FFP

[Villan82]

On the stadium question

1. It might be easier to accept leaving Villa Park if they hadn't teased us with what a redeveloped Villa Park would have looked like.

2. If they are leaving Villa Park if needs to be for something quite spectacular. Villa Park is an iconic venue and not just for us. We've been through it all there and many FA Cup semi-finalists have too.

3. After what we've seen so far I'm not entirely sure how I'd feel about Heck being the mastermind of a new stadium but that's a question for another day.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

https://twitter.com/PurelyFootball/status/1775870305010962928

🚨 The Premier League is considering REMOVING points deductions and introducing an NBA-style 'luxury tax' due to concerns that top players might leave if their pay is restricted.

The 'luxury tax' would penalise clubs financially for overspending, with the penalty increasing based on their spending. Clubs in theory could still choose to spend freely if they prefer but with the knowledge of taking another financial hit.

The tax could then be distributed to the other Premier League clubs who stayed within the rules.

(Source:
@MikeKeegan_DM)

Perfect for the oil clubs.

Yup, you may as well call it the Petrol Tax. Historically a similar tax was first introduced in 1910 in the People's Budget. This one they can call the Citizen's (and Magpies) Budget.

[Monty]

Well isn't that just a lovely little disgrace.

[Risso]

On the stadium question

1. It might be easier to accept leaving Villa Park if they hadn't teased us with what a redeveloped Villa Park would have looked like.

2. If they are leaving Villa Park if needs to be for something quite spectacular. Villa Park is an iconic venue and not just for us. We've been through it all there and many FA Cup semi-finalists have too.

3. After what we've seen so far I'm not entirely sure how I'd feel about Heck being the mastermind of a new stadium but that's a question for another day.

There hasn't been an FA Cup semi final at Villa for 20 years, so you'd have to be getting on for 30 to even remember one properly.

[eamonn]

How much have we spent on the Brookvale Academy training centre - purposely built a stone's throw from Villa Park?
And how much will we spend on revamping the "megastore" and the "Warehouse" (to fit 3,000 folk at any one time)? It seems a lot to plan and spend-on if it's just for short to medium term use until we move away from Villa Park.

The academy doesn’t need to be nextdoor to our home ground. The point of it being in the inner-city is that it’s handy for kids who can’t easily get to Bodymoor.

Sure but building it next to our current ground was surely deliberate - synergy an'shit. And I thought you wanted Villa Park forever 

[Paul.S]

https://twitter.com/PurelyFootball/status/1775870305010962928

🚨 The Premier League is considering REMOVING points deductions and introducing an NBA-style 'luxury tax' due to concerns that top players might leave if their pay is restricted.

The 'luxury tax' would penalise clubs financially for overspending, with the penalty increasing based on their spending. Clubs in theory could still choose to spend freely if they prefer but with the knowledge of taking another financial hit.

The tax could then be distributed to the other Premier League clubs who stayed within the rules.

(Source:
@MikeKeegan_DM)

I cannot see how this will not benefit certain clubs more than others. I suppose it depends on the level of the ‘luxury tax’ but even then some will just pay it and carry on.
A European wide salary cap and continued points deductions appear the only way of keeping football from eating itself.
Certain clubs have had it their own way for far too long and the points deductions at least appear to have had some effect on them. Is this the reason these changes are suddenly being talked about?
It all stinks of clubs with a never ending pot of cash throwing the smaller fish money so they can carry on spending.

[Brend'Watkins]

https://twitter.com/PurelyFootball/status/1775870305010962928

🚨 The Premier League is considering REMOVING points deductions and introducing an NBA-style 'luxury tax' due to concerns that top players might leave if their pay is restricted.

The 'luxury tax' would penalise clubs financially for overspending, with the penalty increasing based on their spending. Clubs in theory could still choose to spend freely if they prefer but with the knowledge of taking another financial hit.

The tax could then be distributed to the other Premier League clubs who stayed within the rules.

(Source:
@MikeKeegan_DM)

Perfect for the oil clubs.

