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Offline cdbearsfan

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1965 on: November 09, 2021, 10:23:04 AM »
Murphy is a bitter twat, no idea what we've ever done to make him dislike us so much. Nicholas is just a bit thick. Would be surprised if Sutton was saying that as his usual MO is just to wind "Rangers" fans up.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1966 on: November 09, 2021, 10:24:43 AM »
Sutton is saying he would come. Nicholas is a Rabgwrs man seeing his arse and flapping over Stevie La and Murphy would make a Nose blush, the dreary bitter twat.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1967 on: November 09, 2021, 10:25:09 AM »
I've been reading articles written by former playmates of Stevie G. (Chris Sutton,  Danny Murphy, Charlie Nicholas) amongst others. Almost to a man they dismiss us as not big enough to tempt him away from a massive club like Rangers. Murphy: "there's only so much he can achieve at Villa. The ceiling is too low for him" Nicholas: "there's a massive rebuilding job to be done there. Stevie needs a ready made squad" I could go on. My point is we're being belittled and laughed off in public by these I'll informed tossers and it's starting to boil my piss. Thanks a lot Purslow.

Is that not even bigger reason for wanting him?

As for massive rebuilding job - is there bollocks. Add a proper midfield player to this squad and perhaps an upgrade on Targett and we have a very good squad

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1968 on: November 09, 2021, 10:25:38 AM »
I don't think he'll be too bad, I really don't. I think he'll command respect of the dressing room, and some players will really thrive under him.

Targett might be in trouble though. And we'll buy a well drilled holding midfielder in Jan for sure. The double pivot 6 I expect will become a feature away from home most weeks.

Double pivot. I’m expecting the words project and XG any minute.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1969 on: November 09, 2021, 10:27:06 AM »
I've been reading articles written by former playmates of Stevie G. (Chris Sutton,  Danny Murphy, Charlie Nicholas) amongst others. Almost to a man they dismiss us as not big enough to tempt him away from a massive club like Rangers. Murphy: "there's only so much he can achieve at Villa. The ceiling is too low for him" Nicholas: "there's a massive rebuilding job to be done there. Stevie needs a ready made squad" I could go on. My point is we're being belittled and laughed off in public by these I'll informed tossers and it's starting to boil my piss. Thanks a lot Purslow.

Is that not even bigger reason for wanting him?

As for massive rebuilding job - is there bollocks. Add a proper midfield player to this squad and perhaps an upgrade on Targett and we have a very good squad
Agreed .That's why I called them ill informed tossers.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1970 on: November 09, 2021, 10:28:18 AM »
I've been reading articles written by former playmates of Stevie G. (Chris Sutton,  Danny Murphy, Charlie Nicholas) amongst others. Almost to a man they dismiss us as not big enough to tempt him away from a massive club like Rangers. Murphy: "there's only so much he can achieve at Villa. The ceiling is too low for him" Nicholas: "there's a massive rebuilding job to be done there. Stevie needs a ready made squad" I could go on. My point is we're being belittled and laughed off in public by these I'll informed tossers and it's starting to boil my piss. Thanks a lot Purslow.

Is that not even bigger reason for wanting him?

As for massive rebuilding job - is there bollocks. Add a proper midfield player to this squad and perhaps an upgrade on Targett and we have a very good squad
I have to admit that part of me wants Gerrard to take it on just to piss Danny Murphy off.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1971 on: November 09, 2021, 10:30:09 AM »
Thinking if it is Gerrard what sort of short term draw that would provide to the recruitment of players?  We saw in the summer attempts to get Ward-Prowse and Smith Rowe without much success.  If the draw is being able to work under someone who was a world class midfielder then perhaps it may help us make that step up.

We unfortunately aren't in a position to get a Conte or a Klopp, we don't have that draw.  Aston Villa brutally I am afraid is a mid table club in the eyes of the nation despite what we think.  Maybe with Gerrard that may help bring that media profile up and therefore allow us to attract the next step of players we couldn't have previously recruited.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1972 on: November 09, 2021, 10:30:16 AM »
Isn't Ireland one of the British Isles, making anyone from Ireland British ?

*scurries off in a zig-zag course to avoid attack*

;) :)

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1973 on: November 09, 2021, 10:30:43 AM »
I don't think he'll be too bad, I really don't. I think he'll command respect of the dressing room, and some players will really thrive under him.

Targett might be in trouble though. And we'll buy a well drilled holding midfielder in Jan for sure. The double pivot 6 I expect will become a feature away from home most weeks.

