:14 PM
Matty was at University of Warwick yesterday doing some promo work.  45 mins in hair and make up apparently!

Big fan of Matty so good to hear, glad he's not a prima donna.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 24, 2022, 07:10:48 PM
Matty was at University of Warwick yesterday doing some promo work.  45 mins in hair and make up apparently!

Superglue required for his hair anyway!

I could see the haze of Spraymane over the university from Leamington!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: astonvilla82 on May 24, 2022, 09:06:46 PM
Matty was at University of Warwick yesterday doing some promo work.  45 mins in hair and make up apparently!
probably finding out where Birmingham is on the map
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: SaddVillan on June 01, 2022, 05:58:19 PM
Does anybody know  he's not in the Polish squad for tonight's game against Wales?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on June 01, 2022, 06:18:31 PM
Been out partying with the Nottm Forest lads and still hungover.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: WarszaVillan on June 01, 2022, 06:50:15 PM
Does anybody know  he's not in the Polish squad for tonight's game against Wales?

Achilles injury - nothing serious and should be available for the next match.

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: SaddVillan on June 01, 2022, 07:19:40 PM
Dziękuję
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Villafirst on June 01, 2022, 10:38:11 PM
An ankle injury, apparently not too serious.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: SaddVillan on June 11, 2022, 08:09:30 PM
Cashkowski scores for Poland v Netherlands.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dogtanian on June 11, 2022, 08:21:13 PM
Interesting season for him coming up. He’s upped his game season after season for several years now. If he steps up again next season, he’s going to be fantastic.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 12, 2022, 08:21:45 AM
Goal. Lovely finish. We’ve seen him score similar for us.

https://twitter.com/wrighti1/status/1535701889534369793?s=21&t=UIT-WyS70ezFnVBNNoAQZg
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Joe S on June 12, 2022, 08:53:28 AM
Nice finish indeed.
It was nice to see his teammates enjoy it too, he's obviously settled in etc. Good lad !
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 16, 2022, 09:53:10 PM
I really like Matty but as they always say, "Never go shopping with your heroes". https://twitter.com/mattycash622/status/1559598677630619648
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on August 16, 2022, 10:02:55 PM
I really like Matty but as they always say, "Never go shopping with your heroes". https://twitter.com/mattycash622/status/1559598677630619648

Taking inspiration from Grealish with his catalogue poses by the looks of it.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Hookeysmith on August 17, 2022, 01:24:09 PM
I know i am old but for the money these guys have their fashion sense is appalling
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on August 17, 2022, 02:14:52 PM
I know i am old but for the money these guys have their fashion sense is appalling

I think that's harsh, it's the fashion itself that's appalling. My wife was trying on a load of stuff she'd bought before holiday and was massively pissed off with me laughing at most of the stuff.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: VILLA MOLE on August 17, 2022, 02:19:50 PM
I know i am old but for the money these guys have their fashion sense is appalling

I think that's harsh, it's the fashion itself that's appalling. My wife was trying on a load of stuff she'd bought before holiday and was massively pissed off with me laughing at most of the stuff.


You probably shouldn t have posted it on Social media though in fairness to her   :D
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Exeter 77 on August 17, 2022, 05:18:07 PM
The Villa dressing room has seen far worse.
https://images.app.goo.gl/Ny6gpF3FjPes3QyB9
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on August 17, 2022, 05:37:51 PM
I really like Matty but as they always say, "Never go shopping with your heroes". https://twitter.com/mattycash622/status/1559598677630619648

I think he needs a few more pair of trainers.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on August 17, 2022, 06:18:47 PM
The Villa dressing room has seen far worse.
https://images.app.goo.gl/Ny6gpF3FjPes3QyB9

Knew it was going to be the Zog, before clicking.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on August 17, 2022, 07:50:39 PM
I really like Matty but as they always say, "Never go shopping with your heroes". https://twitter.com/mattycash622/status/1559598677630619648

I think he needs a few more pair of trainers.

He looks like he's just scrubbed up to do an emergency caesarean section.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on September 01, 2022, 02:14:47 PM
Really poor defending and performance yesterday and he's been told time and time again.
Disappointing how his standards have dropped.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 12, 2022, 06:18:59 PM
Out of the upcoming Nations League games due to injury so not available for Friday's game.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: darren woolley on September 13, 2022, 01:16:50 PM
Hope he recovers quickly.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: jwarry on September 13, 2022, 01:45:09 PM
Wonder if Fred will make the bench Friday, or doesn’t he have a squad number?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Russ aka Big Nose on September 13, 2022, 02:06:12 PM
Wonder if Fred will make the bench Friday, or doesn’t he have a squad number?
He's not in our PL squad. Most likely Ashley Young will play with a centre-half as back up given Kaine Kesler is out on loan. UTV.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: JD on September 15, 2022, 10:36:51 AM
Wonder if Fred will make the bench Friday, or doesn’t he have a squad number?
He's not in our PL squad. Most likely Ashley Young will play with a centre-half as back up given Kaine Kesler is out on loan. UTV.

Fred is now in the squad.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 28, 2022, 12:30:20 PM
Be prepared for attacking full backs or at least attempting to under Emery.
It's his staple.
I feel an upgrade will be quickly sort in Cash or even Guilbert given a go if Cash delivery doesn't improve.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Mellin on October 29, 2022, 10:02:35 AM
There is absolutely zero chance of Guilbert, who is a perfectly serviceable full back, displacing Matty Cash. Zero.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: RamboandBruno on October 29, 2022, 10:17:18 AM
There is absolutely zero chance of Guilbert, who is a perfectly serviceable full back, displacing Matty Cash. Zero.

I wish we’d just sell Guilbert, if nothing else to stop talk of him and potentially  good he is resurfacing every few months
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on October 29, 2022, 01:23:20 PM
Cash needs competition/an upgrade. His football intell will be seriously tested by Emery.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 29, 2022, 01:29:46 PM
Cash would make a good number 8 - has the legs to get up and down.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Axl Rose on October 29, 2022, 01:31:59 PM
Love Matty. Think Emery will take him up a notch
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 30, 2022, 06:35:29 PM
https://twitter.com/viaplaysportpl/status/1585892873848999937
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on October 30, 2022, 06:39:29 PM
Cash would make a good number 8 - has the legs to get up and down.

Yeah, and bugger-all else. Dives-into challenges, loses his man, can't cross the street (less of an issue centrally, I guess) but I'm hoping Emery has a half-decent full-back lined-up in January cos all our ours have major limitations.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ROBBO on October 30, 2022, 09:46:37 PM
Just on his lack of ability to put a decent cross in is a huge negative, he should be given specialised training, it is a skill you can develop.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Goldie.7 on October 30, 2022, 10:31:51 PM
Awful player. Back pass Andy with 0 assists, 0 goals and when started 0 clean sheets.

I don't rate him and much prefer the exiled Guilbert.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ozzjim on October 30, 2022, 10:57:55 PM
I would have Young back at right back and Digne at left back on current form. Cash has been poor for a while for me.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 30, 2022, 11:13:35 PM
He's stagnated a bit. Showed enough in his first 18 months he can improve further with decent coaching.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 31, 2022, 06:28:31 AM
He's stagnated a bit. Showed enough in his first 18 months he can improve further with decent coaching.

I agree. I think there’s a decent enough player there who will hopefully improve with some clear instructions & some coaching.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 31, 2022, 08:30:30 AM
In the not good enough category.
He won’t be lonely there though.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on October 31, 2022, 08:41:34 AM
Why is it when a player has a bad run of form, he's suddenly labelled not good enough? All players have a bad spell, they always will. Such short memories from a few on here.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 31, 2022, 08:45:08 AM
Why is it when a player has a bad run of form, he's suddenly labelled not good enough? All players have a bad spell, they always will. Such short memories from a few on here.
Because good players have consistency and poor ones like Cash put in the occasional decent  performance.
They don’t have an 18 month bad spell.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on October 31, 2022, 08:50:41 AM
Why is it when a player has a bad run of form, he's suddenly labelled not good enough? All players have a bad spell, they always will. Such short memories from a few on here.
Because good players have consistency and poor ones like Cash put in the occasional decent  performance.
They don’t have an 18 month bad spell.

He hasn't had an 18 month bad spell at all, that's just nonsense.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dave P on October 31, 2022, 08:56:27 AM
I really dont get the hate for Cash?  He is off form by his standards at worst.  I think we have various problems all over the pitch, but full backs isn't really one of them.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 31, 2022, 09:15:27 AM
I really dont get the hate for Cash?  He is off form by his standards at worst.  I think we have various problems all over the pitch, but full backs isn't really one of them.
I don’t hate him at all, I quite like him but he has been shit for a while and his performance against Citeh on the final day was circus clown stuff.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: oldhill_avfc on October 31, 2022, 12:24:04 PM
Why is it when a player has a bad run of form, he's suddenly labelled not good enough? All players have a bad spell, they always will. Such short memories from a few on here.
Because good players have consistency and poor ones like Cash put in the occasional decent  performance.
They don’t have an 18 month bad spell.

He hasn't had an 18 month bad spell at all, that's just nonsense.

Wasn't he player of the season last year?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on October 31, 2022, 01:32:00 PM
Yeah, not sure how. He runs around and looks busy but rarely shows anything attack-wise that comes off and gives away dumb fouls/handballs defensively.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on October 31, 2022, 01:48:32 PM
I think he's been one of our better players this season and is one who I'm certain will really improve under Emery.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 04, 2022, 03:15:37 PM
Cash stated that Emery has already made tactical changes, which will undoubtedly bring new experiences and ideas to the table.
I'm not sure if Cash for one has the capacity to carry them out.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on November 04, 2022, 03:16:02 PM
Cash stated that Emery has already made tactical changes, which will undoubtedly bring new experiences and ideas to the table.
I'm not sure if Cash for one has the capacity to carry them out.

Why?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Axl Rose on November 04, 2022, 03:27:39 PM
I'm sure Matty will be fine, Footy.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: aldridgeboy on November 04, 2022, 03:29:41 PM
Cash is one player in particular I’m really looking forward to being improved under the new manager. He was great in part the last two seasons.  But is ( one of many) off form this year.

I think Cash will have a bright future with us
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 04, 2022, 03:35:56 PM
Cash stated that Emery has already made tactical changes, which will undoubtedly bring new experiences and ideas to the table.
I'm not sure if Cash for one has the capacity to carry them out.

Why?
Football intelligence on the pitch
Not sure if Emery will have him. Think he isn't great off the pitch so will have to focus.
I just believe that if the required level of improvement is not achieved, a better footballer who can play the full back role Emery desires will emerge.

I'd actually like to see KKH involved in some capacity come January, he's always appeared to be a progressive attacking type who would be very welcome down the right side.
Hasn't been working out at Championship Huddersfield, which is disappointing all around, so  loans manager Jedinak will have a plan for him and maybe KKH will be back with Villa during the winter break/world cup and impress.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: villadelph on November 04, 2022, 03:45:48 PM
Cash stated that Emery has already made tactical changes, which will undoubtedly bring new experiences and ideas to the table.
I'm not sure if Cash for one has the capacity to carry them out.

Why?
Football intelligence on the pitch
Not sure if Emery will have him. Think he isn't great off the pitch so will have to focus.
I just believe that if the required level of improvement is not achieved, a better footballer who can play the full back role Emery desires will emerge.

I'd actually like to see KKH involved in some capacity come January, he's always appeared to be a progressive attacking type who would be very welcome down the right side.
Hasn't been working out at Championship Huddersfield, which is disappointing all around, so  loans manager Jedinak will have a plan for him and maybe KKH will be back with Villa during the winter break/world cup and impress.

I think your judging Cash far too harshly on what has transpired over the last 6 months. The organization and tactics of this team were simply appalling. First it was bomb forward and overlap with Bailey, then it was don't overlap stay at home to solidify the back four but you don't have a winger to play with. It was an asinine strategy.

You are omitting the fact that he will now have a properly organized midfield in front of him, which he will greatly benefit from. No more depending on John McGinn to cover for him as he goes forward and completely negates anything Bailey can bring to the team by advancing past him and stealing his space. Gerrard and his "tactics" were a joke.

Cash was our Player of the Year, lest we forget. He will continue to improve under actual coaching.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on November 04, 2022, 03:46:04 PM
Will Cash be at the World Cup? Might be bad for his long-term career at Villa if he's not around for our "pre-season".
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 04, 2022, 03:47:39 PM
Yes he'll be going as long as he's not injured.
I think some players who will be going away may find it comprises the transition to football.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: villadelph on November 04, 2022, 03:49:04 PM
Will Cash be at the World Cup? Might be bad for his long-term career at Villa if he's not around for our "pre-season".

Who would come in for him on the right, though?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 04, 2022, 06:16:40 PM
Will Cash be at the World Cup? Might be bad for his long-term career at Villa if he's not around for our "pre-season".

Who would come in for him on the right, though?
Callum Chambers.
I think Emery likes him.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 07, 2022, 08:13:27 PM
Cash was the major fault for the goal conceded versus Man Utd. It was his missing the header
Poor positional play.
Not the first time he's been caught like this.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 07, 2022, 08:16:21 PM
Major fault? Hardly.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: brontebilly on November 07, 2022, 08:21:21 PM
Ramsey at fault twice for me for that one. Cash improved a lot in the second half.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Villan82 on November 07, 2022, 08:22:18 PM
Honestly. Where does this random, pejorative criticism stem from? Bloody hell.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on November 07, 2022, 08:29:31 PM
Cash was the major fault for the goal conceded versus Man Utd. It was his missing the header
Poor positional play.
Not the first time he's been caught like this.


The nonsense you talk, honestly. It was a high, looping cross that he couldn't get to. When it fell in the area, Ramsey could have got more distance on the clearance possibly, but even then the resulting shot was going miles wide until it took a wicked and unlucky deflection.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 07, 2022, 08:31:29 PM
Nobody was at fault. It was just jammy as fuck.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on November 07, 2022, 08:33:53 PM
Nobody was at fault. It was just jammy as fuck.

Quite.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on November 07, 2022, 08:34:30 PM
There was no major fault, a shot from 25 yards that's heading 2-3 yards wide but deflects into the over side of the net is just bad luck.

Maybe we could do things differently but from what I've seen the xG for the Shaw shot was 0.01 and the deflection was so low it rounded down to 0.00, it's a one in hundreds chance that just went the way of the spawniest bunch of wankers in the league.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: frank black on November 07, 2022, 08:45:30 PM
Cash was the major fault for the goal conceded versus Man Utd. It was his missing the header
Poor positional play.
Not the first time he's been caught like this.


Eh? Hardly.

I enjoyed how Unai communicated with the players on the pitch. He was literally coaching Cash and others throughout. None of the John Gregory slagging off, Lambert incoherent rubbish or Gerrard nothingness. I was impressed, felt like the players appreciated it too. I think Cash will be just fine
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: frank black on November 07, 2022, 08:47:21 PM
Also I noted how he found an extra yard after the Polish Cafu chants.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 07, 2022, 08:50:14 PM
Nobody was at fault. It was just jammy as fuck.

Quite.

There was no major fault, a shot from 25 yards that's heading 2-3 yards wide but deflects into the over side of the net is just bad luck.

Maybe we could do things differently but from what I've seen the xG for the Shaw shot was 0.01 and the deflection was so low it rounded down to 0.00, it's a one in hundreds chance that just went the way of the spawniest bunch of wankers in the league.
Yes there was
In the moments leading up to the goal, Cash missed a
crucial header, so in my opinion, that qualifies as a defensive blunder. I would also add that Ramsey's clearance wasn't particularly strong. Yes, the goal from the shot was fortunate, but we should focus on and consider what happened before the goal. People need to give bit more analysis and thought to the way the ball ultimately arrived go Shaw and that we conceded

Look, Cash failed to deal with the ball when it was crossed, as a result, it was his error of judgement that caused the ball to remain in possession of Man Utd in the danger zone. The ensuing play could have been avoided with a clearance.

There was a lack of composure and a sort of see it through to halftime attitude that allowed Manchester United to take control for the final 5 minutes of the half, where Villa had previously dominated.

Anyway, I hope it's clear what I'm emphasising is Cash failure and resulted in a goal as a result of Cash's inability to effectively clear the ball. That's how I see it, and it's here to debate Cash role. What's not the discussion is on Shaw's shot being deflected in as that is what is fortunate and that's in agreement by all.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 07, 2022, 09:03:48 PM
You've emphasised it, people just disagree. The goal was no failure on anyone's part. Cash played his part in a famous victory, as did all the players, and I'm not sure why you're desperate to type paragraph after paragraph trying to find fault for a goal which was just pure luck, with Emi Martinez getting booked, or whichever other thing you've decided to bang on about today, rather than just enjoying the win.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on November 07, 2022, 09:08:39 PM
Nobody was at fault. It was just jammy as fuck.

Quite.

There was no major fault, a shot from 25 yards that's heading 2-3 yards wide but deflects into the over side of the net is just bad luck.

Maybe we could do things differently but from what I've seen the xG for the Shaw shot was 0.01 and the deflection was so low it rounded down to 0.00, it's a one in hundreds chance that just went the way of the spawniest bunch of wankers in the league.
Yes there was
In the moments leading up to the goal, Cash missed a
crucial header, so in my opinion, that qualifies as a defensive blunder. I would also add that Ramsey's clearance wasn't particularly strong. Yes, the goal from the shot was fortunate, but we should focus on and consider what happened before the goal. People need to give bit more analysis and thought to the way the ball ultimately arrived go Shaw and that we conceded

Look, Cash failed to deal with the ball when it was crossed, as a result, it was his error of judgement that caused the ball to remain in possession of Man Utd in the danger zone. The ensuing play could have been avoided with a clearance.

There was a lack of composure and a sort of see it through to halftime attitude that allowed Manchester United to take control for the final 5 minutes of the half, where Villa had previously dominated.

Anyway, I hope it's clear what I'm emphasising is Cash failure and resulted in a goal as a result of Cash's inability to effectively clear the ball. That's how I see it, and it's here to debate Cash role. What's not the discussion is on Shaw's shot being deflected in as that is what is fortunate and that's in agreement by all.

As ever you're over-analysing something so you can use it to back up an opinion you've already decided on. You've decided Cash will struggle under Emery and when people disagree you create some fantasy scenario to prove yourself right. I guarantee there isn't a single person at the club who's called him aside to discuss his 'major error'.

Listen, we cleared that cross and it fell to their left back who took a pretty poor effort at goal and a massive deflection completely changed it. The exact same play could happen a hundred times and we'd go in at half time 2-0 up in almost all of them. Even in the scenario where Shaw meets it on the volley so perfectly that it's in the net before Martinez moves it still wouldn't be because Cash made a mistake.

All you're emphasising is that Cash (and McGinn) are the players you've decided to shit post about for a while before you flounce off for another break because we don't all bow down to your genius insights.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Tayls_7 on November 07, 2022, 09:12:18 PM
He'll be back with you soon. As ever, he's currently writing essays on ever other current thread going.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: tomd2103 on November 07, 2022, 09:13:08 PM
Thought he had a good game yesterday.  With Bailey in front of him for a lot of the game, the onus wasn't on him to provide attacking width and he had a good battle with their left winger, which he got the better of over the course of the game.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on November 07, 2022, 09:27:10 PM
We had four people on the edge of the area, and the high, looping cross sailed over them all. Cash was closest, but he didn't miss the header, it was too high for him to get to. You might argue that Buendia could have got tighter to Dalot in the first place to prevent the initial cross, or Ramsey mught have booted the ball further up the pitch or into touch. But they weren't major errors, and 99 times out of 100 that shot goes harmlessly wide for a goal kick.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on November 07, 2022, 09:35:03 PM
Their goal was just unfortunate and very lucky. Blaming Cash is laughable, it's just absolute nonsense.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 07, 2022, 09:37:40 PM
We had four people on the edge of the area, and the high, looping cross sailed over them all. Cash was closest, but he didn't miss the header, it was too high for him to get to. You might argue that Buendia could have got tighter to Dalot in the first place to prevent the initial cross, or Ramsey mught have booted the ball further up the pitch or into touch. But they weren't major errors, and 99 times out of 100 that shot goes harmlessly wide for a goal kick.
It's called positioning! Cash position and body shape to defend that wasn't right. Emery will see that.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 07, 2022, 09:38:38 PM
Their goal was just unfortunate and very lucky. Blaming Cash is laughable, it's just absolute nonsense.
Actually it's just in my opinion, and was hoping more would be likely and willing to even consider an observation and careful analysis of the goal conceded. If not fair enough simply state that you disagree with it in you comment. I only ever want to encourage discussion but understand disagreement.

Emery will, in my opinion, be like Dean Smith's momentum and gain a lengthy winning streak that will propel us up the league. I wouldn't be shocked if we even won a cup this year!
I also wouldn't be shocked if Cash or McGinn didn't eventually become less important figures in the team.

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on November 07, 2022, 09:39:02 PM
It's called having an agenda. A boring, monotonous agenda.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 07, 2022, 09:39:55 PM
Nobody was at fault. It was just jammy as fuck.

Quite.

There was no major fault, a shot from 25 yards that's heading 2-3 yards wide but deflects into the over side of the net is just bad luck.

Maybe we could do things differently but from what I've seen the xG for the Shaw shot was 0.01 and the deflection was so low it rounded down to 0.00, it's a one in hundreds chance that just went the way of the spawniest bunch of wankers in the league.
Yes there was
In the moments leading up to the goal, Cash missed a
crucial header, so in my opinion, that qualifies as a defensive blunder. I would also add that Ramsey's clearance wasn't particularly strong. Yes, the goal from the shot was fortunate, but we should focus on and consider what happened before the goal. People need to give bit more analysis and thought to the way the ball ultimately arrived go Shaw and that we conceded

Look, Cash failed to deal with the ball when it was crossed, as a result, it was his error of judgement that caused the ball to remain in possession of Man Utd in the danger zone. The ensuing play could have been avoided with a clearance.

There was a lack of composure and a sort of see it through to halftime attitude that allowed Manchester United to take control for the final 5 minutes of the half, where Villa had previously dominated.

Anyway, I hope it's clear what I'm emphasising is Cash failure and resulted in a goal as a result of Cash's inability to effectively clear the ball. That's how I see it, and it's here to debate Cash role. What's not the discussion is on Shaw's shot being deflected in as that is what is fortunate and that's in agreement by all.

As ever you're over-analysing something so you can use it to back up an opinion you've already decided on. You've decided Cash will struggle under Emery and when people disagree you create some fantasy scenario to prove yourself right. I guarantee there isn't a single person at the club who's called him aside to discuss his 'major error'.

Listen, we cleared that cross and it fell to their left back who took a pretty poor effort at goal and a massive deflection completely changed it. The exact same play could happen a hundred times and we'd go in at half time 2-0 up in almost all of them. Even in the scenario where Shaw meets it on the volley so perfectly that it's in the net before Martinez moves it still wouldn't be because Cash made a mistake.

All you're emphasising is that Cash (and McGinn) are the players you've decided to shit post about for a while before you flounce off for another break because we don't all bow down to your genius insights.
You'll find, though, that I'm willing to point out players' amazing qualities but also their flaws, whereas you've chosen to only suggest that I disparage players when that is completely inaccurate.
It's also unkind how critical the nature of what comments get made by my being and any leaving the forum is because of the unwelcome behaviour or being overwhelmed but I guess I'm over analysing things and  I have to says I'm yet again having to defend (better than Cash by the way) myself in those attempting to tarnish and override my comments, which are just as valid as anyone else's.
We are not required to agree. And thats ok.

Up the Villa!

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 07, 2022, 09:40:06 PM
Please consider the possibility that if everybody else disagrees, it might be you, rather than everybody else, that is wrong.

Also, the way you present your views comes across as you thinking everybody else is too stupid to see what you claim to have spotted, and gets people's backs up.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on November 07, 2022, 09:47:21 PM
You'll find, though, that I'm willing to point out players' amazing qualities but also their flaws, whereas you've chosen to only suggest that I disparage players when that is completely inaccurate.
It's also unkind how critical the nature of what comments get made by my being and any leaving the forum is because of the unwelcome behaviour or being overwhelmed but I guess I'm over analysing things and  I have to says I'm yet again having to defend (better than Cash by the way) myself in those attempting to tarnish and override my comments, which are just as valid as anyone else's.
We are not required to agree. And thats ok.

Up the Villa!

Nope, not remotely what I'm suggesting, as Risso said, you create an agenda and then spend many posts across multiple threads posting any old shit you can imagine to prove yourself right.

People have ago because it's so fucking transparent, you normally setup a string of complaints with something fairly innocuous before doubling and tripling down on it over the next few days.

Sometimes you post things that are good but it's the depserate attempts to prove you know more about the game than anyone else that annoys people.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on November 07, 2022, 09:47:43 PM
Their goal was just unfortunate and very lucky. Blaming Cash is laughable, it's just absolute nonsense.
Actually it's just in my opinion, and was hoping more would be likely and willing to even consider an observation and careful analysis of the goal conceded. If not fair enough simply state that you disagree with it in you comment. I only ever want to encourage discussion but understand disagreement.

Emery will, in my opinion, be like Dean Smith's momentum and gain a lengthy winning streak that will propel us up the league. I wouldn't be shocked if we even won a cup this year!
I also wouldn't be shocked if Cash or McGinn didn't eventually become less important figures in the team.



I think it's quite obvious that I disagree with it Footy.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Villan82 on November 07, 2022, 10:10:38 PM
Please consider the possibility that if everybody else disagrees, it might be you, rather than everybody else, that is wrong.

Also, the way you present your views comes across as you thinking everybody else is too stupid to see what you claim to have spotted, and gets people's backs up.

Can we pin this to the threads please?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on November 07, 2022, 10:16:24 PM
Please consider the possibility that if everybody else disagrees, it might be you, rather than everybody else, that is wrong.

Also, the way you present your views comes across as you thinking everybody else is too stupid to see what you claim to have spotted, and gets people's backs up.

Can we pin this to the threads please?
All thirty of them?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: robleflaneur on November 07, 2022, 10:53:42 PM
 Which PL teams would Cash be first choice for ?Some play wing backs.I would suggest all except for Man City,Chelsea,Newcastle,perhaps Arsenal (White),Liverpool (Trent's a Klopp favourite),Dalot (Utd)  and Semedo at Wolves gets praise.
Add another team for bias.But somehow he's a problem area for us.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 07, 2022, 11:30:25 PM
Please consider the possibility that if everybody else disagrees, it might be you, rather than everybody else, that is wrong.

Also, the way you present your views comes across as you thinking everybody else is too stupid to see what you claim to have spotted, and gets people's backs up.

Can we pin this to the threads please?
All thirty of them?

Let us not try to prevent people from speaking for themselves; rather, it is about being open to considering something you haven't considered before. It is neither about being everyone wrong or everyone is right, in my opinion.

I bring critical thought and diversity of thought, and whenever I do, attempts are made to shut me down by dismissing it in various ways!

Oh so apparently as I'm thinking everyone is too stupid to see what I've claimed I've spotted.

Well I've spotted something else to bring to the attention
Its called group think .
In this case I am right and the only wrong by others is their behaviour in jumping on to make fun and lack of awareness in considering things.

We can all move on now and perhaps look to advance our discussions on footballing matters with allowances and not group think mentality. Pin that!

Up The Villa.

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: olaftab on November 07, 2022, 11:36:37 PM
Please consider the possibility that if everybody else disagrees, it might be you, rather than everybody else, that is wrong.

Also, the way you present your views comes across as you thinking everybody else is too stupid to see what you claim to have spotted, and gets people's backs up.
There is no need for this as Ads no longer posts on here.😘
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 07, 2022, 11:36:45 PM
Also, the way you present your views comes across as you thinking everybody else is too stupid to see what you claim to have spotted, and gets people's backs up.

I'm pretty sure he will take this on board.

In this case I am right and the only wrong by others is their behaviour in jumping on to make fun and lack of awareness in considering things

Oh, maybe not.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 07, 2022, 11:53:07 PM
Also, the way you present your views comes across as you thinking everybody else is too stupid to see what you claim to have spotted, and gets people's backs up.

I'm pretty sure he will take this on board.

In this case I am right and the only wrong by others is their behaviour in jumping on to make fun and lack of awareness in considering things

Oh, maybe not.
Context! When quoting!
I am right... that it's groupthink behaviour
I'm not here to discuss no more.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 08, 2022, 12:05:26 AM
Loved that clench fist he did towards the Holte towards the end when he won a goal kick.

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on November 08, 2022, 12:25:33 AM
It's got nothjng to do with group think in the slightest. Plenty of people have disagreements on here. The difference is that most don't claim to have done extra analysis or be on a higher level of critical thinking.

If you want discussion you present ideas and ask for opinions, you don't present things as some deeper interpretation that the masses can't understand and sulk when people get annoyed at you.

For example "Could Cash have kept a couple of yards wider and cleared the cross for their goal?" is a talking point and opens a conversation.

"Cash made a major error for their goal" is clearly wrong on a number of levels and gers the responses you've seen.

On the conversation version I'd have expected someone who studies the game so deeply to have noticed that both full backs were intentionally narrow to encourage them to play long deep crosses which we were confident in handling. It was also part of a plan to draw their players wider meaning we could pick passes straight through them in transition. Our first goal and a number of other decent chances cane directly as a result of it
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Bad English on November 08, 2022, 06:05:49 AM
We definitely caned them.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: chrisw1 on November 08, 2022, 09:10:03 AM
Steady on folks there's some strong posts here.

It's true that Cash wasn't at fault for the goal, he couldn't quite reach the cross as he was back peddaling.  If there's any fault it's probbaly that Ramsey's clearance wasn't strong enough, but as Paul said it was more fluke than anything.

With that said, whilst Cash did play well I also have concens about him at times.  He's energetic and probably at his best when driving forward from a loose ball, but his end product whether cross or shot is more often than not pretty woeful.  I'm interested to see if Emery can improve him, but otherwise I agree with footy - right back may be an area we need to strengthen soon enough (unless KKH makes the step up)   
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 08, 2022, 09:12:31 AM
Nah, he's the best right back we've had in decades. Not worried about him at all. And KKH can't get in the Huddersfield team at the moment.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: chrisw1 on November 08, 2022, 09:14:58 AM
I'd like more end product CD.  Probbaly Gerrard expected too much of him in that all our width was to come from fullbacks, but even so more often than not Cash wastes the ball if he gets anywhere in or around our box.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on November 08, 2022, 09:21:23 AM

With that said, whilst Cash did play well I also have concens about him at times.  He's energetic and probably at his best when driving forward from a loose ball, but his end product whether cross or shot is more often than not pretty woeful.  I'm interested to see if Emery can improve him, but otherwise I agree with footy - right back may be an area we need to strengthen soon enough (unless KKH makes the step up)   

Nobody in the team has played consistently well for over a year though, so you could reasonably make a case for replacing any of them with the probable exceptions of Martinez and Luiz. In my opinion, Cash has been one of the 'least worst' though. He's quick and tenacious and has a decent amount of skill, plenty for Emery to work with.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on November 08, 2022, 10:02:59 AM
It's called having an agenda. A boring, monotonous agenda.

It's like a continuous stream of Talksport drive time hot takes.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 08, 2022, 10:08:25 AM

With that said, whilst Cash did play well I also have concens about him at times.  He's energetic and probably at his best when driving forward from a loose ball, but his end product whether cross or shot is more often than not pretty woeful.  I'm interested to see if Emery can improve him, but otherwise I agree with footy - right back may be an area we need to strengthen soon enough (unless KKH makes the step up)   

Nobody in the team has played consistently well for over a year though, so you could reasonably make a case for replacing any of them with the probable exceptions of Martinez and Luiz. In my opinion, Cash has been one of the 'least worst' though. He's quick and tenacious and has a decent amount of skill, plenty for Emery to work with.

It's called having an agenda. A boring, monotonous agenda.

It's like a continuous stream of Talksport drive time hot takes.
Well lets make note he made a foul throw!
Nobody in the team makes foul throws the way he does. He use to make hand balls but I've seen his throwing has been an issue and he does them a fair share of illegal moves due to not thinking.

He was penalised for a foul throw against Manchester United, which should not have happened at this level. His overall play needs to be far more intelligent. Some of that is due to lavjbof composure and decsuons making as much as to ability. He would need to channel his exuberance like McGinn, which is why I feel there isn't the necessary thoughtfulness in their play for all their desire and they are both inclined to make unnecessary or wild challenges. There are positives to his right back play but for sure Cash can work on his decision making.

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Tayls_7 on November 08, 2022, 10:29:21 AM

With that said, whilst Cash did play well I also have concens about him at times.  He's energetic and probably at his best when driving forward from a loose ball, but his end product whether cross or shot is more often than not pretty woeful.  I'm interested to see if Emery can improve him, but otherwise I agree with footy - right back may be an area we need to strengthen soon enough (unless KKH makes the step up)   

Nobody in the team has played consistently well for over a year though, so you could reasonably make a case for replacing any of them with the probable exceptions of Martinez and Luiz. In my opinion, Cash has been one of the 'least worst' though. He's quick and tenacious and has a decent amount of skill, plenty for Emery to work with.

It's called having an agenda. A boring, monotonous agenda.

It's like a continuous stream of Talksport drive time hot takes.
Well lets make note he made a foul throw!
Nobody in the team makes foul throws the way he does. He use to make hand balls but I've seen his throwing has been an issue and he does them a fair share of illegal moves due to not thinking.

He was penalised for a foul throw against Manchester United, which should not have happened at this level. His overall play needs to be far more intelligent. Some of that is due to lavjbof composure and decsuons making as much as to ability. He would need to channel his exuberance like McGinn, which is why I feel there isn't the necessary thoughtfulness in their play for all their desire and they are both inclined to make unnecessary or wild challenges. There are positives to his right back play but for sure Cash can work on his decision making.

Human factors.  I'm guessing not your strong suit Footy.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on November 08, 2022, 11:07:37 AM
Now he makes lots of foul throws. Footy, please give it a rest.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Axl Rose on November 08, 2022, 11:11:14 AM
I do like Matty. Liked him at Forest and was chuffed when we signed him.

Will get better under Emery I think, and become a more refined, classy player.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Paul.S on November 08, 2022, 11:24:03 AM

With that said, whilst Cash did play well I also have concens about him at times.  He's energetic and probably at his best when driving forward from a loose ball, but his end product whether cross or shot is more often than not pretty woeful.  I'm interested to see if Emery can improve him, but otherwise I agree with footy - right back may be an area we need to strengthen soon enough (unless KKH makes the step up)   

Nobody in the team has played consistently well for over a year though, so you could reasonably make a case for replacing any of them with the probable exceptions of Martinez and Luiz. In my opinion, Cash has been one of the 'least worst' though. He's quick and tenacious and has a decent amount of skill, plenty for Emery to work with.

It's called having an agenda. A boring, monotonous agenda.

It's like a continuous stream of Talksport drive time hot takes.
Well lets make note he made a foul throw!
Nobody in the team makes foul throws the way he does. He use to make hand balls but I've seen his throwing has been an issue and he does them a fair share of illegal moves due to not thinking.

He was penalised for a foul throw against Manchester United, which should not have happened at this level. His overall play needs to be far more intelligent. Some of that is due to lavjbof composure and decsuons making as much as to ability. He would need to channel his exuberance like McGinn, which is why I feel there isn't the necessary thoughtfulness in their play for all their desire and they are both inclined to make unnecessary or wild challenges. There are positives to his right back play but for sure Cash can work on his decision making.

I saw at least 2 foul throws from Utd players after Cash was pulled up for his. You see them every game from a lot of players but it’s never penalised. The crowd called them out at the time but it wasn’t a surprise they weren’t pulled up for them. I thought Cash had an excellent game on Sunday which coincides with us having a technically aware coach that actually provides him with help. Under Gerrard he was often up against 2 opponents as we were slow to shuffle over and help him out. I’d say right back was the least of our issues at the moment.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on November 08, 2022, 11:39:33 AM
I can't remember Cash ever being called up for a foul throw before and on Sunday he was clearly trying to take a quick one to put Bailey through. I firmly believe it only got pulled back because we'd have been in with a great chance at adding to our lead if i had played on.

Singling it out as a problem area for him does nothing to disabuse the belief that this is an agenda rather than an attempt to start a conversation or give a balanced review of him as a player.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on November 08, 2022, 11:48:50 AM
Nobody ever gets foul throws given anymore. This kind of shit only happens in games against them and their ilk.

Thought Taylor took it too far though when he decided to play holding midfield for them to block Doug's pass. We were bloody through on that side as well.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: WassallVillain on November 08, 2022, 11:54:18 AM
Try coming away from your perfect world setting occasionally Footy.

Matty Cash  is no more a serial offender than any other and as professionals every player pushes the boundaries these days.  As another poster observed there are several foul throws per game.  Very few get punished. As the referee pulled up MC I observed the next few and the very next one a MU player threw it in with one leg raised.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: not3bad on November 08, 2022, 11:58:37 AM
I saw at least 2 foul throws from Utd players after Cash was pulled up for his. You see them every game from a lot of players but it’s never penalised. The crowd called them out at the time but it wasn’t a surprise they weren’t pulled up for them.

Indeed I heard many comments to this effect in the Lower Holte (I didn't spot the foul throws I must admit).
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: bob on November 08, 2022, 12:30:34 PM
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Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: bob on November 08, 2022, 12:31:26 PM
It's got nothjng to do with group think in the slightest. Plenty of people have disagreements on here. The difference is that most don't claim to have done extra analysis or be on a higher level of critical thinking.

If you want discussion you present ideas and ask for opinions, you don't present things as some deeper interpretation that the masses can't understand and sulk when people get annoyed at you.

For example "Could Cash have kept a couple of yards wider and cleared the cross for their goal?" is a talking point and opens a conversation.

"Cash made a major error for their goal" is clearly wrong on a number of levels and gers the responses you've seen.

On the conversation version I'd have expected someone who studies the game so deeply to have noticed that both full backs were intentionally narrow to encourage them to play long deep crosses which we were confident in handling. It was also part of a plan to draw their players wider meaning we could pick passes straight through them in transition. Our first goal and a number of other decent chances cane directly as a result of it

You are a very weird dude.

Strong lives-in-mum's-basement vibes.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 08, 2022, 12:38:32 PM
Nobody ever gets foul throws given anymore. This kind of shit only happens in games against them and their ilk.

