Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread

[Dick Edwards]

I just can't get excited about most of the alleged candidates to become our new manager. I've always thought Roberto Martinez was massively overrated, from the days when Wigan owner Dave Whelan used to tout him for Barcelona (when they were a top side). Like Southgate he's been lucky to get to manage a tremendous squad of players at international level and again like Southgate has failed to deliver a title the quality at his disposal demands.

Of all the shortlist names I'd prefer Graham Potter from Brighton. He's done a brilliant job there and with the bonus he's also got Villa in his heart. I'd rather take a punt on John Terry ahead of the others but ta new manager who would interest me most is Scott Parker. He comes across as smart, hungry to succeed and tactically astute.

[andyh]

Oh god.

As someone pointed out elsewhere our last 7 managers have come from The rags, unemployed, long term unemployed, Hull via unemployed and Brentford.
When you summarise it like that, it’s no wonder we haven’t really kicked on. Our management selection policy is obviously not one of ‘daring-do’

It seems to me like we are at a crossroads where we continue to go down the route of ‘safe but uninspiring’ like Lampard, Parker, Potter and Gerrard’ or we take the blinkers off, look at the whole footballing world and make an appointment that has everyone saying ‘how the fuck have Villa got him?’

we’ll probably end up with Gerrard though, and another opportunity of what could have been gone for another few years.

[Risso]

I don't see the equivalence with McLiesh. Being relegated at Small Heath in your previous gig is an appalling measure what makes you good enough to manage us.

For me the equivalence is how many fans are against them from the start. McLeish was never accepted by a big chunk of the fanbase and I think Gerrard would have the same problem.

Maybe, but I am not sure this place is representative of all fans.

Not just here, almost everywhere you look the concensus is that he's a bad choice, for a number of reasons.

He was the top choice on a Twitter poll conducted by the local rag.

[chrisw1]

I don't see the equivalence with McLiesh. Being relegated at Small Heath in your previous gig is an appalling measure what makes you good enough to manage us.

For me the equivalence is how many fans are against them from the start. McLeish was never accepted by a big chunk of the fanbase and I think Gerrard would have the same problem.

Maybe, but I am not sure this place is representative of all fans.

Not just here, almost everywhere you look the concensus is that he's a bad choice, for a number of reasons.

This isn't true.  Gerrard is way ahead on every fan poll I've seen.  Unfortunately. 

The reality is sentiment here is very often different to that of more casual fans on the terraces.  This may partly be due to an element of 'group think' that happens in any forum (yes I know we have diverse opinions) and maybe because it's possible that people who spend hours debating on forums take a more considered view than more casual fans.   It's easy for someone to get swept along in the 'unbeaten Stevie G' hype without looking deeeper into the merits of the appointment.

[Big Ming]

Make Rangnick an offer he can't refuse, before Manure get him.

[Dr Butler]

I suppose Rafa isn't pulling up any trees at Everton, nor did Ancelotti and Koeman. That's some big names. Mourinho has pretty much failed everywhere since he made his name, the much fabled Bielsa isn't making Leeds much better than last season.

Whoever we get is no guarantee.

I must admit the only nagging feeling I have with Gerrard is the circus with the Liverpool connection.

I agree about the Liverpoo thing, but if Gerrard does get the Villa job and eventually goes to Anfield then he will have done very well for us.

UTV
The Doc

[Demitri_C]

Why do we always tend to go British? In the last 20 years i believe the only non brits we had were RDM, garde and houllier

[Beard82]

I don't see the equivalence with McLiesh. Being relegated at Small Heath in your previous gig is an appalling measure what makes you good enough to manage us.

For me the equivalence is how many fans are against them from the start. McLeish was never accepted by a big chunk of the fanbase and I think Gerrard would have the same problem.

Maybe, but I am not sure this place is representative of all fans.

Not just here, almost everywhere you look the concensus is that he's a bad choice, for a number of reasons.