Yup, you may as well call it the Petrol Tax. Historically a similar tax was first introduced in 1910 in the People's Budget. This one they can call the Citizen's (and Magpies) Budget.

It all depends what that financial hit is really. £25 million to each club? What's right and what should happen pfft!

[curiousorange]

If they really wanted to go the American closed-shop route then there needs to be a draft. Having a league where the traditional winners are allowed to keep inching ahead by virtue of having limitless income to pay token fines is no disincentive. The idea of a worldwide draft is mind-boggling. In one never-expanding league, however...

[TelfordVilla]

Leicester are linked with buying someone in the summer despite outstanding charges against them. A transfer ban should be imposed on all clubs that have breached ffp or psr

[SamTheMouse]

It's clearly a proposal intended squarely and exclusively to placate one particular club, or should I say one sportwashing sovereign petrostate, simply because they're annoyed at not being able to emulate the other sportwashing petrostate.

[olaftab]

So basically NO RULES need to be respected if you are rich enough. What a cuntish proposal to equal the worst ever rule that existed in the whole wide world and I don't know what that is.

[Somniloquism]

A lot of the consideration has to be transport links. As someone said earlier, if you had a site that was between two railway stations you wouldn't look anywhere else, but context is king - they don't get trains every five minutes like an underground or a suburban line. I think this would be the problem with a site like the NEC too; it has a railway station but the trains are nowhere near regular enough for sixty odd thousand people to come and go once a fortnight.

To the latter, I'd also add the multi-use aspect: any new stadium on the scale we envisage has to be bringing in gigs and events every summer at least. Would building next to the NEC hinder that? Would having a city centre stadium hinder that with the proximity of the NIA? Spuds bring in the NFL, Spam seem to have dibs on the baseball, is there anything left for Brum?

There are pros and cons to every possible location, but ultimately you just have to have a plan and faith it'll work out. I mean, we're the second city, we should act like it.

A 60,000 stadium would be three times the size of the NEC or NIA, so would be attracting a completely different level of artist or event. 

I have no idea about planning etc. but the NIA site would be a good one if you were going to build a stadium.  Close to town, but just far enough away from everything that you you would do very well on drinks and food. 

The whole Dale End area is a real eyesore now and that would be another good location if possible.

Too much of an incline plus not a big enough area now. The incline would mean we either have to build on pillars or dig down a fair bit to level it off. And as a fair bit of DE is being knocked down for the tramline to go through to meet Curzon and Digbeth, it cuts the land available down.

[Rigadon]

https://twitter.com/PurelyFootball/status/1775870305010962928

🚨 The Premier League is considering REMOVING points deductions and introducing an NBA-style 'luxury tax' due to concerns that top players might leave if their pay is restricted.

The 'luxury tax' would penalise clubs financially for overspending, with the penalty increasing based on their spending. Clubs in theory could still choose to spend freely if they prefer but with the knowledge of taking another financial hit.

The tax could then be distributed to the other Premier League clubs who stayed within the rules.

(Source:
@MikeKeegan_DM)

Perfect for the oil clubs.

Yup, you may as well call it the Petrol Tax. Historically a similar tax was first introduced in 1910 in the People's Budget. This one they can call the Citizen's (and Magpies) Budget.

It sounds like a good way to keep the top 6 (or maybe now 8, or is it 9) happier, provide the premier league with an opt out on what should be a biblical points deduction for Man City and avoid the super league nonsense from reappearing.  The premier league will LOVE it. But I can't see how any of this would benefit Aston Villa.  There is no way we can compete financially with an oil state regardless of how rich our owners undoubtedly are.  It'd be just another glass ceiling wouldn't it?

[Rigadon]

And for a kick back 'tax' windfall when Newcastle and Man City spend a billion on right backs?  The idea makes me queasy. 

[devilla]

So they're looking at it from a bigger picture perspective - trying to stop the super league and keeping the best players. I wonder how Everton and Forest will feel? If I was them I'd be very pissed off.

Any kind of financial penalty just won't matter to cit£h and Saudicastle, they just soak it up. So it looks like a very bad idea to me. Stick with points deductions as it's the only thing that'll hurt those two if they've breached FFP.