Thought Taylor took it too far though when he decided to play holding midfield for them to block Doug's pass. We were bloody through on that side as well.
Yes good observation! Poor by Taylor!
For me when a ref does that he should either be automatically subbed there and then or sit out the next round of matches.
It was inexcusable and causes a lot of unnecessary annoyance

Officials who decide to block passing lanes are a hindrance to football society.  Gets everyones dander up!
How much thinking do refs do on positioning.

I also feel they stop quick free kicks because if the pace for them is too much. It's  a real act of self indulgence on officials.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: bob on November 08, 2022, 12:42:24 PM
My dander was also at its highest at that point.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 08, 2022, 12:51:22 PM
What is it about refs and Manchester United games that makes us so angry? It's like they deliberately decide to be extra incompetent and bias.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: dave shelley on November 08, 2022, 12:55:09 PM
Footy mate, you're getting in way over your head, quit now before you really do make a fool of yourself.

No official deliberately gets in the way of a pass to prevent one team attacking/defending, unless he's been bribed (can happen) but really?  To suggest so is a slur on referee's morals, as bad as they can be.  When a pass is made with power and pace the chances are of a referee getting out of the way is like trying to outrun a cheetah.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on November 08, 2022, 12:56:22 PM
It's got nothjng to do with group think in the slightest. Plenty of people have disagreements on here. The difference is that most don't claim to have done extra analysis or be on a higher level of critical thinking.

If you want discussion you present ideas and ask for opinions, you don't present things as some deeper interpretation that the masses can't understand and sulk when people get annoyed at you.

For example "Could Cash have kept a couple of yards wider and cleared the cross for their goal?" is a talking point and opens a conversation.

"Cash made a major error for their goal" is clearly wrong on a number of levels and gers the responses you've seen.

On the conversation version I'd have expected someone who studies the game so deeply to have noticed that both full backs were intentionally narrow to encourage them to play long deep crosses which we were confident in handling. It was also part of a plan to draw their players wider meaning we could pick passes straight through them in transition. Our first goal and a number of other decent chances cane directly as a result of it

You are a very weird dude.

Strong lives-in-mum's-basement vibes.

Thank you Bob for that valuable and relevant post. Instead of trying to explain to a poster why he sets himself up to feel attacked lets just insult people and talk about Matty Cash being a serial foul-thrower on the back of 1 all season.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Villan82 on November 08, 2022, 01:08:31 PM
We beat Man Ure at home in the league for the first time since 1995!

What the hell am I reading in here? Rejoice in the win FFS
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Paul.S on November 08, 2022, 01:09:24 PM
I saw at least 2 foul throws from Utd players after Cash was pulled up for his. You see them every game from a lot of players but it’s never penalised. The crowd called them out at the time but it wasn’t a surprise they weren’t pulled up for them.

Indeed I heard many comments to this effect in the Lower Holte (I didn't spot the foul throws I must admit).

The one was for exactly what he pulled Cash up for with both feet not being on the ground and the other, which happens every game, was more like a throw down and a throw in ( that’s the best description I can offer, sorry). Now let’s see how hot the officials are on it in the games to come.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: olaftab on November 08, 2022, 01:23:42 PM
...
You are a very weird dude.

Strong lives-in-mum's-basement vibes.
Wow...what bollocks!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Axl Rose on November 08, 2022, 01:29:08 PM
...
You are a very weird dude.

Strong lives-in-mum's-basement vibes.
Wow...what bollocks!

Agreed. What the absolute fuck.

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on November 08, 2022, 01:36:38 PM
Disgraceful. He lives in the attic.

That was a joke, just kidding!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on November 08, 2022, 01:41:43 PM
Disgraceful. He lives in the attic.

That was a joke, just kidding!

No, you're right, the damp in the basement was causing hell with my joints.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on November 08, 2022, 01:52:05 PM
Disgraceful. He lives in the attic.

That was a joke, just kidding!

No, you're right, the damp in the basement was causing hell with my joints.

Yep, it's definitely tougher to smoke in a damp environment.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on November 08, 2022, 02:06:11 PM
Disgraceful. He lives in the attic.

That was a joke, just kidding!

No, you're right, the damp in the basement was causing hell with my joints.

Yep, it's definitely tougher to smoke in a damp environment.

Tell me about it, had to start making cakes instead!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: john e on November 08, 2022, 03:05:45 PM
analysis or be on a higher level of critical thinking.
It's got nothjng to do with group think in the slightest. Plenty of people have disagreements on here. The difference is that most don't claim to have done extra

If you want discussion you present ideas and ask for opinions, you don't present things as some deeper interpretation that the masses can't understand and sulk when people get annoyed at you.

For example "Could Cash have kept a couple of yards wider and cleared the cross for their goal?" is a talking point and opens a conversation.

"Cash made a major error for their goal" is clearly wrong on a number of levels and gers the responses you've seen.

On the conversation version I'd have expected someone who studies the game so deeply to have noticed that both full backs were intentionally narrow to encourage them to play long deep crosses which we were confident in handling. It was also part of a plan to draw their players wider meaning we could pick passes straight through them in transition. Our first goal and a number of other decent chances cane directly as a result of it

You are a very weird dude.

Strong lives-in-mum's-basement vibes.


bit of a low blow there Bob
yes he is a bit wierd but none more so than a lot of us saddoes on here me included
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on November 08, 2022, 03:35:04 PM
Is this "the" Bob? If so, get Damon to come back too. You guys used to go drinking, right?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Monty on November 08, 2022, 03:58:11 PM
analysis or be on a higher level of critical thinking.
It's got nothjng to do with group think in the slightest. Plenty of people have disagreements on here. The difference is that most don't claim to have done extra

If you want discussion you present ideas and ask for opinions, you don't present things as some deeper interpretation that the masses can't understand and sulk when people get annoyed at you.

For example "Could Cash have kept a couple of yards wider and cleared the cross for their goal?" is a talking point and opens a conversation.

"Cash made a major error for their goal" is clearly wrong on a number of levels and gers the responses you've seen.

On the conversation version I'd have expected someone who studies the game so deeply to have noticed that both full backs were intentionally narrow to encourage them to play long deep crosses which we were confident in handling. It was also part of a plan to draw their players wider meaning we could pick passes straight through them in transition. Our first goal and a number of other decent chances cane directly as a result of it

You are a very weird dude.

Strong lives-in-mum's-basement vibes.


bit of a low blow there Bob
yes he is a bit wierd but none more so than a lot of us saddoes on here me included

Speak for yourself, I'm just a perfectly normal grown adult man who has posted on this Aston Villa football forum, now let's see how many times, twenty...oh no
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Small Rodent on November 08, 2022, 05:16:58 PM
Well Cash is in my World Cup fantasy team. So there!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on November 08, 2022, 05:21:37 PM
analysis or be on a higher level of critical thinking.
It's got nothjng to do with group think in the slightest. Plenty of people have disagreements on here. The difference is that most don't claim to have done extra

If you want discussion you present ideas and ask for opinions, you don't present things as some deeper interpretation that the masses can't understand and sulk when people get annoyed at you.

For example "Could Cash have kept a couple of yards wider and cleared the cross for their goal?" is a talking point and opens a conversation.

"Cash made a major error for their goal" is clearly wrong on a number of levels and gers the responses you've seen.

On the conversation version I'd have expected someone who studies the game so deeply to have noticed that both full backs were intentionally narrow to encourage them to play long deep crosses which we were confident in handling. It was also part of a plan to draw their players wider meaning we could pick passes straight through them in transition. Our first goal and a number of other decent chances cane directly as a result of it

You are a very weird dude.

Strong lives-in-mum's-basement vibes.


bit of a low blow there Bob
yes he is a bit wierd but none more so than a lot of us saddoes on here me included

Speak for yourself, I'm just a perfectly normal grown adult man who has posted on this Aston Villa football forum, now let's see how many times, twenty...oh no


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Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Monty on November 08, 2022, 05:25:55 PM
You're right, looking at them now they are abominably noob.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Sexual Ealing on November 08, 2022, 05:31:26 PM
Disgraceful. He lives in the attic.

That was a joke, just kidding!

People who live in attics are SAAAAD. For the previous six months in England, my wife and I were living with her parents on the top floor of their house. Was that floor ever an attic? Sure. Did I have to duck to go to the loo because of the sloping ceiling? You bet.

But living in an attic? Pah, no way!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Monty on November 08, 2022, 05:42:54 PM
Disgraceful. He lives in the attic.

That was a joke, just kidding!

People who live in attics are SAAAAD. For the previous six months in England, my wife and I were living with her parents on the top floor of their house. Was that floor ever an attic? Sure. Did I have to duck to go to the loo because of the sloping ceiling? You bet.

But living in an attic? Pah, no way!

The penthouse suite, I think you'll find.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Sexual Ealing on November 08, 2022, 05:45:37 PM
Thank you, Monty. That is correct.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on November 08, 2022, 05:50:07 PM
Disgraceful. He lives in the attic.

That was a joke, just kidding!

People who live in attics are SAAAAD. For the previous six months in England, my wife and I were living with her parents on the top floor of their house. Was that floor ever an attic? Sure. Did I have to duck to go to the loo because of the sloping ceiling? You bet.

But living in an attic? Pah, no way!

The penthouse suite, I think you'll find.

Ah but were there any Penthouse Pets?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Sexual Ealing on November 08, 2022, 05:52:53 PM
Just had to Google that. There weren't.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Monty on November 08, 2022, 06:02:07 PM
Just had to Google that. There weren't.

On safe mode, I hope.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on November 08, 2022, 06:04:36 PM
Just had to Google that. There weren't.

"No, I'm serious, I was just researching something said by my Internet friends"
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Sexual Ealing on November 08, 2022, 06:05:24 PM
I clicked on nothing!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: bob on November 09, 2022, 03:32:39 PM

You are a very weird dude.

Strong lives-in-mum's-basement vibes.


bit of a low blow there Bob
yes he is a bit wierd but none more so than a lot of us saddoes on here me included

Good point John
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: bob on November 09, 2022, 03:35:35 PM
Is this "the" Bob? If so, get Damon to come back too. You guys used to go drinking, right?

No only his dad, but he disowned me a while back.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 10, 2022, 06:16:19 PM
Lewandowski and Cash will both be playing for Poland's national team.
Generally speaking, I don't hold out much hope for Poland to beat Argentina, but since that is their final group game, Argentina might have qualified by then.

On Cash throw ins I think Emery and the coaching staff would have already engaged him on how to take them now and don't think he'll make the error again.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on November 10, 2022, 06:30:16 PM
The only one moaning about his one foul throw is you. It's tedious.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 10, 2022, 06:35:16 PM
The only one moaning about his one foul throw is you. It's tedious.
Hardly moaning. It was observations. Which was a truth as he was penislised. The bigger picture is that those sort of entry level errors will be removed. So that's positive.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on November 10, 2022, 06:36:50 PM
Which was a truth as he was penislised.


(https://i.ibb.co/5M46m55/Kenneth-Williams.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5M46m55)
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on November 10, 2022, 06:38:16 PM
Which was a truth as he was penislised.


(https://i.ibb.co/5M46m55/Kenneth-Williams.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5M46m55)

Well, it was a cock up.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 13, 2022, 02:41:43 PM
My observations of Cash at Brighton today see him somewhat mind elsewhere. I can see him being substituted
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Axl Rose on November 13, 2022, 02:50:34 PM
My observations of Cash at Brighton today see him somewhat mind elsewhere. I can see him being substituted

He's seemed pretty solid today, footy.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Tayls_7 on November 13, 2022, 02:56:50 PM
My observations of Cash at Brighton today see him somewhat mind elsewhere. I can see him being substituted

There's summat wrong with someone.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on November 13, 2022, 02:57:14 PM
Match thread.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on November 13, 2022, 04:18:57 PM
Great bit of play to get into the area and start the move for the second goal, he now seems to be picking and choosing when to get forward to better effect.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 19, 2022, 10:16:27 AM
Stumbled across this.
https://twitter.com/jackkenmare_/status/1593892151276064768?t=LRY4ZirnACZrK8NbfbWPFA&s=19
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dogtanian on November 24, 2022, 08:35:35 AM
What kind of a crap excuse for a manager gets arsey about an employee leaving for an opportunity to play professional football!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: SaddVillan on November 24, 2022, 04:47:50 PM
https://twitter.com/mattycash622/status/1595801744243625984?t=5UDbK_mtgRa39GJOp3r3Rg&s=08

Polish advert featuring Matty Cash.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 24, 2022, 05:04:27 PM
https://twitter.com/mattycash622/status/1595801744243625984?t=5UDbK_mtgRa39GJOp3r3Rg&s=08

Polish advert featuring Matty Cash.

Metty Cesh! Metty Cesh!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dogtanian on November 24, 2022, 05:10:27 PM
His Polish is coming on in leaps and bounds.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 24, 2022, 05:46:34 PM
Probably not an ad Wayne Rooney could have done and not just because he doesn't speak Polish.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on November 26, 2022, 03:22:01 PM
Well done Matty on a great performance for your team’s win in the WC. Proud of our Villans!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Pete3206 on November 26, 2022, 03:29:46 PM
Decent 2nd half I'd say. He was all over the place in the 1st.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Lastfootstamper on November 26, 2022, 03:39:24 PM
First half, I thought he played like someone that had psyched themselves up a little too much beforehand.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on November 26, 2022, 05:01:25 PM
https://twitter.com/mattycash622/status/1595801744243625984?t=5UDbK_mtgRa39GJOp3r3Rg&s=08

Polish advert featuring Matty Cash.

That is hill-air! Who was the last Villan in a tv ad while on our books? Presumably Grealish but I'm hoping for Earl Barrett or Carl Tiler tbh.

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: olaftab on November 26, 2022, 05:13:25 PM
MotM today IMO. ;)
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: dave shelley on November 26, 2022, 05:42:32 PM
https://twitter.com/mattycash622/status/1595801744243625984?t=5UDbK_mtgRa39GJOp3r3Rg&s=08

Polish advert featuring Matty Cash.

That is hill-air! Who was the last Villan in a tv ad while on our books? Presumably Grealish but I'm hoping for Earl Barrett or Carl Tiler tbh.



Didn't Southgate do one for Pizza Hut in 1996?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on November 26, 2022, 05:58:47 PM
Yes, he made himself look an eejit in a brown paper bag while teammates took the piss.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: not3bad on November 26, 2022, 07:24:21 PM
First half, I thought he played like someone that had psyched themselves up a little too much beforehand.

https://twitter.com/Skazzav2/status/1596521038120366080?s=20&t=qawWtBjaBy6CDhDGOyeRRA
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: darren woolley on November 26, 2022, 08:51:26 PM
Well done Matty you were brilliant.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 01, 2022, 01:41:13 PM
Living his best life as Poland make the final 16, was presented with a Lionel Messi shirt by his mate Emi Martinez after yesterday’s game.

https://twitter.com/messilizer/status/1598300017218969600?s=46&t=9MTaoTzUBz6O8wT728kqcw
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Scratchins on December 01, 2022, 01:47:04 PM
Danny Murphy on Talksport saying that Matty is pushing himself forward for a move to a big club. Do one Murphy.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: astonvilla82 on December 01, 2022, 02:01:23 PM
Danny Murphy on Talksport saying that Matty is pushing himself forward for a move to a big club. Do one Murphy.
I think he actually hates Aston Villa
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: chrisw1 on December 01, 2022, 02:05:14 PM
Danny Murphy on Talksport saying that Matty is pushing himself forward for a move to a big club. Do one Murphy.
I think he actually hates Aston Villa
It's just trolling now, surely?

Frankly if a 'big' club wanted him for £40m I'd bite their hands off.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: nigel on December 01, 2022, 06:17:48 PM
Danny Murphy on Talksport saying that Matty is pushing himself forward for a move to a big club. Do one Murphy.
I think he actually hates Aston Villa

Danny Murphy is a complete pr!ck
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on December 01, 2022, 07:24:38 PM
Can't see Cash moving anywhere higher than us. He's mid-table Prem level at best.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 01, 2022, 07:32:02 PM
He's class. He will finish far higher than mid-table with us.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Scovilla on December 01, 2022, 08:26:28 PM
Danny Murphy on Talksport saying that Matty is pushing himself forward for a move to a big club. Do one Murphy.
I think he actually hates Aston Villa

Danny Murphy is a complete pr!ck
I approve this message!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: clash city rocker on December 02, 2022, 09:54:29 AM
Well Danny Murphy never played for a big club because he never played for us.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on December 04, 2022, 05:00:47 PM
Well done to Matty on his WC experience. Top 16 with his team is no mean feat. UTV!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Bad English on December 04, 2022, 05:04:24 PM
Yes, fair play.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: olaftab on December 04, 2022, 05:06:15 PM
Yes well done Matt. 4 games at the highest stage, learnt a lot huge experience and last two games facing Messi and Mbappe just doesn’t get better.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Astnor on December 04, 2022, 05:23:19 PM
It will be very far from the truth to say that RB Matty Cash did control his area and had the French left forward (Mpappe) in his pocket. Lets hope the experience do him all good.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: OCD on December 05, 2022, 11:39:21 AM
He did well against Mbappe for about 70 minutes. Mbappe's class showed in the end though.

As for Danny Murphy, I'm sure he makes a lot of money being controversial. He's either very smart by acting as an antagonist on TalkShite or as thick as shit for not knowing about the size of our club and the owner's standings and ambition. I imagine it's the former though and there will be others.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 05, 2022, 12:02:18 PM
I'm not sure Cash was really to blame for Mbappe doing well at the end. Mbappe's success came through the middle. As a right back, it isn't exclusively Cash's job to deal with that. Poland's centre-forward, central midfielders and centre-halves all had the chance to stop his first goal and failed to do so.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dave P on December 05, 2022, 12:48:07 PM
Also, this is Mbappe.  Probably the best attacking player on the planet at the minute.  Not many right backs can even lay a glove on him but Cash did ok.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: dave shelley on December 05, 2022, 12:52:34 PM
Since when did Kyle Walker turn into the second coming of Paulo Maldini?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: astonvilla82 on December 05, 2022, 12:56:48 PM
Since when did Kyle Walker turn into the second coming of Paulo Maldini?
when he joined Manchester city
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Lastfootstamper on December 05, 2022, 01:50:32 PM
Since when did Kyle Walker turn into the second coming of Paulo Maldini?

Surely he'd be Tassotti if anybody?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: brontebilly on December 05, 2022, 09:58:00 PM
I'm not sure Cash was really to blame for Mbappe doing well at the end. Mbappe's success came through the middle. As a right back, it isn't exclusively Cash's job to deal with that. Poland's centre-forward, central midfielders and centre-halves all had the chance to stop his first goal and failed to do so.

Cash was nowhere for both goals though. For the third goal maybe he had pushed on but was a ridiculous goal to concede. Hoof down pitch from corner and Giroud given freedom of pitch to take it down and play it wide.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 06, 2022, 01:47:02 AM
He seems like a lovely lad, and he's a decent player for us, but if I was a Poland fan I'd be a bit miffed that he's been acting like a tourist rather than someone gutted to have been twatted at the World Cup. By all means take the shirts, but this all seems like overkill.

https://twitter.com/geglobo/status/1599838334595043332
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 06, 2022, 01:48:53 AM
If he'd played badly, sure. But he was one of their better players throughout the tournament. Even if getting the shirt of an Argentine legend puts him in some unpleasant company...
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: CT Villan on December 06, 2022, 01:52:33 AM
I suspect it's because it is all so new to him, he's like the proverbial kid in the candy store. I would imagine that if he's still in the national team in a year or two he'll act differently. I don't mind tbh, he's living his dream and me too vicariously.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on December 06, 2022, 07:41:40 AM
So he's got Messi's shirt, so what? I'm sure he's not the only one who has during the tournament.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on December 06, 2022, 11:27:33 AM
I'm pleased for him. He's done really well since he came to the Villa, let's hope under the new manager there are players who'll be excited holding up his shirt.

To be fair, those two shirts are pretty special too.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Bad English on December 06, 2022, 12:34:02 PM
Well done Matty. He did his best and also got two great players' shirts. Fair play!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 06, 2022, 01:15:23 PM
So he's got Messi's shirt, so what? I'm sure he's not the only one who has during the tournament.

Mentioned the other day, Messi has to give away 250 signed shirts a game.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 06, 2022, 02:42:43 PM
Matty is now hanging out with Ronaldinho. Living the dream.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 06, 2022, 02:47:10 PM
I'm not begrudging him having the shirts (I'm not begrudging him anything), I just think it wouldn't sit easily with me if I cared, which I don't, seeing him grinning with them so soon after being walloped by both opponents.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 06, 2022, 03:20:29 PM
I'm not begrudging him having the shirts (I'm not begrudging him anything), I just think it wouldn't sit easily with me if I cared, which I don't, seeing him grinning with them so soon after being walloped by both opponents.

Matty is always smiling, seems to be a very happy chappie, probably can't believe his luck. Good luck to him.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 06, 2022, 03:35:09 PM
I didn't think I had an inner Roy Keane. It turns out that I do.

I bet bronte agrees with me!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 06, 2022, 03:41:32 PM
He's busy scouring the internet to see if he can find any evidence of Leon Bailey scowling.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on December 06, 2022, 05:17:36 PM
Matty is now hanging out with Ronaldinho. Living the dream.

Why is Ronaldinho wearing a Michael Jordan themed dress and matching hairnet?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Small Rodent on December 06, 2022, 05:59:05 PM
Matty is now hanging out with Ronaldinho. Living the dream.

Why is Ronaldinho wearing a Michael Jordan themed dress and matching hairnet?

Let me see….because he’s a cvnt?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on December 07, 2022, 11:04:45 AM
I agree with Sexual. If it was another club's smiley full back doing this we'd be ripping the piss, calling him small-time/a competition winner etc.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Exeter 77 on December 17, 2022, 09:22:07 PM
I think he's just enjoying where he has found himself.
https://twitter.com/mattycash622/status/1604113469544054784?t=tmRt0v1_jDk8wnlzu58YxA&s=19
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on December 18, 2022, 02:10:13 AM
How can he do this but can't cross the fuckin' ball?!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: AV82EC on December 18, 2022, 09:24:07 AM
Maybe he’s the elusive 30 goal a season striker we’re looking for.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 18, 2022, 06:52:50 PM
The only player to stop Messi scoring. What a player.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: UK Redsox on December 19, 2022, 04:39:01 PM
Features in one of the Beeb's top photos of the World Cup

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/EF91/production/_127892316_1446717371_laurence_griffiths.jpg)

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: OCD on December 21, 2022, 11:09:37 AM
It's out of focus.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: markeeeebeeee2005 on December 21, 2022, 11:54:36 AM
Is it a shutter speed issue? No wonder the Government want to close the Beeb down with this quality of photography.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on December 21, 2022, 05:37:57 PM
It's the cover of Blur's eponymous album, 25 years on.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Bad English on December 21, 2022, 08:16:14 PM
I've seen that in the Musée d'Orsay in Paris. The Impressionist GOAT Claude Monet painted it. I think it is called St Germain Villa.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dogtanian on December 22, 2022, 08:25:35 AM
It's the cover of Blur's eponymous album, 25 years on.

And what an album that was!  ;D
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on January 02, 2023, 03:28:21 PM
Cash stated that Emery has already made tactical changes, which will undoubtedly bring new experiences and ideas to the table.
I'm not sure if Cash for one has the capacity to carry them out.

Why?
Football intelligence on the pitch
Not sure if Emery will have him. Think he isn't great off the pitch so will have to focus.
I just believe that if the required level of improvement is not achieved, a better footballer who can play the full back role Emery desires will emerge.

I'd actually like to see KKH involved in some capacity come January, he's always appeared to be a progressive attacking type who would be very welcome down the right side.
Hasn't been working out at Championship Huddersfield, which is disappointing all around, so  loans manager Jedinak will have a plan for him and maybe KKH will be back with Villa during the winter break/world cup and impress.

Cash is not making the starting line up. He's been kept out of the team, and I've previously stated that I don't think Emery will like him with reasoning.

Ashley Young performed admirably during the winter training and has earned the position of fullback by his displays in the matches versus Liverpool and Spurs.
Emery was not looking to bring Cash into the team at the expense of Young right away. And good reason.

In the big picture, right back area I can see us upgrading. As I previously stated, I do not believe Cash will suit Emery. Though there is opportunity to convince him otherwise.
As a sub I saw against Spurs he came on Emery didn't want to risk it and  he would not be deployed as a defender but a right midfilder. His role on the right side of midfield to counter the spurs sub and get us up the field.
He did, of course, do the basics and provide some strength in both defence and attack.
However, if he is to make the team, maybe he would be better suited to a more attacking right side midfield role.

Cash I think he's quite a basic traditional player and Emery is a bit more advanced in his coaching and methods and not sure how much he can improve. Maybe he will maybe he won't on that side of things 50/50 how I see that.
MC is not a possession-based player, so he will benefit from coaching.
 
He is currently competing for a full back position, but I wouldn't be surprised if another right back is added to the squad.
I would also like to see KKH given as much of a chance in time.
It's telling signs because Cash may offer some pace and athletics but he doesn't have the same composure or ability on the ball as Young.




Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on January 02, 2023, 03:32:04 PM
Or all the players who were at theworld cup are being eased back in to a group that trained without them for a month.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dante Lavelli on January 02, 2023, 03:32:59 PM
Hmmm not sure Footy.   At the moment i simply think emery is selecting the players he’s been coaching over the past month.  Once they’re all up to speed with his tactics and expectations then I think we can identify any favourites. 

BTW What do you think emery will not see in Cash?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on January 02, 2023, 03:34:27 PM
Hmmm not sure Footy.   At the moment i simply think emery is selecting the players he’s been coaching over the past month.  Once they’re all up to speed with his tactics and expectations then I think we can identify any favourites. 

BTW What do you think emery will not see in Cash?
Football intelligence on the pitch
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dante Lavelli on January 02, 2023, 03:36:49 PM
Hmmm not sure Footy.   At the moment i simply think emery is selecting the players he’s been coaching over the past month.  Once they’re all up to speed with his tactics and expectations then I think we can identify any favourites. 

BTW What do you think emery will not see in Cash?
Football intelligence on the pitch

Which might be why he wants a period coaching him before he’s first choice as, to an extent, that can be taught.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: tomd2103 on January 02, 2023, 03:40:03 PM
Hmmm not sure Footy.   At the moment i simply think emery is selecting the players he’s been coaching over the past month.  Once they’re all up to speed with his tactics and expectations then I think we can identify any favourites. 

BTW What do you think emery will not see in Cash?

Personally think that Ashley Young is being selected on merit at the moment.  Big plus is that he brings that experience and leadership we desperately lack at times.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Pat McMahon on January 02, 2023, 04:22:59 PM
Hmmm not sure Footy.   At the moment i simply think emery is selecting the players he’s been coaching over the past month.  Once they’re all up to speed with his tactics and expectations then I think we can identify any favourites. 

BTW What do you think emery will not see in Cash?

Personally think that Ashley Young is being selected on merit at the moment.  Big plus is that he brings that experience and leadership we desperately lack at times.

He is also always pleading our cause and constantly in the ref’s ear. He’s pretty much the only player who does this like a top player. Looking across the pitch at him yesterday and he really doesn’t switch off and is very good at slowing things down when others want to take quick free kicks, throw ins etc. He must eat up 5 minutes a game on his own.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on January 02, 2023, 04:36:53 PM
Hmmm not sure Footy.   At the moment i simply think emery is selecting the players he’s been coaching over the past month.  Once they’re all up to speed with his tactics and expectations then I think we can identify any favourites. 

BTW What do you think emery will not see in Cash?

Personally think that Ashley Young is being selected on merit at the moment.  Big plus is that he brings that experience and leadership we desperately lack at times.

True, but lets not forget that Cash started against Brighton and didn't lose the shirt or lack the 'footballing intelligence' to be in the team then, in between there's been a massive break where all but a handful of the squad got, effectively, a 2nd pre-season to work with the new manager and coaches. Are people honestly surprised that the few who weren't involved haven't been thrown straight back in to the team? As I said on another thread, I'd be amazed if this wasn't all planned out and agreed with the players before they even went to Qatar, does Emery not strike everyone else as the sort of guy who'd be meticulous in his planning and preperation, including how to handle this world cup?

All that said Young has earned the right in the last 2 games to keep the shirt, which is as it should be, there just doesn't need to be speculation about us wanting to sell Cash or Emery thinking he's thick, just like Olsen starting doesn't mean he's angry with Emi for enjoying winning the world cup, or Coutinho being on the bench doesn't mean Emery wants to sell him at a loss back to Brazil or that Coutinho is desperate to leave. I think some people need to stop watching soap operas and chill the fuck out for a while.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Paul.S on January 02, 2023, 04:40:42 PM
Watching Young use his experience is a joy.
Both his positioning, the way he guides others through a game and the way he stays in the ear of the ref is what we’ve missed for a while. For me, he’s been our best defender this season and for a 37 year old that’s some achievement.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on January 02, 2023, 04:44:24 PM
I'd like to see Cash start against Wolves. I think the dog botherers will try to park the bus, and I reckon Matty's galavanting up and down will help to unlock them.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 02, 2023, 05:00:58 PM
Cash is the long term RB at the club just as Emi is the long term keeper. Emi will play vs Wolves. Ash likely keeps his spot but it won’t be forever and I am sure Ash gets it. Creating these what if scenarios and conspiracies is hilarious.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 02, 2023, 05:29:17 PM
Cash is the long term RB at the club just as Emi is the long term keeper. Emi will play vs Wolves. Ash likely keeps his spot but it won’t be forever and I am sure Ash gets it. Creating these what if scenarios and conspiracies is hilarious. tedious.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Astnor on January 02, 2023, 05:46:15 PM
Yesterday we had some playing out from the back under very tight pressure and we did manage to do it. IMO Cash isnt the best to participate in that aspect of the game. Further FX Douglas is extremly good in using his body with control and the ball with it in tight situasions to the best for the team as we could see FX in his last movement and touch when he scored yesterday. If he is the best in the squad with body control and ball control Cash is more in the other side of the specter IMO and this makes me nervous when we are being attacked as IMO it does cost us and frustrates me when we attack as it IMO end the attacks more often than not. just my opinion, Cash is as likeable as anyone else and have a lot of strong capabilities FX being very athletic, running very fast forward in straight line, dosent get knocked of the ball and shoot very hard in a straight line.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 02, 2023, 06:23:37 PM
Cash is the long term RB at the club just as Emi is the long term keeper. Emi will play vs Wolves. Ash likely keeps his spot but it won’t be forever and I am sure Ash gets it. Creating these what if scenarios and conspiracies is hilarious. tedious.

Thank you VID and yes, precisely
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on January 02, 2023, 09:20:05 PM
Cash is the long term RB at the club just as Emi is the long term keeper. Emi will play vs Wolves. Ash likely keeps his spot but it won’t be forever and I am sure Ash gets it. Creating these what if scenarios and conspiracies is hilarious. tedious.

I think Cash might start. 3 games in a week, even for someone as fit as Young might be overdoing it a bit.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: tomd2103 on January 02, 2023, 10:13:47 PM
Hmmm not sure Footy.   At the moment i simply think emery is selecting the players he’s been coaching over the past month.  Once they’re all up to speed with his tactics and expectations then I think we can identify any favourites. 

BTW What do you think emery will not see in Cash?

Personally think that Ashley Young is being selected on merit at the moment.  Big plus is that he brings that experience and leadership we desperately lack at times.

True, but lets not forget that Cash started against Brighton and didn't lose the shirt or lack the 'footballing intelligence' to be in the team then, in between there's been a massive break where all but a handful of the squad got, effectively, a 2nd pre-season to work with the new manager and coaches. Are people honestly surprised that the few who weren't involved haven't been thrown straight back in to the team? As I said on another thread, I'd be amazed if this wasn't all planned out and agreed with the players before they even went to Qatar, does Emery not strike everyone else as the sort of guy who'd be meticulous in his planning and preperation, including how to handle this world cup?

All that said Young has earned the right in the last 2 games to keep the shirt, which is as it should be, there just doesn't need to be speculation about us wanting to sell Cash or Emery thinking he's thick, just like Olsen starting doesn't mean he's angry with Emi for enjoying winning the world cup, or Coutinho being on the bench doesn't mean Emery wants to sell him at a loss back to Brazil or that Coutinho is desperate to leave. I think some people need to stop watching soap operas and chill the fuck out for a while.

Agree with those points Paul.  Managing a squad not just the starting eleven is a massive part of a manager's job and is something that quite a few don't get right.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: astonvilla82 on January 02, 2023, 11:15:08 PM
Hmmm not sure Footy.   At the moment i simply think emery is selecting the players he’s been coaching over the past month.  Once they’re all up to speed with his tactics and expectations then I think we can identify any favourites. 

BTW What do you think emery will not see in Cash?

Personally think that Ashley Young is being selected on merit at the moment.  Big plus is that he brings that experience and leadership we desperately lack at times.

True, but lets not forget that Cash started against Brighton and didn't lose the shirt or lack the 'footballing intelligence' to be in the team then, in between there's been a massive break where all but a handful of the squad got, effectively, a 2nd pre-season to work with the new manager and coaches. Are people honestly surprised that the few who weren't involved haven't been thrown straight back in to the team? As I said on another thread, I'd be amazed if this wasn't all planned out and agreed with the players before they even went to Qatar, does Emery not strike everyone else as the sort of guy who'd be meticulous in his planning and preperation, including how to handle this world cup?

All that said Young has earned the right in the last 2 games to keep the shirt, which is as it should be, there just doesn't need to be speculation about us wanting to sell Cash or Emery thinking he's thick, just like Olsen starting doesn't mean he's angry with Emi for enjoying winning the world cup, or Coutinho being on the bench doesn't mean Emery wants to sell him at a loss back to Brazil or that Coutinho is desperate to leave. I think some people need to stop watching soap operas and chill the fuck out for a while.

Agree with those points Paul.  Managing a squad not just the starting eleven is a massive part of a manager's job and is something that quite a few don't get right.
just like a certain Ron Saunders?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: purpletrousers on January 02, 2023, 11:42:47 PM
Yesterday we had some playing out from the back under very tight pressure and we did manage to do it. IMO Cash isnt the best to participate in that aspect of the game. Further FX Douglas is extremly good in using his body with control and the ball with it in tight situasions to the best for the team as we could see FX in his last movement and touch when he scored yesterday. If he is the best in the squad with body control and ball control Cash is more in the other side of the specter IMO and this makes me nervous when we are being attacked as IMO it does cost us and frustrates me when we attack as it IMO end the attacks more often than not. just my opinion, Cash is as likeable as anyone else and have a lot of strong capabilities FX being very athletic, running very fast forward in straight line, dosent get knocked of the ball and shoot very hard in a straight line.
FX ?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Bad English on January 02, 2023, 11:45:55 PM
Fucking Zany.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ROBBO on January 03, 2023, 12:00:43 AM
I'm amazed at how quick Ash still is.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on January 03, 2023, 12:39:32 AM
Cash is the long term RB at the club just as Emi is the long term keeper. Emi will play vs Wolves. Ash likely keeps his spot but it won’t be forever and I am sure Ash gets it. Creating these what if scenarios and conspiracies is hilarious.

If anyone except FootVill had posted what he said, you wouldn't have reacted like that. He made a decent post with reasons, it's not like Cash is irreplaceable. He's a competent full-back but not without a fair few weaknesses.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 03, 2023, 01:43:02 AM
Cash is the long term RB at the club just as Emi is the long term keeper. Emi will play vs Wolves. Ash likely keeps his spot but it won’t be forever and I am sure Ash gets it. Creating these what if scenarios and conspiracies is hilarious.

If anyone except FootVill had posted what he said, you wouldn't have reacted like that. He made a decent post with reasons, it's not like Cash is irreplaceable. He's a competent full-back but not without a fair few weaknesses.

No, I fundamentally disagree with every word of this

“Cash is not making the starting line up. He's been kept out of the team, and I've previously stated that I don't think Emery will like him with reasoning”.

It wouldn’t have mattered who said it. That it happens to be him combined with the constant nonsense about Martinez makes it all the more tedious.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on January 05, 2023, 01:16:31 AM
Cash is the long term RB at the club just as Emi is the long term keeper. Emi will play vs Wolves. Ash likely keeps his spot but it won’t be forever and I am sure Ash gets it. Creating these what if scenarios and conspiracies is hilarious.
It's known as discussion. Cash demonstrated his inability and lack of football intelligence in his right midfield role starting the game against Wolves. Whereas I felt he was ok in that role against Spurs. Against Wolves in the first half he was one of the most advanced players at times, but he didn't create or threaten.

Emery was hesitant to start him in defence.
Cash then again was used as a right-sided midfielder, as I suspected and suggested. Hardly nonsense or tedious to talk about his role and positioning.

It didn't work in that position, so he moved to fullback, where he was still settling in as was his first full game back.
Okay, we'll see how he does with Emery's system, which I believe is fair stance, but I'm not convinced Emery is convinced by him.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Goldie.7 on January 05, 2023, 01:51:04 AM
A terrible, modern full-back. I pissed myself with laughter when I saw these 2022/3 stats a few days ago which I've since updated.

32 year old Trippier Crosses (168)
25 year old Cash Crosses (39)

Over 4x as many is just ridiculous but not surprising because all Cash does is pass backwards. Emery would be smart to replace him first.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 05, 2023, 03:42:19 AM
He is not a terrible player but another who is inconsistent and has some tendencies that are concerning.
Often dives in giving silly fouls, gets caught out of position and poor crossing / decision making in attack.
Not sure what the managers intention is but needs to improve or be upgraded.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ger Regan on January 05, 2023, 10:34:32 AM
I'm not sold on him either. Willing to see how emery can improve him, but his crossing is appalling.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on January 05, 2023, 11:55:42 AM
A terrible, modern full-back. I pissed myself with laughter when I saw these 2022/3 stats a few days ago which I've since updated.

32 year old Trippier Crosses (168)
25 year old Cash Crosses (39)

Over 4x as many is just ridiculous but not surprising because all Cash does is pass backwards. Emery would be smart to replace him first.

