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[chrisw1]

https://twitter.com/PurelyFootball/status/1775870305010962928

🚨 The Premier League is considering REMOVING points deductions and introducing an NBA-style 'luxury tax' due to concerns that top players might leave if their pay is restricted.

The 'luxury tax' would penalise clubs financially for overspending, with the penalty increasing based on their spending. Clubs in theory could still choose to spend freely if they prefer but with the knowledge of taking another financial hit.

The tax could then be distributed to the other Premier League clubs who stayed within the rules.

(Source:
@MikeKeegan_DM)

Perfect for the oil clubs.

[Dogtanian]

https://twitter.com/PurelyFootball/status/1775870305010962928

🚨 The Premier League is considering REMOVING points deductions and introducing an NBA-style 'luxury tax' due to concerns that top players might leave if their pay is restricted.

The 'luxury tax' would penalise clubs financially for overspending, with the penalty increasing based on their spending. Clubs in theory could still choose to spend freely if they prefer but with the knowledge of taking another financial hit.

The tax could then be distributed to the other Premier League clubs who stayed within the rules.

(Source:
@MikeKeegan_DM)

Perfect for the oil clubs.

Yes, and completely removes the supposed protection that FFP was put in place. So under this, not only can a club massively spend and get into debt and go bankrupt, but the Premier League would just add more debt on top?

[Percy McCarthy]

How much have we spent on the Brookvale Academy training centre - purposely built a stone's throw from Villa Park?
And how much will we spend on revamping the "megastore" and the "Warehouse" (to fit 3,000 folk at any one time)? It seems a lot to plan and spend-on if it's just for short to medium term use until we move away from Villa Park.

The academy doesn’t need to be nextdoor to our home ground. The point of it being in the inner-city is that it’s handy for kids who can’t easily get to Bodymoor. The shop and Warehouse won’t cost much relatively speaking, we’ll soon make that money back on them I reckon.

[Dante Lavelli]

https://twitter.com/PurelyFootball/status/1775870305010962928

🚨 The Premier League is considering REMOVING points deductions and introducing an NBA-style 'luxury tax' due to concerns that top players might leave if their pay is restricted.

The 'luxury tax' would penalise clubs financially for overspending, with the penalty increasing based on their spending. Clubs in theory could still choose to spend freely if they prefer but with the knowledge of taking another financial hit.

The tax could then be distributed to the other Premier League clubs who stayed within the rules.

(Source:
@MikeKeegan_DM)

I like this idea but only if the tax is distributed much lower down than the PL.

[Ads]

No way would I want Small Heath or Sandwell to benefit from us being a bit cheeky to qualify for the Champions League.

Good idea though generally. I think they're looking to protect the brand a bit, which suits us as much as others.

[tomd2103]

A lot of the consideration has to be transport links. As someone said earlier, if you had a site that was between two railway stations you wouldn't look anywhere else, but context is king - they don't get trains every five minutes like an underground or a suburban line. I think this would be the problem with a site like the NEC too; it has a railway station but the trains are nowhere near regular enough for sixty odd thousand people to come and go once a fortnight.

To the latter, I'd also add the multi-use aspect: any new stadium on the scale we envisage has to be bringing in gigs and events every summer at least. Would building next to the NEC hinder that? Would having a city centre stadium hinder that with the proximity of the NIA? Spuds bring in the NFL, Spam seem to have dibs on the baseball, is there anything left for Brum?

There are pros and cons to every possible location, but ultimately you just have to have a plan and faith it'll work out. I mean, we're the second city, we should act like it.

A 60,000 stadium would be three times the size of the NEC or NIA, so would be attracting a completely different level of artist or event. 

I have no idea about planning etc. but the NIA site would be a good one if you were going to build a stadium.  Close to town, but just far enough away from everything that you you would do very well on drinks and food. 

The whole Dale End area is a real eyesore now and that would be another good location if possible. 

[PeterWithesShin]

Dishing out fines to clubs with near unlimited wealth doesn't strike me as much of a deterrent.

[Clark W Griswold]

Agreed. You need to hit them in the area that is leading to the spending in the first place, (i.e. hooving up all of the trophies by spending way more on players than anyone else) so stop them being able to do that by deducting points leading to relegation or not winning the league or not qualifying for Europe. Then,  eventually they'll wonder what the point is in the first place. They could even be barred from cup competitions in addition to league points deductions.

[curiousorange]

Fines is no deterrent at all. In fact, it plays into what I think will happen, which is that if the Scab Six are allowed to spend what they like, eventually there will be a groundswell of discontent towards the anti-competitiveness of the league and all of a sudden, the idea of waving these heavyweights off to play in their rich European Super League won't seem like a bad idea.

[VILLA MOLE]

Transfer bans would be a fab start

[PaulWinch again]

If they don’t want to have points penalties, fines are pointless, so it should be something like transfer embargos or caps on spending for a period.

[dicedlam]

I should imagine they are difficult decisions to make when judging what is best for the club going forward.

I can see both points on either staying where we are, or the need for us to build a new stadium, but I'm also sure the dilemma is not helped when you cannot necessarily predict accurately what the future holds for the club (see Everton's present situation).

Having American owners and management that is used to sport where teams do not get relegated, along with not having to pay substantial transfer fees has to be part of the decision making whether we go big, or just tread water. This as we know is a far easier call to make in the US.
Also, in most cases in the states, the captive audience is far greater when you are a state sporting franchise as opposed to having six teams all within twenty five miles of each other.

I don't know what the answer is, but to stand still I believe is not an option.

[PeterWithesShin]

Point deductions and bans from cup competitions are the only real deterrents I reckon.

[Risso]

The trouble is there are so many competing factions in play, and the authorities don't even know what it is they want to achieve.

Do they want to stop clubs going bust? Well, those owned by Arab states aren't ever going to, and if they put money in via share issues, there's no debt in the future to worry about. Do they want to have more of an even playing field for teams so that the same few teams don't dominate every year? Well the teams outside of the usual suspects might want to, but the likes of Man City and Liverpool won't, and I'm sure the Premier League is perfectly happy with the status quo when it comes to flogging TV rights abroad. Foreign fans are paying stupid money to see Man City v Liverpool, they're not bothered about Burnley v Everton.

A wage cap would go some way to making the game more even, but then the Premier League would be worried about losing better players to the other top leagues if it was imposed. The idea of a European Super League is also something still waiting in the wings that hasn't been fully dispatched yet.

[Demitri_C]

Ah superb so newcastle can spend 500m each season and stupid wages and they will get a peanuts for them

This is gonna kill this game