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Offline Crown Hill

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Re: FFP
« Reply #6180 on: Today at 07:56:12 PM »
Was the UEFA deal conditional? And if we met certain targets the punishment would be lifted? Does this fit in with that?
« Last Edit: Today at 08:46:13 PM by Crown Hill »

Online SaddVillan

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Re: FFP
« Reply #6181 on: Today at 08:22:58 PM »
UEFA uses the calendar year to work out whether or not a club has broken its "rules", whereas the Prem goes from 1 July - 30 Jun.

Our net transfer spend last summer was -£7.7m

In Jan 25 we sold
Duran to Al Nassr for £64.5m.plus add-ons
Diego Carlos went to Fenerbache for £8.45m
Philogene joined Ipswich for £20m
Total £92.95m

We signed
Malen - £21m
Garcia - £6m
Total £27m

So from what I can see, our net spend in 2025 was  -£73.65m.

To have breached UEFA's SCR rules we must have had to have been spending money on wages, loan and agent's fees like crazy.

L





Offline Chris Harte

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Re: FFP
« Reply #6182 on: Today at 08:31:32 PM »
Pay the fine and get on with it.

Qualifying for Europe and going deep into whichever competition we are in repeatedly will help in this regard.

Offline JJ-AV

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Re: FFP
« Reply #6183 on: Today at 09:15:22 PM »
UEFA uses the calendar year to work out whether or not a club has broken its "rules", whereas the Prem goes from 1 July - 30 Jun.

Our net transfer spend last summer was -£7.7m

In Jan 25 we sold
Duran to Al Nassr for £64.5m.plus add-ons
Diego Carlos went to Fenerbache for £8.45m
Philogene joined Ipswich for £20m
Total £92.95m

We signed
Malen - £21m
Garcia - £6m
Total £27m

So from what I can see, our net spend in 2025 was  -£73.65m.

To have breached UEFA's SCR rules we must have had to have been spending money on wages, loan and agent's fees like crazy.

L

Disasi was a £5m loan fee - probably 2.5m in wages
Rashford would have been about £8m just in wages +any loan fee
Asensio maybe £5m in wages + any loan fee

Probably looking at £25m for them three

Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: FFP
« Reply #6184 on: Today at 09:49:56 PM »
UEFA uses the calendar year to work out whether or not a club has broken its "rules", whereas the Prem goes from 1 July - 30 Jun.

Our net transfer spend last summer was -£7.7m

In Jan 25 we sold
Duran to Al Nassr for £64.5m.plus add-ons
Diego Carlos went to Fenerbache for £8.45m
Philogene joined Ipswich for £20m
Total £92.95m

We signed
Malen - £21m
Garcia - £6m
Total £27m

So from what I can see, our net spend in 2025 was  -£73.65m.

To have breached UEFA's SCR rules we must have had to have been spending money on wages, loan and agent's fees like crazy.

L

I’m pretty sure incoming transfer fees are spread over three years under SCR, which might explain why we are close now, but might help us in the future.

Offline Hookeysmith

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Re: FFP
« Reply #6185 on: Today at 09:58:41 PM »
It seems inevitable that we will have to sell another key player like Rogers just to conform and at what point does Emery and the owners just give up.

Then little Villa having had thier time in the sun can go back to being with the outside scum 6 lot of also rans nd feeder clubs.

So fucking depressing

Offline paul_e

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Re: FFP
« Reply #6186 on: Today at 10:08:43 PM »
UEFA uses the calendar year to work out whether or not a club has broken its "rules", whereas the Prem goes from 1 July - 30 Jun.

Our net transfer spend last summer was -£7.7m

In Jan 25 we sold
Duran to Al Nassr for £64.5m.plus add-ons
Diego Carlos went to Fenerbache for £8.45m
Philogene joined Ipswich for £20m
Total £92.95m

We signed
Malen - £21m
Garcia - £6m
Total £27m

So from what I can see, our net spend in 2025 was  -£73.65m.

To have breached UEFA's SCR rules we must have had to have been spending money on wages, loan and agent's fees like crazy.

L

I’m pretty sure incoming transfer fees are spread over three years under SCR, which might explain why we are close now, but might help us in the future.

Fees both ways are over 3 years so only about a 3rd of that £73m is counted whereas the wages and fees for the loanees are 'all in' (but balanced by the outgoing wages of the 3 we sold being much higher than the 2 permanent signings) so in real terms our 'book' profit from that window is probably a couple of million at most but with £24m in the bank for each of 26 and 27 already. We know we also turned a profit in the summer (and that will have increased when Barron became permanent) and we'll turn a profit from this window as well when Malen is made permanent in the summer so we're going to have had 3 windows in a row of making a profit and a fair few of our bigger fees will drop off the books for 2027 as well so if not this summer we'll certainly be in a position to spend fairly heavily from January.

Also as far as I'm aware there were no loan fees for Rashford or Asensio as both were widely reported as us just covering their wages.

Offline andyh

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Re: FFP
« Reply #6187 on: Today at 10:09:52 PM »
It’s quite interesting really.
We aren’t allowed to spend on the playing side of the club, yet the football authorities are happy to take multi millions out of the club in fines.
« Last Edit: Today at 10:22:08 PM by andyh »

 


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