Yet, many on here are fans. I don't geddit. He's not good enough if our aspirations are Europe.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on January 05, 2023, 12:06:54 PM
I thought he was really good second half. Not very good first half, but then nor was anybody else. It's interesting (although obviously not scientific) that he got the third highest score on both the BBC (voted by fans) and Whoscored (presumably based on various algorithms). His tracking back was excellent, as was his passing with 90% pass completion. I agree he's not much of a crosser, but that's not his primary focus, and in a 4-4-2 it should be the person in front of him getting the ball in to dangerous areas, something that Bailey mainly fails to do. He's not perfect, but there are a few players ahead of him to be replaced and he does his job much better than the likes of Buendia or Bailey.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 05, 2023, 12:32:40 PM
It was also his first full game back being asked to play a position that he’s played before in the Championship, but not with us. At least not starting there. So he looked a bit confused and something that Emery didn’t get right. I doubt he does that anyway if McGinn was fit or JJ/Dendoncker fitter. I think Matty is at the right age to keep developing under a good coach.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on January 08, 2023, 07:04:02 PM
Awful and lethargic today for most part didn't have the professionalism andbof course gets injured.
Jist adds to the woe of the loss to Stevenage.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: saint13 on January 08, 2023, 07:20:27 PM
I think he is one of the most overrated players I have seen in a long time. Rash at the back and no end product more often than not. We should try and ship him out if we can get our money back on him whilst the hype of the World Cup is in full swing.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pablo_picasso on January 08, 2023, 07:33:12 PM
Its a shame that all of his positive play going forward is absolutely ruined by a lack of consistent end product. Hes a good player, but I dint think he is the long term option for our RB/RWB slot.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on January 08, 2023, 07:34:24 PM
Its a shame that all of his positive play going forward is absolutely ruined by a lack of consistent end product. Hes a good player, but I dint think he is the long term option for our RB/RWB slot.
Thats very fair assessment.
I see him not suited to the possession play and calmness on the ball Emery wants.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Steve67 on January 08, 2023, 07:37:08 PM
I wonder if Atletico might still want him?  Hope for a player swap. 
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ger Regan on January 08, 2023, 07:38:54 PM
I'd be looking for an upgrade in the summer.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on January 08, 2023, 07:39:50 PM
And people were nonsensical when saying Trippier was past it and not needed here when we tried to sign him and he went to Newcastle.
Would have been perfect.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on January 08, 2023, 07:42:15 PM
"Cashy" is a nice lad and looks busy and works hard but seems to get an easy ride for these attributes. He's really limited. The player of the season last year was the funniest awarding of it since Stephen Ireland won.

Like Digne on the left, not good enough for a top-half PL side.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 08, 2023, 11:03:22 PM
Was crap today.
Not good enough.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: UK Redsox on January 11, 2023, 02:01:29 PM
Cash looked like he was carrying an injury from the start.
He wasn't making anywhere near the type of runs he's capable of.

Seemed like Emery wanted to give Ashley a rest and the only alternative was a tentative Cash
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Mister E on January 11, 2023, 07:01:23 PM
And people were nonsensical when saying Trippier was past it and not needed here when we tried to sign him and he went to Newcastle.
Would have been perfect.
Really? Were we in for Trippier?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 11, 2023, 07:10:54 PM
And people were nonsensical when saying Trippier was past it and not needed here when we tried to sign him and he went to Newcastle.
Would have been perfect.
Really? Were we in for Trippier?

There was no truth in it. It was just a rumour. Unless you believe illustrious and reputable sites like Sports Mole
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: robleflaneur on January 11, 2023, 08:22:38 PM
"Cashy" is a nice lad and looks busy and works hard but seems to get an easy ride for these attributes. He's really limited. The player of the season last year was the funniest awarding of it since Stephen Ireland won.

Like Digne on the left, not good enough for a top-half PL side.
To all the Cash doubters.From these  top 10 PL clubs,would you prefer Roerslev (Brentford),Tete (Fulham),Doherty or Royal (Spurs)Dalot (Man U).Some play wing back.How many wide players have run riot v Cash ?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on January 12, 2023, 06:46:34 PM
"Cashy" is a nice lad and looks busy and works hard but seems to get an easy ride for these attributes. He's really limited. The player of the season last year was the funniest awarding of it since Stephen Ireland won.

Like Digne on the left, not good enough for a top-half PL side.
To all the Cash doubters.From these  top 10 PL clubs,would you prefer Roerslev (Brentford),Tete (Fulham),Doherty or Royal (Spurs)Dalot (Man U).Some play wing back.How many wide players have run riot v Cash ?
How many would perform better than Cash against Stevenage?
It's about attitude as well.
I hope we get someone like Héctor Bellerín in as well perhaps in the summer.
Need choices in every position.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on February 03, 2023, 09:39:52 AM
New interview for Football Focus. The size of them thighs!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/64504972
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on February 03, 2023, 09:43:05 AM
"Cashy" is a nice lad and looks busy and works hard but seems to get an easy ride for these attributes. He's really limited. The player of the season last year was the funniest awarding of it since Stephen Ireland won.

Like Digne on the left, not good enough for a top-half PL side.
To all the Cash doubters.From these  top 10 PL clubs,would you prefer Roerslev (Brentford),Tete (Fulham),Doherty or Royal (Spurs)Dalot (Man U).Some play wing back.How many wide players have run riot v Cash ?
How many would perform better than Cash against Stevenage?
It's about attitude as well.
I hope we get someone like Héctor Bellerín in as well perhaps in the summer.
Need choices in every position.

Bellerin's just signed permanently for Sporting CP in Portugal.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 03, 2023, 09:44:14 AM
Metty Cesh! Metty Cesh!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 04, 2023, 04:50:22 PM
Saw an specific example of Matty Cash inability to carry out instructions of Emery as he failed to push up with the high line rest of defence keeping Leicester players onside.
He really is clueless and doesnt have the focus or football IQ.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on February 04, 2023, 04:54:42 PM
Saw an specific example of Matty Cash inability to carry out instructions of Emery as he failed to push up with the high line rest of defence keeping Leicester players onside.
He really is clueless and doesnt have the focus or football IQ.

We’d conceded 3 pathetic goals before he came on.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Bad English on February 04, 2023, 04:55:03 PM
I saw 4 specific examples of our players not following instructions, namely letting Leicester score.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: brontebilly on February 04, 2023, 04:58:28 PM
Didn't really impress to be fair. Far too soft letting Barnes turn him for the ball for the fourth goal. Body language not great either I thought when he came on, expected him to be bursting a gut to impress.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Astnor on February 04, 2023, 05:02:52 PM
Saw an specific example of Matty Cash inability to carry out instructions of Emery as he failed to push up with the high line rest of defence keeping Leicester players onside.
He really is clueless and doesnt have the focus or football IQ.
I do agree with you Footy-Vill; even more he cant often time a tackle or header, opponents go around him as he seems not to understand how close he should mark his man, and seems to hide a bit so he dont get the ball IMO, he can run though and with the ball as long as opponents dosent get to close but cant deliver most of the time, and I dont understand why other dosent see the same as us :)
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Aldridge Villa on February 04, 2023, 08:19:44 PM
Not the Matty Cash of old is he. Not sure what the hell is going on here.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Astnor on February 05, 2023, 08:34:12 AM
Not the Matty Cash of old is he. Not sure what the hell is going on here.
Good point, he was good under Smith and better than now under Gerrard might be something with the system and approach of Emery that might not suit him
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PeterWithe on February 05, 2023, 09:34:16 AM
When Unai came in someone posted a tactical analysis of how he usually liked to play, that was with one full back pushing on and the other staying back, it looked clear that Moreno was playing as the attacking one and Cash was staying back, which isn’t his usual game. I can see him moving on to be honest.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on February 05, 2023, 10:03:31 AM
He came on yesterday when we were already three goals down and chasing the game. I assume that Emery had told them just to go for it, which is going to leave gaps and players exposed at times. Cash was caught out higher up the pitch as a result, but even then if Moreno hadn't done a complete Engels v Spurs in attempting to deal with a simple ball, that goal doesn't get scored.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Percy McCarthy on February 05, 2023, 10:11:27 AM
He came on yesterday when we were already three goals down and chasing the game. I assume that Emery had told them just to go for it, which is going to leave gaps and players exposed at times. Cash was caught out higher up the pitch as a result, but even then if Moreno hadn't done a complete Engels v Spurs in attempting to deal with a simple ball, that goal doesn't get scored.

Three goals down?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: RamboandBruno on February 05, 2023, 10:18:39 AM
He came on yesterday when we were already three goals down and chasing the game. I assume that Emery had told them just to go for it, which is going to leave gaps and players exposed at times. Cash was caught out higher up the pitch as a result, but even then if Moreno hadn't done a complete Engels v Spurs in attempting to deal with a simple ball, that goal doesn't get scored.

Looked back at the highlights today and although Moreno did make a hash of it, the ball did take a deflection which took it away from him slightly, it wasn’t Engels versus Spurs levels. Its a shame as i thought he had a really good half, especially going forwards. I don’t see Digne starting against Man City.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Mister E on February 05, 2023, 12:05:21 PM
When Unai came in someone posted a tactical analysis of how he usually liked to play, that was with one full back pushing on and the other staying back, it looked clear that Moreno was playing as the attacking one and Cash was staying back, which isn’t his usual game. I can see him moving on to be honest.
Whereas I thought A Young played that role really well.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on February 05, 2023, 06:41:32 PM
Not the Matty Cash of old is he. Not sure what the hell is going on here.
Good point, he was good under Smith and better than now under Gerrard might be something with the system and approach of Emery that might not suit him

He's a bottom-half standard full back. Fine for where we are, not good enough for where we want to go.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: wittonwarrior on February 05, 2023, 07:09:17 PM
As a defender nowhere near good enough, but his overall game suggests like Gareth Bale did, that he could and should in his case move up further in the field.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: brontebilly on February 05, 2023, 08:25:26 PM
As a defender nowhere near good enough, but his overall game suggests like Gareth Bale did, that he could and should in his case move up further in the field.
He moved back to full back from a bang average second division winger.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 05, 2023, 08:52:31 PM
As a defender nowhere near good enough, but his overall game suggests like Gareth Bale did, that he could and should in his case move up further in the field.

Was a disaster playing in that position v Wolves.

Think that game has pretty much meant he'll be moved on in the summer given his profile dosen't fit what UE requires at RB.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: brontebilly on February 05, 2023, 10:09:31 PM
Not that he deserves it on current form but I'd nearly start him v Man City against Grealish and swap Young over to the left. Hold Moreno in reserve.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on February 05, 2023, 10:24:11 PM
He came on yesterday when we were already three goals down and chasing the game. I assume that Emery had told them just to go for it, which is going to leave gaps and players exposed at times. Cash was caught out higher up the pitch as a result, but even then if Moreno hadn't done a complete Engels v Spurs in attempting to deal with a simple ball, that goal doesn't get scored.

Three goals down?

Sorry, I meant three goals conceded, not a deficit of three.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Percy McCarthy on February 09, 2023, 03:36:57 PM
He came on yesterday when we were already three goals down and chasing the game. I assume that Emery had told them just to go for it, which is going to leave gaps and players exposed at times. Cash was caught out higher up the pitch as a result, but even then if Moreno hadn't done a complete Engels v Spurs in attempting to deal with a simple ball, that goal doesn't get scored.

Three goals down?

Sorry, I meant three goals conceded, not a deficit of three.

You know when you post something and feel like a pedantic twat afterwards? That’s me, now.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on February 09, 2023, 03:38:08 PM
You know when you post something and feel like a pedantic twat afterwards? That’s me, now.

Most of the time mate! Don't worry about it in any case though.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 18, 2023, 12:09:18 PM
Cash back.
Another to scrutineer today due to him returning to starting line up

Particularly looking on positional play , passing/possession and defending discipline
Hopefully he's been studying hard in Emerys class and ready to take the test today.


Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Axl Rose on February 18, 2023, 12:26:18 PM
Cash back.
Another to scrutineer today due to him returning to starting line up

Particularly looking on positional play , passing/possession and defending discipline
Hopefully he's been studying hard in Emerys class and ready to take the test today.




I'm sure he'll do you proud, El footstro!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 18, 2023, 12:40:05 PM
Brilliant by Cashy! Won ball. Carried it on and played delightful pass for the goal by Watkins
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 18, 2023, 12:45:10 PM
Cash back.
Another to scrutineer today due to him returning to starting line up

Particularly looking on positional play , passing/possession and defending discipline
Hopefully he's been studying hard in Emerys class and ready to take the test today.




I'm sure he'll do you proud, El footstro!
Just worried on his defending space as three times Arsenal have got in and hes up against Trossard.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on February 20, 2023, 10:51:15 AM
Dig at the crowd?
https://twitter.com/ViaplayFotball/status/1626963495446016002?t=cuPDa5l7iGgKYJDXAa0nKQ&s=19
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on February 20, 2023, 10:56:56 AM
Didn't really get that vibe - just the usual cliché about the players having to encourage the home support and vice versa.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brend'Watkins on February 20, 2023, 11:00:53 AM
12.30 kick offs don't make for a good atmosphere. It wasn't great on Saturday but wasn't bad either.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: VILLA MOLE on February 20, 2023, 11:06:58 AM
I wasn't there Saturday but I Imagine  the atmosphere was quite jittery mainly because we are unable to control possession for long periods and our build up from the back can be scary.

Hopefully in time we can improve this 
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 20, 2023, 11:15:30 AM
My scouting has led me to Jhilmar Lora of Sporting Cristal described as the 'next' Nolberto Solano, a 22-year-old right-back  already a regular for the Peruvian national side.

I also like Sergi Roberto of Barca who is out of contract in the summer.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on February 20, 2023, 11:19:06 AM
The atmosphere was fine on Saturday - in the Holte at least. A mate of mine who usually sits in the Trinity joined us in the Upper Holte for a change and he was impressed.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Bully2345 on February 20, 2023, 11:29:47 AM
My scouting has led me to Jhilmar Lora of Sporting Cristal described as the 'next' Nolberto Solano, a 22-year-old right-back  already a regular for the Peruvian national side.

I also like Sergi Roberto of Barca who is out of contract in the summer.

I'll say it. Nolberto Solano wasn't a right back.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 20, 2023, 12:12:04 PM
My scouting has led me to Jhilmar Lora of Sporting Cristal described as the 'next' Nolberto Solano, a 22-year-old right-back  already a regular for the Peruvian national side.

I also like Sergi Roberto of Barca who is out of contract in the summer.

I'll say it. Nolberto Solano wasn't a right back.
These 3 right backs Emery has coached and signed them before all play for better international teams than Cash.
Youssouf Sabaly Senegalese  (Real Betis)
Thomas Meunier Belgian (Dortmund)
Juan Foyth Argentinan (Villareal) played in Prem
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on February 20, 2023, 12:34:51 PM
So?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 20, 2023, 01:14:45 PM
So?
So?
Well when Moreno or Digne advance, Foyth in particular would be a good addition to a back three that forms. Something Young does but Cash isn't as strong to hold back.
The right back needs to keep good shape as Digne and Moreno marauder forward. According to how I see it tactically, this explains why Young has been frequently preferred ever since working on things during the world cup break. The defender first and foremost is concerned with positioning and reading the play.  .
In that capacity, Young is more disciplined than Cash in able to hang back . Emery system sees Cash vulnerability occur more with a concern if he loses a ball upfield and then failing in defensive transitions. Seems Emery doesn't want that risk.

We all saw Cashy's strength in winning the ball from Zinchenko and quickly and accurately passing the ball to Watkins this was a great assist for the goal. That's a good quality and he shows good ability there but its the overall ability as a right back for Unai Emery strategy that could and does find him wanting.

We also all saw his inability to read the danger for the fourth goal and prevent it from happening. As a result, when the ball was turned over from the corner in transition, Cashy was unable to prevent the opposition from scoring.

It all comes down to balance in playing as a right back for Emery. Villa would ideally have a combination of Young and Cash in one player.
I think if he can understand how his role is both defensively and in and out of possession then hope for Cash but it's about developing his understanding in playing that role and ability in possession.

I have him as an ongoing concern and highlighted other international right backs Emery has worked with that would be able to perfom to a more efficient ability or offer competition in the squad in that position.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: aj2k77 on February 20, 2023, 03:00:09 PM
Cash can't cross the road.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clark W Griswold on February 20, 2023, 03:25:04 PM
My scouting has led me to Jhilmar Lora of Sporting Cristal described as the 'next' Nolberto Solano.

Fair play, you do get about a bit. Shows dedication. Did you try the Guinea Pig whilst out there?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on February 20, 2023, 04:36:34 PM
My scouting has led me to Jhilmar Lora of Sporting Cristal described as the 'next' Nolberto Solano, a 22-year-old right-back  already a regular for the Peruvian national side.


I don't we'd get a work permit for a player like him. The Peruvian league is too lowly ranked, and the national team is outside of the top 20, and he hasn't played that many games for either his club or country. Duran was different because he played regularly for a club in a higher ranked league and also Colombia are top 20 in the FIFA rankings.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 20, 2023, 05:57:12 PM
My scouting has led me to Jhilmar Lora of Sporting Cristal described as the 'next' Nolberto Solano, a 22-year-old right-back  already a regular for the Peruvian national side.


I don't we'd get a work permit for a player like him. The Peruvian league is too lowly ranked, and the national team is outside of the top 20, and he hasn't played that many games for either his club or country. Duran was different because he played regularly for a club in a higher ranked league and also Colombia are top 20 in the FIFA rankings.
I do. Played Copa America quarter finals. Has played World Cup qualifying.
I'm not going to suggest players that we can't get as actually it's actually easier for South American players to get work permits these days. Carlos Lora played equivalent of European competition in Chamipons league and Europa League that being Copa Libertadores and Copa Sudamerica.
Can be signed as an exceptional talent. If we don't Brighton probably will!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on February 20, 2023, 06:01:27 PM
Be careful mentioning Nobby Solano. Fergal, erstwhile H&Ver, named his pet hamster after the Peruvian and was most upset when Solano buggered-off back to Newcastle one deadline day.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Smirker on February 20, 2023, 06:09:08 PM
Cash back.
Another to scrutineer today due to him returning to starting line up

Particularly looking on positional play , passing/possession and defending discipline
Hopefully he's been studying hard in Emerys class and ready to take the test today.




I'm sure he'll do you proud, El footstro!

Will respond to your PM soon mate, all good and hope you are well too  8)
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on February 20, 2023, 07:47:27 PM
My scouting has led me to Jhilmar Lora of Sporting Cristal described as the 'next' Nolberto Solano.

Fair play, you do get about a bit. Shows dedication. Did you try the Guinea Pig whilst out there?

The question is can we somehow unearth the Ecuadorian Jay Spearing
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on February 20, 2023, 10:40:33 PM
Be careful mentioning Nobby Solano. Fergal, erstwhile H&Ver, named his pet hamster after the Peruvian and was most upset when Solano buggered-off back to Newcastle one deadline day.

And then he probably buggered the poor hamster.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 20, 2023, 10:42:09 PM
Be careful mentioning Nobby Solano. Fergal, erstwhile H&Ver, named his pet hamster after the Peruvian and was most upset when Solano buggered-off back to Newcastle one deadline day.

And then he probably buggered the poor hamster.

I bet that was one nervous fucking hamster.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on February 21, 2023, 08:06:54 AM
I do. Played Copa America quarter finals. Has played World Cup qualifying.
I'm not going to suggest players that we can't get as actually it's actually easier for South American players to get work permits these days. Carlos Lora played equivalent of European competition in Chamipons league and Europa League that being Copa Libertadores and Copa Sudamerica.
Can be signed as an exceptional talent. If we don't Brighton probably will!


You get points for various factors, and he's nowhere near. That's a fact, sorry.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 21, 2023, 09:51:05 AM
I do. Played Copa America quarter finals. Has played World Cup qualifying.
I'm not going to suggest players that we can't get as actually it's actually easier for South American players to get work permits these days. Carlos Lora played equivalent of European competition in Chamipons league and Europa League that being Copa Libertadores and Copa Sudamerica.
Can be signed as an exceptional talent. If we don't Brighton probably will!


You get points for various factors, and he's nowhere near. That's a fact, sorry.
Well oh well if you're sure. So I had hope he get through on exceptional talent rule taking into consideration the level of cup competition and internationals he's played. As number of games itself isn't enough. I wonder if Villa will get in the business of signing South Americans then loaning them out getting them football minutes and experience.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 21, 2023, 07:15:38 PM
As a defender nowhere near good enough, but his overall game suggests like Gareth Bale did, that he could and should in his case move up further in the field.
He moved back to full back from a bang average second division winger.
Cash can't cross the road.
Indeed like Bale on the golf field!
Cash plays of a three handicap. Says he's known in football for his golf.
He's so good the WhatsApp AVFC golfers group don't invite no more.
Needs to spend more time now on his football.

And before Lee B says I'm making things up
https://www.tiktok.com/@sportbible/video/7199732239809252613


Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 21, 2023, 07:18:26 PM
Cash is a nice lad but he's a perfect example of one of those group of players who can't technically play the way Emery wants.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: algy on February 21, 2023, 07:27:43 PM
I do. Played Copa America quarter finals. Has played World Cup qualifying.
I'm not going to suggest players that we can't get as actually it's actually easier for South American players to get work permits these days. Carlos Lora played equivalent of European competition in Chamipons league and Europa League that being Copa Libertadores and Copa Sudamerica.
Can be signed as an exceptional talent. If we don't Brighton probably will!


You get points for various factors, and he's nowhere near. That's a fact, sorry.
Well oh well if you're sure. So I had hope he get through on exceptional talent rule taking into consideration the level of cup competition and internationals he's played. As number of games itself isn't enough. I wonder if Villa will get in the business of signing South Americans then loaning them out getting them football minutes and experience.
I'd suspect "exceptional talent" would need more than a promising youngster, more like a hypothetical situation whereby an established top player hasn't gained enough points because they've had a long term injury (from which they've recovered). Something like Christian Eriksen post-heart attack type thing, where there's no question as to his ability.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 04, 2023, 04:33:06 PM
Excellent interaction with Cash and playing in by McGinn
Good to see they have followed Emery's instructions by running up the field and  Cashy was sublime putting the ball in for what should have been a tap-in for Watkins but ended up being an own goal.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: brontebilly on March 04, 2023, 05:07:13 PM
His best display for us for a very long time.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 05, 2023, 06:47:13 PM
Matty Cash
"I’ve had to wait my time a little bit to get forward, Me and the manager have worked closely on that in terms of having my time when to go and when not to go.
And here we thought there were spaces on the sides for both sides, that’s what the manager spoke about on Friday. So, he’s a tactical genius.”
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on March 05, 2023, 08:43:42 PM
Matty Cash
"I’ve had to wait my time a little bit to get forward, Me and the manager have worked closely on that in terms of having my time when to go and when not to go.
And here we thought there were spaces on the sides for both sides, that’s what the manager spoke about on Friday. So, he’s a tactical genius.”

I wonder which poster suggested Cash might be first out the Emery door?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 05, 2023, 08:44:59 PM
Matty Cash
"I’ve had to wait my time a little bit to get forward, Me and the manager have worked closely on that in terms of having my time when to go and when not to go.
And here we thought there were spaces on the sides for both sides, that’s what the manager spoke about on Friday. So, he’s a tactical genius.”

I wonder which poster suggested Cash might be first out the Emery door?

On account of him being ‘not a good person’ I recall.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: N'ZMAV on March 05, 2023, 08:45:40 PM
GregNash?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: KevinGage on March 05, 2023, 08:47:23 PM
Toxteth O'Grady.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 05, 2023, 08:51:01 PM
Withington Red?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on March 05, 2023, 09:18:21 PM
Matty Cash
"I’ve had to wait my time a little bit to get forward, Me and the manager have worked closely on that in terms of having my time when to go and when not to go.
And here we thought there were spaces on the sides for both sides, that’s what the manager spoke about on Friday. So, he’s a tactical genius.”

I wonder which poster suggested Cash might be first out the Emery door?

On account of him being ‘not a good person’ I recall.

and having a lack of football intelligence if I remember correctly, I think the same has been aimed at McGinn in the past as well.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 05, 2023, 11:02:15 PM
Matty Cash
"I’ve had to wait my time a little bit to get forward, Me and the manager have worked closely on that in terms of having my time when to go and when not to go.
And here we thought there were spaces on the sides for both sides, that’s what the manager spoke about on Friday. So, he’s a tactical genius.”

I wonder which poster suggested Cash might be first out the Emery door?

On account of him being ‘not a good person’ I recall.

and having a lack of football intelligence if I remember correctly, I think the same has been aimed at McGinn in the past as well.
Gregg Evans telling us all the latest:

Matty Cash has explained the methods that are helping him succeed under Unai Emery but insists he still remains fearful of losing his place.

“It’s never mine” was the Aston Villa defender’s reply after a 1-0 victory over Crystal Palace, when asked whether his form has helped him secure the right-back starting berth again after a period out of the team.

Cash also describes the time after the World Cup where he found himself briefly on the sidelines as “weird”.

“People were saying that I had been dropped because I wasn’t playing well, but I hadn’t really played!” he says.

“I had a strong World Cup (with Poland), came back, and people were saying I’m not playing because I didn’t play great. I was like, ‘No’.

“Ash (Ashley Young) was playing well, we were winning games. I just had to be patient.”

Cash came back into the line-up in the 4-2 defeat by Arsenal and has started the last three games. Before that, he was a substitute for five of the previous six Premier League matches, the first time he was out of the team for an extended period since signing in September 2020.

“It’s obviously difficult (when you don’t play),” Cash added.

“Every day I just try to get better. If the manager puts me on or if I start, I will do my best and at the moment it is going alright.”

Cash has assisted a goal in his last two home games, prompting Joachim Andersen to turn into his own net on Saturday, and while he’s not shy to admit he enjoys the attacking side of the game, he knows that under Emery he has to pick the moments he goes forward carefully.

“This manager is so tactically good that he tells me when I can go and when not to go,” Cash adds.

“On Saturday I chose the right time to go, I got fed in and we scored from it. That’s exactly what he is on about. He shows he’s a tactical master.

“I get the information in the week so I have to choose my times when to go and I think I’m doing it well.

“I want to keep getting into those positions and hopefully give Ollie Watkins some tap-ins in the times ahead.”

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on March 05, 2023, 11:18:49 PM
Gregg Evans telling us all the latest:

Matty Cash has explained the methods that are helping him succeed under Unai Emery but insists he still remains fearful of losing his place.

“It’s never mine” was the Aston Villa defender’s reply after a 1-0 victory over Crystal Palace, when asked whether his form has helped him secure the right-back starting berth again after a period out of the team.

Cash also describes the time after the World Cup where he found himself briefly on the sidelines as “weird”.

“People were saying that I had been dropped because I wasn’t playing well, but I hadn’t really played!” he says.

“I had a strong World Cup (with Poland), came back, and people were saying I’m not playing because I didn’t play great. I was like, ‘No’.

“Ash (Ashley Young) was playing well, we were winning games. I just had to be patient.”


Cash came back into the line-up in the 4-2 defeat by Arsenal and has started the last three games. Before that, he was a substitute for five of the previous six Premier League matches, the first time he was out of the team for an extended period since signing in September 2020.

“It’s obviously difficult (when you don’t play),” Cash added.

“Every day I just try to get better. If the manager puts me on or if I start, I will do my best and at the moment it is going alright.”

Cash has assisted a goal in his last two home games, prompting Joachim Andersen to turn into his own net on Saturday, and while he’s not shy to admit he enjoys the attacking side of the game, he knows that under Emery he has to pick the moments he goes forward carefully.

“This manager is so tactically good that he tells me when I can go and when not to go,” Cash adds.

“On Saturday I chose the right time to go, I got fed in and we scored from it. That’s exactly what he is on about. He shows he’s a tactical master.

“I get the information in the week so I have to choose my times when to go and I think I’m doing it well.

“I want to keep getting into those positions and hopefully give Ollie Watkins some tap-ins in the times ahead.”


The bold bit, you were one of those people (except you also came out with the 'lack of football intelligence' bullshit as well), I posted a few times that he wasn't playing because of Young doing well rather than anything Cash was or wasn't doing and you wouldn't accept it. Will you admit you were wrong now Cash himself has given the exact same explanation?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on March 05, 2023, 11:34:59 PM
Two assists don't make a summer etc. Rather than being told by his manager when to go forward and not, hopefully he'll learn by himself soon enough. It's an area that we can still improve on and I'd expect a RB to be signed in the summer, especially if Young isn't given a new deal.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 06, 2023, 01:30:25 PM
Gregg Evans telling us all the latest:

Matty Cash has explained the methods that are helping him succeed under Unai Emery but insists he still remains fearful of losing his place.

“It’s never mine” was the Aston Villa defender’s reply after a 1-0 victory over Crystal Palace, when asked whether his form has helped him secure the right-back starting berth again after a period out of the team.

Cash also describes the time after the World Cup where he found himself briefly on the sidelines as “weird”.

“People were saying that I had been dropped because I wasn’t playing well, but I hadn’t really played!” he says.

“I had a strong World Cup (with Poland), came back, and people were saying I’m not playing because I didn’t play great. I was like, ‘No’.

“Ash (Ashley Young) was playing well, we were winning games. I just had to be patient.”


Cash came back into the line-up in the 4-2 defeat by Arsenal and has started the last three games. Before that, he was a substitute for five of the previous six Premier League matches, the first time he was out of the team for an extended period since signing in September 2020.

“It’s obviously difficult (when you don’t play),” Cash added.

“Every day I just try to get better. If the manager puts me on or if I start, I will do my best and at the moment it is going alright.”

Cash has assisted a goal in his last two home games, prompting Joachim Andersen to turn into his own net on Saturday, and while he’s not shy to admit he enjoys the attacking side of the game, he knows that under Emery he has to pick the moments he goes forward carefully.

“This manager is so tactically good that he tells me when I can go and when not to go,” Cash adds.

“On Saturday I chose the right time to go, I got fed in and we scored from it. That’s exactly what he is on about. He shows he’s a tactical master.

“I get the information in the week so I have to choose my times when to go and I think I’m doing it well.

“I want to keep getting into those positions and hopefully give Ollie Watkins some tap-ins in the times ahead.”


The bold bit, you were one of those people (except you also came out with the 'lack of football intelligence' bullshit as well), I posted a few times that he wasn't playing because of Young doing well rather than anything Cash was or wasn't doing and you wouldn't accept it. Will you admit you were wrong now Cash himself has given the exact same explanation?
More differing opinion than wrong. 
Cash was probably not looking to admit he's taking his time adapting and was using Ash Young form as an excuse. He is, indeed, terrified of losing his position. I can't admit anything wrong on my part because Cash will never openly admit to struggling with instruction.
To me I'm not convinced he's Emery man long term.
I do admit he performed admirably in his last two matches and have been there to give him due credit.
Anything else, I believe I, you, and Matty will have to agree to disagree on.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on March 06, 2023, 01:59:00 PM
I could literally have written that reply for you, I'm just surprised you can reach the keyboard from the pedestal you put yourself on.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on March 06, 2023, 02:01:46 PM
Gregg Evans telling us all the latest:

Matty Cash has explained the methods that are helping him succeed under Unai Emery but insists he still remains fearful of losing his place.

“It’s never mine” was the Aston Villa defender’s reply after a 1-0 victory over Crystal Palace, when asked whether his form has helped him secure the right-back starting berth again after a period out of the team.

Cash also describes the time after the World Cup where he found himself briefly on the sidelines as “weird”.

“People were saying that I had been dropped because I wasn’t playing well, but I hadn’t really played!” he says.

“I had a strong World Cup (with Poland), came back, and people were saying I’m not playing because I didn’t play great. I was like, ‘No’.

“Ash (Ashley Young) was playing well, we were winning games. I just had to be patient.”


Cash came back into the line-up in the 4-2 defeat by Arsenal and has started the last three games. Before that, he was a substitute for five of the previous six Premier League matches, the first time he was out of the team for an extended period since signing in September 2020.

“It’s obviously difficult (when you don’t play),” Cash added.

“Every day I just try to get better. If the manager puts me on or if I start, I will do my best and at the moment it is going alright.”

Cash has assisted a goal in his last two home games, prompting Joachim Andersen to turn into his own net on Saturday, and while he’s not shy to admit he enjoys the attacking side of the game, he knows that under Emery he has to pick the moments he goes forward carefully.

“This manager is so tactically good that he tells me when I can go and when not to go,” Cash adds.

“On Saturday I chose the right time to go, I got fed in and we scored from it. That’s exactly what he is on about. He shows he’s a tactical master.

“I get the information in the week so I have to choose my times when to go and I think I’m doing it well.

“I want to keep getting into those positions and hopefully give Ollie Watkins some tap-ins in the times ahead.”


The bold bit, you were one of those people (except you also came out with the 'lack of football intelligence' bullshit as well), I posted a few times that he wasn't playing because of Young doing well rather than anything Cash was or wasn't doing and you wouldn't accept it. Will you admit you were wrong now Cash himself has given the exact same explanation?
More differing opinion than wrong. 
Cash was probably not looking to admit he's taking his time adapting and was using Ash Young form as an excuse. He is, indeed, terrified of losing his position. I can't admit anything wrong on my part because Cash will never openly admit to struggling with instruction.
To me I'm not convinced he's Emery man long term.
I do admit he performed admirably in his last two matches and have been there to give him due credit.
Anything else, I believe I, you, and Matty will have to agree to disagree on.

Nah, you're just wrong.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 06, 2023, 03:04:42 PM
At this moment its actually impossible to be wrong about Cash being Emerys man long-term as only time will tell so there!


"Emery is not thought to be convinced by Digne (or Cash) which is why he has signed Moreno and may look for a right-back in the summer, with Ashley Young turning 38 in July"
Source:
ITK Tom Collomosse
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on March 06, 2023, 03:27:54 PM
At this moment its actually impossible to be wrong about Cash being Emerys man long-term as only time will tell so there!


"Emery is not thought to be convinced by Digne (or Cash) which is why he has signed Moreno and may look for a right-back in the summer, with Ashley Young turning 38 in July"
Source:
ITK Tom Collomosse

You were wrong about why he wasn't playing though, which is what everyone else is talking about, just because you've decided to move the goalposts to wiggle out of it (exactly like when you claimed Olsen would be starting ahead of Martinez) doesn't mean anyone has forgotten the nonsense you've posted. Young came into the team because Cash was given a break after the world cup, Young played well and kept his spot but Cash has now been eased back into the team.

The worst part is what happened at right back is exactly what should happen at a well run club with decent cover in the squad but instead of understanding that, and being pleased to see it, you and many other people, decided to read something else into it and create a story that didn't need to exist, which is exactly the point Cash is making in the article you posted.

As for that quote, a quick tip for you, anything that starts with "XX is not thought to..." is most likely bullshit because that means "someone, somewhere has suggested that...". For someone who posts a lot of bullshit (McGinn going to Dublin for example) you'd think you'd know how to spot it by now.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Astnor on March 06, 2023, 06:23:32 PM
Cash had ane easy game / wasnt tested much against Crystal Palace so his ability as a RB for us (for the future) is still questionable IMO.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 06, 2023, 07:07:12 PM
They’ve got a dangerous forward line who ripped us a new one in the away game. Perhaps it was only an easy game because the defence made it one?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 07, 2023, 11:22:52 AM
Two assists don't make a summer etc. Rather than being told by his manager when to go forward and not, hopefully he'll learn by himself soon enough. It's an area that we can still improve on and I'd expect a RB to be signed in the summer, especially if Young isn't given a new deal.

Clear example of his level of football intelligence developing but still having to learn.
I don't even know if  Cash can cope with Millers princple of 7 plus or minus 2 rule.
Emery is determining which players can retain and remember tactical strategies and all of the information given, as well as how much they can comprehend.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: brontebilly on March 09, 2023, 10:11:46 AM
Cash had ane easy game / wasnt tested much against Crystal Palace so his ability as a RB for us (for the future) is still questionable IMO.

That's harsh, likes of Eze and Zaha are no mugs. Cash dealt with them well and made the goal. Was a huge improvement from his first half debacle against Everton anyway.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on March 09, 2023, 10:15:43 AM
Cash had ane easy game / wasnt tested much against Crystal Palace so his ability as a RB for us (for the future) is still questionable IMO.

That's harsh, likes of Eze and Zaha are no mugs. Cash dealt with them well and made the goal. Was a huge improvement from his first half debacle against Everton anyway.

Where we were lucky that Dwight McNeil is absolute garbage
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 09, 2023, 11:42:38 AM
Cash had ane easy game / wasnt tested much against Crystal Palace so his ability as a RB for us (for the future) is still questionable IMO.

That's harsh, likes of Eze and Zaha are no mugs. Cash dealt with them well and made the goal. Was a huge improvement from his first half debacle against Everton anyway.

Where we were lucky that Dwight McNeil is absolute garbage
A few seasons ago, strong rumour we were looking to sign McNeill, but the asking fee was far too high.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on March 09, 2023, 11:47:06 AM
Cash had ane easy game / wasnt tested much against Crystal Palace so his ability as a RB for us (for the future) is still questionable IMO.

That's harsh, likes of Eze and Zaha are no mugs. Cash dealt with them well and made the goal. Was a huge improvement from his first half debacle against Everton anyway.

Where we were lucky that Dwight McNeil is absolute garbage
A few seasons ago, strong rumour we were looking to sign McNeill, but the asking fee was far too high.

Do you know what, I can fucking read as well, thanks.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Bad English on March 09, 2023, 11:51:10 AM
I don't even know if Cash can cope with Millers principle of 7 plus or minus 2 rule.
He and his teammates are having enough trouble grappling with Villa's Law, which states that when you pass the ball 7 times across the back, our goal difference rapidly experiences a decrement of -2.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: chrisw1 on March 09, 2023, 01:54:15 PM
Is it really that controversial that some posters think Matty Cash isn't that great or may not be what Emery wants long term?

I've really liked him since he joined, he's made a god contribution and is particulalry good stepping onto loose balls and driving forward.  But mostly his final ball has been a bit iffy and for the amount of times he's got in and around the box in the last couple of seasons his end product has been poor.

I'm in no massive rush to replace him but unless we see a lot more consistency I can see why people think he has some weaknesses and may not last the distance with Emery.

