Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread

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There's no alchemy to management. Right place, right face, right time is as good as it gets.

Moyes is a busted flush after the Man United experience, struggles with Sunderland, toils with West Ham first time, flops abroad. And now looks like Moyes of Everton vintage again. How?

Mourinho, one of the greats. Does well at Chelsea for a 2nd time, reasonably well at Man United, flops badly at Spurs.

As has been pointed out, you think you lessen your chances of risk by getting what appears to be the best quality. But unless you're picking managers off the very, very top shelf, how do you guarantee it?

I don't know if Gerrard will be any good. He has some qualities and he has some doubts. I could care less about Liverpool or what people think somebody else did 10 years ago and how thats in anyway relevant. He's a gamble, a big one. But to be honest, I've not come across a name who isn't.

They key to it is mostly the strength of the owners at any club, and doing well/being lucky with transfers. I strongly suspect that without Soucek and Rice, Moyes and West Ham would be on a par with us in terms of style of play and results. We lost Grealish, and Smith just couldn't handle not having him.

You're probably right, but that's right place/right time. And in fairness, Rice has come on a lot under his watch and he bought the other bloke.

[andyh]

If the shortlist is truly:

Gerrard
Martinez
Kasper Hjulmand
Hasenhuttl

Then we should be sacking whichever fucker came up with it.

It is slightly better than a previous shortlist that had Mcleish on it!
Now that really was a fucker who really needed sacking.

[brontebilly]

Why do we always tend to go British? In the last 20 years i believe the only non brits we had were RDM, garde and houllier

Unfortunately...DOL and MON weren't Brits either...an honorary Brit in the case of MON (MBE/OBE!)

[Drummond]

Why do we always tend to go British? In the last 20 years i believe the only non brits we had were RDM, garde and houllier

O'Leary and MO'N

*beaten to it!

[simboy]

There's no alchemy to management. Right place, right face, right time is as good as it gets.

Moyes is a busted flush after the Man United experience, struggles with Sunderland, toils with West Ham first time, flops abroad. And now looks like Moyes of Everton vintage again. How?

Mourinho, one of the greats. Does well at Chelsea for a 2nd time, reasonably well at Man United, flops badly at Spurs.

As has been pointed out, you think you lessen your chances of risk by getting what appears to be the best quality. But unless you're picking managers off the very, very top shelf, how do you guarantee it?

I don't know if Gerrard will be any good. He has some qualities and he has some doubts. I could care less about Liverpool or what people think somebody else did 10 years ago and how thats in anyway relevant. He's a gamble, a big one. But to be honest, I've not come across a name who isn't.

Gerrard, of all the candidates mentioned in the press, is the least tested. That's what really concerns me about his possible appointment. If appointed I hope he does really well [obviously] but he really is the massive 33/1 shot for the National having had a good run first time out at Musselburgh.

I can see Martinez wanting to come back to Premier league football, he did ok at Everton and Swansea with a cup win at Wigan. He knows the league and plays nice football. Gerard has looked after a youth team at Liverpool for five minutes and got a job at Rangers. It has not been all sweetness and light up there for him with resources that dwarf everyone else ... except Celtic.

None of the prospects fill me with much enthusiasm if i am honest, least of all the front runner Gerrard.

However, I don't have to make the decisions, or get a massive pay off to waltz into the sunset when it all goes horribly wrong. I just turn up each week hoping for better. than the week before   

 

[Demitri_C]

Why do we always tend to go British? In the last 20 years i believe the only non brits we had were RDM, garde and houllier

But then i give you mcleish, Lambert and sherwood!

[Risso]

If the shortlist is truly:

Gerrard
Martinez
Kasper Hjulmand
Hasenhuttl

Then we should be sacking whichever fucker came up with it.

It is slightly better than a previous shortlist that had Mcleish on it!
Now that really was a fucker who really needed sacking.

Imagine what he could achieve with Randy's backing!

Sorry, bad flashback.

[cannock villa]

Maybe they should appoint 3 managers to replace Dean?   

Like what you did there

[simboy]

There's no alchemy to management. Right place, right face, right time is as good as it gets.

Moyes is a busted flush after the Man United experience, struggles with Sunderland, toils with West Ham first time, flops abroad. And now looks like Moyes of Everton vintage again. How?

Mourinho, one of the greats. Does well at Chelsea for a 2nd time, reasonably well at Man United, flops badly at Spurs.

As has been pointed out, you think you lessen your chances of risk by getting what appears to be the best quality. But unless you're picking managers off the very, very top shelf, how do you guarantee it?

I don't know if Gerrard will be any good. He has some qualities and he has some doubts. I could care less about Liverpool or what people think somebody else did 10 years ago and how thats in anyway relevant. He's a gamble, a big one. But to be honest, I've not come across a name who isn't.

They key to it is mostly the strength of the owners at any club, and doing well/being lucky with transfers. I strongly suspect that without Soucek and Rice, Moyes and West Ham would be on a par with us in terms of style of play and results. We lost Grealish, and Smith just couldn't handle not having him.

I suspect Moyes would be given longer than 11 games to prove he could cope without Rice though?

Smith had 40 games without Grealish and we won 9 of them.

He had 11 without him in the squad. There's a massive difference of not being able to use a player because he's injured against not being able to use a player because he's been sold. There's a differing mentality, a need to restructure for the long term. Out injured they still played the same way. Sold, they need to rebuild how they play over all.

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Seen a tactical analysis on Twitter of Stevie La and it has him in a 433 with a high press and high full backs. Defensively the anchor in midfield apparently drops to a low bloc triangle in front of of centre halves (*) and Rangers have on average 67% of the ball.

The later stat is probably as much down to the opposition as anything else.

I use the * as that is the bit that intrigues. Deano could never solve the issue of sides playing through us, whatever the level we were always way, way too open. Friday night first half it was embarrassing. It is interesting to note that Gerrard or his coaching staff, at least think its a bad thing given its our huge weakness.

There was more.

Two central midfielders push on to add triangles with the wingers and full backs, so it becomes a 343, with widemen coming inside to make over loads in a number of positions at inside forward or outwide at once.

Which is basically, well not basically, exactly how Liverpool play.

[Ozzjim]

I don't think he'll be too bad, I really don't. I think he'll command respect of the dressing room, and some players will really thrive under him.

Targett might be in trouble though. And we'll buy a well drilled holding midfielder in Jan for sure. The double pivot 6 I expect will become a feature away from home most weeks.

[Monty]

CouldN'T care less, Ads. CouldN'T. Shaking my head here.

[not3bad]

CouldN'T care less, ADS. CouldN'T. Shaking my head here.

Thank you.

[The Edge]

I've been reading articles written by former playmates of Stevie G. (Chris Sutton,  Danny Murphy, Charlie Nicholas) amongst others. Almost to a man they dismiss us as not big enough to tempt him away from a massive club like Rangers. Murphy: "there's only so much he can achieve at Villa. The ceiling is too low for him" Nicholas: "there's a massive rebuilding job to be done there. Stevie needs a ready made squad" I could go on. My point is we're being belittled and laughed off in public by these I'll informed tossers and it's starting to boil my piss. Thanks a lot Purslow.

[Grumpy]

Why do we always tend to go British? In the last 20 years i believe the only non brits we had were RDM, garde and houllier

Unfortunately...DOL and MON weren't Brits either...an honorary Brit in the case of MON (MBE/OBE!)

I haven’t logged on for years and never post BUT M’ON is from NI. So is British… but that’s a debate for another time!