Think a lot are going to be out on their ears. I can't imagine he'd come here with a remit of make do and mend past this season.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1974 on: November 09, 2021, 10:30:57 AM »
We shouldn’t write off  any* manager off before they’ve even walked through the door.

There’s a selection of the fan base that continue to have the temerity to write people off before they’ve had chance to prove themselves. Those that scoff at what Gerrard has achieved had absolutely no problem welcoming Dean Smith with open arms  despite having never finished above 11th in the Championship.

Those that claim they dislike the Liverpool connection will be the same people that will foam at the mouth when Grealish doesn’t clap the Holte end when he reappears in November. It’s blinkered, it’s weird, it’s not what we should be about. I get people have opinions and that’s what makes reading and participating in fan forums good but please let’s just get behind whoever is appointed.

FWIW I think Gerrard is a winner, he commands respect, he would bring with him a top class coaching set up and, if it happens, we should get right fucking behind him.


*everyone except Sam Allardyce

For a winner he hasn't, y'know, won much.

With Liverpool  - FA cup (x2), Football League Cup (x3), FA Charity Shield, European Cup, UEFA Cup, European Super Cup

But apart from that…what have the Romans done for us?

And since 1996 we have won…what exactly?

Nice to see people siding with a manager we don't even have yet over the club.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1975 on: November 09, 2021, 10:34:13 AM »
Thinking if it is Gerrard what sort of short term draw that would provide to the recruitment of players?  We saw in the summer attempts to get Ward-Prowse and Smith Rowe without much success.  If the draw is being able to work under someone who was a world class midfielder then perhaps it may help us make that step up.

We unfortunately aren't in a position to get a Conte or a Klopp, we don't have that draw.  Aston Villa brutally I am afraid is a mid table club in the eyes of the nation despite what we think.  Maybe with Gerrard that may help bring that media profile up and therefore allow us to attract the next step of players we couldn't have previously recruited.
Think the issue was more the sub-standard and embarrassing offers we made for their players that was the issue

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1976 on: November 09, 2021, 10:34:18 AM »
Why do we always tend to go British? In the last 20 years i believe the only non brits we had were RDM, garde and houllier

Villa's a great club and very traditional. This is a strength but at times it is a weakness- especially with why we sort of have fallen behind since the likes of Wenger, rocked up at Arsenal in the mid 90s. When we have gone continental it hasn't worked out. I remember the 'frog' comments with Houllier and Garde and that dreadful secret santa video in 2015. You only have to look at some of the Scottish stuff too with McLeish and Lambert (even in this thread above somebody says he doesn't want a Scott as manager!). Why should it matter where a manager is from?  Judge people on their CV/competency not where they are from



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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1977 on: November 09, 2021, 10:35:38 AM »
The trouble with judging Gerrard tactically is that the step-up from Scotland to the English top ten is so enormous that you can't make any judgements. He likes to attack in numbers? Well yeah, he's at Rangers, that happens anyway. From what I've seen most of their goals come from some form of working it wide and getting yer crosses in, which really won't hack it in the same way in England. Of course, he'd also have better players.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1978 on: November 09, 2021, 10:36:55 AM »
Why do we always tend to go British? In the last 20 years i believe the only non brits we had were RDM, garde and houllier

Villa's a great club and very traditional. This is a strength but at times it is a weakness- especially with why we sort of have fallen behind since the likes of Wenger, rocked up at Arsenal in the mid 90s. When we have gone continental it hasn't worked out. I remember the 'frog' comments with Houllier and Garde and that dreadful secret santa video in 2015. You only have to look at some of the Scottish stuff too with McLeish and Lambert (even in this thread above somebody says he doesn't want a Scott as manager!). Why should it matter where a manager is from?  Judge people on their CV/competency not where they are from



To be fair I think the poster above says he doesn't want a manager from the Scottish leagues, rather than not wanting somebody who is Scottish. The inference being that the level is so low there.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1979 on: November 09, 2021, 10:37:20 AM »
I was one who believed after Friday night that it was time for Dean to go, the team has looked so frail and off the pace particularly the last 3 games that the fear was that continuing into Brighton game would see the crowd turn and Dean 100% wouldn’t have deserved that reaction.

Gerrard wouldn’t be my choice but should he take over like all managers (obv not Allardyce or Pulis lol) I will get behind them totally and we move on - my worry with Gerrard is 3/4 games in we play Liverpool and if that turns into a crowd waving love in he will have lost some of our fans very quickly.  Add that to playing Man City in the same run and the circus that will be around Jack it’ll be an icky spell.


 


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