I understand the frustration at the 'conspiracy theories' but even so I think the way some are jumping on other posters opinions is getting a bit OTT for my liking. 
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Neil Hawkes on March 09, 2023, 02:39:16 PM
Two assists don't make a summer etc. Rather than being told by his manager when to go forward and not, hopefully he'll learn by himself soon enough. It's an area that we can still improve on and I'd expect a RB to be signed in the summer, especially if Young isn't given a new deal.

Clear example of his level of football intelligence developing but still having to learn.
I don't even know if  Cash can cope with Millers princple of 7 plus or minus 2 rule.
Emery is determining which players can retain and remember tactical strategies and all of the information given, as well as how much they can comprehend.
OR
It's a lot easier to see and direct what's going on from the touchline, without having to deal with those pesky players that keep coming at you with (or for) the ball.

Seriously Fella, stop questioning other peoples intelligence, unless you've been able to sit down and have a chat with that person - then you can form an opinion.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 09, 2023, 02:40:15 PM
I don't even know if Cash can cope with Millers principle of 7 plus or minus 2 rule.
He and his teammates are having enough trouble grappling with Villa's Law, which states that when you pass the ball 7 times across the back, our goal difference rapidly experiences a decrement of -2.
Brilliant!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 09, 2023, 02:43:41 PM
Two assists don't make a summer etc. Rather than being told by his manager when to go forward and not, hopefully he'll learn by himself soon enough. It's an area that we can still improve on and I'd expect a RB to be signed in the summer, especially if Young isn't given a new deal.

Clear example of his level of football intelligence developing but still having to learn.
I don't even know if  Cash can cope with Millers princple of 7 plus or minus 2 rule.
Emery is determining which players can retain and remember tactical strategies and all of the information given, as well as how much they can comprehend.
OR
It's a lot easier to see and direct what's going on from the touchline, without having to deal with those pesky players that keep coming at you with (or for) the ball.

Seriously Fella, stop questioning other peoples intelligence, unless you've been able to sit down and have a chat with that person - then you can form an opinion.
Football intelligence is something completely different than general IQ
And I was exercising my right to do that based on my findings.
Just a bits of strategy ignorance is what I've found.
But it's encouraging that he's obviously eager to learn.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Neil Hawkes on March 09, 2023, 03:06:00 PM
OK Footie, let me humour you here.

I only see the games on the telly, and I am sometimes bemused why players can not see a pass, a move, a developing situation that is blatantly obvious from my seat on the settee.
Then, when I've stopped screaming at said telly, the family have let go of the lampshades and the dog comes out of hiding, I realise that at quite a few moments in the game a player's line of sight is completely different to what I can see, and is frequently blocked by a marauding pack of footballers looking to thwart whatever he intends doing.
That's why an intelligent manager can show to his players when to do something they may not have been able to assess from their own ever-changing, continually crowded viewpoint on the pitch.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 09, 2023, 03:52:17 PM
The likes of Manas, Trivedi and Ure are the analysts and watch the game from the sidelines or the stands while simultaneously coding it live and communicating with the coaching staff about details. Specific details.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Chris Smith on March 09, 2023, 04:09:31 PM
The likes of Manas, Trivedi and Ure are the analysts and watch the game from the sidelines or the stands while simultaneously coding it live and communicating with the coaching staff about details. Specific details.

What Ure has to say means nothing to me.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Tayls_7 on March 09, 2023, 04:14:22 PM
The likes of Manas, Trivedi and Ure are the analysts and watch the game from the sidelines or the stands while simultaneously coding it live and communicating with the coaching staff about details. Specific details.

They seem really skilled.  What level of analyst provides information like, and I'm just spitballing here, a player hasn't been on the winning side against WHU in five attempts?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 09, 2023, 04:18:31 PM
The likes of Manas, Trivedi and Ure are the analysts and watch the game from the sidelines or the stands while simultaneously coding it live and communicating with the coaching staff about details. Specific details.

He used to play for Rapid (Aaah) Vienna.

What Ure has to say means nothing to me.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Percy McCarthy on March 09, 2023, 04:20:55 PM
The likes of Manas, Trivedi and Ure are the analysts and watch the game from the sidelines or the stands while simultaneously coding it live and communicating with the coaching staff about details. Specific details.

They seem really skilled.  What level of analyst provides information like, and I'm just spitballing here, a player hasn't been on the winning side against WHU in five attempts?

A really shit one who looks up to the analytical skills of Gabby Agbonlahor?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: brontebilly on March 12, 2023, 05:37:34 PM
Shocking today, Emery seemed to be far from happy with him either. Hasn't a clue what position he should be in when defending bog standard cross field passes. Also far from impressed on his inability to get out quickly and block crosses. The likes of McNeill and Benhrama are far from superstars too.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: RamboandBruno on March 12, 2023, 05:44:23 PM
Yes i think whilst some are thriving under Emery, McGinn, Mings, Watkins, Dougie, a couple are really struggling to adapt. Cash and Konsa in particular, although i thought Konsa was decent today. I thought it was a statement hooking Cash for Young and it will be interesting if Young is given another a year and if that does happen whether we go out and buy another right back and let Cash go.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on March 12, 2023, 05:51:38 PM
Was surprised he wasn't taken off much earlier. Benrahma had the better of him in nearly every duel.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: London Villan on March 12, 2023, 05:54:14 PM
I think it’s more of Emery managing players fitness as he’s always taking off both of his full backs midway through the second half. That said Matt Cash had a poor game today.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Goldie.7 on March 12, 2023, 06:34:30 PM
All this guy does is pass the ball backwards 95% of the time. Absolute garbage fullback.

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Aldridge Villa on March 12, 2023, 07:10:34 PM
I posted a month or so ago querying what’s happened to the Matty Cash “of old”. Thought he was very good against Palace but forum observations of his performance today, which in the main I don’t disagree with still suggest something ain’t quite right. Hope he’s with us next season but I’d put it at 50/50.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 12, 2023, 07:47:04 PM
He was good last week against Palace, much less so today. Emery clearly likes an asymmetrical formation, ie has one full back bombing forward, in this case Moreno, with the other having to stay back more, and today it was Cash. I don't think that suits Cash's natural game to be honest, as he's somebody who likes to get up and down the pitch.

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on March 12, 2023, 08:15:59 PM
Maybe, but he also just wasn't able to handle Benrahma.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: VILLA MOLE on March 12, 2023, 08:21:48 PM
We always seem to make Benrahma. look really good
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: coreyfeldman on March 12, 2023, 08:24:14 PM
Yes i think whilst some are thriving under Emery, McGinn, Mings, Watkins, Dougie, a couple are really struggling to adapt. Cash and Konsa in particular, although i thought Konsa was decent today. I thought it was a statement hooking Cash for Young and it will be interesting if Young is given another a year and if that does happen whether we go out and buy another right back and let Cash go.

I think with Duran and bert on the pitch he wanted a calmer head than cash tbh, also hes rotated the full backs a lot
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 13, 2023, 12:33:47 PM
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Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Bad English on March 14, 2023, 11:00:56 AM
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Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 14, 2023, 11:26:17 AM
All this guy does is pass the ball backwards 95% of the time. Absolute garbage fullback.



He had a poor day, but that’s nonsense. You don’t have to look back far, did you see the Palace game?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: algy on March 14, 2023, 05:31:23 PM
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Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Mister E on March 14, 2023, 06:36:24 PM
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Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 19, 2023, 08:52:12 AM
A quick bump to say how good Cash was yesterday. Up there with several players as a candidate for MOTM.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Bad English on March 19, 2023, 08:54:02 AM
On the money Martin.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Villafirst on March 24, 2023, 09:58:12 PM
Matty Cash had to come off after 9 minutes tonight playing for Poland. The severity of any injury is unknown. I hate these matches!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 25, 2023, 07:20:16 AM
Oh FFS.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ian. on March 25, 2023, 07:35:16 AM
Crappy internationals, I’m just glad Ollie and Mings was not selected, as selfish as that sounds.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Exeter 77 on March 25, 2023, 10:31:36 AM
I've seen a suggestion that it is a calf strain but knowing Villa that probably means we won't see him again until August.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Villafirst on March 26, 2023, 09:13:13 PM
Yes, a calf strain.......hopefully he will only miss a couple of games.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on March 26, 2023, 09:58:32 PM
Knee-knack, calf-knack
Give the dog a bone
This Mettjy Kesh
Came limping home
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: VILLA MOLE on March 26, 2023, 10:12:26 PM
Is Kessler available?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 27, 2023, 12:22:56 AM
Really pissed off with this, he was great against Bournemouth and Chelsea have plenty of pace in the side.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: adrenachrome on March 27, 2023, 01:38:12 AM
Really pissed off with this, he was great against Bournemouth and Chelsea have plenty of pace in the side.

We usually get fucked by international breaks, one way or the other.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 27, 2023, 09:43:41 AM
Is Kessler available?
Of course, with all of Ash Young's experience I think he would come in, however he will still struggle to keep up with Mudryk's pace if they both start

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 27, 2023, 09:44:33 AM
Really pissed off with this, he was great against Bournemouth and Chelsea have plenty of pace in the side.

We usually get fucked by international breaks, one way or the other.

I'm curious how well Cash was prepared for the international, as a calf strain so early on at 9 minutes is usually self-inflicted due to a lack of stretching and warm-up. What's going on there?
Lost in translation?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on March 27, 2023, 09:45:34 AM
Another one with a shit attitude. We'll have nobody left soon.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 27, 2023, 10:04:26 AM
Knee-knack, calf-knack
Give the dog a bone
This Mettjy Kesh
Came limping home
The cost of living the international break has made us Cashless
A cash withdrawal ironically would not have done so.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: chrisw1 on March 27, 2023, 10:04:28 AM
Really pissed off with this, he was great against Bournemouth and Chelsea have plenty of pace in the side.

We usually get fucked by international breaks, one way or the other.

I'm curious how well Cash was prepared for the international, as a calf strain so early on at 9 minutes is usually self-inflicted due to a lack of stretching and warm-up. What's going on there?
Lost in translation?
Do you really believe this or are you just trying to get your post count up?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 27, 2023, 10:05:25 AM
Really pissed off with this, he was great against Bournemouth and Chelsea have plenty of pace in the side.

We usually get fucked by international breaks, one way or the other.

I'm curious how well Cash was prepared for the international, as a calf strain so early on at 9 minutes is usually self-inflicted due to a lack of stretching and warm-up. What's going on there?
Lost in translation?

Honestly, can you just stop posting utter shit for one day, please? Just one day.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 27, 2023, 10:10:08 AM
Really pissed off with this, he was great against Bournemouth and Chelsea have plenty of pace in the side.

We usually get fucked by international breaks, one way or the other.

I'm curious how well Cash was prepared for the international, as a calf strain so early on at 9 minutes is usually self-inflicted due to a lack of stretching and warm-up. What's going on there?
Lost in translation?
Do you really believe this or are you just trying to get your post count up?
When a player is hurt within 15 minutes with a hamstring or body strain and it is not a knock, the preparation must be examined.
I'm sure the required due diligence will occur to what happened.
It's also disappointing for Cashy as has been starting matches for us and now he'll be unavailable for one or two games I suppose if it's not serious



Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 27, 2023, 10:12:54 AM
Really pissed off with this, he was great against Bournemouth and Chelsea have plenty of pace in the side.

We usually get fucked by international breaks, one way or the other.

I'm curious how well Cash was prepared for the international, as a calf strain so early on at 9 minutes is usually self-inflicted due to a lack of stretching and warm-up. What's going on there?
Lost in translation?

Honestly, can you just stop posting utter shit for one day, please? Just one day.

Such theorizes are possible occurrences due to language and how a player warms up and prepares . So actually it's just your opinion and not fact about what your terming my posts as I can speculate to what happened and raise it for discussion.
Can join that debate or not.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 27, 2023, 10:19:46 AM
Oh no. Not language again.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on March 27, 2023, 10:20:34 AM
5 out of the last 8 posts!
Am I glad he's blocked, just a pain scrolling through post after post on every topic going.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on March 27, 2023, 11:24:49 AM
Should be able to speak Spolish.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 27, 2023, 11:48:04 AM
The cost of living the international break has made us Cashless
A cash withdrawal ironically would not have done so.

Last thing we need atm.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on March 27, 2023, 11:49:20 AM
The cost of living the international break has made us Cashless
A cash withdrawal ironically would not have done so.

Last thing we need atm.

He'll have a late fitness cheque
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on March 27, 2023, 11:50:03 AM
The cost of living the international break has made us Cashless
A cash withdrawal ironically would not have done so.

Last thing we need atm.

He'll have a late fitness cheque

Noted.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Towser on March 27, 2023, 11:56:16 AM
he is in pole position to start
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 27, 2023, 12:09:43 PM
Really pissed off with this, he was great against Bournemouth and Chelsea have plenty of pace in the side.

We usually get fucked by international breaks, one way or the other.

I'm curious how well Cash was prepared for the international, as a calf strain so early on at 9 minutes is usually self-inflicted due to a lack of stretching and warm-up. What's going on there?
Lost in translation?

He got a Ryanair flight and was cramped into his seat.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 27, 2023, 12:12:17 PM
The cost of living the international break has made us Cashless
A cash withdrawal ironically would not have done so.

Last thing we need atm.

He'll have a late fitness cheque

Noted.

At least it’s not a BACS injury.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 27, 2023, 01:48:20 PM
The cost of living the international break has made us Cashless
A cash withdrawal ironically would not have done so.

Last thing we need atm.

He'll have a late fitness cheque

Noted.

At least it’s not a BACS injury.
.

Must be difficult for him being injured on top of being refused in shops
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on March 27, 2023, 01:48:22 PM
Really pissed off with this, he was great against Bournemouth and Chelsea have plenty of pace in the side.

We usually get fucked by international breaks, one way or the other.

I'm curious how well Cash was prepared for the international, as a calf strain so early on at 9 minutes is usually self-inflicted due to a lack of stretching and warm-up. What's going on there?
Lost in translation?

The most common causes of calf strains, by a huge degree, are to do with planting your heel and either having your carry you over it or trying to turn whilst you still have that forward momentum. I haven't seen what happened to Cash but if it looks like either of those then it has nothing to do with stretching or warming-up.

Also just to be clear when did you study physiotherapy? I'm about 24 years on from the year I did at uni (before switching degree) and I'm far from an expert but I picked up enough to know basics (and then my own knee and ankle problems mean I know loads more about those). I ask because you speak with such conviction about things like this so I'd like to know if you have any actual expertise or if you are, as with other topics, just making it up.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 27, 2023, 02:06:02 PM
Well, I'm more familiar with horse physiology than human physiology, but I'm well-versed in several areas of these things not an expert but high end competence, and the muscle injury was most likely caused by the weights or type of training they were doing in the Poland camp, which was different from Villa, and then adapting caused an issue that was aggravated by playing.

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Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on March 27, 2023, 02:07:11 PM
Well, I'm more familiar with horse physiology than human physiology, but I'm well-versed in several areas of these things not an expert but high end competence, and the muscle injury was most likely caused by the weights or type of training they were doing in the Poland camp, which was different from Villa, and then adapting caused an issue that was aggravated by playing.

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He's having a mare.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 27, 2023, 02:08:50 PM
Well, I'm more familiar with horse physiology than human physiology, but I'm well-versed in several areas of these things not an expert but high end competence, and the muscle injury was most likely caused by the weights or type of training they were doing in the Poland camp, which was different from Villa, and then adapting caused an issue that was aggravated by playing.

I claim my 5 pounds in Cash!
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"Most likely". Stop making stuff up, FFS!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 27, 2023, 02:18:17 PM
Well, I'm more familiar with horse physiology than human physiology, but I'm well-versed in several areas of these things not an expert but high end competence, and the muscle injury was most likely caused by the weights or type of training they were doing in the Poland camp, which was different from Villa, and then adapting caused an issue that was aggravated by playing.

I claim my 5 pounds in Cash!
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"Most likely". Stop making stuff up, FFS!

Think you need to view his posts with more equinimity.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Percy McCarthy on March 27, 2023, 02:28:07 PM
Well, I'm more familiar with horse physiology than human physiology, but I'm well-versed in several areas of these things not an expert but high end competence, and the muscle injury was most likely caused by the weights or type of training they were doing in the Poland camp, which was different from Villa, and then adapting caused an issue that was aggravated by playing.

I claim my 5 pounds in Cash!
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"Most likely". Stop making stuff up, FFS!

Think you need to view his posts with more equinimity.

The ataraxy will grow.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 27, 2023, 02:50:37 PM
Well, I'm more familiar with horse physiology than human physiology, but I'm well-versed in several areas of these things not an expert but high end competence, and the muscle injury was most likely caused by the weights or type of training they were doing in the Poland camp, which was different from Villa, and then adapting caused an issue that was aggravated by playing.

I claim my 5 pounds in Cash!
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"Most likely". Stop making stuff up, FFS!

Think you need to view his posts with more equinimity.

The ataraxy will grow.

That horse has bolted.  It’s not the mane reason for the injury though.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 27, 2023, 03:12:17 PM
Well, I'm more familiar with horse physiology than human physiology, but I'm well-versed in several areas of these things not an expert but high end competence, and the muscle injury was most likely caused by the weights or type of training they were doing in the Poland camp, which was different from Villa, and then adapting caused an issue that was aggravated by playing.

I claim my 5 pounds in Cash!
Thank You.

"Most likely". Stop making stuff up, FFS!

Think you need to view his posts with more equinimity.

The ataraxy will grow.

That horse has bolted.  It’s not the mane reason for the injury though.

Who the fuck does he think he is?

Jurgen Clop?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on March 27, 2023, 03:15:57 PM
Well, I'm more familiar with horse physiology than human physiology, but I'm well-versed in several areas of these things not an expert but high end competence, and the muscle injury was most likely caused by the weights or type of training they were doing in the Poland camp, which was different from Villa, and then adapting caused an issue that was aggravated by playing.

I claim my 5 pounds in Cash!
Thank You.

Again, a calf strain from a change in training would be highly unlikely unless the medical team/coaching are utterly incompetent because your calf is one of the more difficult muscles to overwork in that way.

Muscle issues from excessive training are normally in the back, neck, hamstrings or triceps. Most other muscle issues (especially if they occur during exercise) are more impact/stress related, as above calf are particularly vulnerable to the same stresses as ankles so it's sharp stops/turns which puts excessive force on the achilles and calf.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on March 27, 2023, 03:16:14 PM
So many posts get a bite!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 27, 2023, 04:08:11 PM
Well, I'm more familiar with horse physiology than human physiology, but I'm well-versed in several areas of these things not an expert but high end competence, and the muscle injury was most likely caused by the weights or type of training they were doing in the Poland camp, which was different from Villa, and then adapting caused an issue that was aggravated by playing.

I claim my 5 pounds in Cash!
Thank You.

Again, a calf strain from a change in training would be highly unlikely unless the medical team/coaching are utterly incompetent because your calf is one of the more difficult muscles to overwork in that way.

Muscle issues from excessive training are normally in the back, neck, hamstrings or triceps. Most other muscle issues (especially if they occur during exercise) are more impact/stress related, as above calf are particularly vulnerable to the same stresses as ankles so it's sharp stops/turns which puts excessive force on the achilles and calf.
Well actually yes however that's general terms and we are dealing with a footballer so that's the context and therefore it's conceivable that he overworked his calf, and we all know injury can occur from overuse.
Calf injuries are common amoung footballers as you have to take the context
A proper warm-up and regime pre match must take place to help reduce an injury happening . To me, it's telling it was less than 10 minutes in the game and injured.
And if there was an issue that first arose in training, it's not that it's incompetence by Poland, but a different program was implemented or that Cash could have misunderstood given it was by Polish instruction.
Anyway, let us await the published results of the scan and what grade tear it is.

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clark W Griswold on March 27, 2023, 04:10:06 PM
Well, I'm more familiar with horse physiology than human physiology, but I'm well-versed in several areas of these things not an expert but high end competence, and the muscle injury was most likely caused by the weights or type of training they were doing in the Poland camp, which was different from Villa, and then adapting caused an issue that was aggravated by playing.

I claim my 5 pounds in Cash!
Thank You.

"Most likely". Stop making stuff up, FFS!

Think you need to view his posts with more equinimity.

The ataraxy will grow.

That horse has bolted.  It’s not the mane reason for the injury though.

Who the fuck does he think he is?

Jurgen Clop?

Neigh chance!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on March 27, 2023, 04:20:46 PM
Well, I'm more familiar with horse physiology than human physiology, but I'm well-versed in several areas of these things not an expert but high end competence, and the muscle injury was most likely caused by the weights or type of training they were doing in the Poland camp, which was different from Villa, and then adapting caused an issue that was aggravated by playing.

I claim my 5 pounds in Cash!
Thank You.

Again, a calf strain from a change in training would be highly unlikely unless the medical team/coaching are utterly incompetent because your calf is one of the more difficult muscles to overwork in that way.

Muscle issues from excessive training are normally in the back, neck, hamstrings or triceps. Most other muscle issues (especially if they occur during exercise) are more impact/stress related, as above calf are particularly vulnerable to the same stresses as ankles so it's sharp stops/turns which puts excessive force on the achilles and calf.

It's conceivable that he overworked his calf, and we all know injury can occur from overuse.
A proper warm-up and regime pre match must take place to help reduce an injury happening . To me, it's telling it was less than 10 minutes in the game and injured.
And if there was an issue that first arose in training, it's not that it's incompetence by Poland, but a different program was implemented or that Cash could have misunderstood given it was by Polish instruction.
Anyway, let us await the published results of the scan and what grade tear it is.

conceivable maybe but highly unlikely. My point really is that, as often happens with you, you've ignored a simple and far more likely explanations to create a theory that lets you push an agenda. Easily the most likely explanation here is that he turned sharply, felt some discomfort and when it didn't go after a little while he signalled to the bench and they took him off as a precaution to avoid more serious damage. It's most likely he'll be out for around 2 weeks and will be back for Newcastle with Forest probably coming slightly too soon but still a possibility.

I've seen nothing to suggest it's a tear though, everything I've seen online suggests a strain which the Polish team have already had checked before sending him back to the club.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 27, 2023, 04:32:04 PM
Well we can all have our theories.

Ex Polish player and now pundit Tomasz Hajto, said this on the show Cafe Futbol, about Cash injury after 9 minutes recalling that when he was a player, he faced a similar situation but stayed behind and came back.

He said: “I never said he faked an injury, but I think he did. I don’t want to believe that after such a few minutes, after which he went down, he didn’t want to rehabilitate himself. His injury is not a tear or torn fibres, it’s an alleged strain.

“I would stay until Monday. I would like to heal at all costs and show the manager that I care. Say: ‘I’m sorry coach, but I’m ready and with Albania, I will be the best on the pitch’. And now we find out that he is packing up and leaving.”

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 27, 2023, 04:38:59 PM
Footy, is this part of your conviction that Metty Cesh is a 'bad person'?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on March 27, 2023, 04:48:40 PM
Christ, I need a beer. And some hookers. And drugs, lots of drugs.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: rob_bridge on March 27, 2023, 04:50:27 PM
Good thing with him coming back is he can do extra Spanish lessons.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Chris Smith on March 27, 2023, 06:34:21 PM
Well we can all have our theories.

Ex Polish player and now pundit Tomasz Hajto, said this on the show Cafe Futbol, about Cash injury after 9 minutes recalling that when he was a player, he faced a similar situation but stayed behind and came back.

He said: “I never said he faked an injury, but I think he did. I don’t want to believe that after such a few minutes, after which he went down, he didn’t want to rehabilitate himself. His injury is not a tear or torn fibres, it’s an alleged strain.

“I would stay until Monday. I would like to heal at all costs and show the manager that I care. Say: ‘I’m sorry coach, but I’m ready and with Albania, I will be the best on the pitch’. And now we find out that he is packing up and leaving.”



Out for 3 weeks apparently.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 27, 2023, 06:40:21 PM
That’ll larn him for doing stupid Polish exercises and weights.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 27, 2023, 07:20:17 PM
His problem is he doesn't understand Polish well enough.

The coach said "have a good game, Matty" and he misunderstood it as "fuck your calf up, Matty".

Another example why Emery only wants Spanish speaking players.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: WarszaVillan on March 27, 2023, 07:23:02 PM
That’ll larn him for doing stupid Polish exercises and weights.

It's all those fucking cases.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Mister E on March 27, 2023, 07:42:44 PM
Well we can all have our theories.

Ex Polish player and now pundit Tomasz Hajto, said this on the show Cafe Futbol, about Cash injury after 9 minutes recalling that when he was a player, he faced a similar situation but stayed behind and came back.

He said: “I never said he faked an injury, but I think he did. I don’t want to believe that after such a few minutes, after which he went down, he didn’t want to rehabilitate himself. His injury is not a tear or torn fibres, it’s an alleged strain.

“I would stay until Monday. I would like to heal at all costs and show the manager that I care. Say: ‘I’m sorry coach, but I’m ready and with Albania, I will be the best on the pitch’. And now we find out that he is packing up and leaving.”
Footy, if you're not a troll, can you please stop talking utter bollox. Please?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Zouch Villa on March 27, 2023, 07:59:09 PM
Christ, I need a beer. And some hookers. And drugs, lots of drugs.

Ah, I can only confirm that is not the path to righteous redemption. 



But it certainly helps to dull the pain.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 27, 2023, 09:03:47 PM
Well we can all have our theories.

Ex Polish player and now pundit Tomasz Hajto, said this on the show Cafe Futbol, about Cash injury after 9 minutes recalling that when he was a player, he faced a similar situation but stayed behind and came back.

He said: “I never said he faked an injury, but I think he did. I don’t want to believe that after such a few minutes, after which he went down, he didn’t want to rehabilitate himself. His injury is not a tear or torn fibres, it’s an alleged strain.

“I would stay until Monday. I would like to heal at all costs and show the manager that I care. Say: ‘I’m sorry coach, but I’m ready and with Albania, I will be the best on the pitch’. And now we find out that he is packing up and leaving.”
Footy, if you're not a troll, can you please stop talking utter bollox. Please?
Turn it in!
I was quoting a Polish Pundit with his theory.
Adding to the debate.
As Cash is out for 3 weeks then it is he who was talking nonsense not I.

Source: https://www.teamtalk.com/aston-villa/i-think-he-faked-it-pundit-makes-bizarre-claim-aston-villa-star-faked-injury-nine-minutes-into-euro-qualifier
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 27, 2023, 09:08:54 PM
Well we can all have our theories.

Ex Polish player and now pundit Tomasz Hajto, said this on the show Cafe Futbol, about Cash injury after 9 minutes recalling that when he was a player, he faced a similar situation but stayed behind and came back.

He said: “I never said he faked an injury, but I think he did. I don’t want to believe that after such a few minutes, after which he went down, he didn’t want to rehabilitate himself. His injury is not a tear or torn fibres, it’s an alleged strain.

“I would stay until Monday. I would like to heal at all costs and show the manager that I care. Say: ‘I’m sorry coach, but I’m ready and with Albania, I will be the best on the pitch’. And now we find out that he is packing up and leaving.”



Out for 3 weeks apparently.
According to medical science, the time frame of 3 weeks out with a calf strain would indicate it's a grade one injury.
So it's mild.
Maybe looking at Newcastle at home or Brentford away then for his return.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: adrenachrome on March 28, 2023, 12:58:35 AM
It's all well and good having a theory, FV, but you have gone after Emi, Super John and Matty for lewdness, wassailing and cowardice with apparent glee. Moreover, you have intimated that McGinn and Cash are not capable of taking instructions from the manager.

Forgive me if I doubt your bona fides. I didn't come down with tomorrow's rain and if there were any flies me, they'd be paying rent.

As my compatriot, the great Flann O'Brien once wrote: 'What you think is the point is not the point at all but only the beginning of the sharpness.' .
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on March 28, 2023, 06:44:37 AM
Compatriot? I thought you were meant to be our Caledonian, Presbyterian representative. Gutted....
Great use of wassailing though.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: aldridgeboy on March 29, 2023, 06:11:57 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/s3VSRpx/566-EAAD8-EA70-455-A-8-E3-D-F48479-DA4242.jpg) (https://ibb.co/s3VSRpx)
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on April 06, 2023, 03:33:07 PM
Still injured
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on June 07, 2023, 01:13:36 AM
Displayed his lack of football intelligence and poor showcase of his defending in our final game.
Certainly needs upgrading and that performance reminded everyone about his limitations.
I just don't see him as part of success as first choice but certainly can have a run out likes of teams in Slovenia and Hungary in Europa group matches.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on June 07, 2023, 11:50:03 AM
Displayed his lack of football intelligence and poor showcase of his defending in our final game.
Certainly needs upgrading and that performance reminded everyone about his limitations.
I just don't see him as part of success as first choice but certainly can have a run out likes of teams in Slovenia and Hungary in Europa group matches.

That's harsh, their 2 best players were Enciso and Mitoma, and pretty much their only tactic to open us up was long balls into that corner to get them 1on1 with Cash who was still coming back from injury. I think he did a decent job but looked a bit leggy at times.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on June 07, 2023, 11:56:20 AM
Yep, I'm not sure what he did that was so bad really.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Monty on June 07, 2023, 12:01:53 PM
He didn't do much wrong exactly - it's just that, at the level we want to be at, you really want everyone on the pitch to give something extra rather than just 'can't be blamed'.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: OCD on June 07, 2023, 12:27:24 PM
Although he could have done with having his trailing foot forward a couple of inches when holding the line.

While I'm joking, with how detailed Emery is, I wouldn't be surprised if he's said something to him about his positioning on that set-piece.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dogtanian on June 07, 2023, 12:38:28 PM
Although he could have done with having his trailing foot forward a couple of inches when holding the line.

While I'm joking, with how detailed Emery is, I wouldn't be surprised if he's said something to him about his positioning on that set-piece.

He absolutely will have done. But, he's not had as much practice at that as the rest of the group because of his injury, and it takes a lot of focus and teamwork to pull it off like they have been.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on June 07, 2023, 12:42:53 PM
A fresh new start for us at RB to go all guns blazing for top four. Ash and Cash will soon be usurped.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Smithy on June 07, 2023, 12:50:44 PM
Although he could have done with having his trailing foot forward a couple of inches when holding the line.

While I'm joking, with how detailed Emery is, I wouldn't be surprised if he's said something to him about his positioning on that set-piece.

He absolutely will have done. But, he's not had as much practice at that as the rest of the group because of his injury, and it takes a lot of focus and teamwork to pull it off like they have been.

Guaranteed. There is little excuse for a full-back not holding the line in our formation. You can perhaps forgive a centre-back, given they are potentially having to watch in front AND both sides, but a full-back in our system shouldn't be a yard or two behind the line in open play.

I'd be interested to know who 'owns' the line in our formation - I suspect it's Tyrone and everyone follows his lead?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: brontebilly on June 07, 2023, 12:59:35 PM
Although he could have done with having his trailing foot forward a couple of inches when holding the line.

While I'm joking, with how detailed Emery is, I wouldn't be surprised if he's said something to him about his positioning on that set-piece.

He absolutely will have done. But, he's not had as much practice at that as the rest of the group because of his injury, and it takes a lot of focus and teamwork to pull it off like they have been.

Guaranteed. There is little excuse for a full-back not holding the line in our formation. You can perhaps forgive a centre-back, given they are potentially having to watch in front AND both sides, but a full-back in our system shouldn't be a yard or two behind the line in open play.

I'd be interested to know who 'owns' the line in our formation - I suspect it's Tyrone and everyone follows his lead?

Usually would be the CB, golden rule for the FBs is not to get caught behind. Young was very sharp at that, Martinez up high behind them. Compared to the absolute circus we were defensively under Gerrard at Palace for example, it was some turnaround defensively under Emery.

Cash had some decent games under Emery and injuries caused him to miss games. But he simply has to improve his positional sense when the ball is in the air, looking back at that Everton game and his inability to deal with Dyche ball was embarrassing for a PL defender.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on June 07, 2023, 01:02:08 PM
Although he could have done with having his trailing foot forward a couple of inches when holding the line.

While I'm joking, with how detailed Emery is, I wouldn't be surprised if he's said something to him about his positioning on that set-piece.

He absolutely will have done. But, he's not had as much practice at that as the rest of the group because of his injury, and it takes a lot of focus and teamwork to pull it off like they have been.

Guaranteed. There is little excuse for a full-back not holding the line in our formation. You can perhaps forgive a centre-back, given they are potentially having to watch in front AND both sides, but a full-back in our system shouldn't be a yard or two behind the line in open play.

I'd be interested to know who 'owns' the line in our formation - I suspect it's Tyrone and everyone follows his lead?

I think at time Konsa owns it too, though it's usually Mings. They just seem really well drilled, it looks automatic for them all now, not looking about to cover each other etc, just focusing on their own roles.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Smithy on June 07, 2023, 01:04:35 PM
Although he could have done with having his trailing foot forward a couple of inches when holding the line.

While I'm joking, with how detailed Emery is, I wouldn't be surprised if he's said something to him about his positioning on that set-piece.

He absolutely will have done. But, he's not had as much practice at that as the rest of the group because of his injury, and it takes a lot of focus and teamwork to pull it off like they have been.

Guaranteed. There is little excuse for a full-back not holding the line in our formation. You can perhaps forgive a centre-back, given they are potentially having to watch in front AND both sides, but a full-back in our system shouldn't be a yard or two behind the line in open play.

I'd be interested to know who 'owns' the line in our formation - I suspect it's Tyrone and everyone follows his lead?

Usually would be the CB, golden rule for the FBs is not to get caught behind. Young was very sharp at that, Martinez up high behind them. Compared to the absolute circus we were defensively under Gerrard at Palace for example, it was some turnaround defensively under Emery.

Cash had some decent games under Emery and injuries caused him to miss games. But he simply has to improve his positional sense when the ball is in the air, looking back at that Everton game and his inability to deal with Dyche ball was embarrassing for a PL defender.

It's interesting to note in the McGinn article posted in the Emery thread, how he spoke of "football intelligence" being a big part of the coaching now under Emery.  And as much as I like Matty Cash, he doesn't strike me as the brightest of players (this is just going from the interviews I've seen, he could well be a secret Mensa candidate).

I suspect that being able to process and react to lots of information on the pitch in real-time, is something only the clever players will ever really excel at.  Though Jack has surprised me by apparently being able to do that for Pep at Man City, so who knows?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Smithy on June 07, 2023, 01:07:59 PM
Although he could have done with having his trailing foot forward a couple of inches when holding the line.

While I'm joking, with how detailed Emery is, I wouldn't be surprised if he's said something to him about his positioning on that set-piece.

He absolutely will have done. But, he's not had as much practice at that as the rest of the group because of his injury, and it takes a lot of focus and teamwork to pull it off like they have been.

Guaranteed. There is little excuse for a full-back not holding the line in our formation. You can perhaps forgive a centre-back, given they are potentially having to watch in front AND both sides, but a full-back in our system shouldn't be a yard or two behind the line in open play.

I'd be interested to know who 'owns' the line in our formation - I suspect it's Tyrone and everyone follows his lead?

I think at time Konsa owns it too, though it's usually Mings. They just seem really well drilled, it looks automatic for them all now, not looking about to cover each other etc, just focusing on their own roles.

I never played to a particularly high standard, but I distinctly remember in one important game the manager telling our entire back four to step up every time a particular midfielder got the ball on the half turn anywhere in the middle of the pitch, because his first thought was always a ball over the top and into the channel. There was no one calling it, they just had to see it and react in unison.  So I'm absolutely positive these elite level athletes have a whole range 'triggers' to look out for in the game, which dictates when they go, stay or react. And no doubt it's drilled into them until it's like muscle memory.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on June 07, 2023, 02:07:10 PM
Yep, it's a beautiful thing to watch when we're on it.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: OCD on June 07, 2023, 02:16:40 PM
It's possible to have a high level of football intelligence while being thick as shit in other aspects of life. Rooney always came across that way.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Tayls_7 on June 07, 2023, 04:45:49 PM
It's possible to have a high level of football intelligence while being thick as shit in other aspects of life. Rooney always came across that way.

(https://c8.alamy.com/comp/JE0HY1/paul-merson-aston-villa-fc-20-may-2000-JE0HY1.jpg)
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 06, 2023, 09:25:28 PM
More evidence of "penny-pinching" at B6 with Matty, Ollie and Tyrone all having to share the same shirt. :( https://twitter.com/GarySmithJnr/status/1674891298833088513

Not my cup of tea at all (not a fan of Casablanca's stuff) but if you'd like one.
https://www.farfetch.com/uk/shopping/men/casablanca-braid-striped-crochet-knit-shirt-item-19946538.aspx?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: AV84 on July 06, 2023, 09:32:01 PM
It's the new away jersey
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 07, 2023, 12:36:59 AM
Not my cup of tea at all (not a fan of Casablanca's stuff) but if you'd like one.
https://www.farfetch.com/uk/shopping/men/casablanca-braid-striped-crochet-knit-shirt-item-19946538.aspx?

I loved it but not for that price.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: nigel on July 07, 2023, 07:51:23 AM
More evidence of "penny-pinching" at B6 with Matty, Ollie and Tyrone all having to share the same shirt. :( https://twitter.com/GarySmithJnr/status/1674891298833088513

Not my cup of tea at all (not a fan of Casablanca's stuff) but if you'd like one.
https://www.farfetch.com/uk/shopping/men/casablanca-braid-striped-crochet-knit-shirt-item-19946538.aspx?

Didn’t Tyrone swap his top with a guy at the festival he’s photographed in?
I want to say an Ipswich top, but might be mistaken on that
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: dave shelley on July 07, 2023, 07:52:21 AM
More evidence of "penny-pinching" at B6 with Matty, Ollie and Tyrone all having to share the same shirt. :( https://twitter.com/GarySmithJnr/status/1674891298833088513

Not my cup of tea at all (not a fan of Casablanca's stuff) but if you'd like one.
https://www.farfetch.com/uk/shopping/men/casablanca-braid-striped-crochet-knit-shirt-item-19946538.aspx?

Didn’t Tyrone swap his top with a guy at the festival he’s photographed in?
I want to say an Ipswich top, but might be mistaken on that

Yes he did and you're correct it was an Ipswich top.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: nigel on July 07, 2023, 07:54:28 AM
More evidence of "penny-pinching" at B6 with Matty, Ollie and Tyrone all having to share the same shirt. :( https://twitter.com/GarySmithJnr/status/1674891298833088513

Not my cup of tea at all (not a fan of Casablanca's stuff) but if you'd like one.
https://www.farfetch.com/uk/shopping/men/casablanca-braid-striped-crochet-knit-shirt-item-19946538.aspx?

