Quote from: Dave on September 19, 2021, 03:31:05 PMReckon Everton fans are in for a rough couple of years. I was reading through one of their forums after the game yesterday and they seem to have neatly divided themselves into half who hate Benitez and everything about him, and half who think he's a good manager for their current situation. It's like a pitched battle which is going to see them yelling at each other all the time, regardless of how the team does. The team meanwhile will always finish between 7th-11th, so nowhere near good enough to win over those that hate him, and nowhere near bad enough to warrant getting rid of him.Could be worse obviously, but they're basically just in for a few years everyone shouting at everyone else, with no room for nuance. Rafa going to be their McLeish really.Pretty sure in TSM season we started the season about 7-8 unbeaten and were top half until December but it was never really convincing despite fans remaning patient. Then everything exploded on that night v Bolton, same will happen at Goodison at some point around March.They were missing key players tbf yesterday as Coleman, Pickford, Calvert-Lewin and Richarlison would've all started if fit so big chunk of first 11 to take out (although we've made Everton teams with those in it pretty average in last two seasons).Feels though once Gray and Townsend go off the boil they'll have next to no creativity and their defence really isn't good at all if you run at them as we showed second half yesterday.They're just treading water until they move into the new stadium and perhaps then they'll spend decent amount again.Club we should be finishing above this season.
Reckon Everton fans are in for a rough couple of years. I was reading through one of their forums after the game yesterday and they seem to have neatly divided themselves into half who hate Benitez and everything about him, and half who think he's a good manager for their current situation. It's like a pitched battle which is going to see them yelling at each other all the time, regardless of how the team does. The team meanwhile will always finish between 7th-11th, so nowhere near good enough to win over those that hate him, and nowhere near bad enough to warrant getting rid of him.Could be worse obviously, but they're basically just in for a few years everyone shouting at everyone else, with no room for nuance.
Or as their forum put it, they've spent £500m over the last half a dozen seasons and have their best centre back at right back, Salomon Rondon up front, Andros Townsend on the wing and nothing on the bench but academy players.That's our-first-season-in-The-Championship levels of financial screw-ups.
Quote from: Dave on September 19, 2021, 09:43:52 PMOr as their forum put it, they've spent £500m over the last half a dozen seasons and have their best centre back at right back, Salomon Rondon up front, Andros Townsend on the wing and nothing on the bench but academy players.That's our-first-season-in-The-Championship levels of financial screw-ups.You love to see it. At other clubs.
Hope your nephew gad a great day caster.
Sorry if this is a dim question... what formation did we go to when Targett came off. I presume Bailley was an out and out winger so who was right full/wing back? I appreciate this outs me as a non real fan as I cannot travel 60 miles each way to VP in my current fiscal and familial circumstances and won't touch Sky with a bargepole even if Villa are on it.
Quote from: SoccerHQ on September 19, 2021, 05:16:27 PMQuote from: Dave on September 19, 2021, 03:31:05 PMReckon Everton fans are in for a rough couple of years. I was reading through one of their forums after the game yesterday and they seem to have neatly divided themselves into half who hate Benitez and everything about him, and half who think he's a good manager for their current situation. It's like a pitched battle which is going to see them yelling at each other all the time, regardless of how the team does. The team meanwhile will always finish between 7th-11th, so nowhere near good enough to win over those that hate him, and nowhere near bad enough to warrant getting rid of him.Could be worse obviously, but they're basically just in for a few years everyone shouting at everyone else, with no room for nuance. Rafa going to be their McLeish really.Pretty sure in TSM season we started the season about 7-8 unbeaten and were top half until December but it was never really convincing despite fans remaning patient. Then everything exploded on that night v Bolton, same will happen at Goodison at some point around March.They were missing key players tbf yesterday as Coleman, Pickford, Calvert-Lewin and Richarlison would've all started if fit so big chunk of first 11 to take out (although we've made Everton teams with those in it pretty average in last two seasons).Feels though once Gray and Townsend go off the boil they'll have next to no creativity and their defence really isn't good at all if you run at them as we showed second half yesterday.They're just treading water until they move into the new stadium and perhaps then they'll spend decent amount again.Club we should be finishing above this season.Everton arguably were just getting on top before we scored the first but they are very poor. I'm not sure what more Benitez is meant to do with them. Have spent no money and dealing with the consequences of giving manager after manager before him a blank chequebook. Still have likes of Rodriguez, Delph, Tosun, Sigurddson? on the payroll...another bomb squad. They spent about 30m on that Iwobi and he must be one of the worst attacking players in the division.
Watching the replay Danny Ings vision to spot Bailey and then the execution of the pass was pure brilliance.
Quote from: ROBBO on September 20, 2021, 04:12:34 AMWatching the replay Danny Ings vision to spot Bailey and then the execution of the pass was pure brilliance.agreed and went unnoticed by most media outlets