This isn't true.  Gerrard is way ahead on every fan poll I've seen.  Unfortunately. 

The reality is sentiment here is very often different to that of more casual fans on the terraces.  This may partly be due to an element of 'group think' that happens in any forum (yes I know we have diverse opinions) and maybe because it's possible that people who spend hours debating on forums take a more considered view than more casual fans.   It's easy for someone to get swept along in the 'unbeaten Stevie G' hype without looking deeeper into the merits of the appointment.

Yeah - I think it's that tragic thing of everyone will be telling us what a good appointment it is and how lucky we are to have someone that is a Liverpool legend. 

It fits a narrative that most people follow.  I like to think it that we're more decerning in our thoughts - but it's probably just were miserable. 

[Beard82]

Why do we always tend to go British? In the last 20 years i believe the only non brits we had were RDM, garde and houllier

Maybe that's why

[boozey182]

The point for me is we’re meant to be ambitious. 

Percy said the list would be.

This isn’t ambitious

This isn’t we’ll thought out

This is taking a huge gamble when we don’t need to

This says to me the Dream of becoming an elite club is just CP bullshit

I think that is what is most deflating about these rumours (and let's hope there's no more to it than that).

Dean got us up and kept us up. We're supposed to now be the most attractive vacancy in the world, with wealthy, ambitious owners, an underachieving squad, the best academy in the county and world class facilities.

Even the people that want (or at least would tolerate) Gerrard can surely not spin this as an ambitious move? He's hardly a coup, he's not sought after by anyone else and his reputation comes from his days as a player. If he turned up managing a team in the Championship, would anybody be shocked? That seems like the most natural next step from where he is.

It's not ambitious, it's easy. It will get attention, but in the most shallow way.

Let's hope he's just one of a few options, or even better, just a red herring that the club have leaked.

[darren woolley]

I just hope we get the right manager in I'm still gutted over Dean Smith.

[paul_e]

I don't see the equivalence with McLiesh. Being relegated at Small Heath in your previous gig is an appalling measure what makes you good enough to manage us.

For me the equivalence is how many fans are against them from the start. McLeish was never accepted by a big chunk of the fanbase and I think Gerrard would have the same problem.

Maybe, but I am not sure this place is representative of all fans.

Not just here, almost everywhere you look the concensus is that he's a bad choice, for a number of reasons.

He was the top choice on a Twitter poll conducted by the local rag.

I'll change it to divisive then, there's loads of comments everywhere about why he'd be a bad choice. There are more starstruck fans than I'd noticed though.

[Beard82]

The point for me is we’re meant to be ambitious. 

Percy said the list would be.

This isn’t ambitious

This isn’t we’ll thought out

This is taking a huge gamble when we don’t need to

This says to me the Dream of becoming an elite club is just CP bullshit

I think that is what is most deflating about these rumours (and let's hope there's no more to it than that).

Dean got us up and kept us up. We're supposed to now be the most attractive vacancy in the world, with wealthy, ambitious owners, an underachieving squad, the best academy in the county and world class facilities.

Even the people that want (or at least would tolerate) Gerrard can surely not spin this as an ambitious move? He's hardly a coup, he's not sought after by anyone else and his reputation comes from his days as a player. If he turned up managing a team in the Championship, would anybody be shocked? That seems like the most natural next step from where he is.

It's not ambitious, it's easy. It will get attention, but in the most shallow way.

Let's hope he's just one of a few options, or even better, just a red herring that the club have leaked.

Put much better than my angry bulleted list

[ChicagoLion]

The public get media brainwashed in everything from politics to football.
Its not surprising that Stevie Me is leading in the Polls.

[Behind Bluenose Lines]

After fitfully sleeping on it, and crying on my Villa-mad neighbour's shoulder over the phone, I reckon the Gerrard thing is a smokescreen, and someone from abroad will take over. We both came to the conclusion that Martinez will tick a lot of boxes.