Didn’t Tyrone swap his top with a guy at the festival he’s photographed in?
I want to say an Ipswich top, but might be mistaken on that

Yes he did and you're correct it was an Ipswich top.

👍
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: dubaivillain on July 07, 2023, 09:33:47 AM
I saw a bloke in an Ipswich top in Samarkand last week.  They get everywhere.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on July 09, 2023, 10:17:54 PM
Matty Cash plays and chats to snooker legend Stephen Hendry.

https://youtu.be/TRN3tT3xHdk
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: rooboy316 on July 10, 2023, 02:54:46 PM
Matty Cash plays and chats to snooker legend Stephen Hendry.

https://youtu.be/TRN3tT3xHdk (https://youtu.be/TRN3tT3xHdk)

Haven’t got a clue about snooker but I still found that riveting somehow. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dante Lavelli on July 10, 2023, 06:48:02 PM
Matty Cash plays and chats to snooker legend Stephen Hendry.

https://youtu.be/TRN3tT3xHdk (https://youtu.be/TRN3tT3xHdk)

Haven’t got a clue about snooker but I still found that riveting somehow. Thanks for sharing.

How’s this come about, is Matty Cash jumping on the podcast/YouTube bandwagon?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 10, 2023, 07:17:38 PM
How’s this come about, is Matty Cash jumping on the podcast/YouTube bandwagon?

He's friends with Judd Trump and a big snooker fan. He has attended the World Championships a couple of times since he came to Villa.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 10, 2023, 07:32:49 PM
Matty Cash plays and chats to snooker legend Stephen Hendry.

https://youtu.be/TRN3tT3xHdk (https://youtu.be/TRN3tT3xHdk)

Haven’t got a clue about snooker but I still found that riveting somehow. Thanks for sharing.

How’s this come about, is Matty Cash jumping on the podcast/YouTube bandwagon?

No, he's the guest.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Jimsta on July 14, 2023, 05:17:23 PM
Day in the Life of Matty Cash,
https://youtu.be/5J20-UlKqlU
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Mister E on July 14, 2023, 06:08:42 PM
How’s this come about, is Matty Cash jumping on the podcast/YouTube bandwagon?

He's friends with Judd Trump and a big snooker fan. He has attended the World Championships a couple of times since he came to Villa.
if that you, Eastie?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 14, 2023, 07:24:16 PM
How’s this come about, is Matty Cash jumping on the podcast/YouTube bandwagon?

He's friends with Judd Trump and a big snooker fan. He has attended the World Championships a couple of times since he came to Villa.

 if that you, Eastie?

All pretty well known I think, and discussed on here. He was also interviewed at The Crucible. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RZTs9z_rjYY
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dogtanian on July 14, 2023, 10:16:24 PM
Day in the Life of Matty Cash,
https://youtu.be/5J20-UlKqlU

White toast!? No wonder Konsa is shaking his head.

I’m proper jealous of that toaster though.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Pete3206 on July 14, 2023, 10:22:11 PM
I think Konsa couldn't believe the tediousness of it all. Villa TV do some great stuff but following a player into the canteen to watch him order scrambled eggs, then fiddle with a toaster isn't exactly scintillating content.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 14, 2023, 10:28:05 PM
I think Konsa couldn't believe the tediousness of it all. Villa TV do some great stuff but following a player into the canteen to watch him order scrambled eggs, then fiddle with a toaster isn't exactly scintillating content.

Where can I watch this?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 14, 2023, 10:29:07 PM
Your kitchen, tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 14, 2023, 10:31:01 PM
Might have cereals. Jazz it up a bit.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 14, 2023, 10:49:57 PM
Sell-out. CD would be wiping fat from the pan, the perv.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Pete3206 on July 14, 2023, 11:25:49 PM
I think Konsa couldn't believe the tediousness of it all. Villa TV do some great stuff but following a player into the canteen to watch him order scrambled eggs, then fiddle with a toaster isn't exactly scintillating content.




Where can I watch this?


Fill yer boots
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 14, 2023, 11:38:09 PM
He always seems to come across well. It's the kind of piece that's not really aimed at us old feckers.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: adrenachrome on July 14, 2023, 11:56:43 PM
He always seems to come across well. It's the kind of piece that's not really aimed at us old feckers.

Good call.

Imagine in the 1970's hearing that we are playing a pre-season game against Lazio at the Poundland Bescot Stadium, and that you can get a day pass to watch it live on your computer device for £4.99.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dogtanian on July 15, 2023, 07:14:13 AM
I think Konsa couldn't believe the tediousness of it all. Villa TV do some great stuff but following a player into the canteen to watch him order scrambled eggs, then fiddle with a toaster isn't exactly scintillating content.

I actually like that sort of thing! It’s a bit like 2001, but with more talking and only slightly less action.  ;D

The mystery of what was in those boxes at the end too? Great stuff!

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PeterWithe on July 15, 2023, 08:47:04 AM
Might have cereals. Jazz it up a bit.

You’ve gone and spoiled the ending now.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: dave shelley on July 15, 2023, 09:17:00 AM
I think Konsa couldn't believe the tediousness of it all. Villa TV do some great stuff but following a player into the canteen to watch him order scrambled eggs, then fiddle with a toaster isn't exactly scintillating content.

Konza strikes me as a lad that doesn't suffer fools gladly.  Wasn't it him that called JJ. a twat when he ,[JJ] referred to the ECL as 'only' the ECL when the fans were hyper prior to the Brighton game on the final day.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: N'ZMAV on July 15, 2023, 09:18:54 AM
I enjoyed that Video with Cash.

Lots of Sanson and Chambers
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 15, 2023, 09:56:06 AM
Konza strikes me as a lad that doesn't suffer fools gladly.  Wasn't it him that called JJ. a twat when he ,[JJ] referred to the ECL as 'only' the ECL when the fans were hyper prior to the Brighton game on the final day.

I think you might well be right. I recall an interview a couple of years ago with one of the players who said Konsa was the biggest talker in the dressing room, so he may be very different behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on July 24, 2023, 09:58:07 PM
For Cash, it's been a bit of a defensive struggle.
He does, in my opinion, lack Emery's full trust in his defending abilities and possesion of the ball.
He came inside nearly every time against Newcastle when in possession in our own half.
Credit he stopped a certain goal in defending second half but he does need some competition for his place.


Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 26, 2023, 09:58:29 PM
The Brazilian Cash

https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1684205499615412224
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on July 26, 2023, 10:36:21 PM
He always seems to come across well. It's the kind of piece that's not really aimed at us old feckers.

Good call.

Imagine in the 1970's hearing that we are playing a pre-season game against Lazio at the Poundland Bescot Stadium, and that you can get a day pass to watch it live on your computer device for £4.99.

Oh we were brought up on the space race and now they expect ya to clean toilets. When you've seen how big the world is, how can you make do with this?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 26, 2023, 10:42:03 PM
When I was a kid I thought we'd have flying cars, personal robots and have space colonies. Instead we are so advanced we have to do this

(https://i.redd.it/v7ic3odsmr681.jpg)
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 28, 2023, 08:24:49 AM
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: chrisw1 on July 28, 2023, 09:07:42 AM
When I was a kid I thought we'd have flying cars, personal robots and have space colonies. Instead we are so advanced we have to do this

(https://i.redd.it/v7ic3odsmr681.jpg)

Very good!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: JD on July 28, 2023, 09:44:13 AM
When I was a kid I thought we'd have flying cars, personal robots and have space colonies. Instead we are so advanced we have to do this

(https://i.redd.it/v7ic3odsmr681.jpg)

That's brilliant PWS.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Smithy on July 30, 2023, 08:31:55 PM
The Brazilian Cash

https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1684205499615412224

The first football match I ever went to abroad, was Cafu's debut for Roma in a pre-season friendly at the Stadio Olympico. On the opposing side, Ronaldo was making is debut for Inter Milan.

It was free to get in.  I was Inter-railing with my then missus, and a bloke in the pizza place we ate in told me you could get in for free if the game had kicked off, so I made her wolf down her cheap pizza and we jumped in a cab.  Mr Romance, me.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 10:23:19 PM
Cash back to his best tonight, good to see
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 30, 2023, 10:28:25 PM
When I was a kid I thought we'd have flying cars, personal robots and have space colonies.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJ78oJxW4AE4J0v?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Smithy on July 31, 2023, 09:50:17 AM
Cash back to his best tonight, good to see

I don't think it's a coincidence that for today's game Emery tried making the right-back the attacking threat, and having a more defensive left-back to make up the three at the back when we attacked.

He scored, and played well, but I don't see him playing like that when Moreno is fit.  It'll be one or the other I suspect.  And I think right now Moreno is probably the better attacking full-back option?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on July 31, 2023, 10:20:49 AM
Cash back to his best tonight, good to see

I don't think it's a coincidence that for today's game Emery tried making the right-back the attacking threat, and having a more defensive left-back to make up the three at the back when we attacked.

He scored, and played well, but I don't see him playing like that when Moreno is fit.  It'll be one or the other I suspect.  And I think right now Moreno is probably the better attacking full-back option?

I think we look much better balanced with proper fullbacks at both left back and right back, even if one of them has to be more conservative. I think you're right, Moreno will definitely be the more attacking one when fit, but until he is, I think Cash will get forward more and Digne will stay back. I didn't think either Konsa or Torres at full back looked very convincing to be honest.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: tomd2103 on July 31, 2023, 10:47:50 AM
Cash back to his best tonight, good to see

I don't think it's a coincidence that for today's game Emery tried making the right-back the attacking threat, and having a more defensive left-back to make up the three at the back when we attacked.

He scored, and played well, but I don't see him playing like that when Moreno is fit.  It'll be one or the other I suspect.  And I think right now Moreno is probably the better attacking full-back option?

Yep, definitely think that was the case yesterday.  JPB was out wide left and the right side was left open for Cash to move into.  Diaby had more of s free role in behind Watkins.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 06, 2023, 08:56:00 AM
This season, I believe Cash will be the primary right back. At least until January.
There will be times when he is rested and rotated for Konsa or Chambers, as well as subbed off, but he has to be considered the first choice as a right full back
I like him as a full back who pushes forward. I'm not sure he has the footballing ability or intellect to play inverted or Emery's version of it.
Cashy should now only progress under Emery's tutelage.

It's intriguing to learn that there are specific full back coaches, so if he doesn't advance this season, he'll almost certainly be upgraded.
I believe he has more goal-scoring talent than we have seen and that is something that could be shown. I think his crosses are not as accurate as hope but there are plenty of positives if a little concerning on how he is not always comfortable against one on one defending and on the ball in tight spaces.

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on August 06, 2023, 08:57:36 AM
I don’t agree with that last sentence Footy, I think he’s very good at finding his man with a pass when under pressure.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 06, 2023, 09:02:34 AM
I don’t agree with that last sentence Footy, I think he’s very good at finding his man with a pass when under pressure.
He improving all the time and shows then that passing and composure has improved. That's good to hear and see. Having been away I hadn't seen totally all his performances this week.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Astnor on August 06, 2023, 09:37:57 AM
As Footy says " not always comfortable ... on the ball int tight spaces" has been spot on IMO. There has been like there became trouble because of it and he might have lost it or rushed it on or to another one (Kamara) - that might loose it because of it, and dangerous situations against arised. I was also critical bout his ability to find best position for the RB/RWB in the backline/ the team in situations ( In fact I got the impressions sometimes (not much recently) that he hide a bit from play so dont get the ball cause of " not always comfortable ... on the ball int tight spaces") . But also as Footy says he is improving under Emery as most of the players does so would say its history now.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on August 06, 2023, 11:25:02 AM
I don’t agree with that last sentence Footy, I think he’s very good at finding his man with a pass when under pressure.
He improving all the time and shows then that passing and composure has improved. That's good to hear and see. Having been away I hadn't seen totally all his performances this week.

Hope you had a nice break away.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Bad English on August 06, 2023, 04:18:20 PM
I don’t agree with that last sentence Footy, I think he’s very good at finding his man with a pass when under pressure.
He improving all the time and shows then that passing and composure has improved. That's good to hear and see. Having been away I hadn't seen totally all his performances this week.

Hope you had a nice break away.
Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 27, 2023, 05:27:44 PM
Saves us buying a new goal scorer.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on August 27, 2023, 05:52:10 PM
Saves us buying a new goal scorer.

And a new right back.

*looks smugly at eamonn!*
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: jwarry on August 27, 2023, 06:06:43 PM
Interesting listening to Unai’s post match comments as he referenced that Matty played on the wing at forest and he likes his versatility
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: not3bad on August 27, 2023, 06:19:54 PM
Interesting listening to Unai’s post match comments as he referenced that Matty played on the wing at forest and he likes his versatility

Emery's cooking!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 27, 2023, 06:29:23 PM
Interesting listening to Unai’s post match comments as he referenced that Matty played on the wing at forest and he likes his versatility

Many moons ago I suggested that he might do that for us. Footy or whatever he was called back then said he’d never play in that position for us. Insight. Matty is a versatile player who is brilliant to have in the squad. Not the best RB, not the best RM or winger. But he will always have a brilliant attitude and give his all for the cause.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 27, 2023, 06:31:38 PM
Interesting listening to Unai’s post match comments as he referenced that Matty played on the wing at forest and he likes his versatility

Good actor as well, even when it's not in his native tongue.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Bad English on August 27, 2023, 06:40:18 PM
Footy or whatever...
Careful. They are like Beetlejuice.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 27, 2023, 06:43:56 PM
Footy or whatever...
Careful. They are like Beetlejuice.

Fuck you’re right. Or like the magically appearing shopkeeper in Mr Ben.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: London Villan on August 27, 2023, 06:52:28 PM
Not sure he is a left back though, which was an odd end to the game.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Astnor on August 27, 2023, 07:06:17 PM
I see him as a squad-player , versatile option on the bench after we get some back from injury / get a couple in before closing of the  the window.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: darren woolley on August 28, 2023, 12:14:14 AM
What a performance superb.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: AV84 on August 28, 2023, 09:09:12 AM
Post match interview. Funny he mentions the missed chance at Newcastle and that its stayed on his mind since. The way he, and everyone, speak about Emery's pre match instructions is always like they're amazed by him. All sounding very positive.

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ian. on August 28, 2023, 09:14:26 AM
So pleased for him, he’s a great lad with a great attitude which I believe the boss and coaching staff recognise. He reminds me of Alan Wright who I loved, but always carried a little bit of stick from certain parts of the crowd.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: AV84 on August 28, 2023, 09:17:51 AM
Yeah, people always talk about someone being an "Emery type of player" and I think what an Emery player is is basically someone with the right attitude. Someone who is adaptable, whether in where they play, or how they play, and someone who is constantly open to improving. I think Cash has it in spades.

(Obviously it's a bonus when a player also has ridiculous amounts of natural skill, but I think the buying into Emery's plans 100% and playing whatever role you're given is what's most important.)
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dante Lavelli on August 28, 2023, 10:26:24 AM
Can someone play Footy here so we can hear the alternative view.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on August 28, 2023, 10:43:33 AM
No.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on August 28, 2023, 12:24:34 PM
Can someone play Footy here so we can hear the alternative view.

I agree, I think we need some special insight from someone who has done research to show that Cash lacks the football intelligence to... ah fuck it, that'll do.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: CT Villan on August 28, 2023, 12:32:31 PM
Can someone play Footy here so we can hear the alternative view.

I agree, I think we need some special insight from someone who has done research to show that Cash lacks the football intelligence to... ah fuck it, that'll do.

For a moment there you sounded just like Alfred Hitchcock.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on August 28, 2023, 12:35:24 PM
Can someone play Footy here so we can hear the alternative view.

I agree, I think we need some special insight from someone who has done research to show that Cash lacks the football intelligence to... ah fuck it, that'll do.

For a moment there you sounded just like Alfred Hitchcock.

I had the foresight to know you were going to say that.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: papa lazarou on August 28, 2023, 12:38:31 PM
Matty Cash has made it into Garth Crooks' I've watched Match of The Day and picked eleven players team.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 28, 2023, 02:15:46 PM
Well done Matty.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Axl Rose on August 28, 2023, 02:19:07 PM
No.

😂
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: SamTheMouse on August 28, 2023, 02:49:44 PM
Pleased for him, he's a good lad.

It strikes me that, in days to come when I'm old and doddery, I'll think back to this squad and remember all of the players fondly. It's been years since I've been able to say that.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 28, 2023, 05:15:30 PM
Can someone play Footy here so we can hear the alternative view.

I agree, I think we need some special insight from someone who has done research to show that Cash lacks the football intelligence to... ah fuck it, that'll do.

For a moment there you sounded just like Alfred Hitchcock.

I had the foresight to know you were going to say that.

I'd developed my theories long before you posted.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Astnor on August 29, 2023, 05:51:45 PM
Can someone play Footy here so we can hear the alternative view.
- he seems to having trouble in hitting the ball when he goes for a tackle as a RB.  Most of the time he dosent go for a tackle but seems to try to hinder the winger to go forward by making himself as big stature as possible to make it difficult to go around him but seems to me that he make his stand too far away from the opponent so they go past him anyway.
- he seems to have trouble finding best defensive place as RB in the (high) backline, giving the opposition onsides somtimes, other times to close to Konsa or to far away from the action so there will be trouble cause of it
- not that good header of the ball
- getting stressed with the ball in tight situations so there will be trouble cause of it
- going forward , crossing and shooting - a bit like the great Allan Hutton, good enough these days?
- strong abilities: athleteism, pace and physical strenght ( probl one of the best in PL here)
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Tayls_7 on August 29, 2023, 06:01:24 PM
Can someone play Footy here so we can hear the alternative view.
- he seems to having trouble in hitting the ball when he goes for a tackle as a RB.  Most of the time he dosent go for a tackle but seems to try to hinder the winger to go forward by making himself as big stature as possible to make it difficult to go around him but seems to me that he make his stand too far away from the opponent so they go past him anyway.
- he seems to have trouble finding best defensive place as RB in the (high) backline, giving the opposition onsides somtimes, other times to close to Konsa or to far away from the action so there will be trouble cause of it
- not that good header of the ball
- getting stressed with the ball in tight situations so there will be trouble cause of it
- going forward , crossing and shooting - a bit like the great Allan Hutton, good enough these days?
- strong abilities: athleteism, pace and physical strenght ( probl one of the best in PL here)

You're missing the whole ethos of talking down to your fellow posters.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 30, 2023, 04:50:59 AM
Can someone play Footy here so we can hear the alternative view.
- he seems to having trouble in hitting the ball when he goes for a tackle as a RB.  Most of the time he dosent go for a tackle but seems to try to hinder the winger to go forward by making himself as big stature as possible to make it difficult to go around him but seems to me that he make his stand too far away from the opponent so they go past him anyway.
- he seems to have trouble finding best defensive place as RB in the (high) backline, giving the opposition onsides somtimes, other times to close to Konsa or to far away from the action so there will be trouble cause of it
- not that good header of the ball
- getting stressed with the ball in tight situations so there will be trouble cause of it
- going forward , crossing and shooting - a bit like the great Allan Hutton, good enough these days?
- strong abilities: athleteism, pace and physical strenght ( probl one of the best in PL here)

You're missing the whole ethos of talking down to your fellow posters.
and no mention of the secret deal not to play Ramsey so allowing Cash to play Right Wing.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: chrisw1 on September 25, 2023, 10:56:33 AM
I thought he was excellent against Chelsea.  There was one recovery tackle that was exceptional, he came from miles away.  He looked comfortable on the ball dangerous going forward too.  Need to keep him fit, he's an important player for us now.

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 16, 2023, 06:47:24 PM
He wasn't impressive  against Pharoah Islands and got left on the bench at home to Moldova.

Polish journalist Święcicki said on Cash “We are dealing with a player who has been doing great since the beginning of the season. I cannot understand the fact that in the Polish national team, he falls on the pitch and is unable to create any interesting action.”
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 16, 2023, 06:52:13 PM
Polish journalist Święcicki said on Cash “We are dealing with a player who has been doing great since the beginning of the season. I cannot understand the fact that in the Polish national team, he falls on the pitch and is unable to create any interesting action.”

Cheers, I've always wondered who the Polish equivalent of Garth Crooks was.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Somniloquism on October 16, 2023, 08:29:12 PM
He wasn't impressive  against Pharoah Islands and got left on the bench at home to Moldova.

Polish journalist Święcicki said on Cash “We are dealing with a player who has been doing great since the beginning of the season. I cannot understand the fact that in the Polish national team, he falls on the pitch and is unable to create any interesting action.”

Egyptian-Nordic team I'm guessing? Sven Salah and El-Højlundemay their key stars.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Edvard Remberg on October 19, 2023, 05:43:26 PM
He wasn't impressive  against Pharoah Islands and got left on the bench at home to Moldova.

Polish journalist Święcicki said on Cash “We are dealing with a player who has been doing great since the beginning of the season. I cannot understand the fact that in the Polish national team, he falls on the pitch and is unable to create any interesting action.”

Egyptian-Nordic team I'm guessing? Sven Salah and El-Højlundemay their key stars.
Or the guy giving the penalty away - Oddmar Pharaoh
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 29, 2023, 01:38:08 PM
With Cashy selected today can expecting some maraudering runs and some good overlaps and moves into area.
Hsa good chance of a goals and assists today given Luton's weakness certainly be expected to have some joy in an attacking sense.

Bumped in anticipation for star showing today
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 31, 2023, 02:26:56 PM
Matt Cash was close to an assist for Watkins against Luton, but he was mainly unimpressive, as evidenced by his unnecessary yellow card and was substituted.

To be honest, I was anticipating a much better performance from Cashy, but while other players exploited the left side weakness, MC had an ordinary performance where I was hoping for spectacular.

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 31, 2023, 02:28:03 PM
ah there you go. Matty Cash getting slammed again. Shock horror
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Axl Rose on October 31, 2023, 02:31:35 PM
Matt Cash was close to an assist for Watkins against Luton, but he was mainly unimpressive, as evidenced by his unnecessary yellow card and was substituted.

To be honest, I was anticipating a much better performance from Cashy, but while other players exploited the left side weakness, MC had an ordinary performance where I was hoping for spectacular.



Are you bored, footy?

He's a right back. Nearly got an assist, nearly kept a clean sheet, played well, never looked troubled really.

I'm not sure what you were expecting from him.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 31, 2023, 02:45:51 PM
Yet many have spoken of right back area needing addressing for competition. So hardly. Valid points to give assesments.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on October 31, 2023, 02:48:05 PM
Matt Cash was close to an assist for Watkins against Luton, but he was mainly unimpressive, as evidenced by his unnecessary yellow card and was substituted.

To be honest, I was anticipating a much better performance from Cashy, but while other players exploited the left side weakness, MC had an ordinary performance where I was hoping for spectacular.



Are you bored, footy?

He's a right back. Nearly got an assist, nearly kept a clean sheet, played well,.never looked.troubled really.

I'm not sure what you were expecting from him.

they hadn't scored when Cash went off so he did keep a clean sheet (technically). He also had a couple of other crosses/passes that wouldn't have been assists but would've been crucial in the build up (he was a big part of the one Zaniolo put just wide of the top corner).

After that Luton sat so deep that he had no space to break into and he's not so useful against a very deep defence as his 'skill' is mostly about movement off the ball and breaking in behind the opposition full-back. The yellow card was a bit rash but exactly the sort of professional foul I'd expect as 'taking one for the team' in those circumstances. He went off because the game was all over, Carlos needs minutes and it wasn't worth risking another yellow in a game that was long won.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 01, 2023, 12:07:17 AM
Cash was at the Barnt Green Inn a couple of days ago.

/endeastiemode
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: chrisw1 on November 01, 2023, 12:02:08 PM
I think Cash has been playing really well and am surprised at some negative(ish) comments I see about him.

I always thought he was fairly limited going forward with a lack of end product, but I don't think that's the case this season.  It feels to me like he's making a big contribution to how well we're playing.  In particular, I thought he frightened Zrinjski to death when he came on and was a huge catalyst in that win.

We certainly need more depth - I always hoped KHH would provide this but it seems that's not to be.  But if we do find an upgrade it's going to have to be a hell of a player.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on November 01, 2023, 12:04:08 PM
I think Cash has been playing really well and am surprised at some negative(ish) comments I see about him.

I always thought he was fairly limited going forward with a lack of end product, but I don't think that's the case this season.  It feels to me like he's making a big contribution to how well we're playing.  In particular, I thought he frightened Zrinjski to death when he came on and was a huge catalyst in that win.

We certainly need more depth - I always hoped KHH would provide this but it seems that's not to be.  But if we do find an upgrade it's going to have to be a hell of a player.

Agree completely. He's got an enormous amount of energy, and never gives the opposition a second, whether he's attacking or defending.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Monty on November 01, 2023, 12:04:47 PM
He's not the crispest with the ball at his feet, but he really isn't the worst either. Besides which his energy, willingness to sacrifice for the team and determination to improve tactically have all been crucial for over the last year.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: chrisw1 on November 01, 2023, 12:06:46 PM
I think Cash has been playing really well and am surprised at some negative(ish) comments I see about him.

I always thought he was fairly limited going forward with a lack of end product, but I don't think that's the case this season.  It feels to me like he's making a big contribution to how well we're playing.  In particular, I thought he frightened Zrinjski to death when he came on and was a huge catalyst in that win.

We certainly need more depth - I always hoped KHH would provide this but it seems that's not to be.  But if we do find an upgrade it's going to have to be a hell of a player.

Agree completely. He's got an enormous amount of energy, and never gives the opposition a second, whether he's attacking or defending.
I love it when he charges a player down before they have time to think, he times it brilliantly.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: rooboy316 on November 02, 2023, 09:32:02 AM
He’s a good player, works hard, and seems to have a great attitude. But given he’s our only recognised RB, it makes sense that if we buy anyone as cover, we might get someone who’s an upgrade to keep improving the squad.

One thing that’s annoyed me a little bit lately is that often when he gets the ball, his instinct is to check back as his default body position/movement, which makes it harder to take the game on and drive down the touchline. It’s the kind of thing defensive minded fullbacks do when they don’t have the skill/confidence, which surprises me given he was a winger first.

Small gripe aside, overall he’s been a valuable member of the team and a shrewd purchase.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: AV84 on November 02, 2023, 09:51:36 AM
He’s a good player, works hard, and seems to have a great attitude. But given he’s our only recognised RB, it makes sense that if we buy anyone as cover, we might get someone who’s an upgrade to keep improving the squad.

I'd hope that's the attitude when buying players now. Equal to but preferably better than who is there already. The bare minimum is a backup who steps in and keeps the level consistent. But ideally competition for who is actually "1st choice" in a position.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clark W Griswold on November 02, 2023, 10:09:36 AM
We just need to buy the best player we can get, if he's good enough that he wins the place then great, if not but he's a decent enough covering player so be it. I think Cash is under rated, he's a cracking player and one of the best right backs we've had in the past 35 years along with Price, Barrett and Delaney.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 06, 2023, 08:21:49 AM
Cash's long-term position in the team and ability of football brightness do not convince me.

In previous transfer windows, ITK man John Percy stated that Emery was not entirely sold on his full backs.
Moreno has replaced Digne, and I believe the club will actively look   for a replacement for Cash sooner rather than later.

We need a player  who is more comfortable on the ball, better at defending, and capable of playing the Emery style.
There are advantages to Cash being in the team chiefly his attacking ability and tackling is what he can bring going forward, but against Forest he was clueless, and both of the goals against Forest came from his side of the pitch. I'm suspicious of him.

It was a less than convincing performance that culminated in a possible injury.

Probably a 4 out of 10 maybe 5.
Expect a lot better if he's for for Fulham.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Axl Rose on November 06, 2023, 08:38:46 AM
Cash's long-term position in the team and ability of football brightness do not convince me.

In previous transfer windows, ITK man John Percy stated that Emery was not entirely sold on his full backs.
Moreno has replaced Digne, and I believe the club will actively look   for a replacement for Cash sooner rather than later.

We need a player  who is more comfortable on the ball, better at defending, and capable of playing the Emery style.
There are advantages to Cash being in the team chiefly his attacking ability and tackling is what he can bring going forward, but against Forest he was clueless, and both of the goals against Forest came from his side of the pitch. I'm suspicious of him.

It was a less than convincing performance that culminated in a possible injury.

Probably a 4 out of 10 maybe 5.
Expect a lot better if he's for for Fulham.

And if I was him, I'd be very suspicious of you too, footy.

He wasn't very good yesterday, that's fair enough. None of them were.

I know you love Emery and his ball, mister and all that crap, but you have to understand that Emery loves Cash - plays him almost every match, and he's definitely improved under Emery. As for the Emery style, hasn't Cash been part of that since the beginning?

I say you should trust the ones you love.

I really shouldn't engage with anything you write, as I can't win. If I strike up a conversation, it's like simpleton.com. If I write what I really want to write, and tell you what I think of you and your views, I get told off.

Fucking hell. Fuck life. Hate it when the Villa lose.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on November 06, 2023, 08:48:59 AM
Cash is perfectly fine as as a right back with attacking intentions. He's not fine as an out-and-out winger or wing back. The formation yesterday was a complete mess and contributed to just about every player looking miles below what they're capable of, especially Cash, and that's on the manager.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 06, 2023, 09:41:26 AM
Cash's long-term position in the team and ability of football brightness do not convince me.

In previous transfer windows, ITK man John Percy stated that Emery was not entirely sold on his full backs.
Moreno has replaced Digne, and I believe the club will actively look   for a replacement for Cash sooner rather than later.

We need a player  who is more comfortable on the ball, better at defending, and capable of playing the Emery style.
There are advantages to Cash being in the team chiefly his attacking ability and tackling is what he can bring going forward, but against Forest he was clueless, and both of the goals against Forest came from his side of the pitch. I'm suspicious of him.

It was a less than convincing performance that culminated in a possible injury.

Probably a 4 out of 10 maybe 5.
Expect a lot better if he's for for Fulham.

And if I was him, I'd be very suspicious of you too, footy.

He wasn't very good yesterday, that's fair enough. None of them were.

I know you love Emery and his ball, mister and all that crap, but you have to understand that Emery loves Cash - plays him almost every match, and he's definitely improved under Emery. As for the Emery style, hasn't Cash been part of that since the beginning?

I say you should trust the ones you love.

I really shouldn't engage with anything you write, as I can't win. If I strike up a conversation, it's like simpleton.com. If I write what I really want to write, and tell you what I think of you and your views, I get told off.

Fucking hell. Fuck life. Hate it when the Villa lose.
Well yes opportunities lost and it's a more than a bit annoying losing yesterday! I agree whole heartedly there.

Cash is not a bad player at all.
It's just that he's been exposed in the system at times and with some of tactics
People are free to express their opinions, ideas, or thoughts in whatever way they see fit.
I can agree to disagree and recognise all of the benefits of what you or others say about Cash in the team.  My main argument is in order to progress, we must look at what has to be improved.
It's simple to praise, but when we provide a critical eye, we all learn something.

Cashy is learning and had some excellent showings. Burnley away was a complete contrast to Forest and perhaps the occasion got to him because we haven't seen him this terrible in a long time.
Of course the contrast between the performance between Burnley and Forest is staggering but that's contextual due to Forest set up defensively compared to Kompany Burnleys style
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 06, 2023, 09:52:48 AM
Cash is perfectly fine as as a right back with attacking intentions. He's not fine as an out-and-out winger or wing back. The formation yesterday was a complete mess and contributed to just about every player looking miles below what they're capable of, especially Cash, and that's on the manager.
What was the formation? it was difficult to tell on the tele.
Our midfield seemed all over the place, Cash was double teamed yet Digne had the freedom of the park.
We just seemed to move the ball too slow, was the pitch a bit shit.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on November 06, 2023, 09:56:53 AM
Cash is perfectly fine as as a right back with attacking intentions. He's not fine as an out-and-out winger or wing back. The formation yesterday was a complete mess and contributed to just about every player looking miles below what they're capable of, especially Cash, and that's on the manager.
What was the formation? it was difficult to tell on the tele.
Our midfield seemed all over the place, Cash was double teamed yet Digne had the freedom of the park.
We just seemed to move the ball too slow, was the pitch a bit shit.

Luiz and Kamara played like they'd been sharing a joint before game.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on November 06, 2023, 10:02:34 AM
Nothing wrong with the pitch that I could see. The formation was mostly a poorly executed 3-5-2, with Kamara dropping into the back three and Cash playing almost entirely on the wing. Cash didn't attempt to beat a Forest player once, and took the easy pass back to Kamara every single time. Neither Cash or Kamara were comfortable in the position which is why we kept getting beaten for pace down our right hand side. McGinn looked like he was trying to support the attack so Luiz was left with most of the defensive responsibility on his own, and he looked poor as well as a result.

Honestly, it was an absolute dog's dinner, and I can't for the life of me see why it was needed, and it was rightly binned off at the start of the second half. But then we went 2-0 down, and any semblance of organisation or good play disappeared completely, and we resorted to ridiculous sideways passing culminating in hit and hope Tonev-style shots miles over the bar.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Martyn Smith on November 08, 2023, 03:15:42 PM
Right back is probably the area we most need to strengthen in January IMV
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Neil Hawkes on November 09, 2023, 08:52:53 AM
Nothing wrong with the pitch that I could see.

Although I did notice the large distance between the sidelines and the edge of the turf; is it one of the narrowest in the league?

This would certainly help them defend against wingers trying to drag defenders out towards the sides, as they can stay more condensed/central without worrying too much about an overlap.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 09, 2023, 09:00:40 AM
Nothing wrong with the pitch that I could see. The formation was mostly a poorly executed 3-5-2, with Kamara dropping into the back three and Cash playing almost entirely on the wing. Cash didn't attempt to beat a Forest player once, and took the easy pass back to Kamara every single time. Neither Cash or Kamara were comfortable in the position which is why we kept getting beaten for pace down our right hand side. McGinn looked like he was trying to support the attack so Luiz was left with most of the defensive responsibility on his own, and he looked poor as well as a result.

Honestly, it was an absolute dog's dinner, and I can't for the life of me see why it was needed, and it was rightly binned off at the start of the second half. But then we went 2-0 down, and any semblance of organisation or good play disappeared completely, and we resorted to ridiculous sideways passing culminating in hit and hope Tonev-style shots miles over the bar.
The midfield looked so spread and totally isolated, what you describe explains it. We normally control the midfield but that means that they are co-ordinated and a lot closer to each other.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Bad English on November 09, 2023, 08:05:00 PM
Mach Tasty is an anagram of Matty Cash.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: rooboy316 on November 12, 2023, 10:21:18 PM
Really defensively sound today, with a couple of great tackles thrown in. Kudos to him!

There was one lunging tackle late in the game when he started feeling his right hamstring. Seemed more like cramps than anything else as he ran it off, but the thought did cross my mind. If he misses a few weeks at some stage, particularly over in the busy December period, it'd have a big impact on how we play.

A right sided Moreno in the Jan window please, Monchi.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ian. on November 12, 2023, 10:32:19 PM
That tackle just before SJM scored was brilliant and was as important as the goal in many ways. Superb today.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Astnor on November 12, 2023, 10:50:16 PM
Not many that split opinions as much as MC do on here.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: nodge on November 12, 2023, 11:01:46 PM
That tackle just before SJM scored was brilliant and was as important as the goal in many ways. Superb today.

That tackle got nearly as big a cheer as the goal did.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 13, 2023, 07:05:46 AM
That tackle just before SJM scored was brilliant and was as important as the goal in many ways. Superb today.

It was magnificent, the moment of the game for me the goals apart.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Axl Rose on November 13, 2023, 07:22:40 AM
I really like Cash.

Not the most interesting admission, I know, but he's been an absolute bargain for us.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ian. on November 13, 2023, 07:54:39 AM
I was surprised they never highlighted it on MOTD, it was such a crucial moment in the game, a brilliantly timed tackle as well as leading to the goal.

I agree Axl, he’s been a great signing.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on November 13, 2023, 08:46:15 AM
Was caught flat-footed for their goal, I thought, as our high line failed.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on November 13, 2023, 09:47:26 AM
Was caught flat-footed for their goal, I thought, as our high line failed.

I don't think that's fair. Playing a high-line and catching players offside means you have to be willing to let them run without shadowing them immediately. The reward is that you become the team that wins the most offsides (58 with Tottenham being 2nd with 38) but the risk is that every now and then you'll give someone a free run on your keeper.

For me the goal was 100% down to our midfield being knackered. The high-line becomes exposed if you give players the space to time their pass in behind. If they're under pressure they're much more likely to go early (and we have time to cover) or late (and they're offside).

I don't think any specific player was at fault really, it was just the one clear time where you could see the thursday-sunday schedule having an impact.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: brontebilly on November 13, 2023, 10:54:22 AM
Was caught flat-footed for their goal, I thought, as our high line failed.

I don't think that's fair. Playing a high-line and catching players offside means you have to be willing to let them run without shadowing them immediately. The reward is that you become the team that wins the most offsides (58 with Tottenham being 2nd with 38) but the risk is that every now and then you'll give someone a free run on your keeper.

For me the goal was 100% down to our midfield being knackered. The high-line becomes exposed if you give players the space to time their pass in behind. If they're under pressure they're much more likely to go early (and we have time to cover) or late (and they're offside).

I don't think any specific player was at fault really, it was just the one clear time where you could see the thursday-sunday schedule having an impact.

Konsa was at fault for me. Think he got stuck in two minds whether to pick up the runner or win the ball in the air. In the end he did neither and misjudged the flight of the ball. Really poor goal to concede. Thought he had a poor second half in truth. Both he and Torres were fortunate to get away with abysmal defending at start of second half. Kamara didn't provide much cover for them either and Bassey beat Watkins in nearly every duel. Definitely not our best performance, against a very limited opponent. Scoreline flattered us a bit, even allowing for Watkins missing a complete sitter.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 16, 2023, 12:55:46 AM
Matty Cash has withdrawn with injury from the Poland squad. Perhaps getting some recovery in and getting a rest.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Villafirst on November 16, 2023, 11:38:35 AM
Matty Cash has withdrawn with injury from the Poland squad. Perhaps getting some recovery in and getting a rest.

Yes  apparently he's still got a shoulder issue. Hopefully just precautionary. I think we still need a specialist right-back for cover. We didn't replace Ashley Young.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: olaftab on November 16, 2023, 12:00:32 PM

For me the goal was 100% down to our midfield being knackered. The high-line becomes exposed if you give players the space to time their pass in behind. If they're under pressure they're much more likely to go early (and we have time to cover) or late (and they're offside).

Yes absolutely. Both Douglas and Boubacar were floundering and maybe should have been replaced. But you can't have everything in life, as again we scored 3. 
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: OCD on November 16, 2023, 12:25:36 PM
He was struggling with his shoulder in a recent game, the Forest game maybe?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: UK Redsox on November 16, 2023, 12:28:31 PM
Having someone else take the throw ins would help ease pressure on his shoulder
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on November 16, 2023, 12:59:54 PM
Having someone else take the throw ins would help ease pressure on his shoulder

Do you still sit next to the dug-out? Might be an idea to volunteer...
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 26, 2023, 06:43:17 PM
Could he have been sent off? before being hauled off at halftime.
It seemed like a ridiculous tackle to me on Rodrigo Bentancur.
It came after the VAR disallowed Watkins goal, but even so, he shouldn't let such frustration get the better of him.

Football intelligent lacking again from the positions taken up and then he shows ill discipline. Didn't seem to help Konsa on the right side of defence or Diaby and Watkins in attack.
4 yellows this season, one from suspension, and with 4 games in 10 days coming up he's hindered things.
Come transfer Window will we see some one come to compete in his role?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on November 26, 2023, 06:46:01 PM
He's a very good right back, who routinely puts in 7/10 performances. He's an awful wide player, and when he's out wide its more like 3 or 4 out of 10.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: VillaTim on November 26, 2023, 06:51:09 PM
Great tackle today , just slightly mistimed . I've 100% seen worse from the Romero's of this world
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: olaftab on November 26, 2023, 06:52:19 PM
Matty changed the game for us with his first half intervention😉
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on November 26, 2023, 06:55:33 PM
Could he have been sent off? before being hauled off at halftime.
It seemed like a ridiculous tackle to me on Rodrigo Bentancur.
It came after the VAR disallowed Watkins goal, but even so, he shouldn't let such frustration get the better of him.

Football intelligent lacking again from the positions taken up and then he shows ill discipline. Didn't seem to help Konsa on the right side of defence or Diaby and Watkins in attack.
4 yellows this season, one from suspension, and with 4 games in 10 days coming up he's hindered things.
Come transfer Window will we see some one come to compete in his role?

No, there is absolutely no way any ref that knows what they're doing gives that as a red, it was almost a perfect example of what a yellow card challenge looks like.

As Risso said he just isn't a wide midfielder, his positioning there is all over the place and he ends up being less effective going forward because he get ahead of the ball and has to come back with it, which completely nullifies the best thing about his game which is his ability to time a run in behind a fullback.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 26, 2023, 06:58:26 PM
Great tackle today , just slightly mistimed . I've 100% seen worse from the Romero's of this world
Can't agree on being a great tackle but Cashy is not a brute. Usually tackling is a strong point and main strength of his.
Yeah great point on seeing worse though like of Romeo who makes a career of it.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: danno on November 26, 2023, 07:02:34 PM
Deserved yellow but nothing malicious.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Small Rodent on November 26, 2023, 07:06:46 PM
Great tackle today , just slightly mistimed . I've 100% seen worse from the Romero's of this world
Can't agree on being a great tackle but Cashy is not a brute. Usually tackling is a strong point and main strength of his.
Yeah great point on seeing worse though like of Romeo who makes a career of it.

Piss off ChatGp
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: olaftab on November 26, 2023, 07:56:14 PM
Their fans also seem to forget that Betancur is made of glass. Has spent most of his Spuds career being injured.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dave on November 26, 2023, 09:28:25 PM
Great tackle today , just slightly mistimed . I've 100% seen worse from the Romero's of this world
Can't agree on being a great tackle but Cashy is not a brute. Usually tackling is a strong point and main strength of his.
Yeah great point on seeing worse though like of Romeo who makes a career of it.

Piss off ChatGp

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Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on November 26, 2023, 09:42:55 PM
Great tackle today , just slightly mistimed . I've 100% seen worse from the Romero's of this world
Can't agree on being a great tackle but Cashy is not a brute. Usually tackling is a strong point and main strength of his.
Yeah great point on seeing worse though like of Romeo who makes a career of it.

Piss off ChatGp
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Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Steve67 on November 26, 2023, 10:15:08 PM
Cash's tackle was simply mistimed and wasn't that bad at all.  If Bentancur wasn't made of eggs, he wouldn't have had to go off.  I thought Cash was crap today and was a red card walking more because the referee was a homer. 
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Aldridge Villa on November 26, 2023, 10:23:34 PM
Irrespective of the “merits” of his tackle, a right sided attacking midfielder he is not. I trust he never has to audition for that particular role again.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: VillaTim on November 26, 2023, 10:26:26 PM
it was not a dangerous tackle . Mis-timed yes, dangerous no.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dave on November 26, 2023, 10:28:48 PM
Irrespective of the “merits” of his tackle, a right sided attacking midfielder he is not. I trust he never has to audition for that particular role again.

Not sure. Definitely wasn't right today, but he was great against Burnley and him coming on in that position is what got us the win against Zrinjski.

Possibly a thing when we have more of the ball rather than the first half today.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Monty on November 26, 2023, 10:33:40 PM
Irrespective of the “merits” of his tackle, a right sided attacking midfielder he is not. I trust he never has to audition for that particular role again.

Not sure. Definitely wasn't right today, but he was great against Burnley and him coming on in that position is what got us the win against Zrinjski.

Possibly a thing when we have more of the ball rather than the first half today.

Yeah he's good when he's just making the runs, doing the byline stuff, pressing the ball high and so on, rather than having to get involved in the intricate midfield war for possession. He'll have better days.

On the challenge, well, all football challenges are somewhat dangerous as players can get injured from virtually anything. The question is, was it criminally reckless, so to speak? I don't think so. Just a desperate and rather shit attempt. Got the yellow it deserved.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: OCD on November 27, 2023, 11:20:16 AM
Some of the post-match Spurs reaction to the tackle has been so over for the tackle for what it was. As said above, clear yellow card but no more than that.

I hope we line up more like we did in the second half in away games than how we did in the first half. I thought that was Bailey's best away game to date and I liked Tielemans off Watkins.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on November 27, 2023, 11:24:02 AM
I saw the most disgraceful and bizarre Twitter post from a Spurs fan after the match. He's since deleted his account.

Basically along the lines of being happy that Cash's great grandparents died in the Holocaust. I mean WTF?!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on November 27, 2023, 11:52:54 AM
I saw the most disgraceful and bizarre Twitter post from a Spurs fan after the match. He's since deleted his account.

Basically along the lines of being happy that Cash's great grandparents died in the Holocaust. I mean WTF?!

I saw that, horrendous. Also loads about wishing him a career-ending injury. What on earth is up with some people?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on November 27, 2023, 01:09:03 PM
I saw the most disgraceful and bizarre Twitter post from a Spurs fan after the match. He's since deleted his account.

Basically along the lines of being happy that Cash's great grandparents died in the Holocaust. I mean WTF?!

I saw that, horrendous. Also loads about wishing him a career-ending injury. What on earth is up with some people?

I mean we all get emotional and can be a bit over the top sometimes, but that sort of thing just beggars belief.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on November 27, 2023, 01:14:14 PM
Some people are just dreadful human beings.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pablo_picasso on November 27, 2023, 01:49:01 PM
Some of the post-match Spurs reaction to the tackle has been so over for the tackle for what it was. As said above, clear yellow card but no more than that.

I hope we line up more like we did in the second half in away games than how we did in the first half. I thought that was Bailey's best away game to date and I liked Tielemans off Watkins.

The way they were talking yesterday & the way some Spurs idiots are talking today is that Cash deserved more than the yellow & it was a worse challenge because one, they have so many injuries, & two, Bentacur wasn't fully fit after coming back from an injury.

These are genuine reasons why Cash has had stupid abuse for a standard late tackle that happens in every game, every week, which deserved a yellow & hardly a mention after that.

My responses to that are fuck your injuries that you have had for all of three games. We have missed four or five all season & got on with it to be sitting in fourth.

And secondly, fuck your team selection. If Bentancur wasn't fit then he shouldn't have been on the field & the bloke who came on to replace him should have started.

They gambled with his selection & it backfired.

But they made the choice to play him while not being fully fit so can blame nobody but themselves...

And as someone mentioned above, they want to go & watch Romero constantly go through the ball to "leave one on" an opponent.

And listen for their cheers when he does that...
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: chrisw1 on November 27, 2023, 02:11:44 PM
The Cash challenge was cynical and clumsy.  I'd be pissed off if one of our players was injured from that.  But it's the sort of challenge you see every single week and the Spurs fans reaction has been massively OTT. 

Part of the problem is they see the Doherty challenge from last season the same way we see the Mee tackle on Wes.  It wasn't as bad, but the still shot looks nasty.  So they've already marked his card.  If Mee kicked Ramsey out the game after he'd just come back I'd expect a similar meltdown on Villa Twitter I guess.

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on November 27, 2023, 02:25:28 PM
I was so annoyed with the grief Cash was getting after the Doherty tackle last season that I did this:

https://streamable.com/fgv3ig

You can see that he wins the ball from a standing position, and isn't remotely steaming in.  Spurs fans are a load of know-nothing fannies.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on November 27, 2023, 02:28:37 PM
Yeah I had to go back and watch that one again because Chris compared it to the Mee tackle and I thought I must've misremembered a fairly mundane tackle.

If they honestly see that as some sort of assault then I can only assume they play with netball rules most of the time.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dave on November 27, 2023, 02:40:00 PM
Blimey, that's it?

Shame for Doherty that he got injured, but it would be a bit like us wetting our pants about Alexander Isak because he happened to be involved when Mings got injured.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on November 27, 2023, 02:41:58 PM
Blimey, that's it?

Shame for Doherty that he got injured, but it would be a bit like us wetting our pants about Alexander Isak because he happened to be involved when Mings got injured.

I was just about to make the same point about Mings. He's out for the season, but the injury sustained doesn't mean that Isak is a dirty bastard who needs to have a nasty injury himself.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: chrisw1 on November 27, 2023, 02:44:54 PM
Yeah I had to go back and watch that one again because Chris compared it to the Mee tackle and I thought I must've misremembered a fairly mundane tackle.

If they honestly see that as some sort of assault then I can only assume they play with netball rules most of the time.
The still looks really bad and that's what they go from.  I agree it's nowhere near as bad as the Mee tackle, but the Spurs fans think it is.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Mister E on November 27, 2023, 02:48:44 PM
... Basically along the lines of being happy that Cash's great grandparents died in the Holocaust. I mean WTF?!
... And from a fan of a club whose fans call themselves the Yid Army. It beggars belief.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on November 27, 2023, 05:24:51 PM
Blimey, that's it?

Shame for Doherty that he got injured, but it would be a bit like us wetting our pants about Alexander Isak because he happened to be involved when Mings got injured.

I was just about to make the same point about Mings. He's out for the season, but the injury sustained doesn't mean that Isak is a dirty bastard who needs to have a nasty injury himself.

Fuck that, Isaak needs to be hung drawn and quartered after he's been tarred and feathered...
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 28, 2023, 06:59:17 PM
Bentancur out for at least 10 weeks with torn ankle ligaments, Matty Cash trending on X.....you can guess the rest.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 28, 2023, 07:52:39 PM
It was a poor challenge, that warranted a yellow, and the outcome is unfortunate but that’s it. I feel sorry for Bentancur, and hope he recovers soon, but it’s not a red.

As for those comments on X, those “people” are just beyond reason/understanding.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Beard82 on November 28, 2023, 07:55:13 PM
What an over reaction - Im sure Cash is gutted he injured someone - as I am sure most professionals are.

But christ - the reaction has been absolutely disgusting
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: RamboandBruno on November 28, 2023, 08:07:03 PM
What an over reaction - Im sure Cash is gutted he injured someone - as I am sure most professionals are.

But christ - the reaction has been absolutely disgusting

You honestly see challenges like that in my sons under 14 Sunday football league every week. JFC
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Rigadon on November 28, 2023, 08:16:20 PM
What an over reaction - Im sure Cash is gutted he injured someone - as I am sure most professionals are.

But christ - the reaction has been absolutely disgusting

You honestly see challenges like that in my sons under 14 Sunday football league every week. JFC

And in every single premier league game.  It's OTT in the extreme the amount of flack Cash has got. 
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Beard82 on November 28, 2023, 08:20:10 PM
What an over reaction - Im sure Cash is gutted he injured someone - as I am sure most professionals are.

But christ - the reaction has been absolutely disgusting

You honestly see challenges like that in my sons under 14 Sunday football league every week. JFC

And in every single premier league game.  It's OTT in the extreme the amount of flack Cash has got.
Its unreal, and Jamie O'Hara needs to have a proper look at himself for getting involved.  I mean Spurs fans making Nazi references shows a complete lack of self-awareness, beyond just being tasteless in the extreme.  I do spend more time than I should on X but have never seen over-reactions like this (in football at least). 
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dave on November 28, 2023, 08:23:58 PM
What an over reaction - Im sure Cash is gutted he injured someone - as I am sure most professionals are.

But christ - the reaction has been absolutely disgusting

You honestly see challenges like that in my sons under 14 Sunday football league every week. JFC

And in every single premier league game.  It's OTT in the extreme the amount of flack Cash has got.

Is there much being made of it outside Tottenham social media?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Beard82 on November 28, 2023, 08:27:33 PM
What an over reaction - Im sure Cash is gutted he injured someone - as I am sure most professionals are.

But christ - the reaction has been absolutely disgusting

You honestly see challenges like that in my sons under 14 Sunday football league every week. JFC

And in every single premier league game.  It's OTT in the extreme the amount of flack Cash has got.

Is there much being made of it outside Tottenham social media?
Talk sport a little and that Fabrizo guy did a post for him
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 28, 2023, 08:52:49 PM
Blimey, that's it?

Shame for Doherty that he got injured, but it would be a bit like us wetting our pants about Alexander Isak because he happened to be involved when Mings got injured.

I was just about to make the same point about Mings. He's out for the season, but the injury sustained doesn't mean that Isak is a dirty bastard who needs to have a nasty injury himself.

I blame more the stupid raising the flag late for offside rule than Isak.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: BC Villain on November 28, 2023, 08:53:14 PM
What a classy tweet from one professional about another.


(https://i.ibb.co/z6rtWRw/Screenshot-20231128-205057-X.jpg) (https://ibb.co/z6rtWRw)
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 28, 2023, 08:53:28 PM
Isak did absolutely nothing wrong in the Mings injury.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 28, 2023, 08:55:44 PM
What a classy tweet from one professional about another.


(https://i.ibb.co/z6rtWRw/Screenshot-20231128-205057-X.jpg) (https://ibb.co/z6rtWRw)


I’m surprised he knows enough words to write a tweet.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Richard E on November 28, 2023, 08:57:13 PM
Matty Cash has been arrested this evening on suspicion of the murder of Terry Venables.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Pete3206 on November 28, 2023, 08:58:50 PM
It was a reckless challenge and I'm sure we'd be fuming if it was the other way round.

Also, who the fuck is Jamie O'hara?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on November 28, 2023, 09:01:10 PM
What a classy tweet from one professional about another.


(https://i.ibb.co/z6rtWRw/Screenshot-20231128-205057-X.jpg) (https://ibb.co/z6rtWRw)


We'll remember another three points no doubt.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 28, 2023, 09:02:59 PM
O'Hardon.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 28, 2023, 09:04:42 PM
It was a reckless challenge and I'm sure we'd be fuming if it was the other way round.

Also, who the fuck is Jamie O'hara?

Annoyed about the injury yes - I’d hope former Villa players weren’t inciting retribution though and we wouldn’t have moronic scum linking back to the holocaust.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: garyellis on November 28, 2023, 09:06:12 PM
And how many injuries that have ruined careers have we had over the years?
Many due to bad tackles and some to rash challenges
I’d put Matty’s in the latter category.
I feel for Bentancur he’s been unlucky with injuries but fuck Spurs and there media fuck buddies
End of rant
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on November 28, 2023, 09:06:13 PM
Their whinging post match would have determined as a Villa player to absolutely kick the living shit out them when we next play to give them something to really moan about.

They also seem to forget they employ Cristian Romero who is a genuinely nasty little thug. And he's shit.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 28, 2023, 09:10:39 PM
For context, Matty Cash is being threatened by this lot

https://x.com/jr9gd/status/1729560017760637379?s=46
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: garyellis on November 28, 2023, 09:13:14 PM
For context, Matty Cash is being threatened by this lot

https://x.com/jr9gd/status/1729560017760637379?s=46
Let’s be thankful they are all locked away at 7pm every night
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 28, 2023, 09:16:15 PM
For context, Matty Cash is being threatened by this lot

https://x.com/jr9gd/status/1729560017760637379?s=46

Makes "You're getting mauled by the Tigers" look scary.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pablo_picasso on November 28, 2023, 09:36:32 PM
My mate just text me calling Cash's challenge a disgrace & telling me how ankle ligament injuries work.

Then says, "it wasn't deserving of a red, but he's a ******".

So basically, we agree that it was a poor challenge & it deserved a yellow & nothing more.

So why the vitriol?

Other than disappointment that their manager mismanaged Bentancurs return to the first team when Hojlberg was sat on the bench...
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on November 28, 2023, 09:43:18 PM
Hojberg was much better than Bentacur when he came on!
Tossers!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 28, 2023, 10:31:36 PM
Hojberg was much better than Bentacur when he came on!
Tossers!

Amen!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Steve67 on November 28, 2023, 10:41:04 PM
Bentancur is made of eggshells and Jamie O'Hara, the fat twunt, is guilty of incitement with those comments.  Thanks for the points Tottenham, quite easy in the end.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: VILLA MOLE on November 28, 2023, 10:47:37 PM
Ohara is as thick as a whale omelette. Another one who i don’t know how he gets a gig , even if it is late night
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Villafirst on November 28, 2023, 10:48:39 PM
What about that awful challenge by Doucoure of Palace on Boubacar Kamara last season at VP? Bouba was out for several weeks after that tackle. That's football, get on with it ffs!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Percy McCarthy on November 28, 2023, 10:59:58 PM
He's a very good right back, who routinely puts in 7/10 performances. He's an awful wide player, and when he's out wide its more like 3 or 4 out of 10.

I said after the Wolves 1-1 at home in January, he doesn’t seem to understand the position, where he should be etc.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Somniloquism on November 28, 2023, 11:45:24 PM
Matty Cash has been arrested this evening on suspicion of the murder of Terry Venables.

I had heard he was Cash's fault Lawrence Fox didn't get the Batman gig.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 29, 2023, 01:09:14 AM
Matty Cash has been arrested this evening on suspicion of the murder of Terry Venables.

I had heard he was Cash's fault Lawrence Fox didn't get the Batman gig.

He’ll be hauled before… not the FA but a Select Committee for starting the violence in Sunday’s hate marches.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Axl Begonia on November 29, 2023, 09:53:14 AM
For context, Matty Cash is being threatened by this lot

https://x.com/jr9gd/status/1729560017760637379?s=46

Interesting boring fact about this video, is that it was filmed on location in Selly Oak park.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: astonvilla82 on November 29, 2023, 09:04:33 PM
For context, Matty Cash is being threatened by this lot

https://x.com/jr9gd/status/1729560017760637379?s=46
He's got it in for Tottenham players because he used to support the Arsenal is the latest theory

Interesting boring fact about this video, is that it was filmed on location in Selly Oak park.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Somniloquism on November 29, 2023, 09:10:53 PM
Matty Cash has been arrested this evening on suspicion of the murder of Terry Venables.

I had heard he was Cash's fault Lawrence Fox didn't get the Batman gig.

He’ll be hauled before… not the FA but a Select Committee for starting the violence in Sunday’s hate marches.

I heard Matty Cash was spotted on the same tube carriage Susan Hall was on when she was mugged violently.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 29, 2023, 09:14:25 PM
New theories suggest that JFK was in fact assinated by Matty Cash and he's in the frame for being Jack the Ripper.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Richard E on November 29, 2023, 09:27:51 PM
Matty Cash did 9/11
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: stevo_st on November 29, 2023, 09:33:00 PM
Matty Cash was the reason why Barry didn’t take the penalty
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dave on November 29, 2023, 09:33:15 PM
Matty Cash did 9/11

It's not the silliest 9/11 conspiracy theory we've had on these pages over the decades.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Cliftonville Villlain on November 29, 2023, 09:33:32 PM
Have detested Spurs ever since they came to Villa Park in 93 during the title run-in and defended as if their lives depended on it. For no reason whatsoever. Fuck them and their pathetic, delusional fan base and no matter how gleaming their new stadium is, it still houses shit. Apparently Romero is gonna seek retribution in March. Can't wait. Suspect at least 5 or 6 Villa players will be showing studs before he even gets near Matty Cash.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Richard E on November 29, 2023, 09:37:20 PM
We’ll already be champions by the time we play them in March so Unai will play the kids.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Somniloquism on November 29, 2023, 10:02:17 PM
Have detested Spurs ever since they came to Villa Park in 93 during the title run-in and defended as if their lives depended on it. For no reason whatsoever. Fuck them and their pathetic, delusional fan base and no matter how gleaming their new stadium is, it still houses shit. Apparently Romero is gonna seek retribution in March. Can't wait. Suspect at least 5 or 6 Villa players will be showing studs before he even gets near Matty Cash.

Romero probably be on another suspension by then anyway, but I would be concerned if Cash is starting matches in March as it might mean we still haven't bought in a RB in Jan.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: astonvilla82 on November 29, 2023, 10:36:25 PM
Latest theory is that he supported the arsenal, that's why he clattered the Spurs players
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: stevo_st on November 29, 2023, 11:01:37 PM
I thought it was his knee he caught, or upper thigh, didn’t see any contact in the ankle.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dave on November 29, 2023, 11:13:52 PM
I thought it was his knee he caught, or upper thigh, didn’t see any contact in the ankle.

Looked like a pretty bog standard smash to the shin I thought.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Pat McMahon on November 30, 2023, 12:07:06 AM
I thought it was his knee he caught, or upper thigh, didn’t see any contact in the ankle.

Looked like a pretty bog standard smash to the shin I thought.

Same here - i assumed in the ground that his shin pads had prevented any serious damage.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: IFWaters on November 30, 2023, 05:46:24 AM
For context, Matty Cash is being threatened by this lot

https://x.com/jr9gd/status/1729560017760637379?s=46

Interesting boring fact about this video, is that it was filmed on location in Selly Oak park.
what a bunch of sad wankers
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pablo_picasso on November 30, 2023, 09:23:15 AM
Have detested Spurs ever since they came to Villa Park in 93 during the title run-in and defended as if their lives depended on it. For no reason whatsoever. Fuck them and their pathetic, delusional fan base and no matter how gleaming their new stadium is, it still houses shit.[/i] Apparently Romero is gonna seek retribution in March. Can't wait. Suspect at least 5 or 6 Villa players will be showing studs before he even gets near Matty Cash.

Which is appropriate considering its birds eye view is in the shape of a toilet...
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pablo_picasso on November 30, 2023, 09:25:01 AM
I thought it was his knee he caught, or upper thigh, didn’t see any contact in the ankle.

Looked like a pretty bog standard smash to the shin I thought.

Same here.

I was surprised when my mate said it was an ankle ligament injury.

Although those are easy enough to do.

Lost count the amount of times that my ankles have turned over, sometimes with no contact at all, during my playing days...
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on November 30, 2023, 10:39:46 AM
You can make the word "Hamas" from Matty Cash's name. Is there no end to the lengths this talentless thug won't sink to?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on November 30, 2023, 10:50:42 AM
He turned me into a Newt.

I got better.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PeterWithe on November 30, 2023, 10:55:34 AM
For context, Matty Cash is being threatened by this lot

https://x.com/jr9gd/status/1729560017760637379?s=46

Interesting boring fact about this video, is that it was filmed on location in Selly Oak park.

That's the kind of inane contribution that brings absolutely nothing to the thread or site.

Welcome brother, you'll fit right in.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clark W Griswold on November 30, 2023, 10:59:44 AM
For context, Matty Cash is being threatened by this lot

https://x.com/jr9gd/status/1729560017760637379?s=46

Interesting boring fact about this video, is that it was filmed on location in Selly Oak park.

I can't open the vid here, but i've now got it in my head that it's a fearsome crew of mallard ducks.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PeterWithe on November 30, 2023, 11:07:09 AM
What are they saying, I cant make it out?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 30, 2023, 11:11:26 AM
What are they saying, I cant make it out?
you've just got Kane
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Hookeysmith on November 30, 2023, 11:34:23 AM
What are they saying, I cant make it out?
you've just got Kane

I thought it was "we have small penesis"
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on November 30, 2023, 11:45:32 AM
You can make the word "Hamas" from Matty Cash's name. Is there no end to the lengths this talentless thug won't sink to?

Matty Cash's career rises as Jeremy Corbyn's stalls. Coincidence? Wake up sheeple.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: SaddVillan on December 05, 2023, 09:10:49 AM
From The Athletic

CASH HAS PROVED HIMSRLF CAPABLE - BUT ASTON VILLA MAY STILL  NEED ANOTHER RIGHT-BACK

Unai Emery was a left midfielder during his playing days, a career which mainly lurched between the second and third divisions of Spain; solid, but low-key. He was technically sound, as you expect Spanish players of his stature — 5ft 11in (180cm) — but he was mainly diligent in his duties, including defensive work.

There are similarities with one of the players he now manages at Aston Villa, Matty Cash, who has operated at a higher level for longer than his 52-year-old coach ever did but, who, like Emery, does not necessarily possess game-changing talent and instead has had to lean on work rate and his ability to learn.

However, what Emery has recognised in Cash is malleability. He sees a player waiting, needing to be pushed through his current ceiling. In preparation for the trip to Burnley in August, Emery spent time watching footage of Cash, now a right-back, playing on the wing for his previous club Nottingham Forest over three years ago.

Back then, Cash was given greater licence, operating in more advanced positions, engendering strengths that were perhaps stymied at right-back. That day against Burnley, Cash played further forward on the right wing, producing arguably his best performance since joining Villa from Forest three years earlier, scoring two and finishing off a flowing 19-pass move.

While managing Spain’s Sevilla, Emery deployed Coke — a right-back by trade — slightly further forward in matches when he expected his team would need to withstand pressure. He notably did this in the 2016 Europa League final against Liverpool, when Coke played on the right wing with right-back Mariano behind him. “We almost could use him and Mariano as right-backs,” Emery explained after.

For the same reason, the Spaniard sees value in Cash, challenging him to grow accustomed to varying roles, such as moonlighting as a third centre-back in possession and as an archetypal right-winger.

Cash has been particularly effective performing his defensive duties of late, understanding the nuances of Villa’s offside trap and ranking in the top nine per cent of full-backs from Europe’s top five leagues for tackles per 90 minutes (2.88). This underlines a distinct improvement in defensive duels.

And while he is not the progressive vehicle Emery wants out of his full-backs — he is in the bottom 30 per cent of full-backs for ball-carrying distance (77.92 metres per 90) and 22 per cent for progressive passes (3.16) — playing higher means Cash is in better positions to “crash the box” as his head coach desires, getting on the end of crosses from the left at the back post. This was an area for improvement which Emery outlined to players in pre-season.

“I like being high up the pitch,” said Cash. “That is what I want to do — keep putting the ball on Ollie (Watkins) or Moussa (Diaby’s) head and create and score goals. But as long as I am playing, I don’t care.”

The 2-2 draw at Bournemouth on Sunday was the first game Cash had begun on the bench in the Premier League this season, having been taken off at half-time the week before away against Tottenham Hotspur. Even if there are gentle signs of him not entirely convincing Emery, he has still featured in all 14 Premier League fixtures this season and played 86 per cent of the available minutes.

Despite his form often being a talking point among supporters, Villa’s recruitment staff were confident enough heading into the campaign that Cash — as the only recognised right-back in the squad after the club decided against renewing Ashley Young’s rolling deal — could adapt to the increasing demands of keeping up with Emery’s project.

Villa’s priority for the summer transfer window was on the opposite side: another left-back in anticipation of needing to replace Lucas Digne — who is among the highest earners in the squad, although he ended up staying — rather than Young, who had been chosen ahead of Cash at times last season as the club’s only other senior right-back.

A shortfall of options at right-back meant that if there was any inconsistency from Cash heading into this campaign then it would require Ezri Konsa, Villa’s best-performing defender, to shift across from centre-back and ostensibly change their build-up structure. The side would then consist of three centre-backs plus Leon Bailey, an improvement going forward but less sturdy defensively, high and wide on the right.

That is becoming the common theme away from Villa Park, with Emery preferring to bring Diego Carlos in at centre-back and move Konsa across onto the right. The change in selection demonstrates a stark difference in style on the road — less free-flowing, more stuttering and with just two clean sheets all season, so far unable to bolt the back line.

“It’s different,” said Konsa. “You’re up against wingers, very good wingers, especially in the Premier League. It’s a challenge. But whenever the gaffer puts me there, I’ll do a job for him.”

Konsa is an excellent one-v-one defender centrally and a proficient reader of play, having drawn the second most fouls of any Villa player last season through his interception-based style. However, as he alluded to, as a centre-back in a full-back role he faces a different threat from wingers, who have more opportunity to drive at him.

Seventy-five per cent of all Bournemouth’s attacks at the weekend came down Konsa’s side, indicating a concerted plan that attempted to take advantage of Villa’s blindspots at right-back.

The January window is now 27 days away and Villa are in a position to address the balance of the squad. A right-back to provide competition and support to Cash may be an increasing priority, especially in a defence as brave in setting offside traps and subsequently increasing the number of one-v-one scenarios they face.

One of Emery’s repeated lines is to be “better than I was yesterday and tomorrow, better than I was today”.

That applies to Cash.

He has made significant progress in grasping the nuances of his coach’s football philosophy, but what could further propel both him and Villa is strengthening at right-back.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: KevinGage on December 05, 2023, 09:39:05 AM
Rather than being a reflection on Mateusz Gotowka's form (who apart from a ropey spell under Carpethead has been solid > decent since arriving in 2020) I'd say the recent rotation is more to do with the volume of games we're due to face.

If we can see Konsa's shortcomings at RB I'm pretty certain Emery can as well. But part of the motivation is possibly to see if Diego Carlos can hack it at centre half and ensuring our best RB isn't burnt out with the workload.

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on December 05, 2023, 09:42:38 AM
Rather than being a reflection on Mateusz Gotowka's form (who apart from a ropey spell under Carpethead has been solid > decent since arriving in 2020) I'd say the recent rotation is more to do with the volume of games we're due to face.

If we can see Konsa's shortcomings at RB I'm pretty certain Emery can as well. But part of the motivation is possibly to see if Diego Carlos can hack it at centre half and ensuring our best RB isn't burnt out with the workload.



It just doesn't work though, Burnley aside. Playing Cash out wide weakens the team in three keys areas.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: brontebilly on December 05, 2023, 03:39:27 PM
Cash is one of those, you notice him more when he isn't there.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Axl Rose on December 06, 2023, 11:23:57 AM
Rather than being a reflection on Mateusz Gotowka's form (who apart from a ropey spell under Carpethead has been solid > decent since arriving in 2020) I'd say the recent rotation is more to do with the volume of games we're due to face.

If we can see Konsa's shortcomings at RB I'm pretty certain Emery can as well. But part of the motivation is possibly to see if Diego Carlos can hack it at centre half and ensuring our best RB isn't burnt out with the workload.



It just doesn't work though, Burnley aside. Playing Cash out wide weakens the team in three keys areas.

It definitely wouldn't be a good idea to play him in that position tonight.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on December 10, 2023, 01:52:29 PM
I honestly think Cash is struggling with the Emery lectures, and what is required.
He's been left out of numerous games in a row lately, and there was a remark about professionalism and thinking about football life off the field. I would think he could be one of those.

I know he wasn't very friendly in what happened with Kady McDermott, and he enjoys being on the circuit and living a lifestyle that may have an affect on his football development.

I'd rather players focused with football. As Emery has said. And it's been reported before by John Percy that Emery had concerns on his full backs including  Cash, and I believe Young and Konsa selected, this season and last , at right back have demonstrated that Cash is a player Emery has not been totally happy with.


Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on December 10, 2023, 01:57:16 PM
Oh don't be silly Footy. He's not started three games, but has come on in all of them, exactly the same as Diaby. Not sure what someone he was supposed to have split up with over two years ago has got to do with anything either.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 10, 2023, 02:13:55 PM
Indeed, seemed fine when he came on yesterday to me.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Lastfootstamper on December 10, 2023, 02:39:33 PM
It's simple arithmetic. We play a lopsided 4. Konsa-Digne gives us more in better balance and attacking options than Cash-??, where ?? is whichever unsuited centre-half you wish to play at leftback.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: not3bad on December 10, 2023, 02:54:12 PM
Cash was solid yesterday and helped us see out the win.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on December 10, 2023, 02:58:37 PM
Well it's all differing views but Emery seems to favour others at the moment.
I think we can all agree there was much disappointment in his performance showing at right midfield Vs Spurs.
That wasn't encouraging that's for sure.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 10, 2023, 03:10:21 PM
You’re making shit up again about Cash. Give it a rest.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on December 10, 2023, 03:16:53 PM
No I'm not but I'm not getting involved.
Anyway there was big speculation in summer we were after Kyle Walker and I think a right back of that style could be well suited to way Emery sets it up.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 10, 2023, 03:34:34 PM
No I'm not but I'm not getting involved.
Anyway there was big speculation in summer we were after Kyle Walker and I think a right back of that style could be well suited to way Emery sets it up.

The speculation came from made up sources like Footy Insider which has no credibility at all. You can link any player to any club without an ounce of truth to it. Doesn’t make it reliable or in any way the truth.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: AV84 on December 10, 2023, 03:38:17 PM
Matty Cash, the poor man's Alisha Lehmann.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on December 10, 2023, 03:51:41 PM
You’re making shit up again about Cash. Give it a rest.

To be fair to Footy, Kady McDermott hanging around BMH might explain your caption competition.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 10, 2023, 03:54:46 PM
You’re making shit up again about Cash. Give it a rest.

To be fair to Footy, Kady McDermott hanging around BMH might explain your caption competition.

Haha fucking influencers.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on December 10, 2023, 03:56:05 PM
Matty Cash, the poor man's Alisha Lehmann.

Does she stand appropriately?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: AV84 on December 10, 2023, 04:00:46 PM
Matty Cash, the poor man's Alisha Lehmann.

Does she stand appropriately?

Don't think the women's team have the same detail oriented coaching staff.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Astnor on December 10, 2023, 04:21:33 PM
You’re making shit up again about Cash. Give it a rest.
What is this? We are supposed to give opinions on here - nothing wrong with his in the post before yours as I can see.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: astonvilla82 on December 10, 2023, 04:25:42 PM
As I haven't a clue about tactics,442,6611,122222 or any other damn formation I am happy to let Emery sort him out as he has done with the other players
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on December 10, 2023, 05:29:52 PM
You’re making shit up again about Cash. Give it a rest.
What is this? We are supposed to give opinions on here - nothing wrong with his in the post before yours as I can see.
Thanks Astnor. It's like I'm being forced to not say my view or not make any criticism against what I see as an underperforming player
 
And TV you're encouraging this site to make up indecent comments on the latest Caption Competition thread. But even if I'm not really wanting the promoting of vulgarity I'm not going to say give it a rest. Some enjoy bawdiness that's their prerogative. Let me have my musings while you have yours.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on December 10, 2023, 05:35:58 PM
Not rating a player or how he's played is one thing. Bringing up his private life is just a bit creepy, unnecessary and very sad.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 10, 2023, 05:40:08 PM
Not rating a player or how he's played is one thing. Bringing up his private life is just a bit creepy, unnecessary and very sad.

All a bit crass. Especially on a Sunday.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on December 11, 2023, 11:01:12 AM
I haven't seen one single comment anywhere about any supposed lack of professionalism on Cash's part, or any reports of his private life interfering with his training. Having a difference of opinion about whether he's good enough is absolutely fine. Making stuff up to back up a negative opinion absolutely isn't.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: OCD on December 11, 2023, 11:35:54 AM
Leaving Cash out seems to be more tactical than anything else.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Monty on December 11, 2023, 11:52:47 AM
Yep, it was an option that Unai clearly had in mind when he brought in Torres, to move Konsa to that right-back-shuffling-central thing with Mings and Pau inside, and now Carlos is finally up to speed to a degree where he can be trusted in the first team. Nothing against Cash, he's the number one option for when we want the right back to stay wider and overlap more.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on December 11, 2023, 11:56:54 AM
Of course it is. I think Emery wanted to make the defence a bit more solid in away games, so tried Ezri at right back and Cash at wide midfield as he still felt he couldn't fully rely on Bailey. Cash at wide right didn't work, but Konsa did a good job at right back, so he kept that defence for arguably the two most difficult home games we'll have all season. Now with Leon looking a lot more consistent, he kept with the same side. I'm absolutely certain Cash will have a huge part to play in the rest of the games this season. He's been out of the starting line ups for the same games Diaby has, and I'm sure Moussa will be back in soon too.

Cash's energy and pace was great when he came on against Arsenal, it was superb game management by Emery.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Monty on December 11, 2023, 12:03:40 PM
Bailey finding joy dropping wide from the forward role combined with Tielemans really knitting the whole right side together really opens up this tactic now. Cash will have his decisive performances this year with other gameplans.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on December 11, 2023, 12:07:37 PM
What we're seeing now is the benefit of the team not almost picking itself for the first time in ages. Emery has now got 15-16 players who are all easily good enough for the first 11, who can all come on as a sub if needed, or play when a match calls for a specific set up. I can easily see one of Cash or Moreno coming in against Brentford to give us a bit more width from the wings for example.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Monty on December 11, 2023, 12:09:57 PM
It's got to the stage where if we lost Watkins even I'd back him to do something about it. Diaby and Bailey up front, they love playing together, why not! All rather exciting.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: OCD on December 11, 2023, 12:23:48 PM
What we're seeing now is the benefit of the team not almost picking itself for the first time in ages. Emery has now got 15-16 players who are all easily good enough for the first 11, who can all come on as a sub if needed, or play when a match calls for a specific set up. I can easily see one of Cash or Moreno coming in against Brentford to give us a bit more width from the wings for example.

With Digne suspended for picking up his 5th booking, Moreno will have to start anyway. The rest of the defence will probably remain.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Olof's Beard on December 11, 2023, 09:40:00 PM
Without wishing the give away too many club secrets collected from yesterday's stadium tour with our Eamonn, young Matty was top of a four man list of players designated 'soft tissue' in the treatment room. So he is probably just carrying a knock, while others have performed well in his stead.

He and Moreno both gave us a life with their energy on Saturday. One of the best features of Emery's work is the commitment of those who aren't in the team. Everyone seems to be pulling together.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: AV84 on December 11, 2023, 09:43:55 PM
Without wishing the give away too many club secrets collected from yesterday's stadium tour with our Eamonn, young Matty was top of a four man list of players designated 'soft tissue' in the treatment room. So he is probably just carrying a knock, while others have performed well in his stead.

I can understand why Carlos was playing recently, but given how much Konsa has played this season I did think there must be another reason Emery was persisting with him at RB. He came good, no doubt, in the Man City and Arsenal games, but I think we were all amazed, and relieved that he did.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Bad English on December 11, 2023, 09:47:01 PM
young Matty was top of a four man list of players designated 'soft tissue' in the treatment room.
Bloody pampered footballers! Give him that tracing paper bog roll like what we had in school. That'll toughen him.up.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Olof's Beard on December 11, 2023, 10:01:57 PM
young Matty was top of a four man list of players designated 'soft tissue' in the treatment room.
Bloody pampered footballers! Give him that tracing paper bog roll like what we had in school. That'll toughen him.up.

Haha! One wipe and you're waddling. Presume we have that stuff in the away dressing room.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on December 11, 2023, 10:03:17 PM
young Matty was top of a four man list of players designated 'soft tissue' in the treatment room.
Bloody pampered footballers! Give him that tracing paper bog roll like what we had in school. That'll toughen him.up.

Are the two full stops there to emphasise the point?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: chrisw1 on December 12, 2023, 08:32:44 AM
I'm sure it's already been said, but I thought Cash made a big difference when he came on against Arsenal.  He was snapping into tackles on the right and in midfield and really disrupted their flow.  It was an excellent change by Emery and a great attitude from Cash.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: brontebilly on December 12, 2023, 10:30:22 AM
I'm sure it's already been said, but I thought Cash made a big difference when he came on against Arsenal.  He was snapping into tackles on the right and in midfield and really disrupted their flow.  It was an excellent change by Emery and a great attitude from Cash.

Played very well when he came on v Bournemouth too when our defence was all over the place. I know Konsa did very well at RB against Man City but he has been poor when playing there nearly every other time. I think Cash will get back in starting at Brentford. After Carlos last two performances, Konsa has some competition now at RCB.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on December 12, 2023, 05:08:21 PM
In my opinion, Cash might even be marketed for sale in the winter instead of the summer window. The scenario would be that if other players, including a right back, were brought in this January, I wouldn't be shocked if he left before the beginning of the next season, and I doubt that Emery would have him as his first choice at the right back position if he's still here after the summer. The club can make some money from selling and there are more suitable as well as better players that could and I think will be brought in.

People may argue all they want about why Cashy isn't a regular anymore I'm just casting a view.
Of course I realise that other people's perspectives on the matter differ greatly from mine, but I just see Emery wanting someone else to fill that position with the many signs shown including the very fact Cashy has been fighting to be first choice ever since Emery arrived.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Didier Five on December 12, 2023, 05:46:55 PM
In my opinion, Cash might even be marketed for sale in the winter instead of the summer window. The scenario would be that if other players, including a right back, were brought in this January, I wouldn't be shocked if he left before the beginning of the next season, and I doubt that Emery would have him as his first choice at the right back position if he's still here after the summer. The club can make some money from selling and there are more suitable as well as better players that could and I think will be brought in.

People may argue all they want about why Cashy isn't a regular anymore I'm just casting a view.
Of course I realise that other people's perspectives on the matter differ greatly from mine, but I just see Emery wanting someone else to fill that position with the many signs shown including the very fact Cashy has been fighting to be first choice ever since Emery arrived.

Or maybe buy a right back and keep Cash to compete for both right back and right midfield slots.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on December 12, 2023, 06:08:50 PM
Of course it is. I think Emery wanted to make the defence a bit more solid in away games, so tried Ezri at right back and Cash at wide midfield as he still felt he couldn't fully rely on Bailey. Cash at wide right didn't work, but Konsa did a good job at right back, so he kept that defence for arguably the two most difficult home games we'll have all season. Now with Leon looking a lot more consistent, he kept with the same side. I'm absolutely certain Cash will have a huge part to play in the rest of the games this season. He's been out of the starting line ups for the same games Diaby has, and I'm sure Moussa will be back in soon too.

Cash's energy and pace was great when he came on against Arsenal, it was superb game management by Emery.

Agree with this. It also gives Emery what he wants, a solid 3 at the back when we're going forward.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on December 12, 2023, 09:06:36 PM
In my opinion, Cash might even be marketed for sale in the winter instead of the summer window. The scenario would be that if other players, including a right back, were brought in this January, I wouldn't be shocked if he left before the beginning of the next season, and I doubt that Emery would have him as his first choice at the right back position if he's still here after the summer. The club can make some money from selling and there are more suitable as well as better players that could and I think will be brought in.

People may argue all they want about why Cashy isn't a regular anymore I'm just casting a view.
Of course I realise that other people's perspectives on the matter differ greatly from mine, but I just see Emery wanting someone else to fill that position with the many signs shown including the very fact Cashy has been fighting to be first choice ever since Emery arrived.

or you could just take note of the post where someone on a stadium tour saw his name on a list of players with soft tissue problems and accept that he's just being rested after starting almost every game for 4months alongside international appearances. You were coming out with sim,ilar nonsense about him a year ago when he got back from the world cup and didn't immediately replace Young in the team so I'm just going to asusme you don't like him, it would be nice if you'd just say that though instead of all the conspiracy silliness to try to justify it.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Bad English on December 12, 2023, 10:03:51 PM
young Matty was top of a four man list of players designated 'soft tissue' in the treatment room.
Bloody pampered footballers! Give him that tracing paper bog roll like what we had in school. That'll toughen him.up.

Are the two full stops there to emphasise the point?
Bloody phone keyboard ay it? Always hitting.full stop and/or/instead of space .
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Astnor on December 12, 2023, 10:16:42 PM
I'm sure it's already been said, but I thought Cash made a big difference when he came on against Arsenal.  He was snapping into tackles on the right and in midfield and really disrupted their flow.  It was an excellent change by Emery and a great attitude from Cash.
He didnt impress me in the situation where Havertz ultimately had a goal ruled out to handball, I guess Konsa had cleared the situation better.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on December 13, 2023, 08:02:23 AM
In my opinion, Cash might even be marketed for sale in the winter instead of the summer window. The scenario would be that if other players, including a right back, were brought in this January, I wouldn't be shocked if he left before the beginning of the next season, and I doubt that Emery would have him as his first choice at the right back position if he's still here after the summer. The club can make some money from selling and there are more suitable as well as better players that could and I think will be brought in.

People may argue all they want about why Cashy isn't a regular anymore I'm just casting a view.
Of course I realise that other people's perspectives on the matter differ greatly from mine, but I just see Emery wanting someone else to fill that position with the many signs shown including the very fact Cashy has been fighting to be first choice ever since Emery arrived.

or you could just take note of the post where someone on a stadium tour saw his name on a list of players with soft tissue problems and accept that he's just being rested after starting almost every game for 4months alongside international appearances. You were coming out with sim,ilar nonsense about him a year ago when he got back from the world cup and didn't immediately replace Young in the team so I'm just going to asusme you don't like him, it would be nice if you'd just say that though instead of all the conspiracy silliness to try to justify it.

His obsession with Cash is ridiculous and quite scary.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on December 13, 2023, 08:07:14 AM
If he was that shit, why didn't we buy a right back in the summer?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: WarszaVillan on December 13, 2023, 08:07:33 AM
In my opinion, Cash might even be marketed for sale in the winter instead of the summer window. The scenario would be that if other players, including a right back, were brought in this January, I wouldn't be shocked if he left before the beginning of the next season, and I doubt that Emery would have him as his first choice at the right back position if he's still here after the summer. The club can make some money from selling and there are more suitable as well as better players that could and I think will be brought in.

People may argue all they want about why Cashy isn't a regular anymore I'm just casting a view.
Of course I realise that other people's perspectives on the matter differ greatly from mine, but I just see Emery wanting someone else to fill that position with the many signs shown including the very fact Cashy has been fighting to be first choice ever since Emery arrived.

or you could just take note of the post where someone on a stadium tour saw his name on a list of players with soft tissue problems and accept that he's just being rested after starting almost every game for 4months alongside international appearances. You were coming out with sim,ilar nonsense about him a year ago when he got back from the world cup and didn't immediately replace Young in the team so I'm just going to asusme you don't like him, it would be nice if you'd just say that though instead of all the conspiracy silliness to try to justify it.

His obsession with Cash is ridiculous and quite scary.

Scary? Hope you're ok?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on December 13, 2023, 08:10:53 AM
Scary as in the way he constantly seems to bang on about him and and for some odd reason, mentions his past relationships off the field. That kind of scary. It's not normal.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on December 13, 2023, 09:22:54 AM
Euro 24 Play offs
Semi-finals: Poland vs Estonia
Final – Path A: Wales/Finland vs Poland/Estonia

The semi-finals will take place on Thursday 21 March 2024, with the three finals scheduled for Tuesday 26 March
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: AV84 on December 13, 2023, 11:20:33 AM
Even if we signed a new RB in January we're not getting rid of Cash. We need 2 in every position.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on December 13, 2023, 02:08:08 PM
I don't know, it may be wise to move him on before his war crimes trial in The Hague for injuring that Spurs player.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clark W Griswold on December 13, 2023, 02:34:19 PM
In my opinion, Cash might even be marketed for sale in the winter instead of the summer window. The scenario would be that if other players, including a right back, were brought in this January, I wouldn't be shocked if he left before the beginning of the next season, and I doubt that Emery would have him as his first choice at the right back position if he's still here after the summer.

Apart from the fact that you're like a broken record with your lack of appreciation of Cash and IMHO are completely wrong on the subject, what if the new right back is shit? What if the new right back gets injured? What if the new right back spurs Cash to play even better (like Moreno has with Digne). The idea is to have two natural right backs, and we would have to be fucking barmy to not have Cash as one if them.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Rigadon on December 13, 2023, 02:37:26 PM
I don't know, it may be wise to move him on before his war crimes trial in The Hague for injuring that Spurs player.

I'm sure Matty Cash would be up for that too.  I mean, he sure doesn't want to come up against Romero when we play them next.  Nosiree.  He's going to foul him bad. 
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on December 13, 2023, 02:52:14 PM
I don't know, it may be wise to move him on before his war crimes trial in The Hague for injuring that Spurs player.

I'm sure Matty Cash would be up for that too.  I mean, he sure doesn't want to come up against Romero when we play them next.  Nosiree.  He's going to foul him bad. 

Cash is going to come out at Villa Park when we play Spurs, in only one sock. The other is going to be full of snooker balls, that he's going to wrap round the head of Romero, shouting "who's the daddy?!" Before running to the away fans to give them a round of fucks, and doing a Cantona flying kick into the front row to cement his reputation as the dirtiest twat in English football.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on December 13, 2023, 03:20:19 PM
Imagine the language barrier will alter the script slightly:

"Where's ya tool?"

"Que?"

*THWACK*
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on December 13, 2023, 03:37:03 PM
Even worse, after all that the anti-spurs bias will mean he only gets a yellow card and then Saka will fall over, wherever he is.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on December 13, 2023, 03:55:40 PM
That eternal philosophical debate:

"If Bukayo Saka falls over with no one near him to see or hear it, will Arteta throw a strop?"
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on December 13, 2023, 05:24:23 PM
In my opinion, Cash might even be marketed for sale in the winter instead of the summer window. The scenario would be that if other players, including a right back, were brought in this January, I wouldn't be shocked if he left before the beginning of the next season, and I doubt that Emery would have him as his first choice at the right back position if he's still here after the summer.

Apart from the fact that you're like a broken record with your lack of appreciation of Cash and IMHO are completely wrong on the subject, what if the new right back is shit? What if the new right back gets injured? What if the new right back spurs Cash to play even better (like Moreno has with Digne). The idea is to have two natural right backs, and we would have to be fucking barmy to not have Cash as one if them.
Well we can include one RB then as Konsa.

I contest they as I think Emery idea is :
1.A right back that can play midfield or wide. (A more suitable version of Chambers or Young)
2.A right back that can also play center half. (A more suitable version of Konsa)
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on December 13, 2023, 05:37:33 PM
If he was that shit, why didn't we buy a right back in the summer?
Well a lot of people on H and V have been requesting and speculating for a right back in the summer window and now many saying it on transfer thread for January
And Cashy is not completely trash but doesn't seem up to the requirements for me and I feel there's an impression that Emery isn't totally keen on him.

Based on everything that has transpired throughout Emery's tenure and on our desired style of play, I simply believe that Cashy won't be starting come next season. Albeit I could be proven to be mistaken.
Unlike many other players under Emery, I don't think he has improved at all.
That seems the most revealing to me.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: AV84 on December 13, 2023, 05:38:47 PM
If he was that shit, why didn't we buy a right back in the summer?
Well a lot of people on H and V have been requesting and speculating for a right back in the summer window and now many saying it on transfer thread for January

ANOTHER right back.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on December 13, 2023, 05:50:03 PM

If he was that shit, why didn't we buy a right back in the summer?
Well a lot of people on H and V have been requesting and speculating for a right back in the summer window and now many saying it on transfer thread for January

ANOTHER right back.
FFS, we haven’t shut down the summer one yet! Anyway Davide Calabria from Milan as right back upgrade.

He's been linked but his destination's unknown.
Should be signed for the sing song!

Literally the 2nd Post on the thread of the transfer window in October!
So there actually!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: AV84 on December 13, 2023, 05:58:31 PM

If he was that shit, why didn't we buy a right back in the summer?
Well a lot of people on H and V have been requesting and speculating for a right back in the summer window and now many saying it on transfer thread for January

ANOTHER right back.
FFS, we haven’t shut down the summer one yet! Anyway Davide Calabria from Milan as right back upgrade.

He's been linked but his destination's unknown.
Should be signed for the sing song!

Literally the 2nd Post on the thread of the transfer window in October!
So there actually!

An upgrade would still be another RB. As in, we'd then have 2. I don't think anyone but you are calling for Cash to be gotten rid of completely.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on December 13, 2023, 06:02:11 PM

If he was that shit, why didn't we buy a right back in the summer?
Well a lot of people on H and V have been requesting and speculating for a right back in the summer window and now many saying it on transfer thread for January

ANOTHER right back.
FFS, we haven’t shut down the summer one yet! Anyway Davide Calabria from Milan as right back upgrade.

He's been linked but his destination's unknown.
Should be signed for the sing song!

Literally the 2nd Post on the thread of the transfer window in October!
So there actually!

An upgrade would still be another RB. As in, we'd then have 2. I don't think anyone but you are calling for Cash to be gotten rid of completely.
Do you want an upgrade ?
What's your stance on that.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Tayls_7 on December 13, 2023, 06:06:18 PM

If he was that shit, why didn't we buy a right back in the summer?
Well a lot of people on H and V have been requesting and speculating for a right back in the summer window and now many saying it on transfer thread for January

ANOTHER right back.
FFS, we haven’t shut down the summer one yet! Anyway Davide Calabria from Milan as right back upgrade.

He's been linked but his destination's unknown.
Should be signed for the sing song!

Literally the 2nd Post on the thread of the transfer window in October!
So there actually!

An upgrade would still be another RB. As in, we'd then have 2. I don't think anyone but you are calling for Cash to be gotten rid of completely.
Do you want an upgrade ?
What's your stance on that.

There isn't a player who can't be upgraded. Only the manager is impossible to upgrade.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on December 13, 2023, 06:11:35 PM

If he was that shit, why didn't we buy a right back in the summer?
Well a lot of people on H and V have been requesting and speculating for a right back in the summer window and now many saying it on transfer thread for January

ANOTHER right back.
FFS, we haven’t shut down the summer one yet! Anyway Davide Calabria from Milan as right back upgrade.

He's been linked but his destination's unknown.
Should be signed for the sing song!

Literally the 2nd Post on the thread of the transfer window in October!
So there actually!

An upgrade would still be another RB. As in, we'd then have 2. I don't think anyone but you are calling for Cash to be gotten rid of completely.
Do you want an upgrade ?
What's your stance on that.

There isn't a player who can't be upgraded. Only the manager is impossible to upgrade.
Specifically for this particular player.
Because Emery upgrades the existing players in their performances he's enhance and improve several players quality but Cash hasn't in my observations.
So as he's not upgraded as a player himself he'll be upgraded to someone else is my working theory.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Tayls_7 on December 13, 2023, 06:21:01 PM
Matty was a tremendous purchase and has been a loyal servant.  I can think of a number of squad players to jettison before him. Your opinion is widely known.  I set my watch by your regular comments.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: AV84 on December 13, 2023, 06:27:57 PM

If he was that shit, why didn't we buy a right back in the summer?
Well a lot of people on H and V have been requesting and speculating for a right back in the summer window and now many saying it on transfer thread for January

ANOTHER right back.
FFS, we haven’t shut down the summer one yet! Anyway Davide Calabria from Milan as right back upgrade.

He's been linked but his destination's unknown.
Should be signed for the sing song!

Literally the 2nd Post on the thread of the transfer window in October!
So there actually!

An upgrade would still be another RB. As in, we'd then have 2. I don't think anyone but you are calling for Cash to be gotten rid of completely.
Do you want an upgrade ?
What's your stance on that.

Well I hardly want a downgrade.

If we sign someone who is better than Cash then they obviously become 1st choice. If we sign someone the same level as Cash then it's down to Emery to make the call game to game.

I also have no problem if we sign a young up and coming RB who will learn from Cash and eventually take his spot.

Anything is better than having only 1 recognised RB in the rotation.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on December 13, 2023, 06:57:04 PM
I'd be happy to wait till the summer for another right-back, provided this quote massacre ends.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ian. on December 13, 2023, 07:17:20 PM
Matty was a tremendous purchase and has been a loyal servant.  I can think of a number of squad players to jettison before him. Your opinion is widely known.  I set my watch by your regular comments.

I agree, Marty Cash is an excellent right back and has been a very good signing.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on December 13, 2023, 07:20:26 PM
Yeah, he's been very good value for what we paid for him.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Yeltzer on December 22, 2023, 10:25:23 PM
I’ve liked Cash ever since we signed him and he was great when we were in the bottom half. Tonight he was gash and showed we need an upgrade asap. Good, but not good enough. We’ve moved on and up
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Mister E on December 22, 2023, 10:30:53 PM
I’ve liked Cash ever since we signed him and he was great when we were in the bottom half. Tonight he was gash and showed we need an upgrade asap. Good, but not good enough. We’ve moved on and up
Agreed.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on December 22, 2023, 10:31:11 PM
I’ve been a big fan and supporter of Cash but he was dreadful tonight.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: brontebilly on December 22, 2023, 10:34:19 PM
Wonder if he's carrying a knock. Seemed to be gassed late on which isnt like him, McAtee caused him a good few problems. Didnt have a good game tonight at all but I think he's a lot more sure of himself when McGinn is ahead of him.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ian. on December 22, 2023, 10:34:34 PM
He wasn’t great, but not really at fault why we didn’t play as well as we can.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pablo_picasso on December 22, 2023, 10:45:40 PM
For me, he is a decent enough player, but for where we currently are, he often looks like a weak link.

I would like to replace him with stronger quality, but keep him as a backup.

Similar to Digne & Moreno at LB.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Demitri_C on December 22, 2023, 10:48:54 PM
Having a poor season in my opinion. Started well but has been pretty bad the last few games esp
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: steamer on December 22, 2023, 10:51:53 PM
I like him, tonight was not one of his best
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Steve67 on December 22, 2023, 11:07:01 PM
Frustrates the shit out of me with his back pedalling and stopping the momentum of forward movement at times.  Need an upgrade but keep him as back up.  Out for the Man United game and likely to be out with his shoulder anyway. 
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: KevinGage on December 22, 2023, 11:16:50 PM
I like him, tonight was not one of his best

Has his limitations, but I like him as well. 

Coughing up possession cheaply is a cardinal sin in an Emery team though, so I wouldn't be stunned to see a genuine first team contender for RB coming in this transfer window or next.

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: taylorsworkrate on December 22, 2023, 11:20:50 PM
He's not a bad player by any means, but he's not at the same level as the other players in our best eleven. I'd have him as a back up to a quality RB like Frimpong
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: VillaTim on December 22, 2023, 11:24:26 PM
we need better ASAP
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Bad English on December 23, 2023, 06:29:41 AM
I was not impressed. He kept going the wrong way. A quick shimmy-like move then fuck it I'll knock it back somewhere 

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ROBBO on December 23, 2023, 07:18:29 AM
He has a very small repertoire, same drag back every time, he is a competent defender but  just does not have the skill set we need.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: 85kota on December 23, 2023, 07:36:36 AM
New right back in January is no. 1 priority to replace Backwards Cash. He was sloppy in defence in the first half, too. Nowhere near good enough.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Aldridge Villa on December 23, 2023, 07:54:20 AM
Like Cashy a lot in the main. However it does infuriate me that when one considers all the up and coming talent in the U21’s a season or two ago we now appear devoid of a homegrown option to at least challenge for his place.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Bobby Boy on December 23, 2023, 07:57:05 AM
A decent enough full-back but nothing more.  Not sure what the point is of him getting into attacking wide positions and then constantly taking the safe and conservative option.

Really showed last night how we could do with a dynamic right back who would be willing to take on the opposing full back.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Meanwood Villa on December 23, 2023, 08:23:51 AM
Having a poor season in my opinion. Started well but has been pretty bad the last few games esp

I'm a fan of his but agree with this, he's not had a good time of it lately. I know he's suspended for Boxing Day but looked like he might have done his shoulder too, any news on that?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeonW on December 23, 2023, 08:27:33 AM
He seems to be lacking confidence at the moment. But even with a fully confident Cash in full flow we need an upgrade.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: mrfuse on December 23, 2023, 08:53:27 AM
The trouble with Matty Cash is im not sure what he really is.

He started out as a wide player but obviously wasn't good enough to maintain that position so was dropped into the right back slot which he isint really good enough to play either at a high level.
He's a really quick player but going forward he doesn't have enough body movement or a skill just to give himself an opening to beat a man so inevitably he then has to keep checking back.   

I think the conclusion is he seems a nice lad who occasionally has a decent game but lacks the consistency to be a top half premier league player.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 23, 2023, 09:16:05 AM
The trouble with Matty Cash is im not sure what he really is.

He started out as a wide player but obviously wasn't good enough to maintain that position so was dropped into the right back slot which he isint really good enough to play either at a high level.
He's a really quick player but going forward he doesn't have enough body movement or a skill just to give himself an opening to beat a man so inevitably he then has to keep checking back.   

I think the conclusion is he seems a nice lad who occasionally has a decent game but lacks the consistency to be a top half premier league player.
I think this is about right.
He lacks a bit of quality and composure.
Last night he was put in plenty of good situations but did nothing with them.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Paul.S on December 23, 2023, 09:32:29 AM
Since Emery arrived Cash has improved defensively as a right back. I don’t think he was terrible last night just as I don’t think anyone was terrible. Maybe he’s struggling going forward a bit lately but all players go through periods where their form dips.  I’m certainly not going to pile in on him. We do need cover/competition at right back as we do in other areas of the squad.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: tomd2103 on December 23, 2023, 09:32:47 AM
I just think we need on the right what we have on the left with Digne and Moreno ie. a more attacking and more defensive option.  We were linked to Argentina's RB in the summer and watching a few videos of him, he looks exactly what we need really (although likely to be expensive).
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 23, 2023, 10:56:30 AM
It feels a bit tough to single him out, because last night he put himself about, was energetic and had a lot of the bal.

However, the amount of safe passing-back he engaged in once he got into their half drove me nuts.

Starting to think I'd be very surprised if no RB in the window.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PeterWithe on December 23, 2023, 10:58:35 AM
The full backs are very important positions for us, I think we will spend big on competition for Cash, think we might have to wait until the summer mind.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Monty on December 23, 2023, 10:59:56 AM
A right back who can do what the City and Arsenal ones do, stepping into midfield to make numerical advantages, would probably be a massive help in breaking down teams defending en masse.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: BC Villain on December 23, 2023, 11:28:03 AM
He's been a good servant and clearly has a great personality.  However,  I don't think he's good enough for where he want to get too
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: SamTheMouse on December 23, 2023, 11:37:27 AM
I like the lad, he always works his socks off and his attitude is great But technically, he's not much better than Targett, to be honest.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: SaddVillan on December 23, 2023, 11:38:16 AM
Cash looks very nervous when he's on the ball - his first touch has deteriorated - it's as if he's anxious when receiving the ball. Confidence lappears to have gone as well and he doesn't seem to know what to do when in or out of posession.
Support and overlap?
Come inside when on the ball?
Drive to the by line and cross?
Whip in an early cross?

He's literally all over the place
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: purpletrousers on December 23, 2023, 11:39:04 AM
It feels a bit tough to single him out, because last night he put himself about, was energetic and had a lot of the bal.

However, the amount of safe passing-back he engaged in once he got into their half drove me nuts.

Starting to think I'd be very surprised if no RB in the window.

Yep for me too. Likeable and maybe lacking in confidence, but lacked that extra skill or confidence to take a man on just a few times more. I appreciate the lower risk keep the ball, circulate, stretch, probe for an opening team game, but there were times we just needed him to take a man on and try.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on December 23, 2023, 11:44:42 AM
The trouble with Matty Cash is im not sure what he really is.

He started out as a wide player but obviously wasn't good enough to maintain that position so was dropped into the right back slot which he isint really good enough to play either at a high level.
He's a really quick player but going forward he doesn't have enough body movement or a skill just to give himself an opening to beat a man so inevitably he then has to keep checking back.   

I think the conclusion is he seems a nice lad who occasionally has a decent game but lacks the consistency to be a top half premier league player.

This is exactly my view of him and has been for quite a while. We're crying out for a whipped ball from the right at times. Cash shits himself in the final third, while Diaby and Bailey inevitably turn into traffic on their left peg.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Matt C on December 23, 2023, 01:36:19 PM
He doesn’t look comfortable when we’re asking him to be the Moreno of the right side but he’s still a very decent right back. I think we’ll just add another option there if not in January then in the summer.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Meanwood Villa on December 23, 2023, 01:54:22 PM
To be fair he did put in a cracking cross in the 9th min of injury time which they did well to clear then took one for the team with the booking
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on December 23, 2023, 02:17:24 PM
Mid table PL player.  Just depends where our ambition is.  I assume it’s at the top end in which case we need an upgrade.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: OCD on December 23, 2023, 02:39:13 PM
To be fair he did put in a cracking cross in the 9th min of injury time which they did well to clear then took one for the team with the booking

And gets Christmas off as a reward.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: colin69 on December 23, 2023, 03:34:33 PM
Not at his best last night and slows things down far too much. I expect an upgrade shortly.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 23, 2023, 03:57:18 PM
He needs a proper challenger to his position. He’s done really for us overall. Can’t forget that. Matty Cash has had way more good games than bad. I don’t know what happened last night but he looked indecisive and lacking focus. Not something he does usually and certainly not at Villa Park. Every player needs competition and we need to get that at RB. Ideally someone better.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Nii Lamptey on December 23, 2023, 04:11:23 PM
Went through a spell where he looked really good, but been off the boil for far too long. A lot of teams recently have definitely targeted our right side when attacking, and it's because it is by far our weakest side defensively.

Effort is always there, but really think that RB is the weakest spot in our 11. The number of times he had all that space to make a run to the byline and whip a ball in, but chose the safe 'check back' and pass to a midfielder option infuriated me last night. Saying that, his crossing has been abysmal for so long I can't remember the last decent ball he put in - Even more shocking considering he is a converted RB as he actually used to play as a winger for Forest?!

Whether he's reached the peak of his ability, or he just needs competition to spur him on I'm not sure, but nevertheless, we desperately need to go shopping for a RB in a week or so.

Suspension against Man Utd could be a blessing, as I think he'd be a ticking timebomb against those cheating bar stools.

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 23, 2023, 04:28:57 PM
I can definitely see us going Konsa, Diego, Torres, Digne against Man U.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: brontebilly on December 23, 2023, 06:01:15 PM
Went through a spell where he looked really good, but been off the boil for far too long. A lot of teams recently have definitely targeted our right side when attacking, and it's because it is by far our weakest side defensively.

Effort is always there, but really think that RB is the weakest spot in our 11. The number of times he had all that space to make a run to the byline and whip a ball in, but chose the safe 'check back' and pass to a midfielder option infuriated me last night. Saying that, his crossing has been abysmal for so long I can't remember the last decent ball he put in - Even more shocking considering he is a converted RB as he actually used to play as a winger for Forest?!

Whether he's reached the peak of his ability, or he just needs competition to spur him on I'm not sure, but nevertheless, we desperately need to go shopping for a RB in a week or so.

Suspension against Man Utd could be a blessing, as I think he'd be a ticking timebomb against those cheating bar stools.

There wasn't really much point slinging crosses in last night with Watkins up against maybe five of their players in their box. We needed our full backs to get in around the back. Cash didn't do that at all, Digne only once that I recall, and his defending was increasingly average the longer it went on too.

Cash wasn't helped by Bailey and Diaby ahead of him. That was a tactical error from Emery. McGinn tucking in narrow suits Cash a lot better.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Demitri_C on December 25, 2023, 09:44:02 AM
https://x.com/madders__10/status/1739010227477836123?s=48&t=EHTeKi570siSNqAa-ahWwQ

Maddisons abit of a prick isnt he if wrote that. Not sure if thats his legit twitter account or a fan one as not in twitter
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on December 25, 2023, 09:51:03 AM
https://x.com/madders__10/status/1739010227477836123?s=48&t=EHTeKi570siSNqAa-ahWwQ

Maddisons abit of a prick isnt he if wrote that. Not sure if thats his legit twitter account or a fan one as not in twitter

It's got 1,700 followers...
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pablo_picasso on December 25, 2023, 11:24:23 AM
Are Spurs fans still being hysterical about that standardly poor Cash challenge?

Whiny little bitches...
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: dcdavecollett on December 26, 2023, 12:59:30 AM
Poor performance from Cash, but it was a good left-foot cross from him that set up Alex for his chance. I think if Moreno heads that back where it came from, he scores.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Exeter 77 on December 26, 2023, 03:06:41 PM
https://x.com/madders__10/status/1739010227477836123?s=48&t=EHTeKi570siSNqAa-ahWwQ

Maddisons abit of a prick isnt he if wrote that. Not sure if thats his legit twitter account or a fan one as not in twitter
The bio says it's a parody account and whoever it is in Solihull.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: FrankyH on December 30, 2023, 11:32:39 AM
Matty Cash is on Football Focus at midday , discussing Villa's "Title Challenge".
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: AV84 on December 30, 2023, 11:54:58 AM
Him and Watkins were on something on Sky this morning too. Playing some stupid game. Cash doesn't seem the brightest of lads, bless him.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: tomd2103 on December 30, 2023, 12:10:21 PM
https://x.com/madders__10/status/1739010227477836123?s=48&t=EHTeKi570siSNqAa-ahWwQ

Maddisons abit of a prick isnt he if wrote that. Not sure if thats his legit twitter account or a fan one as not in twitter
The bio says it's a parody account and whoever it is in Solihull.

Hmmmm....
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dave on January 06, 2024, 08:29:27 PM
Obviously smashing work getting the winner 'n all, but it seems a bit odd that the 87th minute last-throw-of-the-dice set piece plan ends with Cash being the one who has the shot rather than someone more used to doing so.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: nick harper on January 06, 2024, 08:33:54 PM
Obviously smashing work getting the winner 'n all, but it seems a bit odd that the 87th minute last-throw-of-the-dice set piece plan ends with Cash being the one who has the shot rather than someone more used to doing so.

Blimey, tough crowd. It’s not a coincidence. They work on set pieces for hours. Cash said as much in his interview.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 06, 2024, 08:34:15 PM
Obviously smashing work getting the winner 'n all, but it seems a bit odd that the 87th minute last-throw-of-the-dice set piece plan ends with Cash being the one who has the shot rather than someone more used to doing so.

From his post-match interview it seems he's instructed to receive it on the edge of the box, then he can decide to cross, pass or shoot depending on how the opposition reacts. Today, he felt the shot was the best option (presumably as no one had really closed him down).
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on January 06, 2024, 08:36:16 PM
Obviously smashing work getting the winner 'n all, but it seems a bit odd that the 87th minute last-throw-of-the-dice set piece plan ends with Cash being the one who has the shot rather than someone more used to doing so.

Does it matter who's on the end of it?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dave on January 06, 2024, 08:37:57 PM
Obviously smashing work getting the winner 'n all, but it seems a bit odd that the 87th minute last-throw-of-the-dice set piece plan ends with Cash being the one who has the shot rather than someone more used to doing so.

Blimey, tough crowd. It’s not a coincidence. They work on set pieces for hours. Cash said as much in his interview.

I know. I didn't think for a second that it was a coincidence.

It's just that you'd presumably spend those hours of planning and work and you'd probably try and get one of the players more used to pinging one from 25 yards to be the one doing it.

Not complaining, just seems like an interesting choice for him to be the one on the end of that planning.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dave on January 06, 2024, 08:39:26 PM
Obviously smashing work getting the winner 'n all, but it seems a bit odd that the 87th minute last-throw-of-the-dice set piece plan ends with Cash being the one who has the shot rather than someone more used to doing so.

Does it matter who's on the end of it?

Well, yes. Presumably there's a good reason that it isn't Lenglet. Or Martinez.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pablo_picasso on January 06, 2024, 08:46:04 PM
Obviously smashing work getting the winner 'n all, but it seems a bit odd that the 87th minute last-throw-of-the-dice set piece plan ends with Cash being the one who has the shot rather than someone more used to doing so.

Blimey, tough crowd. It’s not a coincidence. They work on set pieces for hours. Cash said as much in his interview.

I know. I didn't think for a second that it was a coincidence.

It's just that you'd presumably spend those hours of planning and work and you'd probably try and get one of the players more used to pinging one from 25 yards to be the one doing it.

Not complaining, just seems like an interesting choice for him to be the one on the end of that planning.

I just wish he would cross it earlier & not always rely in Kamara & Konsa as a safety blanket...
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 06, 2024, 09:11:08 PM
Obviously smashing work getting the winner 'n all, but it seems a bit odd that the 87th minute last-throw-of-the-dice set piece plan ends with Cash being the one who has the shot rather than someone more used to doing so.

Blimey, tough crowd. It’s not a coincidence. They work on set pieces for hours. Cash said as much in his interview.

I know. I didn't think for a second that it was a coincidence.

It's just that you'd presumably spend those hours of planning and work and you'd probably try and get one of the players more used to pinging one from 25 yards to be the one doing it.

Not complaining, just seems like an interesting choice for him to be the one on the end of that planning.

I just wish he would cross it earlier & not always rely in Kamara & Konsa as a safety blanket...

I wish he wouldn't get across the halfway line and immediately look to play it backwards, like a sort of balding Cucurella.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 06, 2024, 09:40:31 PM
He’s been watching too much Man City version Jack Grealish.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on January 06, 2024, 09:43:04 PM

I wish he wouldn't get across the halfway line and immediately look to play it backwards, like a sort of balding Cucurella.

Man, that's cold.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: AV84 on January 06, 2024, 09:53:41 PM
Was it Cash yelling at someone to pass it back to Emi from the halfway line about 2 minutes before we scored? Whoever he was yelling at passed it forward instead and Cash(?) looked really annoyed about it.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 07, 2024, 05:58:24 PM
With Konsa injured, it's time for Cashy to step up, as he'll likely get plenty of minutes and starts against Manchester United, Fulham, Forest, Luton, and Tottenham.
However, if he gets booked today, he would miss the next round on February 28th against Leeds.

Tonight, he faces Chilwell and either Sterling, Nkunku, or Mudryk.
So in anticipation have brought thread to prominence and for specifics in discussing and rating tonight's performance and the next run of games.

Perhaps Cashy will not start every game, but he is expected to gain more playing time. It's a shame Nedeljković isn't arriving till the summer as he would be ideal to share minutes.
Kesler and Chambers are an alternative option during this time
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Hookeysmith on February 08, 2024, 03:35:23 PM
Absolutely boils my piss.

The times he gets the ball on the run in front of him then stops and turns back and plays it to a CH. I hope this Serbian kid really shows up in pre season as he has to be better than what we have.

It was so evident from the start that Chelsea targeted both our full back as the weakest links - and they were no wrong
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: KevinGage on February 08, 2024, 04:32:21 PM

I wish he wouldn't get across the halfway line and immediately look to play it backwards, like a sort of balding Cucurella.

He's got a very difficult decision to make in the next few years. Unless he goes to the same Turkish hair-don't specialist as Danny Ings.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: john2710 on February 08, 2024, 08:40:52 PM
If I didn't know better I'd swear he was left footed, given the number of times he turns back off his right foot. For what we paid & for what he's done over the past 3 years it was a good investment. But we've moved up a few levels & it's clear he's not good enough going forward. Defensively he's OK.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: dcdavecollett on February 09, 2024, 01:28:18 AM
I was surprised -and disappointed- that KKH wasn't on the bench to keep Cash up to the mark.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 09, 2024, 01:29:32 AM
I was surprised -and disappointed- that KKH wasn't on the bench to keep Cash up to the mark.

Cup tied wasn’t he?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: dcdavecollett on February 09, 2024, 02:02:27 AM
Did he play for Argyle before we recalled him?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: London Villan on February 09, 2024, 08:10:01 AM
I also think he knows he is on borrowed time - he is the last of the Dean Smith players who haven't made the step up to play at the level we need them to play at. It's obvious, to us and him.

He'll be off in the summer to somewhere like Palace, Brentford or Bournemouth.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: OCD on February 09, 2024, 11:04:59 AM
He's capable of putting crosses in so I wonder whether it's the instructions he's being given.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 09, 2024, 11:17:03 AM
I actually think he'll score against Man Utd.
He's got a run of games now, and one thing he does is put in the required effort and is always good for tackles and challenges. It's all a bit basic with the rest of his play, but I think he could thrive in the attacking sense against Manchester United if they come to play.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on February 09, 2024, 11:26:52 AM
Oh please stop predicting stuff Footy, you're absolutely hopeless at it.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: UK Redsox on February 09, 2024, 11:57:06 AM
Did he play for Argyle before we recalled him?

Yep. KKH came on as a sub in the 3rd Round

Link (https://www.google.com/search?q=plymouth+fa+cup+2023-24&rlz=1C1ONGR_en-GBGB960GB960&oq=plymouth+fa+cup+2023-24&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCDYyMjJqMGoxqAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#sie=m;/g/11vlt2lm63;2;/m/02_p0;ln;fp;1;;;)
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 09, 2024, 12:07:09 PM
Oh please stop predicting stuff Footy, you're absolutely hopeless at it.
Give me some space.  I enjoy forecasting because it makes me feel good and helps me when I make mistakes so I can learn from them the following time and forecast more accurately. Besides I have a good enough hit rate.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on February 09, 2024, 12:27:32 PM
If you said tomorrow was Saturday I'd have to check. ;)
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 09, 2024, 12:28:15 PM
That's not a forecast though !
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: CT Villan on February 09, 2024, 12:37:20 PM
Give me some space.  I enjoy forecasting because it makes me feel good and helps me when I make mistakes so I can learn from them the following time and forecast more accurately. Besides I have a good enough hit rate.

That's exactly what a self-learning AI would say...
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on February 09, 2024, 01:28:10 PM
Give me some space.  I enjoy forecasting because it makes me feel good and helps me when I make mistakes so I can learn from them the following time and forecast more accurately. Besides I have a good enough hit rate.

That's exactly what a self-learning AI would say...

Ask him to draw a picture of a bluenose and see how many fingers are drawn.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 09, 2024, 01:49:38 PM
That's not a forecast though !
It would be if you said it.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Des Little on February 18, 2024, 07:48:17 AM
Thought he had a really good game yesterday, which will hopefully give him a week off from the unnecessary shit he’s been getting of late. Full credit.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 18, 2024, 07:53:35 AM
 I am a bit fed up of the feint to play it with his right foot forward, to chop back onto his left, take a touch and pass it backwards.
It’s every time he gets the ball. Maybe try and pass it first time.
He remains the weak link when every one is fit.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Astnor on February 18, 2024, 08:29:44 AM
Thought he had a really good game yesterday, which will hopefully give him a week off from the unnecessary shit he’s been getting of late. Full credit.
This is from VILLA NEWS: "Matty Cash – 5. The attacking influence he has had at times this season was limited by a deeper role, but failing to complete a single cross or aerial duel meant he could have been better. Six clearances were the highlight of his performance. [Sofascore]"
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on February 18, 2024, 12:27:42 PM
Yeah, it's not unnecessary shit, they guy's ok and no more. A good lad off the pitch too but so was Micah. I want him pinging passes on a Saturday and making paella on Sundays.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on February 18, 2024, 01:33:40 PM
Well he was level on passes made with Luiz, both of whom were second only to Torres who was miles clear of everybody else. Cash had an 83% pass completion which is good, and was better than Torres and Moreno. He made the most blocks of anybody on the pitch. He had the second most touches for us after Torres. I thought he played well, was always amongst play for us, and the stats back that up.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: andyh on February 18, 2024, 01:38:16 PM
I was disappointed with him for their goal yesterday.
He was going across at pace and should have taken the ball and player out.
A Huttonesque reducer.

He doesn’t really do crunching tackles though does he.

He’s cool at doing that pulling his shorts up over his right thigh though. I suppose that makes him a top quality modern day player, doesn’t it.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on February 18, 2024, 01:59:41 PM
I was disappointed with him for their goal yesterday.
He was going across at pace and should have taken the ball and player out.
A Huttonesque reducer.

He doesn’t really do crunching tackles though does he.

Dirty Cash, we want you, dirty Cash, we need you.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ian. on February 18, 2024, 05:01:14 PM
I am a bit fed up of the feint to play it with his right foot forward, to chop back onto his left, take a touch and pass it backwards.
It’s every time he gets the ball. Maybe try and pass it first time.
He remains the weak link when every one is fit.

Seems rather harsh, he had a very good game yesterday.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on February 19, 2024, 07:20:28 AM
I'm pretty sure he's just doing what he's been told to do.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Nunkin1965 on February 19, 2024, 07:30:40 AM
Played well in a new role.
Must be a challenge when there is so much upheaval defensively in the side for the Polish Cafu!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: nigel on February 19, 2024, 07:35:59 AM
I was disappointed with him for their goal yesterday.
He was going across at pace and should have taken the ball and player out.
A Huttonesque reducer.

He doesn’t really do crunching tackles though does he.

He’s cool at doing that pulling his shorts up over his right thigh though. I suppose that makes him a top quality modern day player, doesn’t it.

To be fair, mate, I thought their player did really well to get the cross in.
It was the confusion between Emi and Lenglet that resulted in the goal.
 
Had he taken him out it was a guaranteed yellow, possible red given how the ref was.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ads on February 19, 2024, 07:39:03 AM
I was disappointed with him for their goal yesterday.
He was going across at pace and should have taken the ball and player out.
A Huttonesque reducer.

He doesn’t really do crunching tackles though does he.

He’s cool at doing that pulling his shorts up over his right thigh though. I suppose that makes him a top quality modern day player, doesn’t it.

He made an excellent slide tackle on Saturday. I'm not sure why you'd blame him and not Marrinez for the goal.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on February 19, 2024, 09:49:18 AM
When he gets the ball and does his cut back thing, we have progressed a good distance up the pitch. It means, whne he passes it back the centre back that we are starting our play again from a more advanced position.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Smithy on February 19, 2024, 10:02:43 AM
When he gets the ball and does his cut back thing, we have progressed a good distance up the pitch. It means, whne he passes it back the centre back that we are starting our play again from a more advanced position.

I often wonder how much of that is to instruction, or if he's just worrying about advancing further and losing the ball, with the focus on retaining possession.  It makes perfect sense that he'd be like a ball-carrying forward in rugby union - "Get us a few yards up the pitch and then give it back to the better players".
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Somniloquism on February 19, 2024, 11:12:23 AM
I am a bit fed up of the feint to play it with his right foot forward, to chop back onto his left, take a touch and pass it backwards.
It’s every time he gets the ball. Maybe try and pass it first time.
He remains the weak link when every one is fit.

Emery is on players every day of the week with what they need to do in the team. I suspect for some reason he has been instructed that if a certain ball isn't on, to just play it simple and keep possession, especially when Moreno is playing as Alex is classed as the attacking fullback then. Maybe he is being too conservative but after most of the season, I doubt he would still be playing like that under this manager. And also noticeable that when Digne was playing at the start of the season, Cash was getting forward a lot more.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on February 19, 2024, 11:18:39 AM
Cash is part of a team that is clearly instructed to keep possession at all times, even if it means pasing it backwards, and then to wait for an opportunity to play a quick ball forward and beat the press. We often see the likes of Luiz and McGinn passing it backwards when there's no forward pass available, so why shouldn't Cash do the same? Also, Emery has always played with "wonky" full backs, ie one getting forward more and the other being more circumspect. When it was Digne and Cash, Cash used to get forward more. Now Moreno is playing instead, Alex is the one with the more positive role.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on February 19, 2024, 11:29:12 AM
The one time I've been really pissed off with Cash is when he didn't go back and keep possession against Newcastle and tried to turn it forward resulting in their third goal.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on February 19, 2024, 11:38:39 AM
When he gets the ball and does his cut back thing, we have progressed a good distance up the pitch. It means, whne he passes it back the centre back that we are starting our play again from a more advanced position.

I often wonder how much of that is to instruction, or if he's just worrying about advancing further and losing the ball, with the focus on retaining possession.  It makes perfect sense that he'd be like a ball-carrying forward in rugby union - "Get us a few yards up the pitch and then give it back to the better players".

I think it has to be instruction, otherwise we'd see Emery giving him pelters as he's (for half the game at least) right in front of him.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Nunkin1965 on February 19, 2024, 12:02:14 PM
I may be wrong but I think some see him as the scapegoat of the team which is frankly b******s.
One sits behind us at VP and constantly moans about his contribution.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on February 19, 2024, 12:35:03 PM
I may be wrong but I think some see him as the scapegoat of the team which is frankly b******s.
One sits behind us at VP and constantly moans about his contribution.

Is his name Eamonn?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: johnc on February 19, 2024, 12:46:34 PM
I may be wrong but I think some see him as the scapegoat of the team which is frankly b******s.
One sits behind us at VP and constantly moans about his contribution.

Is his name Eamonn?
Eamonn H?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: brontebilly on February 19, 2024, 01:13:24 PM
I may be wrong but I think some see him as the scapegoat of the team which is frankly b******s.
One sits behind us at VP and constantly moans about his contribution.

Until Konsa gets back in at RB and then we all want Cash instead..... His decision making on ball isn't elite, let's put it that way but he's a solid player. Needs competition for his spot and will have it next season. Emery has never been fully convinced and that's a tough situation for a player too.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 19, 2024, 01:14:01 PM
I am a bit fed up of the feint to play it with his right foot forward, to chop back onto his left, take a touch and pass it backwards.
It’s every time he gets the ball. Maybe try and pass it first time.
He remains the weak link when every one is fit.

Seems rather harsh, he had a very good game yesterday.
But he also di the above pretty much every time he received the ball.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: darren woolley on February 19, 2024, 01:25:34 PM
He played well against Fulham.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Smithy on February 19, 2024, 01:32:00 PM
I may be wrong but I think some see him as the scapegoat of the team which is frankly b******s.
One sits behind us at VP and constantly moans about his contribution.

Until Konsa gets back in at RB and then we all want Cash instead..... His decision making on ball isn't elite, let's put it that way but he's a solid player. Needs competition for his spot and will have it next season. Emery has never been fully convinced and that's a tough situation for a player too.

Unai is getting a good look at Kesler-Hayden, and we've got the young Serbian lad from the summer, so there is a LOT of competition at right-back next season.  With Konsa out, I'm surprised we've not seen Kesler-Hayden yet, even from the bench.   I can't imagine we'll buy ANOTHER right-back, and I also don't think Unai would be happy with KKH and the new kid as our only specialist right-backs, so I suspect Cash is here for a while yet.

Unless he has a long-term plan to play Konsa there and find a new right-sided partner for Pau?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Paul.S on February 19, 2024, 01:43:18 PM
I can’t imagine Cash would be anywhere near the first team if he was doing something that Emery hadn’t told him to do.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 19, 2024, 02:28:54 PM
I can’t imagine Cash would be anywhere near the first team if he was doing something that Emery hadn’t told him to do.
And the alternatives are?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dogtanian on February 19, 2024, 02:33:57 PM
It can be frustrating when he stops and go backwards, but as others have said, that's his instructions. If certain players aren't in position or we look like we're now stretched and vulnerable to a counter, he's told not to risk progressing it.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Mister E on February 19, 2024, 02:51:49 PM
I may be wrong but I think some see him as the scapegoat of the team which is frankly b******s.
One sits behind us at VP and constantly moans about his contribution.

Until Konsa gets back in at RB and then we all want Cash instead..... His decision making on ball isn't elite, let's put it that way but he's a solid player. Needs competition for his spot and will have it next season. Emery has never been fully convinced and that's a tough situation for a player too.
... I suspect Cash is here for a while yet.
Unless Cash is seen as someone we can sell on for FFP reasons.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Paul.S on February 19, 2024, 03:31:03 PM
I can’t imagine Cash would be anywhere near the first team if he was doing something that Emery hadn’t told him to do.
And the alternatives are?

None since Konsa’s injury but he played there quite a few times when Konsa was fit. If he was that bad he wouldn’t have got anywhere near the first team if he wasn’t doing what the manager wanted.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: brontebilly on February 19, 2024, 05:07:40 PM
It can be frustrating when he stops and go backwards, but as others have said, that's his instructions. If certain players aren't in position or we look like we're now stretched and vulnerable to a counter, he's told not to risk progressing it.

It's the lack of cohesion with Bailey down the right that's the main issue I think. They need to go on the piss together or something. Moreno and Ramsey are much more in sync on the other side. This wasn't really an issue when McGinn was on the right.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on February 19, 2024, 06:00:12 PM
It can be frustrating when he stops and go backwards, but as others have said, that's his instructions. If certain players aren't in position or we look like we're now stretched and vulnerable to a counter, he's told not to risk progressing it.

It's the lack of cohesion with Bailey down the right that's the main issue I think. They need to go on the piss together or something. Moreno and Ramsey are much more in sync on the other side. This wasn't really an issue when McGinn was on the right.

Bailey is in brilliant form, but you don't get as much protection on the right as you do with Ramsey on the left. So I think the feeling from Unai is: left side, Moreno a bit more attacking, a bit less defending than Cash, because Ramsey isn't as good at attacking as Bailey but works a bit harder. On the right, a bit less bombing forward from Cash, because he's not as good at attacking as Moreno, but also needs to cover for the out-and-out winger in Leon.

Looked to be working very well against Fulham.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 02, 2024, 04:39:04 PM
Cash and Bailey are linking so well.
Doughty is the left back who's quite a plodder. Have to stop the endless crosses he produces so defensively Cash must be sure but he and Bailey can be enjoying themselves today in attacking sense.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 02, 2024, 04:51:19 PM
Doughty is not a plodder, he’s a pretty good player going forward.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: paul_e on March 02, 2024, 05:56:06 PM
Doughty is not a plodder, he’s a pretty good player going forward.

Terrible defender though.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 03, 2024, 09:56:52 AM
If Poland reach the Euro Play off final Cash has 9 matches in 30 days that works out as a game every 3 days where he'll be involved.

March 7th Ajax away
10th Spurs home
14th Ajax home
17th West Ham away
21st Poland vs Estonia, Semi Final
26th Wales/Finland vs Poland/Estonia Final
30th Wolves home
April 3rd Man City away
6th Brentford home
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Demitri_C on March 10, 2024, 03:25:25 PM
I dont want to be too harsh on matty as he isnt a rw but why does emery persist on doing this?? Its been a colossal failure near enough every time he has played there

Cash already had enough pressure on him from thoss idiotic spurs fans
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 10, 2024, 03:27:24 PM
It worked against Burnley but it’s been an absolutely shit idea pretty much every game he’s tried it since.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 10, 2024, 03:32:11 PM
He needs to be shipped out.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 10, 2024, 03:36:07 PM
He’s been playing well at right back in a proper back four. In the sort of half arsed, not really a right back, not really a wide player nonsense position Emery asked him to do today, he looks half the player he actually is.

Even so, he was better than Konsa, who’s had a disastrous week.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 10, 2024, 03:49:44 PM
It worked against Burnley but it’s been an absolutely shit idea pretty much every game he’s tried it since.

It always might against a championship club.

I thought it was stange to do it today and I dont like Konsa at RB neither.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Demitri_C on March 10, 2024, 03:50:40 PM
It worked against Burnley but it’s been an absolutely shit idea pretty much every game he’s tried it since.

I agree. Yet the biggest game of our season emery decides to do it again. Unbelievable
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ads on March 10, 2024, 06:06:41 PM
We played an orthodox back 5, it wasn't anything like Burnley with Cash getting advanced.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: aj2k77 on March 10, 2024, 06:23:05 PM
Villa and back 5's.....
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: walsall villain on March 10, 2024, 06:25:24 PM
Villa and back 5's.....
It was ok yonks ago when Brian Liitle set us up that way if memory serves. Normally we end up with full backs never getting forward
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: TonyD on March 10, 2024, 06:28:29 PM
I think he is a barometer for us. 
He plays well - we all play well. 
I like him.  He gives 100%. 
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Demitri_C on March 10, 2024, 06:40:11 PM
Obviously mattys getting pelters only from all those sad and pathetic spurs fans. Honestly such a detestable fan base
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: tomd2103 on March 11, 2024, 12:42:30 AM
He needs to be shipped out.

Possibly, or at least a better option bought in who he can be interchanged with like the Moreno / Digne set up on the left side.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeonW on March 11, 2024, 02:09:46 AM
He’s one of the few who hasn’t really improved after a decent chunk of time under Emery and I think we be sold in the summer. He doesn’t look comfortable in an Emery system at all and is at a good age for getting a decent fee for. He’s also someone we could upgrade on without spending a small fortune.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: dcdavecollett on March 11, 2024, 02:22:53 AM
Perhaps we already have.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 11, 2024, 06:21:12 AM
He is ok until he has to play against a decent winger, Johnson had him on toast.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 11, 2024, 07:17:13 AM
He’s perfectly good enough when Unai doesn’t have a brain fart like yesterday.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ian. on March 11, 2024, 08:06:40 AM
I’m not sure what other options we had yesterday. Unless we play Tim in the Kamara role instead of five at the back.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 11, 2024, 08:17:40 AM
I guess the options were either Rogers in Ramsey's spot, or Tim in midfield. Both of which would probably have been better. Cash in a 5 is always a stupid idea.

Spurs away - absolute garbage until halftime when Emery sees it's not working.
Liverpool away - dreadful
Forest away - awful
Brentford away - terrible until the idea gets binned, and then we end up winning
Spurs at home yesterday - disaster

When Emery bangs on about learning from the mistakes, how about having a look at the last time he tried that experiment against the very same team?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: tomd2103 on March 11, 2024, 08:54:50 AM
He’s perfectly good enough when Unai doesn’t have a brain fart like yesterday.

Have to disagree to be honest mate.  Think he's been exposed a bit this season unfortunately. 
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ger Regan on March 11, 2024, 08:55:07 AM
He's nowhere near good enough if we want to be fighting for top four, regardless of in a back 4 or 5. He slows our play down dramatically, can't cross, is not a good defender and it always feels like he's got a penalty concession in him. Right back is a priority position for me in the summer (even allowing for the new kid), along with DM and backup striker.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 11, 2024, 08:59:39 AM
He's nowhere near good enough if we want to be fighting for top four, regardless of in a back 4 or 5. He slows our play down dramatically, can't cross, is not a good defender and it always feels like he's got a penalty concession in him. Right back is a priority position for me in the summer (even allowing for the new kid), along with DM and backup striker.

All of this.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 11, 2024, 09:04:22 AM
I know you can prove anything with stats but:

When he's played at right back in a back four, we've won 11 out of 15 games, and drawn 1. That's 34 points from 15, which is better than our overall totals.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PeterWithe on March 11, 2024, 10:20:40 AM
We are always going to be up against it when the game plan seems to be for Cash (and whatever left back is on) to have to dribble around two player in our defensive third to make any progress up the field. He didn't play well, he wasn't alone in that but Unai didn't do him any favours. 
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on March 11, 2024, 12:01:07 PM
We are always going to be up against it when the game plan seems to be for Cash (and whatever left back is on) to have to dribble around two player in our defensive third to make any progress up the field. He didn't play well, he wasn't alone in that but Unai didn't do him any favours. 

It feels like he shouldn't be the key to any tactical adjustments but he is, every time.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Ian. on March 11, 2024, 01:16:57 PM
I guess the options were either Rogers in Ramsey's spot, or Tim in midfield. Both of which would probably have been better. Cash in a 5 is always a stupid idea.

Spurs away - absolute garbage until halftime when Emery sees it's not working.
Liverpool away - dreadful
Forest away - awful
Brentford away - terrible until the idea gets binned, and then we end up winning
Spurs at home yesterday - disaster

When Emery bangs on about learning from the mistakes, how about having a look at the last time he tried that experiment against the very same team?

When you spin it the other way round and look at what the team and himself have learned in the 15 months he’s been here is quite remarkable. Top 4 from relegation candidates to the highest win percentage of any Villa manager.

If he had improved on this with the limited squad we have (comparing to any of the teams in the top six) we’d be nearly winning the league.

I know we all want more and we all hate losing but there’s always going to be the odd blip along the way.

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 11, 2024, 01:25:28 PM
I'm not talking about his overall record Ian, just reacting to a basic and very obvious error. He was really chippy with the reporter who asked him about the change to 5 at the back in the post match interview, saying only "we've played it before." Yes we have, and nearly every single time it's been an absolute load of rubbish. Yesterday wasn't a blip, it was absolute carnage.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on March 11, 2024, 01:34:03 PM
I'm not talking about his overall record Ian, just reacting to a basic and very obvious error. He was really chippy with the reporter who asked him about the change to 5 at the back in the post match interview, saying only "we've played it before." Yes we have, and nearly every single time it's been an absolute load of rubbish. Yesterday wasn't a blip, it was absolute carnage.

It wasn't in the first half. The game was lost after those two errors in three minutes in the second half.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 11, 2024, 01:37:28 PM
A game is judged over 90 minutes. We didn't have a single attempt on target in the first half, and played really badly.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on March 11, 2024, 01:38:33 PM
Yep, the first half wasn't too bad really and they hardly created anything. Very early in the second half, you could tell they had tweaked it a little in the midfield and next thing you know, we're two down. A goal back would have changed it but the sending off killed off any hope of that really.  Not so sure it was carnage but nothing went right at all yesterday.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on March 11, 2024, 02:59:36 PM
A game is judged over 90 minutes. We didn't have a single attempt on target in the first half, and played really badly.

And a season is judged over 38 games. In the 28 we've played already we've done pretty well.

Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 11, 2024, 03:05:06 PM
A game is judged over 90 minutes. We didn't have a single attempt on target in the first half, and played really badly.

And a season is judged over 38 games. In the 28 we've played already we've done pretty well.

I know. We’ve generally played well and won games with Cash at right back in a back four. We’ve mostly been a pile of shite with him in a back five.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Somniloquism on March 11, 2024, 03:12:49 PM
I guess the options were either Rogers in Ramsey's spot, or Tim in midfield. Both of which would probably have been better. Cash in a 5 is always a stupid idea.

Spurs away - absolute garbage until halftime when Emery sees it's not working.
Liverpool away - dreadful
Forest away - awful
Brentford away - terrible until the idea gets binned, and then we end up winning
Spurs at home yesterday - disaster

When Emery bangs on about learning from the mistakes, how about having a look at the last time he tried that experiment against the very same team?


Who was the 5 in that match? Did he drop McGinn or Kamara back?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: VillaTim on March 11, 2024, 03:24:33 PM
Looked rattled yesterday . I think all the Romero stories got to him.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: chrisw1 on March 11, 2024, 03:49:30 PM
Looked rattled yesterday . I think all the Romero stories got to him.
Don't be daft.  The whole team was shite and he was up against Johnson & Udogie who are both playing extremely well.  I doubt very much that it was anything to do with Mr Bodywarmer and ripped jeans.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: SamTheMouse on March 11, 2024, 03:50:09 PM
I'm not talking about his overall record Ian, just reacting to a basic and very obvious error. He was really chippy with the reporter who asked him about the change to 5 at the back in the post match interview, saying only "we've played it before." Yes we have, and nearly every single time it's been an absolute load of rubbish. Yesterday wasn't a blip, it was absolute carnage.

Yep. Every time it's been so terrible that he actually had to change it mid-game. And in most cases (e.g. Spurs away, Brentford) things improved dramatically from that moment on. Like flipping a switch.

It's almost like starting with Konsa and Cash and two other centre-backs is a REALLY REALLY bad idea. He's incredibly intelligent, so I genuinely can't fathom why he keeps doing it, when there's a mountain of empirical evidence as to why he shouldn't.

But then, all managers do this. They develop a weird fetish for some formation, or playing a certain player in a certain position, and stubbornly refuse to give up on it, despite everyone knowing it's cack. It's pathological.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: VillaTim on March 11, 2024, 04:07:21 PM
Looked rattled yesterday . I think all the Romero stories got to him.
Don't be daft.  The whole team was shite and he was up against Johnson & Udogie who are both playing extremely well.  I doubt very much that it was anything to do with Mr Bodywarmer and ripped jeans.
What's a bodywarmer , is that what is now known as a Gilet or where i grew up a tank top.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeonW on March 11, 2024, 06:22:57 PM
He’s perfectly good enough when Unai doesn’t have a brain fart like yesterday.

Cash is neither consistently good enough offensively or defensively for a top level side. For every moment like Burnley away will be offset by his often poor shooting and crossing, constant chopping back inside to not being able to hold his position in playing the offside trap or being caught out positionally. At least if he was more effective offensively there would be more of a justification for keeping him but right now, the only real justification is that his wages are probably quite low.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Tony Daleys Shorts on March 11, 2024, 07:37:10 PM
Cash is a decent lower half of the Premier League player. He lacks the decision making skills to be a top player.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Mister E on March 11, 2024, 07:43:10 PM
I guess the options were either Rogers in Ramsey's spot, or Tim in midfield. Both of which would probably have been better. Cash in a 5 is always a stupid idea.

Spurs away - absolute garbage until halftime when Emery sees it's not working.
Liverpool away - dreadful
Forest away - awful
Brentford away - terrible until the idea gets binned, and then we end up winning
Spurs at home yesterday - disaster

When Emery bangs on about learning from the mistakes, how about having a look at the last time he tried that experiment against the very same team?
correct.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 11, 2024, 07:45:48 PM
I was annoyed he didnt cross to Watkins for a tap in and shot instead.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 11, 2024, 07:48:29 PM
A game is judged over 90 minutes. We didn't have a single attempt on target in the first half, and played really badly.

And a season is judged over 38 games. In the 28 we've played already we've done pretty well.



Well, except the one yesterday, obvs. And quite a few of the other recent ones.

He's doing a brilliant job, absolutely stellar, but that doesn't make him infallible. When I saw that line up pre-match yesterday, I had a horrible feeling I knew what was going to happen. And it did.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 11, 2024, 07:51:51 PM
A game is judged over 90 minutes. We didn't have a single attempt on target in the first half, and played really badly.

And a season is judged over 38 games. In the 28 we've played already we've done pretty well.



Well, except the one yesterday, obvs. And quite a few of the other recent ones.

He's doing a brilliant job, absolutely stellar, but that doesn't make him infallible. When I saw that line up pre-match yesterday, I had a horrible feeling I knew what was going to happen. And it did.

Yep it screamed inferiority complex and that is exactly how we played.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: VillaTim on March 11, 2024, 07:52:14 PM
Kept slipping over yesterday , proper amateur it was .
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Steve67 on March 11, 2024, 09:45:30 PM
Cash is one of the players we are carrying.  He isn't what we need.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PeterWithe on March 11, 2024, 09:49:24 PM
I don't think there is too much wrong in Cash's game that cant be solved with coaching and repetitive practice, he just needs to improve his delivery into the box, because it's shit far too many times.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: VillaTim on March 11, 2024, 09:58:49 PM
Cash is one of the players we are carrying.  He isn't what we need.
He's hit his ceiling some time ago. Needed upgrading last summer .
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 11, 2024, 10:40:54 PM
He is one of the more obvious "needs to be improved" players we have.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 11, 2024, 10:46:54 PM
I think he’s fine as a squad player when he’s right back of a 4. He also played a really important role at the end of last season.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Demitri_C on March 17, 2024, 06:59:19 PM
Whag a block  😍

Honestly that was unbelievable.  Well done matty 👏
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on March 17, 2024, 07:18:56 PM
Yep, body on the line, he won us/preserved a point for us there.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 17, 2024, 07:55:08 PM
Just play him at right back. Cash Konsa Torres Digne. Today you had Konsa out of position at right back, Lenglet out of position at right centre half, and our best two full backs on the bench.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: brontebilly on March 17, 2024, 07:58:07 PM
He is one of the more obvious "needs to be improved" players we have.

He has his limitations but it's one of those that you miss him badly when he isn't there. Great attitude too, lots of players would get pissy seeing Konsa played ahead of him again and struggling badly. Came on today and kicked us into life immediately.

If fit, he plays right back every game from now until seasons end.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Demitri_C on March 17, 2024, 08:10:34 PM
Yeah im not a fan of konsa at rb tbh
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Monty on March 17, 2024, 08:29:11 PM
Konsa's fine at right back because he's not meant to get forward down the right, but shuffle over in possession to make a three. But today the big problem was that this meant Lenglet - totally overwhelmed physically in this game, to be honest - was at centre-back and not Konsa, whose strength and calm were needed in there.

If and when we have Mings back, Konsa on the right will be fine.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: London Villan on March 17, 2024, 08:32:50 PM
It’s probably how is told to play, but so many times he stops and passes it square or back, rather than attacking.

That said, two important blocks in the last two games.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Astnor on March 17, 2024, 09:02:58 PM
The reason that Konsa get moved over to RB even his not a RB and our central back pairing getting weakened cause of it has to be that Matty isnt able totales.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 17, 2024, 09:19:08 PM
Was a really good cameo and exactly what we needed. Someone who could give us some more energy as we looked as flat as anything first half.

Brilliant briliant block. As I said in the post match thread you need moments like that in a run in. If we make top 4 by a point that will be a moment I think of as VAR wouldn't have ruled it out if it had gone in.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Somniloquism on March 17, 2024, 09:27:39 PM
It’s probably how is told to play, but so many times he stops and passes it square or back, rather than attacking.

That said, two important blocks in the last two games.

Three important blocks in the last three games he has played left back. The Luton one is sometimes overlooked because of the ineptitude of the rest of his team mates who just stood around in shock.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Jim Bradley on March 21, 2024, 09:07:11 PM
Done his hamstring playing for Poland
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Aldridge Villa on March 21, 2024, 09:07:38 PM
FFS
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: john e on March 21, 2024, 09:43:13 PM
Is he definitely out with a hamstring
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 21, 2024, 09:45:13 PM
FFS.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Exeter 77 on March 21, 2024, 09:45:27 PM
I would guess it is likely because he came on at half time and went off after 56 minutes.

Edit: This looks like a hamstring problem.
https://twitter.com/myoldmansaid/status/1770932377692282984?t=IAq7OJNZIG7h8L4fcIV7ug&s=19
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 21, 2024, 10:27:43 PM
Bollocks, there'll be celebrations all across N17 tonight.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on March 21, 2024, 10:29:23 PM
Precaution, maybe? He didn't pull-up mid-sprint. Maybe he didn't want to risk running it off.

If not, Kaine Kessler, get yer boots on, you're up.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on March 21, 2024, 10:44:44 PM
Precaution, maybe? He didn't pull-up mid-sprint. Maybe he didn't want to risk running it off.

If not, Kaine Kessler, get yer boots on, you're up.

More like get used to Konsa at right back.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 21, 2024, 10:56:52 PM
This is him leaving the stadium

https://twitter.com/TBroziu/status/1770938601133547758
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 21, 2024, 11:05:48 PM
This is him leaving the stadium

https://twitter.com/TBroziu/status/1770938601133547758

#POLEST aka Polish Eastie.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Villafirst on March 22, 2024, 06:58:57 AM
Not the first time he's got injured playing for Poland. I think he's had a similar injury before?
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 22, 2024, 08:53:41 AM
Typical collided with an advertising hoarding to add to Konsa colliding with a post against Luton.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: darren woolley on March 22, 2024, 09:53:24 AM
This is terrible news.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Hookeysmith on March 22, 2024, 05:26:47 PM
It feels like things are starting to conspire against us.
Hopefully we can overcome yet another adversity
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: VillaTim on March 22, 2024, 05:34:47 PM
FFS only just seen this
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: OCD on March 22, 2024, 05:37:32 PM
Probably a strain which hopefully rules him out for no more than 2-3 weeks.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on March 23, 2024, 09:26:58 AM
Probably a strain which hopefully rules him out for no more than 2-3 weeks.

Or years.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Skerra on March 23, 2024, 11:13:37 AM
Will probably never play again!!
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 27, 2024, 11:25:32 AM
Out for around three weeks apparently
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 27, 2024, 11:28:29 AM
FFS.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on March 27, 2024, 12:35:32 PM
Out for around three weeks apparently

He's our right back, he's our number two, he's crocked again, not retired like Cafu.....
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on March 27, 2024, 12:46:49 PM
Wolves will target our new England international at right full-back now. It's a funny old game.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Demitri_C on March 27, 2024, 02:09:48 PM
Surely its about time we give kesler some game time. Rather have kesler at rb and konsa and pau back at cb then konsa rb and lenglet-pau at cb again
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on March 27, 2024, 02:11:40 PM
Surely its about time we give kesler some game time. Rather have kesler at rb and konsa and pau back at cb then konsa rb and lenglet-pau at cb again

Don't agree mate, the games we've got coming up are no time to be blooding a youngster in defence. I'd like to see him get 20 minutes if we're in the position of being in a comfortable lead, but we really don't know if he's any good.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Demitri_C on March 27, 2024, 02:17:02 PM
Surely its about time we give kesler some game time. Rather have kesler at rb and konsa and pau back at cb then konsa rb and lenglet-pau at cb again

Don't agree mate, the games we've got coming up are no time to be blooding a youngster in defence. I'd like to see him get 20 minutes if we're in the position of being in a comfortable lead, but we really don't know if he's any good.

Yeah i understand that. Your probably right it could be a disaster or a success but as he hasnt played any minutes it will be a huge risk. Would have been good if he got a few minutes i  europe so we got a idea of how good he is. The other way to look at it though is if konsa gets injured we have no choice as we have no other rbs to play. Im hoping unai will get at least give him some minutes as a sub so if we are in that position  kesler can at least have had some exposure in the first team
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on March 27, 2024, 02:52:27 PM
It was a shame Kaine didn't get a run-out against Ajax when the game was won.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on April 13, 2024, 07:23:14 PM
Matty Cash returned to training so he’s available for selection against Arsenal I hear
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Drummond on April 16, 2024, 04:39:06 PM
If he's fit, I'd play him.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Footy-Vill on April 18, 2024, 08:50:25 PM
Brilliant by Cashy both scoring in the match and scoring his penalty
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Tony Daleys Shorts on April 18, 2024, 10:39:50 PM
Fair play Matty, looked ropey at times but looked our most likely source of a goal and that’s how it turned out. Slight deflection on the goal but who cares?! He struck it magnificently. It launched me an my youngest Son towards the living room ceiling, loved it!

Very nicely taken penalty too, he’s far from our best player but he has provided us with a moment to treasure tonight.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Dante Lavelli on April 18, 2024, 11:05:06 PM
120 minutes straight after an injury too.  I’d be amazed if he starts at the weekend.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Somniloquism on April 18, 2024, 11:06:24 PM
120 minutes straight after an injury too.  I’d be amazed if he starts at the weekend.

I would be surprised if he didn't, but then Unai does make his choices.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on April 18, 2024, 11:06:39 PM
He's got one heck of a shot on him has Metty.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: AV84 on April 18, 2024, 11:59:15 PM
I think Cash is one of those players who did improve under Emery but has probably improved as much as he can. I'm not in any hurry to get rid of him, he's been an important part of the progress we've made the last 18 months, and he can still play a role.

One thing I notice is how people complain about how much he passes it back, slows it down, etc. but it strikes me as someone who has been given specific instructions and he's going to stick to those instructions no matter what. Whereas some of the other players are more likely to pick a beautiful pass, or turn on a bit of skill/speed.

Anyway, all that is to say, I'm happy to see him play 120 minutes seemingly unscathed, and he'll be important in the run in.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Risso on April 19, 2024, 12:02:25 AM
He's the best right back we have, and until we buy somebody demonstrably better he should be going nowhere.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PeterWithe on April 19, 2024, 12:03:00 AM
What a goal, really dragged us out of a hole.

I really like his attitude and he seems a likeable, popular character. But he was poor tonight overall, a shame he hasn't pushed on but I think he'll be moved on with all of our thanks and best wishes.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Axl Rose on April 19, 2024, 01:22:59 AM
He's the best right back we have, and until we buy somebody demonstrably better he should be going nowhere.

I like him.

Always have. He's a better right back than Konsa is.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: OCD on April 19, 2024, 11:07:26 AM
He's a fit lad. To play 120 minutes after 3-weeks out and to not look leggy when he had to take a penalty. I think Diego Carlos will be brought in Sunday for the physicality he can offer against Solanke so it will be Emery's choice as to whether he rests Konsa or Cash. Might depend how good Bournemouth are on their left side.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: AV84 on April 19, 2024, 11:21:36 AM
I wonder has Cash ever taken a penalty before? In a proper game at top level, I mean. The other 4 I'd imagine have.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PeterWithe on April 19, 2024, 11:26:03 AM
I wonder has Cash ever taken a penalty before? In a proper game at top level, I mean. The other 4 I'd imagine have.

Did he score one against us for Forest in the 4-4? Maybe I imagined that.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Clampy on April 19, 2024, 11:31:14 AM
I wonder has Cash ever taken a penalty before? In a proper game at top level, I mean. The other 4 I'd imagine have.

Did he score one against us for Forest in the 4-4? Maybe I imagined that.

He did score but can't remember if it was a penalty or not.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: Somniloquism on April 19, 2024, 11:33:16 AM
I wonder has Cash ever taken a penalty before? In a proper game at top level, I mean. The other 4 I'd imagine have.

Did he score one against us for Forest in the 4-4? Maybe I imagined that.

He did score but can't remember if it was a penalty or not.

Not a pen, one of four goals assisted by Lolley.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: LeeB on April 19, 2024, 12:06:33 PM
He's not the greatest and will probably be replaced but he very rarely lets us down and has never lacked for effort and application, which is all you can ask for from a player.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 19, 2024, 12:10:39 PM
It was 5-5 and the only pen was scored by Tammy.
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: eamonn on April 19, 2024, 02:14:48 PM
Lolley was a Villan
Title: Re: Matty Cash - Polish international
Post by: PeterWithe on April 19, 2024, 02:16:00 PM
It was 5-5 and the only pen was scored by Tammy.

Ah right, but apart from all that, was I close?
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